The experience of jumping timelines

[wstein]

There have been several topics lately about changing the past and alternate timelines. I thought a description of the experience of jumping timelines might be of interest.

From a couple of months ago: My girlfriend was a home care nurse at that time. She would get a list of patients to see during the week usually several days in advance. One Sunday evening ‘we’ had a discussion about what her schedule was like the coming week. We decided to get together like we usually did on Wednesday afternoon. Normally we get together about 3PM. I distinctly remember her saying that it would have to be later say 4 or even 4:30 this week because she had 4 afternoon patients. So on Tuesday night we talk on the phone. She says “I will see you tomorrow as usual”. I reply “you mean a little later don’t you?” She ask “why?” I of course reminder her that she has four patients tomorrow. She wonders what I am talking about and checks her schedule. Sure enough as she sees it, she has 3 patients and there is no reason for her to be late. At that point, OK, whatever, no point in arguing the ‘facts’. The next day she shows up ‘late’ at 4:30. She looks sheepish and then asks “how did you know I had four patients, I didn’t even know until this [Wednesday] morning when they added one?” I replied that we had talked about it earlier in the week. Clearly from her point of view that was impossible as she only got the fourth patient that very day. From my perspective, the girlfriend I talked to earlier in the week was not the same one that arrived on Wednesday afternoon.

I do not know when the jump happened.

[Wax Frog]

In your place, I'd say the when doesn't matter. I'd just savor the undeniable experience of a "fluid" reality! I'd envy you if I didn't know this was unproductive

I had an experience, recounted several times on this forum, that might have been such a 'jump', but it happened overnight so I have no way to pin it down...

[AngelPsychic444]

Ever since 2011 began time has been way more "flexible" that in the past. I have friends that have reported all sorts of time slips, and time jumping. I do think this year we can expect much more of this and even an increase next year. I've also noticed more times than usual my thoughts are manifesting quicker these days, this does not happen every day, but only every now and then, and I can't plan for this...it just happens.

Hight strangness is becoming the norm....

[Summerbreeze]

I love time and parallel reality stuff, probably the best invention since the holographic universe.

I also agree that time has become more loose than in the past.

Also great deal of power to use it all consciously manipulating and explaining daily phenomenas.

Love to you all.

~sb

[Rezzy7]

Is there not a chance you may have had a very realistic dream of the conversation, and the information was obtained psychically, yet remembered it as an actual waking conversation? She didn't recall having told you of the extra patient, but she does remember having the conversation?

[Pete Messenger]

I discovered time travel. It was me. I'm "that guy". Lol

[VinceG]

Time to dump her, wstein. Can you really be with a girl who can't even stay in the same space-time continuum?

[wstein]

Originally Posted by Rezzy7

Is there not a chance you may have had a very realistic dream of the conversation, and the information was obtained psychically, yet remembered it as an actual waking conversation? She didn't recall having told you of the extra patient, but she does remember having the conversation?

To be clear, she does remember the original Sunday conversation in general but only remembers there being 3 patients scheduled that day. She does remember all the other conversations as I do.

I remember it as part of the normal waking experience. It’s possible the original conversation was a dream or vision though I feel it unlikely as I am very experienced with both these things. It would also be odd that I would not remember the ‘actual’ conversation that she had with me. I suppose it could have been a vision over part of the conversation, but unlikely. This could have been a lot of things if we had not had the Tuesday conversation about the mismatch before the actual change in the number of patients.

[wstein]

Originally Posted by VinceG

Time to dump her, wstein. Can you really be with a girl who can't even stay in the same space-time continuum?

Point taken. If you know of any available women who are timeline savvy, please let me know via PM.

[TuningIn]

Interesting. I began writing a novel on this around the end of 2009, middle to beginning of 2010. Now here it is you people stealing a central theme from it. Plagiarizers ....

[wstein]

Still it would make a good film, similar to the “The Time Traveler’s Wife” but done right. Perhaps we can let you have the screen play rights for a modest fee??

[Rezzy7]

Yes, very interesting. I'm trying to think of various other ways to explain it, but since you do have experience with the subject, you would probably know if it was just a dream or some kind of psychic thing. It would be great to be able to have some conscious willful control. Is that a goal of yours at all? Be interesting if it begins to happen more frequently.

[wstein]

Originally Posted by Rezzy7

It would be great to be able to have some conscious willful control. Is that a goal of yours at all? Be interesting if it begins to happen more frequently.

I am not directly pursuing jumping timelines. I am more interested in stepping out (of time) and acting from a timeless perspective.

These timeline jumps come in waves. As far as I can tell, it happens a way lot but we rarely notice. Most of the ‘changes’ are relatively minor or not near us. If your car tires had an extra 200 miles wear on them, your phone call lasted 3 seconds longer than your remember, or your shirt had an extra 2 hours wear how likely are you to notice? For me, I notice discontinuities roughly several times a week to once a month. Good clear examples with witness verification (like the original post) only happen once a year or so. Also sometimes it’s not clear if we misremembered or there was a change. The biggest changes I have been able to identify are added two story retail buildings.

[theuprising]

Originally Posted by wstein

I am not directly pursuing jumping timelines. I am more interested in stepping out (of time) and acting from a timeless perspective.

These timeline jumps come in waves. As far as I can tell, it happens a way lot but we rarely notice. Most of the ‘changes’ are relatively minor or not near us. If your car tires had an extra 200 miles wear on them, your phone call lasted 3 seconds longer than your remember, or your shirt had an extra 2 hours wear how likely are you to notice? For me, I notice discontinuities roughly several times a week to once a month. Good clear examples with witness verification (like the original post) only happen once a year or so. Also sometimes it’s not clear if we misremembered or there was a change. The biggest changes I have been able to identify are added two story retail buildings.

Also, resident skeptic here, the human mind is the most unreliable witnesses to an event. Witness testimony is the weakest form of evidence in a criminal court for a reason. Our minds can remember a lot less than we think they can, and they simply fill in the blanks with rough estimates. Our memories are also very susceptible to impression.

For instance, a test was done in a university where a student steals the professor's purse, and the students are asked to give descriptions of the perpetrator. The professor says after having her purse stolen "did you see the nose on that guy?". As expected, a large amount of the students remember the perpetrator having a large nose, when in fact, he actually had a small one.

Its very possible that you never skipped any timelines at all, as well as being infinitely more likely.

[Oceans]

I haven't had any experiences that I know of but I’m certain they have happened. Every choice we make leads us into a new reality and I think only on occasion we see evidence of this - that’s my current perspective of it.

I will be buying this book for more information on it and thought others might like to know about it.

Amazon.com: Parallel Universes of Self (9781595266545): Frederick Dodson: Books

[ButterflyWoman]

Originally Posted by Oceans

I will be buying this book for more information on it and thought others might like to know about it.

Amazon.com: Parallel Universes of Self (9781595266545): Frederick Dodson: Books

I have that book. It's interesting, but it's got a LOT of editing errors, some of them so severe that it actually makes it difficult to read in places. Whole sections are repeated, there are ridiculous typos, etc. I don't like to be hyper pedantic and I can overlook minor editing errors and typos, but try as I might, I couldn't even finish the book because it was so incredibly hard to read in places due to the extremely poor (or non-existent) editing.

Then again, I suppose that might just be in MY timeline. And perhaps the editing has been fixed since I bought my copy, which was several years ago.

I'm sorry to dis the book because I liked what I did manage to read of it, and found the concepts intriguing, but when the presentation is so poor that you can't read it... well, I gave up on trying to finish the book (the real core of the concept is in the first couple of chapters, anyway, and those are more or less readable ).

[Reefs]

Originally Posted by wstein

From my perspective, the girlfriend I talked to earlier in the week was not the same one that arrived on Wednesday afternoon.

I do not know when the jump happened.

How many girlfriends do you have who have the same job?

[Reefs]

Originally Posted by wstein

I am not directly pursuing jumping timelines. I am more interested in stepping out (of time) and acting from a timeless perspective.

These timeline jumps come in waves. As far as I can tell, it happens a way lot but we rarely notice. Most of the ‘changes’ are relatively minor or not near us. If your car tires had an extra 200 miles wear on them, your phone call lasted 3 seconds longer than your remember, or your shirt had an extra 2 hours wear how likely are you to notice? For me, I notice discontinuities roughly several times a week to once a month. Good clear examples with witness verification (like the original post) only happen once a year or so. Also sometimes it’s not clear if we misremembered or there was a change. The biggest changes I have been able to identify are added two story retail buildings.

Could it be that you talk about intuition? Intuition would be from a perspective outside of time. It's like animals that leave their place hours or days before it will be hit by an earthquake or a tsunami wave.

And that's not something psychic or paranormal or spacedout miracle or mystery. That's how everyone naturally functions. In natural disaster areas you hardly find carcasses of animals, mostly it's humans who have to rely on outside sources for information instead of intuition.

[inri]

Yes, The way I see it, there's a fine line between 'jumping times lines' and psychically intuiting a future event.

I've had some stunning experiences myself that could be either, depending upon the way you look at it. Sixteen years prior to my brother's death, I was sitting quietly in the dark on my bands touring bus, when I became overcome with knowledge that he's pass when he was 41 years old. He was completely healthy at the time...there was nothing to indicate that he would die, but I could 'see ahead' to the physical absence of him in my life, following that point in time.

Sure enough, 26 days after he turned 41, he died in his sleep.

When we begin to embrace the fluidity of this reality, more and more it will become malleable and 'bend' for us. 'Seeing' this fluidity opens the door to more of it. My reality these days is chock full of such experiences.....birds fly by and caress me with their wings when I think of deceased loved ones.....nightime dreams play out in my day to day life and synchronicity after synchronicity unfolds.

One that makes even the most hardened of skeptics pause for consideration is the fact that all three of my best girlfriends share the first name "Marni." I had known the first two for over 20 years and when I met the third, I knew what her name would be before she even told me....almost like I need 'labels' to indicate a dear friend or something.

Anyway, wstein...thanks for sharing...I love these stories as they really do demonstrate that things here are not near as 'solid' as they may seem.

[Reefs]

Originally Posted by inri

Yes, The way I see it, there's a fine line between 'jumping times lines' and psychically intuiting a future event.

What is the difference between intuition and jumping timelines?

Originally Posted by inri

I've had some stunning experiences myself that could be either, depending upon the way you look at it. Sixteen years prior to my brother's death, I was sitting quietly in the dark on my bands touring bus, when I became overcome with knowledge that he's pass when he was 41 years old. He was completely healthy at the time...there was nothing to indicate that he would die, but I could 'see ahead' to the physical absence of him in my life, following that point in time. Sure enough, 26 days after he turned 41, he died in his sleep.

It's your mind that has to put events into chronological order. Therefore if you live in the mind, you are only living in the past or in the future. Because everything has to be put into a concept and that can only be 'after' the event.

Originally Posted by inri

When we begin to embrace the fluidity of this reality, more and more it will become malleable and 'bend' for us. 'Seeing' this fluidity opens the door to more of it. My reality these days is chock full of such experiences.....birds fly by and caress me with their wings when I think of deceased loved ones.....nightime dreams play out in my day to day life and synchronicity after synchronicity unfolds.

Actually that should be normal. When you are aware of your intuition, there are no surprises.

[wstein]

Originally Posted by Reefs

How many girlfriends do you have who have the same job?

None now, they all seem to be retired. So far they all have the same name ...

[wstein]

Originally Posted by Reefs

Could it be that you talk about intuition? Intuition would be from a perspective outside of time. It's like animals that leave their place hours or days before it will be hit by an earthquake or a tsunami wave.

And that's not something psychic or paranormal or spacedout miracle or mystery. That's how everyone naturally functions. In natural disaster areas you hardly find carcasses of animals, mostly it's humans who have to rely on outside sources for information instead of intuition.

I have no idea what you are getting at here??

Intuition is a ‘tool’ that you can use anywhere (in time or out of time).

I use intuition a lot and it is NOT what I was referring to.

[wstein]

Originally Posted by Reefs

What is the difference between intuition and jumping timelines?

Intuition is an insight of what is or what will be. Intuitions of the future do not always come to be, like prophecy and unlike seeing the future. Jumping timelines is moving to a different ‘parallel universe’ where actual events have played out differently.

Note that intuition can be used across timelines. This is especially useful when transversing timelines via hyperspace. There are so many alternate timelines, it is very hard to simply guess which one to pick that is different in a way you prefer.

[Reefs]

Originally Posted by wstein

Intuition is an insight of what is or what will be. Intuitions of the future do not always come to be, like prophecy and unlike seeing the future. Jumping timelines is moving to a different ‘parallel universe’ where actual events have played out differently.

Note that intuition can be used across timelines. This is especially useful when transversing timelines via hyperspace. There are so many alternate timelines, it is very hard to simply guess which one to pick that is different in a way you prefer.

The way you describe it it, jumping timelines is seeing possibilities while intuition is seeing probabilities?

I use intuition differently. Intuition is not a tool. It's just there, suddenly, no way to explain it. You don't know when it comes, you don't know how long it will last. You cannot influence it. It's not in your perceived realm of control.

[wstein]

Originally Posted by Reefs

The way you describe it, jumping timelines is seeing possibilities while intuition is seeing probabilities?

I use intuition differently. Intuition is not a tool. It's just there, suddenly, no way to explain it. You don't know when it comes, you don't know how long it will last. You cannot influence it. It's not in your perceived realm of control.

Not exactly.

Alternate timelines are alternative actualities not just possibilities. There are places that can be visited by anyone with the skills. They seem like just possibilities if you are stuck in one timeline. If you believe in the multi-verse theory, all the possibilities play out in their own timelines. Otherwise only some of the possibilities actualize into timelines.

Intuition is about knowledge (of what is/ will be). Intuition comes to one person (thought it maybe subsequently shared).

If you are just sitting contemplating other possibilities then they can seem similar IN YOUR HEAD.

Intuition is a tool if you learn to do that ‘It's just there, suddenly, no way to explain it’ at will. A hammer is still a tool even if you never learn to use it and never pick it up. It is near impossible to cause intuition on demand, however, you can encourage it by making space for it, asking for insight, contemplation, and listening for it. Hearing is a similar tool in that way, you cannot cause a sound to be heard. However, if you stop, uncover your ears, be quiet, and try to listen the chances of hearing something is greatly increased.

[Oceans]

Originally Posted by CaterpillarWoman

I have that book. It's interesting, but it's got a LOT of editing errors, some of them so severe that it actually makes it difficult to read in places. Whole sections are repeated, there are ridiculous typos, etc. I don't like to be hyper pedantic and I can overlook minor editing errors and typos, but try as I might, I couldn't even finish the book because it was so incredibly hard to read in places due to the extremely poor (or non-existent) editing.

Then again, I suppose that might just be in MY timeline. And perhaps the editing has been fixed since I bought my copy, which was several years ago.

I'm sorry to dis the book because I liked what I did manage to read of it, and found the concepts intriguing, but when the presentation is so poor that you can't read it... well, I gave up on trying to finish the book (the real core of the concept is in the first couple of chapters, anyway, and those are more or less readable ).

Been reading it the past few days and I’m really enjoying it. Cool insights and exercises! I can see how it would greatly help all those in the I-M sub forum.

It's something I will definitely be having 'fun' with. I think the content has been fixed btw, then again I'm dyslexic and may have not noticed all the errors.

First reality shift: A non-dyslexic Ocean!

[Reefs]

Originally Posted by Oceans

Been reading it the past few days and I’m really enjoying it. Cool insights and exercises! I can see how it would greatly help all those in the I-M sub forum.

It's something I will definitely be having 'fun' with. I think the content has been fixed btw, then again I'm dyslexic and may have not noticed all the errors.

First reality shift: A non-dyslexic Ocean!

Dyslexics are teople poo!

[Arcanum]

Dyslexics untie!

[Reefs]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

Dyslexics untie!

My Dadyd always sad taht aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it donst mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. Mabye he waz right?

[Oceans]

Eh....I've never had dyslexia