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Old 04-11-2007, 09:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Are You Seeking the Light or Just Dancing With the Dark?

Months ago, someone posted a link to this book and I've read it all the way through once and parts several times.
Are You Seeking the Light or Just Dancing with the Dark? A Guide to Spiritual Discernment by Peter Newton...


I find it so intriguing. I must say that prior to reading this and being on this discussion board for several months, I have thought little about this sort of stuff.

But this book was so fascinating to me.

If any of you have read it, please share with me what parts resonated with you, what you agreed with or disagreed with.

To start with I want to post a section of Chapter 10:Evil Exists Only in the Minds of Men?

If evil exists only in the minds of men, and we as a people on Earth are gullible enough to believe this lie then we are setting ourselves up for all manner of mayhem.

The most common place you will find this lie is in channeled books. Walk into any metaphysical/New Age book store and you will find dozens of channeled works that contain this lie somewhere, usually towards the end of the book. You will also find this lie in channeled books that can be found in nationwide chain stores. I'm not saying that every channeled book contains this lie, but a very high percentage do. In this chapter I will tell you how the Dark manage to get this and many other pieces of misinformation into print. Later, I will show the scenarios and effects of what happens when they are successful.

The Dark get this lie into books because well-intentioned, spiritually seeking people are often misled into believing they are channeling a spirit guide or angel serving the Light when they are not! There is only one God. The forces of Light sent us Christ and other masters to show us a system based upon love and service to others. The Dark, which The Law of One tells us exist as intelligent beings, alive and dedicated to conquest and enslavement, advocate a system that is service to self. Both of these groups of intelligent beings are from that one God, or from the Light.

The Dark often come to people when they are meditating, offering to guide them, and then tell these people that they are from the light. When the Dark makes this statement that they are from the Light, they are technically correct! Since the Light is considered to be God, then they are from God. The big problem with this is that they don't serve the Light or God! The Dark are always in service to the self and their goals are always conquest and enslavement. Remember, God, which is pure love and light, allows total free will, and that means that God doesn't begin to stop the Dark from being the Dark. This play on words about being "from the light" is one of their most common and successful tricks.

If you read a book or any other material that is channeled, and in this book it tells you that in order to connect to your guide you should do specific things, be very cautious. Some examples of specific things would be to ask for a certain specific named entity and sometimes at a specific time or place. To begin with, many channeled books don't mention anywhere in the book that they are channeled. I have seen them published under all kinds of names, including Native American sounding names. The Light will never advocate that you seek a guide or guides. When the written material directs you to meditate at a certain time or day, or tells you to ask for the name of a certain entity or guide, you are about to dance with the Dark if you follow the advice. Remember, the Dark must get your permission, regardless of how slight that permission might be, in order to come to you. The law of free will doesn't allow any member of the Confederation (service to other beings of positive polarity such as Christ) to tell you in printed material to ask for them.
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If you wish to channel, or channeling comes easy to you, you would have to seek or strongly desire to have a positive, service-to-others entity make contact with you. This also holds true for the process called auto-writing where people's pens start to seemingly move on their own. If you did make contact with a positive entity, the entity would never give you any answers to anything that you would ask that could possibly violate your free will. In other words, a positive entity is not going to guide you by talking to you on a daily basis. Your lessons and Karma are for you to learn and figure out for yourself, and by going within and listening to your higher self you will be guided in this manner instead. When I talked about buying items in stores where the totals added up to $22.22 and $11.11, this was an example of the kind of guidance that Spirit allows that doesn't violate our free will.

Dark entities are by far the easiest to channel and will commonly violate your free will by giving very specific information about yourself or your friends or virtually anything else you seek.

Another thing that throws people off into believing that they have made contact with a positive entity is that the Dark negative entity can send to the channeler the same warm-fuzzy love energy as the positive entity can. Energy, according to Ra, is available for both positive and negative entities to utilize. Not only love energy, but healing energy.
One of the ways the Dark are able to trick people into thinking that they are dealing with an entity of the Light is that the Dark will often teach the very same identical lessons about love, life, relationships, etc. as entities from the Light. This is exactly what was happening when I was dancing with the entity FORM that I used to go to. FORM could and did talk for hours about love and loving. It had me fooled for several years. I have found that the Dark will gladly send out as much as 99 percent service-to-others, positive polarity lessons of truth about things such as love, just to get a few of their lies into a book or to someone channeling them. The Dark know that the channeler, and people who will read the channeled material, will resonate with that 99 percent truth. They use the 99 percent truth to slip in their lies like a smoke screen so that they go unnoticed, their main lie always being that evil doesn't exist, except in the minds of men.


So what do you think of this??
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Old 04-12-2007, 02:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This is exactly what I mentioned about the greatest created light being who had fallen - Lucifer/Satan.

The Devil’s only real weapon is the weapon of Deceit. By deceiving good as evil and evil as good, he weakens his enemies minds towards opposing him. You are never too far away from error. It’s only a few degrees away from the truth. You are never too far away from the truth either. It is only a few degrees back.

Rat poison is 99 percent wheat and 1 percent poison. He that has ears to hear let him hear. The occult is in every area of human science, arts, religion, philosophy and business. There is no escape from it. Truth is mixed with error in every place. It is only stupidity to shun truth just because there is error. This is one of the main causes of ignorance. We are called to be a light in the darkness, for what good is there with light among light?

Only the truly wise see through such things and know how to discern without the perceptive filters imposed by other lesser minds. The opposite is true, those that see through will become wise. The Devil loses when we know the Truth. Clarity is victory, obscurity is defeat.

The Devil plays the game of mixing truth and error knowing that one out of four situations can happen. Three which are in his favor and only one in yours. Because it is the nature of the subconscious mind to make associations, he knows that the first two situations that could occur would be:

1. You would think that they are both true.
2. You would think that they are both false.

To exercise discernment which is an aspect of the conscious mind, is to differentiated between what’s real and what’s not. The next two situations that could occur would be:

3. You would believe the lie as the truth and the truth as the lie.
4. You would discern what is truly true and what is truly false.

The final option is the one where the Devil is outgamed. To be able to discern correctly requires true wisdom.

True Theory of Everything in the Universe

Satan's main lie has always been that there is no Satan, there is only God. In all other religious teachings such as buddhism, taoism, hindhuism, gnosticsm... etc... there is ONLY GOD, no SATAN. Where did Satan go? Well, he simply did a disappearing act like the master magician he is. Satan has become God in all his other religious teachings.

Satan means Adversary. He is the adversary of the TRUE GOD of Christianity. The Bible is the ONLY place that mentions Satan, the Devil. Satan opposes Christianity so much, especially in the work of Theosophy, because he is the adversary of THE LORD (YAWEH/JEHOVAH).

Remember, Satan is greatest LIGHT BEING in heaven. His light shines so brightly that anyone who looks at him would THINK HE IS GOD. That is how Brilliant THE LORD created his First Angel to be.

But LUCIFER/SATAN/HELEL thought that he could be like the LORD in glory and majesty. He has convinced one third of heavens Angels to believe that they are of equal glory and majesty with THE LORD. Now he is working to convince MAN of the same thing.

Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. (Satan/Helel/Lucifer)

Ezekiel 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. (Yaweh/Jehovah/THE LORD)
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I would reccomend anyone who is willing to channel or thinking about it to read and hopefully consider this information.
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Weird that you post this, been having a ton of syncs leading to this topic. Good timing with the controversy with polarity, too, which I have a ton of problems with.

The pseudo-spiritually glamorous is seductive -- that's the main reason Dr. Hawkins has been so focused on applied kinesiology and calibrations as the only way to objectifiably verifiable truth, direct from Universal Consciousness without distortion. Spiritual seduction is the art of the lower astral realms, one that they are masters of, for millenia. Spiritual seekers and up-and-coming lightworkers are the "juiciest" targets for the lower astral entities, as they rise up their hierarchies the more spiritual human beings they can divert off the path to God.

All the great teachers didn't say that the lower astrals and hells don't exist and have no reality, they say "Don't go there." You're not equipped to go there, not capable of handling lower astral entities. It takes an enormous amount of spiritual discernment to be able to tell. Temptations abound, all along the way.

The Luciferic temptation is to usurp the Power of God, but refuse the Love of God, because the Love of God places limitations on the use of power. You can't kill and control others, with love. To place power above love, to take and use power for its own sake, is to succumb to this temptation and risk going down LOC into the lower astral realms.

The downside of spirituality is naivete, and to counter this is to have humility, to know that we do not know. When we have this humility we are open to Truth from higher sources. But when we assume we know it all, then deceit and falsehood will be able to make inroads into our consciousness.

The best way to rapidly progress spiritually and raise your own LOC as well as mankind's LOC, is to pursue a calibratably-integrous valid pathway to enlightenment. All the needed calibrations are in Dr. Hawkins' "Truth vs. Falsehood." An online list of some of them can be found here:

SpiritualWiki - ListTrueTeachers

Avoid the New Age astral circus, they are all diversions. Psychics, channelling, oujia boards, siddhis (psychic powers), witchcraft and magic, foretelling the future, etc. -- they do exist, they are real, they do work, and they are curiously interesting indeed, but... "Don't go there." Human physicality is a grand karmic opportunity to undo our previous mistakes and make rapid spiritual progress, for us as individuals and as collective mankind --there is no time to waste on astral diversions.

"Straight and narrow is the path...waste no time."
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I agree 200% about Dark spirits disguising themselves as Good spirits. MindReality is right that the devil works by mixing truth in with falsehood. Outright lies will never really accepted by people unless it was mixed in with truth.

Regardless, I am very wary of people who claim to channel beings. I am also weary of Abraham-Hicks. Although some of what she is saying may be correct, some things in it I am sure are false.

Ethereal is also correct that naivete is the main problem when it comes to this sort of thing. When people find a teaching which they believe is correct, they leave reason and discrimination outside and completely accept what the other person is saying. But is humility the only answer? Is there anything else that we can do? If the foundation of our thinking and beliefs are incorrect, then whatever stems from that tree will also be diseased. How else can we keep the roots of our souls pure?

I agree with the list you have provided of people/arts which should be avoided. Just because it is possible doesn't mean that it is territory that must be ventured into. By the way on the list in the link you provided, why are some teachers listed as "fallen"?
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Actually, I'd like to add that this scares me to my core. I'm very scared about this, and rereading this post has renewed my fears. These Dark beings never stop. I don't understand why they would want to create discord and go against God and bring us down with it. Self-delusion! We think that we are correct when we are really not! That is one of the worst things in the world. I wish there were an icon for "shaking in my boots."
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Ethereal is also correct that naivete is the main problem when it comes to this sort of thing. When people find a teaching which they believe is correct, they leave reason and discrimination outside and completely accept what the other person is saying. But is humility the only answer? Is there anything else that we can do? If the foundation of our thinking and beliefs are incorrect, then whatever stems from that tree will also be diseased. How else can we keep the roots of our souls pure?

I agree with the list you have provided of people/arts which should be avoided. Just because it is possible doesn't mean that it is territory that must be ventured into. By the way on the list in the link you provided, why are some teachers listed as "fallen"?
Humility will take you pretty far Keeping humility in mind will help avoid many temptations, i.e. it isn't a "you" doing everything and thus deserving of merit, it is all God's doing so be thankful and not prideful.

Some of these teachers have "fallen" because they weren't sufficiently prepared and succumbed to temptation. Followers and worshippers, money, fame, control over others -- it's pretty easy to start thinking that it's "you" who they are worshipping and who's doing everything! But out of humility we recognize that they are worshipping God, as manifested in you, and that it is a responsibility to help others.

And out of humility, we place our faith in the teachings of those who have gone before us on the path, instead of in our own "mind" that supposedly "knows it all." The great avatars, Christ, Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster, etc., and the great sages all through the ages. More recently, Dr. Hawkins' work. And the great gift of discernment that has been given to mankind, applied kinesiology

There are many valid pathways to Truth that have been verified over and over, there is no need to seek the spiritually glamorous. The Truth has always been plain and simple. But out of curiosity and naivete...
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