Does God Judge?

[DaveTyler]

Will God judge me for being Ego and trying to lead a normal life, with normal views? After all the reading about enlightenment I feel like if I say anything is better than the other I mock God or something and I'll get punished. If I have sex for the the desire of having sex I'll be punished, etc. Is this just me fooling myself from hearing about Christian God? Is this complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ?

What is god anyway? Is he all in the physical world or is it a life force you can't see?

[DoAnyOfYouExist]

I am going to say this and be done with it because I feel I am talking too much, and repeating myself. God is all that is and no he doesn't have a punishment for you, you can punish yourself though and he gives you that ability with cause and effect/karma/universal law. God is both physical and nonphysical, once again everything is God, everything you see and do not see.

From this point on I will let others explain life to you, just so I can be silent and get back to observing.

[DaveTyler]

Ok man Thanks so much for your help, good luck on your path to enlightenment

[MindReality]

God is both a universal force as well as a person.

The Universal and Personal Aspect of God

Most people are misaligned with their knowledge about the Christian God. He is not what they think he is. If they really read their bible, they would know exactly how God is like.

God created sex to be enjoyed within the bounds of marraige. It is good and there is no punishment for sexual desire being experienced naturally.

[DaveTyler]

but marriage are human made concept...
So will I get punished for thinking Ego/having sex without marriage?

[stroodle]

i was working on a lengthy response for your post, but my mind almost exploded trying to explain my thoughts...gaah


so i'll keep it simple,
i think we are god. so, i don't think there is a being judging you.

[Lychee]

There is a force, a being, who is controlling and supporting the whole universe. That is God. Of course, some people will disagree with that statement - we are all free to believe in what we wish.

Marriage is a religious concept.

There are laws which construct this universe. Consequences of going against the Law of God results in disorder and disease. Congruence with Law results in harmony and peace.

If you believe that the prohibition of premarital sex is not worth following and you do not believe in it, engaging in such behavior will not really bother you because you personally do not hold that belief. There might be a silent voice saying it is wrong. However, just because you personally do not believe it is true does not mean that you are indeed correct or right.

[torilink]

Hi again Dave,

I'm going to keep religion out of this response. Marriage is a religious concept.

Love is Unconditional.
You are judged by the Ego Mind only - You judge yourself, and the judgement is projected onto others. This is why forgiveness of others is forgiveness of self.

Unconditional Love is Extension. Extension is Creation. We are here to Extend the Unconditional Love of our creator, through extension (creation).

There is Love or Fear. Love extends (creation) - Fear projects (judgement).

So, in short - no your ego exists in this realm only and is not part of the extension. When your body dies, all of your projections and miscreations cease to exist as only Love is eternal.

In this realm our physical bodies are a tool to facilitate learning - Sex is one way to use this tool/body for the extension of love, if the experience is loving in nature. Marriage is a Moot point and really only matters in terms of social moraes and religion. It is an archaic social structure from thousands of years ago when women were property and bartered and exchanged for goods.

I hope this helps.

[MindReality]

Marriage is not a religious concept neither is it a human construct.

Marriage is ordained by God for man and woman. It is God's design for life.

Hebrew 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Marriage was created for men and women as a symbol of a greater covenant between Christ and the Church.

Marriage is the reconciliation between Christ the bridegroom and his bride the Church.

Marriage is a sacred and sanctified form of relationship between man and woman. It is also a sacred and sanctified form of relationship between believers and Christ. Those who are in Christ are set apart for God unto holiness and righteousness.

Revelations 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife.

[Billy]

Originally Posted by torilink

Hi again Dave,

I'm going to keep religion out of this response. Marriage is a religious concept.

Love is Unconditional.
You are judged by the Ego Mind only - You judge yourself, and the judgement is projected onto others. This is why forgiveness of others is forgiveness of self.

Unconditional Love is Extension. Extension is Creation. We are here to Extend the Unconditional Love of our creator, through extension (creation).

There is Love or Fear. Love extends (creation) - Fear projects (judgement).

So, in short - no your ego exists in this realm only and is not part of the extension. When your body dies, all of your projections and miscreations cease to exist as only Love is eternal.

In this realm our physical bodies are a tool to facilitate learning - Sex is one way to use this tool/body for the extension of love, if the experience is loving in nature. Marriage is a Moot point and really only matters in terms of social moraes and religion. It is an archaic social structure from thousands of years ago when women were property and bartered and exchanged for goods.

I hope this helps.

Damn straight

[torilink]

Originally Posted by MindReality

Marriage is not a religious concept neither is it a human construct.

Marriage is ordained by God for man and woman. It is God's design for life.

Hebrew 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Marriage was created for men and women as a symbol of a greater covenant between Christ and the Church.

Marriage is the reconciliation between Christ the bridegroom and his bride the Church.

Marriage is a sacred and sanctified form of relationship between man and woman. It is also a sacred and sanctified form of relationship between believers and Christ. Those who are in Christ are set apart for God unto holiness and righteousness.

Revelations 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife.

If this is your belief, then it is your reality.
It is not my belief - I don't think the bible is literal.
Look at what you quoted - "Whoremongers" "God will judge".

My belief is we are all judged "Not Guilty" because bodies cannot sin. bodies are tools for creation as directed by the mind (soul) or the ego. If directed by the Mind then it is perfect creation, if the ego it is miscreation and not eternal.

If you think anything we could do could offend God, then you place too much importance on the ego/body.

[MindReality]

Originally Posted by torilink

If this is your belief, then it is your reality.
It is not my belief - I don't think the bible is literal.
Look at what you quoted - "Whoremongers" "God will judge".

My belief is we are all judged "Not Guilty" because bodies cannot sin. bodies are tools for creation as directed by the mind (soul) or the ego. If directed by the Mind then it is perfect creation, if the ego it is miscreation and not eternal.

If you think anything we could do could offend God, then you place too much importance on the ego/body.

To sin is to MISS the Mark. Sinning is simply choosing to think and act in ways that are in MISALIGNMENT with the Thoughts of the MOST HIGH GOD.

All sin is sin whether physical or mental.

The bible says that:

Romans 3:23 For ALL have SINNED, and come short of the glory of God

but:

Romans 5:19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the Obedience of One shall many be made righteous.

The obedience of One is the obedience of Christ Jesus. Righteousness is a GIFT that can only be received by believing in the Son of God for giving his life to take away our sins and to give us his righteousness.

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we DECEIVE ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

The Ego, the individuated part of our spirit has SINNED against the Divine Ego, The Trinity, The Personal Aspect of God and deserves to be punished because God as a Person is Holy and cannot stand SIN in His presence. Although we can never be seperated from the universal aspect of God, the essence of All, we can be seperated RELATIONALLY with the personal aspect of God by SIN.

The Ego, the individuated part of our spirit will go to HELL after death because of SIN. Only the Blood of the Lamb cleanses us from ALL SIN and reconciles our individuated spirit with the spirit of God personally.

[torilink]

Those are your beliefs, and are true for you alone.

This is my belief and is true for me.
God doesn't judge. Unconditional love is without judgement. God has no Ego.

My ego isn't part of my spirit, it is seperate. It ceases to be at death.
There is ONE son of God, which we all are part of that body of consciousness.

[DoAnyOfYouExist]

I am disappointed in myself for the way I am currently feeling but I am realizing how much I loathe Christianity. I used to respect you and enjoy your posts mindreality but now I see how astray you are. Any belief is harmful to you as it is an attachment and all attachment will hold the truth away from you. No religion and no spoken word WILL ever convey the truth. It must be seen, felt, experienced. You do not know the truth and you sit here quoting your bible. I am sick to my stomach. I accept that you believe this and that but I do not believe any of that. I need to go meditate and figure out why I have this horrible feeling towards Christianity and religion in general...actually I know exactly what the problem is now I need to figure out how to release its effect on me. I'll be back later. I appologize for my hostility although it feels much more like frustration, but I am probably projecting hostility.

[DiscoDan]

In order to judge, one must be separate from that which is being judged. In other words, judging implies extra, outside information that you have (as the judger) that those who you judge do not have (a Christian example might be "how do I avoid sin?" Surely the God of Christianity must know this and, as a result, he can judge us).

Yet if judging implies inherent "separateness", how can God both exist in this universe and judge it at the same time?

[DiscoDan]

Originally Posted by MindReality

Only the Blood of the Lamb cleanses us from ALL SIN and reconciles our individuated spirit with the spirit of God personally.

Are you saying that God condemns all who do not believe in Jesus? What about those who lived and died without ever hearing mention of his name? What about infants who die before they are capable of speaking, let alone believing in Jesus? What about those who died before he even got here? Are they all condemned to hell because they could only have been saved through the "blood of the lamb"?

[pictokid]

lol really recall my thoughts about the Force

any1 can access the force n use it, either u become a jedi or a sith but both walk diff paths n hav diff values

[MindReality]

Originally Posted by DiscoDan

Are you saying that God condemns all who do not believe in Jesus? What about those who lived and died without ever hearing mention of his name? What about infants who die before they are capable of speaking, let alone believing in Jesus? What about those who died before he even got here? Are they all condemned to hell because they could only have been saved through the "blood of the lamb"?

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Everyone who ever lived would have been given a chance to hear about the name of The Lord. God is fair and just. Even in solitude God would reveal himself as Lord to them. Everyone would have a chance to believe The Lord is God Most High.

Children who die before they are born or before they are of intelligeable age to understand salvation, are still innocent in their consciousness, therefore they are not yet accountable for choosing their faith. Such will go to heaven when they die because of the fairness and grace of God.

If you want to know how this is so, the truth is YOUR NAME is WRITTEN in the LAMB'S BOOK OF LIFE right now.

When Jesus Christ died on the cross and paid for the sins of the whole world, the names of everyone that exists from the beginning of time to the end are written in the Book of Life. So people of the world have their names written in the Book of Life whether they believe in Jesus or not until the very end of time. God the Father does not consider which point in your life you actually get saved before he considers you as his child. To him, you are his child from the very day you were conceived in your mother’s womb till the day you pass from this Earth.

The only work that is involved is the work of God, that you believe on Him whom He sent. At the last judgment, the issue will be faith in Christ, not sins. If someone has failed to trust in Christ during his lifetime on earth, his name is BLOTTED out of the book of life and he will spend eternity separated from the Godhead in the lake of fire which is the Second Death.

Book of Life - Your Name is Written in It

Therefore if you are of volitional age where you have the consciousness to choose what you believe in, then you accountable for your choice to believe in THE LORD or not. All of US here believe in GOD (ELOHIM) but who believes that THE LORD (YAWEH/JEHOVAH) is GOD? If you believe in the Father, you will believe IN THE SON (JESUS CHRIST) as SAVIOUR, because God reveals himself not only as CREATOR but also as REDEEMER.

THE LOVE OF GOD is demonstrated by him Sacrificing his Only Son to save us from our Sins. Believe in the personal love of God by believing in his Son.

[DiscoDan]

Originally Posted by MindReality

THE LOVE OF GOD is demonstrated by him Sacrificing his Only Son to save us from our Sins. Believe in the personal love of God by believing in his Son.

So is Gandhi condemned to eternity in hell because he did not believe Jesus was the son of God?

[MindReality]

Originally Posted by DiscoDan

So is Gandhi condemned to eternity in hell because he did not believe Jesus was the son of God?

Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS are as FILTHY RAGS; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Righteousness is a GIFT of God through his Son Jesus Christ, not by our works.

Ephisians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Our righteousness by our own works CANNOT be compared to the BLOOD that was Shed by the Son of God for the attonement of all our sins.

To think that a man can qualify for heaven with his good deeds would be DEGRADING the VALUE of the BLOOD of the LAMB. If we can be saved from our sins by neutralizing KARMA and doing Good Deeds, then CHRIST did NOT have to DIE on the Cross for our sins.

The very fact that Man could not SAVE Himself therefore God had to SAVE him personally, is Divine Intervention at the Highest Level.

Because of One Man's Sin (Adam) all of us are made sinners, so shall One Man's Obedience (Jesus) shall all be made righteous.

Romans 5:19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

We were born into the world as sinners because of the word of one man, but we can enter into heaven through the work of one man. Since it was impossible for anyone to save themselves from their own sins, God made it easy for every one to be saved. Whosever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life.

[torilink]

I say again, THESE are your interpretation of what the Bible says. These are your perceptions that SACRIFICE and BLOOD are required for atonement.

The New Testament is a beautiful book that is SYMBOLIC, and teaches enlightenment.

Revelations teaches the steps of final purification and acceptance of the experience of enlightenment.

editing to add:

It isn't the death of Jesus which is the Atonement, it is the resurrection. It is the awakening to the spirit, and the release of Ego/Body. Death through crucifixion is Symbolic of the Ego's self judgement and how it is projected upon others, whom we crucify with our Judgements (thought they are without sin).

Through forgiving those who crucify us, and relinquishing our Ego's, we Awaken to everlasting eternal truth.

I could go on, but I doubt it would do any good. But please, just because it is your truth doesn't mean it is the TRUTH.

[torilink]

Originally Posted by MindReality

Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS are as FILTHY RAGS; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.This is in reference to the EGO MIND

Righteousness is a GIFT of God through his Son Jesus Christ, not by our works.

Righteousness is a GIFT of GOD TO his SON - WE are God's Only Begotten SON, just because we appear to be many doesn't diminish the fact that we are all a part of the BODY.

Ephisians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Our righteousness by our own works CANNOT be compared to the BLOOD that was Shed by the Son of God for the attonement of all our sins.

Atonement = Forgiveness. We receive as we give. In order to partake of the Atonement, we must all forgive one another EVERYTHING we perceived was done to us.

To think that a man can qualify for heaven with his good deeds would be DEGRADING the VALUE of the BLOOD of the LAMB. If we can be saved from our sins by neutralizing KARMA and doing Good Deeds, then CHRIST did NOT have to DIE on the Cross for our sins.

BLOOD of the LAMB - The blood of the innocent. As I have stated, we are all part of the BODY of CHRIST, thus innocent. The blood is what is shed each time we attack one another and crucify one another through our Ego projections.

The very fact that Man could not SAVE Himself therefore God had to SAVE him personally, is Divine Intervention at the Highest Level.

Because of One Man's Sin (Adam) all of us are made sinners, so shall One Man's Obedience (Jesus) shall all be made righteous.

Better quoted: Because of one man partook of Ego JUDGEMENT (knowledge of good and evil) we are all made sinners(judgers). One Man's release of judgement of his brothers & sisters - we are made righteous.

Romans 5:19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

We were born into the world as sinners because of the word of one man, but we can enter into heaven through the work of one man. Since it was impossible for anyone to save themselves from their own sins, God made it easy for every one to be saved. Whosever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life.

Adam "Sinned" by partaking of misperception. Thus there began miscreation. Often referred to as "Sin". Adam created his Ego (which was a miscreation) and the Ego has created most of this reality. When we accept that all that has ever or will ever exist is Perfection, and we realize everything else is simply a misperception or illusion - the we seperate the Wheat (eternal creations) from the Chaff (miscreations). The Illusion falls away and all that is left is LOVE.

My point here is this: Your truth is no better than mine. Mine no better than yours. Simply different understandings. When you demand that your perceptions are GOD's then I have a problem with what you say.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by DaveTyler

Will God judge me for being Ego and trying to lead a normal life, with normal views? After all the reading about enlightenment I feel like if I say anything is better than the other I mock God or something and I'll get punished. If I have sex for the the desire of having sex I'll be punished, etc. Is this just me fooling myself from hearing about Christian God? Is this complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ?

What is god anyway? Is he all in the physical world or is it a life force you can't see?

God is a term that in my opinion has been misused throughout the ages because of too much personalization, which limits it and makes it far less than it actually is. Some individuals instead use the term "Source" to designate the origin of everything that exists. People talk about Source being a kind of oneness, but despite their fanciful words and esoteric demeanor, most end up picturing source in a very human way (for some, that is necessary to understand it) with a personality, sense of morality, and a hot temper . However, this would not be accurate from my perspective. So to cut to the chase, a clear cut definition of Source is basically all that exists, and the less widely thought about: all that does not exist. The difference between the two is only a reality for us, who exist as obervers observing the observed. From a state of Source consciousness, everything that could exist does exist with a state of absolute completeness. The distinction between the two is not necessary at that level.

You have to understand that Source has no preference whatosever. Preference only happens when a unit or units of consciousness make an object of that which we ascribe the thoughtform of "desirable". For example, you decide that sunshine is preferable to rain, even though both are just weather phenomena with a list of experienceable attributes. Neither is better than the other, just different. We develop such preferences for a variety of reasons, some of them genetic, some of them psychological, and some of them by other modes perhaps. So in regards to your question, Source doesn't judge, because source has no preference. That state of consciousness (of which you are a part of), has no preference. To Source, it is just as permissable for you to wallow in your human ego, as it is to try and grow beyond your ego. One path leads to expansion of one's state of being, and the other leads to contraction of one's state of being. Both offer different benefits in consciousness, which I won't go into right now.

So while your original thought that it does not bring you closer to Source to hold one object in higher esteem than another object is more or less accurate, your other thought that you will be punished for this state of mind is incorrect. Unless, of course, you decide consciously, or subconsciously, to punish yourself in which case, you will manifest that experience for yourself via the law of attraction (which I prefer to call "law of manifestation" because "attraction" implies distance, which is just furthering the 3 dimensional ego state of mind).

It's important to realize that 99% percent of the world's population has preference and it is no sin to have such. The particular reality we live in is service to self primarily by its very nature. If we weren't that way, we'd probably not fight to survive and genetic life would be a short lived anomaly. There are realities that aren't this way, but we've accepted the challenge of this type for now for various reasons, so no need to beat ourselves up for something that is completely natural . It's simply a state of mind on the continuum of existence. Despite what some preach, even if you didn't work on your spiritual development, it would happen anyway, in it's own good time. Consciousness is like a seed -- you plant it, and it grows up. It's automatic. It may take along time, but eventually that seed will sprout and grow up. There are many gardeners to help accelerate the process when you want it though .

So don't worry, be happy.

[mentalmosaic]

I don't know about your God, but mine doesn't judge.

When I was a kid, they told us in Sunday school that God was more loving and more powerful than any human could ever imagine. I thought, "Hey, I can't even stay mad at my sister for more than a couple of days. Surely, God is better than me!" From that point on, I just couldn't believe in Hell.

Thought-provoking thread here!

Tui
_____________________
mental mosaic - pick up your pieces; make something pretty

[Michael Chui]

Hey, MindReality.

"It is good for a man not to marry." 1 Corinthians 7:1. Feel free to read the rest of the chapter.

And marriage is an economic concept.

[MindReality]

Originally Posted by torilink

Adam "Sinned" by partaking of misperception. Thus there began miscreation. Often referred to as "Sin". Adam created his Ego (which was a miscreation) and the Ego has created most of this reality. When we accept that all that has ever or will ever exist is Perfection, and we realize everything else is simply a misperception or illusion - the we seperate the Wheat (eternal creations) from the Chaff (miscreations). The Illusion falls away and all that is left is LOVE.

My point here is this: Your truth is no better than mine. Mine no better than yours. Simply different understandings. When you demand that your perceptions are GOD's then I have a problem with what you say.

Your interpretation of the Word of God is also true. This is the gnostic understanding of the Word of God.

You see, everything in the Word of God has a Dual Meaning to it.

You can always perceive God's Word from the perspective of Enlightenment or you can percerceive it from the perspective of Redemption.

Because God is Both a Universal God and a Personal God.

Your perspective of God's Word is what I agree with as well because it is the Gnosis and universal truth of God (Elohim)

But there is the other half of the truth that reveals God as Salvation.

The personal side of the truth is revealed in the Son of God Jesus Christ.

We may all be One Consciousness, but within the One Consciousness, there are Many personalities. There is One Personality that is EL ELYON (God Most High) and He is The LORD.

We are all part of the BODY of GOD (ELOHIM) but the GODHEAD is the Trinity (Father, Son and Holy Spirit). These are Three Personalities in One GodHead.

Now, which heavenly being is SO ENLIGHTENED to perceive the Word of GOD from the perspective of Enlightenment?

He is none other than the Enlightener of the World - LUCIFER

Lucifer whose real name is Helel (Shining Star) is more enlightened than all of us put together. He was created to be the highest spiritual power of heaven.

But the bible says about Lucifer/Helel that:

Ezekiel 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

Isaiah 14:13-14 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I Will Be Like The MOST HIGH.

Now is Lucifer wrong about the perspective of God's Word as enlightenment? NO! Because Lucifer knows God better than we all. But what he has done is to hide the perspective of Salvation about God's Word from Man.

Why? Because he is Satan (Adversary). He doesn't want Man to believe in the Personal Aspect of God (The Trinity) and God's idea of Salvation.

He has convinced one third of Heaven's Angels that they can all be like the MOST HIGH, The Trinity, the Godhead, because they are all God.

He claims that the trinity is simply the Atzilat or the First Projection of The One. Lucifer claims that The One is beyond the trinity (The Three), and therefore the trinity are wrong in their perception about being the only sovereignty. He claims that sovereignty belongs to The All, therefore every being has the right to be like the Most High.

But Lucifer has sinned against the Trinity, by doubting and accusing the perception of The Most High God Personality.

2 Corinthians 4:3-4 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Lucifer is the god of this world now, but he has created his own version of the Word of God through Gnostism by claiming that the creator God is the demiurge... and that the true God is the One Consciousness from which the demiurge came.

The bible calls Lucifer/Satan the one who deceives the whole world with his corrupted truth about The Lord.

The truth that I speak is not of my own, but it is of The Lord. I did not say God (Elohim) because Lucifer is also part of Elohim. I said The Lord (Yaweh/Jehovah). The Lord wants your eyes to be opened to the truth about him.

Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

[Akashic_Librarian]

@MindReality.

Are you saying that my belief that I AM GOD, is essentially the work of Helel?

That God will punish me forthinking highly of myself? Should I humbled by his presence?

[MindReality]

Originally Posted by Akashic_Librarian

@MindReality.

Are you saying that my belief that I AM GOD, is essentially the work of Helel?

That God will punish me forthinking highly of myself? Should I humbled by his presence?

You are God, I am God, we are all God (Elohim). That is true.

Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

But we should worship The Lord (Yaweh/Jehovah) and serve only him for he is the Godhead.

Luke 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

The work of Helel is to overule the will of The Lord. For he says that we are God therefore we should worship no other gods but ourselves.

But the bible says:

Deuteronomy 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward

But Satan/Helel/Lucifer has done this:

Daniel 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

[Akashic_Librarian]

But WHY should I worship the God head? I don't see what gain can be got from it. Other than unprovable promise of eternal bliss. This is MY life and...I just don't feel that because its written in some book, that I should serve someone incomprhendable deity.

[Lychee]

Originally Posted by MindReality

Marriage is ordained by God for man and woman. It is God's design for life.

Yeah, that's what I meant. I guess it came out wrong.