I need answer to this

[DaveTyler]

how do you know the world existed before you were born......maybe you are the only one on earth that matters, the rest of us are just actors on a stage playing out your life?

[Akashic_Librarian]

Good question. I would personally say reality is a very personal thing. So...who knows

[DaveTyler]

True that, but subjectivity can't exist without objectivity right?
It's like , if someone made everyone he could just walk around killing people without feeling bad for it.
He'd prolly die first though when trying to fly for the first time

[JHL]

Originally Posted by DaveTyler

.....maybe you are the only one on earth that matters?

That thought goes quite nicely with my signature

[Lychee]

Originally Posted by DaveTyler

True that, but subjectivity can't exist without objectivity right?
It's like , if someone made everyone he could just walk around killing people without feeling bad for it.
He'd prolly die first though when trying to fly for the first time

YES subjectivity cannot exist without objectivity.

[DaveTyler]

I think personally after pondering so much about it, that subjectivity is kind of dangerous if you TRUELY believe in it, cause it's like you can suddenly be drunk one day and have some funny thoughts(and now remember your beliefs are twisted) so your like I can rape this woman, no problem, she's not real anyway.
Such things are ************edup.


This does not mean Law of attraction doesn't work, it does, cause in the end you can create things in your life with your actions.
That's what teachers mean with "if you want a girl, don't set a face or name on her, trust the universe(law of attraction) to give you the type of girl u want" cause out there, there's a girl wanting a guy like you and when ur attractions mix, u manifest eachother.
But if u want a girl and she dont want you, it's a error and nothing will happen.. except you wanting her more, as u manifest more desire for her.

Believing you can change the whole reality is ************edup and I dare anyone of u to jump from your roof(if the height wont kill you) just to feel the pain of hitting the ground and feeling that your not the most important thing in the universe..

[stroodle]

Originally Posted by DaveTyler

how do you know the world existed before you were born......maybe you are the only one on earth that matters, the rest of us are just actors on a stage playing out your life?

i've thought about this before

if life is a puzzle of a picture,

maybe im the only person that matters in the picture....trying to solve the puzzle

that make any sense??

[Truefire]

Originally Posted by DaveTyler

I think personally after pondering so much about it, that subjectivity is kind of dangerous if you TRUELY believe in it, cause it's like you can suddenly be drunk one day and have some funny thoughts(and now remember your beliefs are twisted) so your like I can rape this woman, no problem, she's not real anyway.
Such things are ************edup.


This does not mean Law of attraction doesn't work, it does, cause in the end you can create things in your life with your actions.
That's what teachers mean with "if you want a girl, don't set a face or name on her, trust the universe(law of attraction) to give you the type of girl u want" cause out there, there's a girl wanting a guy like you and when ur attractions mix, u manifest eachother.
But if u want a girl and she dont want you, it's a error and nothing will happen.. except you wanting her more, as u manifest more desire for her.

Believing you can change the whole reality is ************edup and I dare anyone of u to jump from your roof(if the height wont kill you) just to feel the pain of hitting the ground and feeling that your not the most important thing in the universe..

You're right, the ramifications are crazy. But I don't think people are that stupid in general. Rape is wrong and you go to jail for murder, whether you're a creator or not.

In your example about getting a girl via the LOA: Just because you want something doesn't mean you should ignore blindspots. Just because such a woman enters your life doesn't mean that you're going to have the confidence to talk to her and attract her. I mean how well could this line go?
"hey baby, the universe sent me you, wanna go out sometime?"

[DaveTyler]

Yeah but you won't go to jail, cause you create the whole universe, so right now you can just say rape is legal and it will become legal... SO NO, subjective reality cannot exist. It's simple as that and everyone who wants to say it does, jump from a roof first and tell me how floatin on skies was.
Most likely you'll be telling me about it from a hospital bed anyway and the only thing your "floating on" is painkillers.

And about the girl: noo, I mean more that you attract the oppourtunity, the rest is up to you.

That's what I think subjective reality is about, you only attract oppourtunities WHICH ALREADY EXIST in objective reality that your a part of.
Otherwise creating the universe in the first place would be pointless if "god" wasn't meant to experience it from all different perspectives.
That's why killing the ego is wrong I think

[Truefire]

Originally Posted by DaveTyler

Yeah but you won't go to jail, cause you create the whole universe, so right now you can just say rape is legal and it will become legal... SO NO, subjective reality cannot exist. It's simple as that and everyone who wants to say it does, jump from a roof first and tell me how floatin on skies was.
Most likely you'll be telling me about it from a hospital bed anyway and the only thing your "floating on" is painkillers.

And about the girl: noo, I mean more that you attract the oppourtunity, the rest is up to you.

That's what I think subjective reality is about, you only attract oppourtunities WHICH ALREADY EXIST in objective reality that your a part of.
Otherwise creating the universe in the first place would be pointless if "god" wasn't meant to experience it from all different perspectives.
That's why killing the ego is wrong I think

Subjective reality has its uses. I think your understanding of the concept is off. Subjective reality means you take 100% responsibility for your actions and your PRESENT reality. Modify your thoughts and your FUTURE will change.
In my reality, jail exists, cops exist, rape exists. I could change that by moving to a third world country. My subjective reality would change around me. Speaking relatively, My position is constant and the world moves around me.

By default, your reality IS subjective. You have a perspective, therefore you have a subjective reality. From this reality ANYTHING is possible. You can transform your life into something wonderful, but it is hardly an instant change. You're focusing so much on modifying physics, why?

About the girl: I thought that was what I said.

I don't understand your line of reasoning in the last paragraph.

[DoAnyOfYouExist]

Originally Posted by Truefire

You're focusing so much on modifying physics, why?

Well seeing as this fellow is a piece of me, a projection, I'd say it is because I spend a good amount of time day dreaming about bending the laws of physics. Ever since I was a child I guess. It would be the most concrete proof to me of what I am and the powers I hold. I cannot bend these laws of physics currently(although I have on occasions of extreme heightened consciousness) because this would mean all kinds of problems for me. It is like wanting the powers and experience of enlightenment and still wanting to have an ego. You see once you have these powers you have no desire to use them, there is no reason to, all is as it already should be. Crap off on a tangent here.

Dave as for the raping and murdering and all that stuff you talked about is the opposite of how you would feel or act when you realize you are everything and everything is you. Why in your delusional mind would you ever want to rape, murder, hurt, hit, curse, all around mistreat ANYONE, when they are a projection of you...A PIECE OF YOU. You cannot exist without them and they without you. So people aren't "REAL" they don't "MATTER" ....WRONG! I was in this same mindset after my burst of intense experiences. That my friend was DeLUSIONAL, an I will be the very first to admit, I was in a very fractured mindset. I had seen the truth but it had been distorted and I had misunderstood. Bottom line is we are all in this together Dave, and no matter if I am a projection of you or you of I doesn't really matter. We are all one so treat all with love. You will come out of this darkness my brother, you will be at ease.

[DaveTyler]

I would never ever have done such a thing I was illustrating a point.
It's like, I want to have a individual life, but knowing all this it seems impossible to go back to having ai ndividual life.

[DaveTyler]

Originally Posted by DaveTyler

I would never ever have done such a thing I was illustrating a point.
It's like, I want to have a individual life, but knowing all this it seems impossible to go back to having ai ndividual life.

This is all exagaratted by my fear of going mental, as I feel like I have some serious delusions going on

[DoAnyOfYouExist]

Originally Posted by DaveTyler

This is all exagaratted by my fear of going mental, as I feel like I have some serious delusions going on

Been there, coming out the other side is actually quite nice, very confidence giving. See thats the thing my friend YOU KNOW they are delusions, so don't friggin give them another thought, simple as that. I let my delusions run me into the corner for way too long and I don't want you letting them run your ************ now either. You can feel it in you what the delusions are and what aren't. I know you can, I can tell by your writting. You are going to be wonderful in time my brother. This too will pass. DO NOT give up on your goal of being an artist my friend, this is my true goal and passion also, ever since a child I could draw and all my life I have been told how amazing I am and how I should be professional, but I always shrugged it off but now I am embracing the art more. Do not do it for fame, fame will only bring pain. Just do it to create...thats the point my friend. When you feel shitty just sit down and start drawing, get into it. This is a form of meditation and I know it puts my soul at ease...I feel we have similar souls and I know this should help you. Dunno what else to say right now but just know I have felt what you are feeling and it does get better.