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mysterygal · 04-09-2007, 07:40 PM

A lot of people think that we are all in a lucid dream right now....do you believe that? If so, what do you think we will wake up to?

stroodle · 04-09-2007, 09:52 PM

i think its a very cool theory

maybe that's what death is in 'this world/reality', waking up

maybe that's why we have lucid dreams and dreams, to give us a hint

mysterygal · 04-09-2007, 09:55 PM

I know it's very alluring. But I have been going through different theories and religions, and the only find one that really makes sense. If matter existed first, and consciousness arose from matter, then we would die along with our bodies.A lot religions say that God made everything, and once we die our bodies die and our souls go on. But that would ONLY work IF conscousness existed FIRST. So, I'm starting to think that we are infact dreaming. Our ego bodies are our dream avatars, and once we awaken we will return to the dreamer aka consciousness.

DaveTyler · 04-09-2007, 09:57 PM

but if so, why are you talking to us? we don't exist...

mysterygal · 04-09-2007, 09:58 PM

I never said that you don't exist...only you said that.

DaveTyler · 04-09-2007, 10:01 PM

I mean, if your in a dream, and everyone else is illusions in your mind, how can we REALLY exist?

mysterygal · 04-09-2007, 10:03 PM

I think it makes more sense to say that we are in a shared dream. When we go to sleep at night we experience an individual dream, inwhich we are the only will and the only one in existence. A night-time dream is a metaphor for what reality is. Consciousness is the dreamer, the only thing that is real in dreams is cosciousness, everything else is an illusion.

mysterygal · 04-10-2007, 01:03 AM

There are over 6 billion people on the planet. It's kinda depressing to think of how small we are in the grand scheme of things.

DoAnyOfYouExist · 04-10-2007, 01:20 AM

I have thought about this, of course I have :P This meshes nicely with my unplanned spiritual day yesterday which consisted of reading a Zen book by Osho, watching the movie Waking Life(WATCH THIS MOVIE IF YOU HAVEN'T, GOES WELL WITH THIS THREAD), and watched Southpark(don't ask it just worked). What will we awaken to? Oneness of course. Infinite Love.

mysterygal · 04-10-2007, 01:28 AM

But how could we actually know if that is true? There are sooo many different religions, how could be say one is more true than another? To me there are so many different faiths, and so little proof of any of them...It's like playing the lottery...you pick one faith and hope it's the right one.

DoAnyOfYouExist · 04-10-2007, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mysterygal

But how could we actually know if that is true? There are sooo many different religions, how could be say one is more true than another? To me there are so many different faiths, and so little proof of any of them...It's like playing the lottery...you pick one faith and hope it's the right one.

Well from what I have seen I would have to side with this belief of mine. I believe that everything exists. Infinity... Now there is ONE truth, just the way it is. You can accept that ONE truth or you can choose a myriad of half truth's ect ect. This is just my belief and I hope it doesn't offend anyone. At the moment of death, depending on your life and how you have condition yourself to believe in life and death will determine where your "soul" goes. Maybe you reincarnate, maybe you sit in heaven and chill with Jesus. Anything and every possibility exists, it is up to you to choose which you will embrace. Just the scattered thoughts of the fool on the hill.

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04-09-2007, 09:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
stroodle Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 60	i think its a very cool theory maybe that's what death is in 'this world/reality', waking up maybe that's why we have lucid dreams and dreams, to give us a hint

04-09-2007, 09:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
mysterygal Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 76	I know it's very alluring. But I have been going through different theories and religions, and the only find one that really makes sense. If matter existed first, and consciousness arose from matter, then we would die along with our bodies.A lot religions say that God made everything, and once we die our bodies die and our souls go on. But that would ONLY work IF conscousness existed FIRST. So, I'm starting to think that we are infact dreaming. Our ego bodies are our dream avatars, and once we awaken we will return to the dreamer aka consciousness.

04-09-2007, 09:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
DaveTyler Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 429	but if so, why are you talking to us? we don't exist...

04-09-2007, 09:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
mysterygal Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 76	I never said that you don't exist...only you said that.

04-09-2007, 10:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
DaveTyler Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 429	I mean, if your in a dream, and everyone else is illusions in your mind, how can we REALLY exist?

04-09-2007, 10:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
mysterygal Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 76	I think it makes more sense to say that we are in a shared dream. When we go to sleep at night we experience an individual dream, inwhich we are the only will and the only one in existence. A night-time dream is a metaphor for what reality is. Consciousness is the dreamer, the only thing that is real in dreams is cosciousness, everything else is an illusion.

04-10-2007, 01:03 AM	#8 (permalink)
mysterygal Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 76	There are over 6 billion people on the planet. It's kinda depressing to think of how small we are in the grand scheme of things.

04-10-2007, 01:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
DoAnyOfYouExist Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 255	I have thought about this, of course I have :P This meshes nicely with my unplanned spiritual day yesterday which consisted of reading a Zen book by Osho, watching the movie Waking Life(WATCH THIS MOVIE IF YOU HAVEN'T, GOES WELL WITH THIS THREAD), and watched Southpark(don't ask it just worked). What will we awaken to? Oneness of course. Infinite Love.

04-10-2007, 01:28 AM	#10 (permalink)
mysterygal Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 76	But how could we actually know if that is true? There are sooo many different religions, how could be say one is more true than another? To me there are so many different faiths, and so little proof of any of them...It's like playing the lottery...you pick one faith and hope it's the right one.

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