Are the Borg an allusion to the Holy Trinity?

[Tasaio]

Greetings,

I am neither Christian nor atheist, but exploring various belief systems. To that end, I am trying to understand the concept of the Trinity that was never taught to me.

As I understand it (please correct me if I am wrong):

God the Father is the Mind, the thinking part -- the brain

Jesus, the Son, is the Word, the voice of God -- he transmits the messages from the Mind into words for humans to understand

The Holy Spirit/Ghost is the presence of God within each and every one of us. It's the feeling of warmth you experience from being being part of God.

God is both a singular entity (Jehova) and the Universe itself.

Let's compare God to the Borg from Star Trek.

In this analogy, the "Holy Spirit" is the presence of the Hive Mind within your thoughts.

The "Word" is the Borg Queen, the representitive of the Hive Mind in a physical form. In her own words:

"I am the Borg. I am the Beginning...the End...the one who is many."

She functions as both the Hive Mind *and* as a unique individual. Much the same as how Jesus is both God *and* a unique individual.

Lastly, "God" is the Hive Mind, the non-corporeal mind the controls all of the Borg drones.

Now, I wonder if the Borg cube was inspired by Metatron's Cube.

Do you think the Borg were designed with these allusions in mind, as a sort of enemy-Trinity? I know that writer Ron D. Moore comes across as Christian, but writer Brannon Braga is atheist.

[Akashic_Librarian]

Live long and prosper...

thats about my level of understanding of Star Trek.

[Glass Joe]

For some reason I've been thinking a lot lately about the Holy Trinity too.

This is just my opinion, but one interpretation I came up with is this:

- God the Father: The director outside your life-movie.

- God the Son: The actor inside your life-movie.

- God the Holy (Whole?) Spirit: The screen, the movie, the actors, the audience, the whole process. Everything.

Basically, the Holy Trinity consists of different aspects of, or different ways of seeing/knowing/experiencing, one single "Self". These three aspects are differentiated, but not necessarily separate. One particular aspect can't exist without the other two.

And now that I think about it, they are really only differentiated for the convenience of the "Actor". To the "Director" and the "Process", these distinctions are meaningless. Similar to how from the perspective inside a black hole, time and space are meaningless.

[Aphrodite]

God the Father is the 'whole' the original source of life where we came from and return to.

God the Son was an enlighted soul that was aware of this and could tap directly into the original source and use its power.

the Holy Spirit, is what God the Son used to connect with God the father and manifest those powers etc here on this plane of existence.

we can all tap into the holy spirit and use it as it travels within us all and unites us all.

[Keith]

In answer to your question: No.

[MindReality]

In the borg we have no individuality, but in Elohim (God) we have individuality.

In the borg we are one and non distinct, but in Elohim we are one and distinct.

The borg is a degraded form of collective consciousness.

The borg is the one and many without differentiation.

Elohim is the one and many with differentiation.

There is no uniqueness in the borg but there is uniqueness in Elohim.

The borg is unholy form of existence. There is no I and You but only I.

Elohim is a holy form of existence. There is I and You. I am ME and I am all of YOU.

[Freelancer]

I absolutely love your comparison to the borg, I remember being terrified of those things. I used to always stop watching star trek the moment the borg where even close, right now I love them...

Although the comparison probably has a few flaws (the poster above me seems to get really close to pointing all of them out).




Ps. I'm raised as a christian but the starting point has always been that I had to figure it out for myself. Right now I believe in a entity but I haven't figured out how the universe works yet (for me)...

[Keith]

Originally Posted by Freelancer

I absolutely love your comparison to the borg, I remember being terrified of those things.

Well okay, in that regard the Holy Trinity is like the Borg.

[MindReality]

Originally Posted by Freelancer

Ps. I'm raised as a christian but the starting point has always been that I had to figure it out for myself. Right now I believe in a entity but I haven't figured out how the universe works yet (for me)...

You were raised a Christian? If you want to know how God and the Universe is like, read this article:

The Universal and Personal Aspect of God

The Universal Aspect of God is also what is known as Collective Consciousness.

The Personal Aspect of God is also what is know as The Holy Trinity.

[Freelancer]

Originally Posted by MindReality

You were raised a Christian? If you want to know how God and the Universe is like, read this article:

The Universal and Personal Aspect of God

The Universal Aspect of God is also what is known as Collective Consciousness.

The Personal Aspect of God is also what is know as The Holy Trinity.

I'll read this tomorrow, I cant really concentrate right now. You have to understand that although I was raised as a christian I don't necesarry believe in a omnipotent being or jezus as a son of god. Right now I believe (in very short words because I don't have a lot of time) that everything is energy and that mental energy can affect physical energy. How this fits in a world model I'm not sure yet. Note that I think jezus was a very good person that managed to transcend both mentally and physically and in turn affected the world deeply.

[MindReality]

Originally Posted by Freelancer

Right now I believe (in very short words because I don't have a lot of time) that everything is energy and that mental energy can affect physical energy. How this fits in a world model I'm not sure yet. Note that I think jezus was a very good person that managed to transcend both mentally and physically and in turn affected the world deeply.

If you want to know how energy and mind fits into the model of the universe, I encourage you to read my book "Mind Reality - The Universe Is Mental"

Sign up for my newsletter at my site and you can get it for free.

[Freelancer]

Originally Posted by MindReality

If you want to know how energy and mind fits into the model of the universe, I encourage you to read my book "Mind Reality - The Universe Is Mental"

Sign up for my newsletter at my site and you can get it for free.

I'll sign up for it today, I guess I have some reading to do.



Ps. Haven't read the article above yet.