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| We are created in the image of God. The God Self is our higher self. In order for us to relate to God, there has to be within each of us already a self concept which fits into God because it is in its shape or pattern, an incarnation of God’s inner nature. We cannot escape from God anywhere because we carry the divine essence within us. In the beginning was the one consciousness existing in the midst of nothingness. The one consciousness was not exactly a person. It was just pure consciousness which you could call God. The consciousness was LOVE, and Love had to be Expressed. So the consciousness differentiated into Three Persons. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The Father was the one who loves, the Son is the beloved, the Holy Spirit is the self-conscious spirit of that love. Hence the trinity is One God in Three Persons. Three divine persons of the same divine essence. They are One Being with three distinct personalities within itself. These three form the Godhead of the God Consciousness. We are all of the same divine essence which is Consciousness itself. Therefore we are all One Being with the trinity. You could say We Are All God. But within the one being, there are many personalities. The Person of God which is the Most High Personality is The WORD. It is the Consciousness back of The Word that projects The WORD. The WORD himself is in the Father, and the Holy Spirit is in The WORD. The trinity is the Divine Ego of God. It’s nature is perfect and complete. We are all God. The same unbounded potential of the infinite spirit also resides in each and every one of us. But we can only tap into the power of consciousness according to the level of awareness that we have. The trinity has the greatest level of awareness of all personalities within God, therefore the trinity has sovereign power. The trinity is the original and personal expression of God. God as a person is most glorious and worthy of praise and worship. Therefore God in the trinity, decided to create more personalities within itself to express praise and worship to God in the trinity. God was most glorious and therefore deserves to be glorified. For glory to be expressed, there needs to be a glorifier. Therefore God in the trinity created Angels to glorify God in the trinity. Angels are not sovereign like the trinity because sovereignty can only belong to one and only one. The trinity is one and therefore the trinity is sovereign. God in the trinity created the first personality apart from the trinity to glorify God in the trinity. That personality was called the Bearer of God’s Light. He was the first angel that came into being in heavenly Eden. Every precious stone was his covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold. He was the workmanship of God. He possessed all the musical instruments and was the master musician of heaven. He expressed the most glorious praise and worship to the Godhead and filled the heavens with the dance of light and sound. It was the most beautiful and awe inspiring spectacle to behold. God in the trinity created all the other angels as well and all of heaven was filled with their praise and worship which glorified God with the fullest expression. But there came a time when the Bearer of Light, Lucifer started to question the sovereignty of God in the trinity. Lucifer reasoned that it is the divine essence alone that is God and not the three persons who act as the Godhead. The divine essence is the one consciousness that everything exists from. Therefore he believes that he himself can become a divine person of God. This is the ultimate reasoning he used to persuaded a third of heaven’s angels in joining him to become sovereign. He claimed that they all have the right to be like the Most High. Lucifer questioned why is there a need to worship God if we ourselves are God. Lucifer believes that we ourselves are God and there is no other God besides us. He says that we create our own gods when we believe in a God apart from ourselves. That is why Lucifer is also called Belial, the one without a master. Lucifer became the opposition of God and was called Satan which means opposition and accuser. Satan represents Doubt. God did not want Adam and Eve to eat of the Tree of Good and Evil. It was Satan, the most intelligent created being, who stood up against God’s word by claiming it to be enforced ignorance. Satan tells mankind to search for knowledge, even in forbidden places. Scientists continuously test and refine their knowledge. Nothing is assumed to be true. Everything is tested, old theories are constantly retested whenever new knowledge comes to light. To be safe in knowledge and blissfully ignorant of doubt is an easy way out. A self failure. Satan and the curiosity and doubt he instills upon us is certainly the enemy of fundamentalism. This is both a good and a bad thing depending on the motive. Satan said let us test God’s word, let us not mindlessly believe all that God says. But there is a portion that we should test, and a portion that we should believe. Enlightenment is the ability to look past stated truth and dogma, and Lucifer represents our search for enlightenment. He was originally created to enlighten but he has corrupted his role. Lucifer has stolen ‘God’s’ power and reveals it to us as a new truth, that your consciousness is the light of your life. What Satan says is half true. Consciousness is the universal aspect of God but the trinity is the personal aspect of God. Satan has separated from the personal aspect and seeks only to unite with the universal aspect of God. He has corrupted his wisdom with his reasoning because his heart was no longer with the personal aspect of God, but was enraptured with his own glory, thinking himself to be as high as the trinity, and that true love can be experienced purely within the self. It is not enough to know that the Self Is God, but also to know that God is a Person who revealed himself in the Word of God. God is a Person we can have a Personal Relationship with. To know that he personally came to save us from condemnation of evil by taking our condemnation upon himself and gave us his righteousness as a gift. He also rose again from the dead so that we may forever stand justified in the eyes of The Father. There is no greater love than a man who would give his life for a friend. The trinity is God Most high and is worthy and deserving of all our praise and worship. We praise and worship God as a Person not because we have to, but because it is most joyful, wonderful and loving to do so. Salvation is in the end to become like God. Not just like the universal aspect but the personal aspect as well. To become like God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Self is God - Your Consciousness is Light of Life |
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| Wizards sixth rule, as cited from Terry Goodkinds book, Faith of The Fallen (A smashing read by a smashing author) is this: The only sovereign you can allow to rule you is reason. Whilst I enjoyed reading what you said, Mindreality, I just didn't....click with it. Its the main problem I have with Christianity (and all religions) this devotion to an external sovereign being (usually incomprehensible to mere mortals) and that happiness can only be achieved by surrendering to it...As soon as I see that alarm bells start going off so... So good post in my opinion, but its just not for me.
__________________ I dare do all that may become a man; Who dares do more is none. - MACBETH |
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We can choose to accept the Reason of The Lord or we can choose to reject it by reasoning apart from it. That is why Lucifer is the Anti-Christ, the Anti-Reason of The Lord. He reveals himself as the New Reason, the New Christ, New Logos, New Word, Higher Truth compared to Christianity. It is true that Reason is Sovereign. Choose the Reason of The Lord or the Reason of the Self. Either we acknowledge The Lord is sovereign or we do not. Why do we not believe The Word, Reason of The Lord? He is the Most High God. |
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| Logos is actually Greek for the Word (and by extension, Reason). Your initial post is a fine and courageous statement of your beliefs and I agree with all of it apart from where you say we are all God. I believe each of us has the potential to share in God's divinity, but at the moment we only have the seed of the spirit within us, which needs to grow and be nurtured. A person who equates himself with God is doing precisely what Satan did - thinking in his pride that he didn't need God and going out to create his own counterfeit kingdom. This is the fatal mistake a lot of people are making today, but believing you are God does not make you God. Only God is God. Lunatic asylums are full of people who think they are God! I know it's not pc to say this on a forum like this, where so many of us are riding on this new age wave, but if anyone thinks they are God, let them prove it by changing water into wine or raising the dead! |
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| @Mindreality Your assuming we all know God is all powerful and consciouslly choose to go against him. I however do not believe in God. I believe in the unviersal consciousness, source. But only insofar as i am an extension of that consciousness. God is not seperate, sentient or in any way "Alive" as you or I would percieve it. Please don't think I am attacking your beliefs. I respect them. But if you want to convince me God exists. You can't do it assuming I am aware of God.
__________________ I dare do all that may become a man; Who dares do more is none. - MACBETH |
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| The fruits of the Spirit are considered "spiritual" gifts from the ones with the Holy Spirit. By the Christian doctrine.If there is no fruits , probably the person don't has the baptism of fire. Others use the term energema and similar meanings ... |
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| Some people tend to use a very limited concept of God. What their are thinking? About a deity that can't see , listen or even abstract think !? The concept of a Universal Mind that goes against God (Or Christ) is exact the meaning of the Anti-Christ Mind and the Avatar of Falsehood (Devil) . Maybe the True nature of Reality would be englobed by the concept of Truth. Like there is a concept of Life! What you don't believe? In the concept of the Mind of Christ or the Anti-Christ? If this is above or below the concept of a Universal mind is another thing ... Sometimes , Jesus is called the Father of Eternity. There is some indices of the Verb (Maybe Logos?) being the creator of the Universe. Word of knowledge (sometimes called Science) and word of wisdom are considered gifts. Even if the original fruit of Science was forbidden for the humankind. |
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| Ok. Lets get this straight... <Rant> I DO NOT beleive in Christ, the Anti Christ, the God head, the Trinity, the Father of Eternity or Father Christmas OK? I have a very rational, experiencial belief system, not one founded on ignorant human fear. I am not even in your circle of beleif, you see this is why christians annoy me, they assume if your not with them, your against them. I am NOT Satan or his minion or his embodiment or Astaroth or Beilzebub or The Great Unclean One. I am just myself, I am not in the religion or of the religion. Stop talking like everyone is a part of the religion! </Rant>
__________________ I dare do all that may become a man; Who dares do more is none. - MACBETH Last edited by Akashic_Librarian : 04-30-2007 at 05:56 PM. |
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| I also don't disrespect christians or people of any other faith. But in my belief system, Lucifer does not exist, he is just a concept. Nor does the anti-christ - that is just a story made up by paranoid people afraid someone was going to take away their religion. |
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A personal God is a faith, so is universal source. Ideas that we can clinge to to have in our experience, if we so want to. A personal God sounds like something that is outside of me and it doesn't feel that way to me. God is inside of me, as far as I can tell. So is universal source - it wells up inside of me. Both are actually very personal. Quote:
I'm actually kind of ignorant about what Christians believe since I haven't tried to believe it myself. But wasn't one of Jesus's message that you can enter the kingdom of heaven now on earth with what you have - and actually that's where it is for real - in the Now? The whole idea of a heaven one has to wait for is overrated and breeds the idea that you can do anything bad and be forgiven. Mardi Gras? It's like God is set up to be someone you apologize to at the end of your life, instead of trying to do the better thing now. It's an old idea that was made by the church, not Jesus, to control people - to scare them into behaving and giving money. |
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