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Beliefs are the foundation for the Law of Attraction (LOA), but are also very personal. A person with the ability to manage their beliefs should excell with intention manifestation. The question that I'm posing is, what are some of the beliefs that you hold that either help or hinder your manifestations? Do you believe in the LOA (why/why not)?
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I definitely believe in the LOA. One belief I have that helps me a lot with manifesting what I want is that I liken this reality to a video game or a holodeck (ala Star Trek) and so can be easily programmed or re-programmed to provide me with what I ask for. In other words, if this reality is subjective and subject to my beliefs and interpretations, then I assume I can manipulate reality to get what I want. All I have to do is make a wish and be certain I really want it (i.e. become a vibrational match for it as Esther Hicks would say). Then I wait patiently for it to arrive in its own perfect way, in its own perfect time, for the highest good of all.
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Personally I think that my lack of belief in a higher power hinders any manifestations I may have. I struggle with the whole idea of energy in the universe, god, or anything outside of myself and believe that I can not control the actions of anyone else, so simply putting it out there and wanting it really bad won't make it happen. I do agree with the theory that if you want something really bad and focus on it, you are more likely to make the appropriate steps to get it, but does that fall under intention manifestation? Sorry if I sound completely novice here. I haven't been following this stuff nearly as long as all of you have. Adam has been making it a part of his daily life for a while now, but I didn't take a serious interest until I saw how much it was positively effecting his life, and my life along with his. Also, I have that whole distraction problem I talked about before. LOL.
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Hi Trina, The LOA is the only thing that Steve has written about that I haven't "enrolled" in as yet. But I'm keeping my ears and eyes open for signs that it is a least possible. It's a fairly large leap of faith in my eyes, and that's something I'm resistant to. Over time, I'm fairly certain that I'll give it a shot, and experiment with it, but right now, I'm not yet sold on the idea. As Steve explained it, he had the same experience with the law of attraction, in that it took some time before he took it on as a belief. Johnny |
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One thing that I would like to point out that I have noticed quite a bit is the use of (for lack of a better term) 'qualifying' phrases in Intentions. Erin unwittingly included an example, and I've seen many others. Wicca uses these as well while performing magick (yes, with a K), usually something similiar to "In perfect love and perfect trust." Christians often use a quote from Jesus while praying, such as "[Not my will, but]Thine be done." Here is Erin's example: Quote:
From a Subjective Reality perspective, though, this seems a little confusing. You are Consciousness, and if you believe something to be good, then it is good. Why would you ask for something that isn't good for everybody? The closest answer that I can find is that the ego, the perspective of being just one person, isn't able to figure out what would really be the greater good for all, so until an individual's level of consciousness approaches enlightenment, it is still the safest bet to include these 'qualifier' phrases. So, in addition to my questions above, for those who use qualifier statements, why do you use them, and which ones are your favorites? For those who don't, what is your reason?
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I don't use qualifiers because in regards to my personal beliefs it would feel inauthentic. I don't believe in a higher power, so I would personally feel like I wasn't taking responsibility for my own choices or taking the fact that I alone make my own choices seriously. I really don't know whether or not I would use them if I did believe in a higher power or not. I agree with you about ego. I wouldn't have been able to say it that eloquently though.
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I use the qualifier statement because of the Genie in the Bottle problem where making a wish that grants something wonderful to you causes pain and misery for someone else. For example, there was a story about a guy who came to this woman's house and told her that if she pushed this certain button it would kill someone she didn't know but she would get a million dollars. She agonizes over it but finally pushes the button. A man comes to her door and tells her her husband is dead and she is to inherit a 1 million dollar life insurance policy. She protests that she knew her husband, but the "genie" tells her she didn't really know him. Just a fictitious example, but similar to when you ask a Genie for a million dollars and he takes it out of the account of a bunch of people. For me, I don't want to gain something if it means taking something away from anyone else. Also I believe that sometimes we don't get what we ask for or what we think we want simply because there is another plan in store for us. For example, I know that if I was gifted with a million dollars one year ago that I would never have become a medium today becuase I never would have pushed myself. I believe that things we want come to us in their own perfect time and in their own perfect way for the highest good of all. So, in a nutshell, that's why I include the qualifier.
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Yes, I believe in the Law of Attraction. I've always had a fundamental beleif that all will be well, regardless of any blunders. I believe that things are always getting better. I don't know how I got like that, but I can't shake it! (Not that I'd want to.) I'm not worried about anything I don't know yet. I'm not worried about anything at all, really. I just look at or experience things, and smile with the satisfaction of knowing that things are only moving in one direction. And that direction is up! Last edited by A.K.Light; 11-03-2006 at 07:20 AM. |
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Erin, I have to agree with your post on a deep inner level, as much as I don't want to. You don't want to see getting picked on as a kid something that's good or for a reason. You don't want to see spending highschool weekends alone in your room as what you should be doing with your life. But years pass, and you see how these have benifited you, and at the time you wish for whatever better thing you want. But then you ask yourself, "if those things didn't happen, would I be who I am today? And if so, would I be hapy with that?". Of course my answer would be "sure, let those good things happen to me, but still be the person I am today". But that just isn't logical. I don't know how much I agree with the fact of destiny, but I know things happen for a reason, and wow, realization just this second, I think that the "reason" is a result of the LOA. If you're pumping out what you need to do for the LOA, the reason is what the true identity of what you're trying to attract. So if you get fired from a job, the reason for that could very well have something to do with what you're "sending out to the universe". What do you guys think of that? |
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When I first read what Steve wrote about it, I got pretty excited for one reason: it got him results. But I'm a very 'I'll see it when I believe it' kind of person, which made adopting the LOA beliefs difficult because LOA is 'You believe it, that's why you'll see it'. Reflecting on that though, I've realized that there were times when the LOA did work for me, even though there were times it didn't. I think the trick is to catch enough and focus on 'proof experiences' so that your limiting beliefs shift to enforce a positive LOA belief.
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The thing about the law of attraction is that it's always in effect, whether you're consciously using it for your benefit or not. Once I started paying attention, I started to realize that I was responsible for all sorts of things appearing in my life. Now all I have to do is start utilizing it to attract better things into my life, rather than things that maintain my status quo. It's kind of a scary thing to think about -- that you really have that much power over all those little "coincidences" that you normally take for granted! The talk about "greatest good" conditional statements reminded me of a Reiki story I recently read. A woman was worried about her husband, who was super stressed over his business. So without telling him, she sent him Reiki with the intention that he didn't stress so much. For two weeks, he tried to work but didn't really have much motivation -- he just wanted to go fishing. She realized it was her intention at fault. He needed some stress to motivate him to keep working. She retracted her intention and apologized, and he went into hyperdrive, getting more work done than he had in a month. Perhaps if she had let the Reiki flow without her intention over it, letting it reach him for his highest good, he would have found a better way to cope with the stress or reduce the reason for his stress -- curing the disease, per se, instead of simply treating the symptom. I don't know if that makes much sense -- but it's another example of how even a good intention can have negative results.
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I believe too strongly in objective reality to place much faith in the law of attraction. I'd like to change my belief because the law of attraction is certainly a more empowering belief, however I can't shake the feeling that I'm just trying to convince myself of something that isn't real. The one thing that I have gained from the law of attraction, without having to believe in it completely, is the understanding that focused awareness certainly does create a smoother path along the way to the destination. After stating goals as if they are completed in the present moment it has become easier for me to do the things I need to do, I more readily notice things that will assist me, and I communicate my desires more effectively. However I don't feel any need to attribute all that to anything beyond my own conscious (and subconscious) efforts. |
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I don't believe that things happen for a reason. I believe that good and bad come out of everything, and people (generally speaking) focus on the good things so that the bad experiences aren't in vain. Does that make sense? For instance, my mom did drugs when I was younger. Because of that my sister and I were raised by my grandparents instead of her, and because we were raised by my grandparents we were raised in a very stable and loving home and also have serious abandonment and anger issues when it comes to my mom. I don't think that the reason any of that happened was specifically so that my sister and I would be raised how we were anymore than I think things happened that way specifically so that we would also have abandonment issues and have to deal with our anger towards her for not being there. What I do think is that we both want to be happy, and focusing on the good that came out of it instead of the bad let's us find happiness. What I don't know is whether or not how I see my experiences results in my lack of belief in a higher power, or if my lack of belief in a higher power is what interprets how I view my experiences (did that even make sense?). LOL. And even more importantly, do any of my thoughts that I just typed out have a single thing to do with the LOA?
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after i read steves blog personal subjective reality model i was really challenged by it and i tried to understand it from my unchanged paradigm of separate identity. but then i rememebred that its best to try the model frist hand or other wise i risked looking through a clored vision. but anyhow this is what i found. for instance one of my best friends was having a hard time finding a job and i really wanted one for her and was looking for opportunities for her. but after deciding to practice the personal subjective reality model, i asked myself, in what part of my consciousness am i not allowing her to have a job. so i honestly answered myself that i really in my heart didnt think she was that qualified for the types of jobs she wanted. so i worked on that assumption and everytime that negative thought crossed my mind i would replace it with an intention i had for her. she would find more than one job in the next few weeks. anyhow to make the long story short she did find one job and hand a very good interview with another.... i am intending that she would get it. this is one of the many other examples i can tell you about... but intention manifestation is nothing extremely bizzar. its in the deep knowing that what you ask for will be manifested. but i have to admit, its easier to manifest for others than it is for myself... i think i have too much conflicting emotions inside me when it comes to myself.....
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In my life there are days when i feel kind of strange, with little or no motivation at all, unhappy... And when I walk down the street i have some weird feeling that everybody is watching me. Then I think that probably i'm looking horrible because of my state and people can see it. After a while i figured it out that people watch you only if you look at them first. If you don't look at them at all they will probably give you just one shy look and keep walking. On the other side when i feel happy and walk on the same street i see happy people around me. If i smile other people smile too. and that's not just a phrase. Try it out for yourself few times. It is really working. IMO, that is LOA, when you feel happy you see and attract happiness and when you're strange you see weirdness all around you |
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I've believed in LOA for a while now, but at first it was only because of the little things that would happen to me - I would write about wanting something in my morning pages and often it would happen, sometimes quite soon. I found this happened a lot especially when it came to money - as a freelancer, there used to be a time when I'd have outstanding invoices but no idea when they'd get paid, and there was the mortgage, due tomorrow. And almost always, a cheque would come in, just in time. But around this time last year, because of some contrasts I was facing, it suddenly dawned on me that LOA was a 24/7 thing. I had been "using" it to try and attract specific things into my life, but for me the real key was realizing that it happens whether or not you believe, whether or not you try to "work it" - and for me LOA hinges on how I'm feeling. When I feel good, I let go of my resistance, and that's been key for me. It's always iffy when I try to control how a particular condition or situation turns out, but I can always control how I feel. And so I always try now to be aware of how I'm feeling, and that's been huge for me. Sometimes I have to remind myself that feeling bad doesn't solve a situation, but feeling good always results in me feeling much better, and then LOA kicks in and the situation may not be solved but it often |
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In the teachings I follow the qualifier is akin to: "Of myself I can do nothing" or "Not mine, but thine". Great question BTW, really got me thinking. The following is my beliefs, "Of myself I can do nothing" is a recognition that all things are a part of universal or superconciousness, that One Will drives the world. In manifesting we utilise our specialised self conciousness, our will, to shape subconciousness to achieve our aims. Will in this context does not mean mental force or power, it means desire. Our desires manifest as we ask. The qualifier recognizes that we are all a part of the one will, the desire of life, on all levels. Our desire is an expression of that. Quoting "Of myself I can do nothing" connects me to all of life. Recognition of our true desires, rather than what we think we need to get what we want, brings us closer to our true will, our true selves, the one self It's about being recptive to the one will on a self concious level. I hope that made sense to you all, to me it seems close to Steve and Erin's subjective reality model. I'm not trying to be preachie, these are my beliefs if don't like them that's ok with me
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But this year, various building laws have changed, and it turned out we had to hire an architect and get plans drawn up. We called around, found someone, and he quoted us $2,000. This was $2000 more than we expected to have to pay, since we'd never had to get actual drawings done before, but a friend of ours asked the architects that his company used, and they gave him a quote of $9000, so we thought, okay, this is a good deal. Well, as it turned out, it was a misunderstanding. The $2K was the architect's fee, but there was another $4K for the other professionals involved - the engineers and HVAC people. This really floored us, because this was much more than we were expecting to pay. Plus we had negotiated with the landlord to cover $1K of this cost, thinking that he would be paying half. So we sat down, and I said, okay, let's not struggle upstream - this is Abraham-Hicks' latest analogy, that we're all trained to struggle upstream when what we want is downstream, and all we have to do is drop the oars. So we dropped the oars. We consciously let go of our feelings of being ripped off. We deliberately thought about other things that didn't make us feel bad. Then it dawned on us to really take a look at how much this move was going to cost us. We sat down, and threw in every single cost we could think of. We looked at that number, and realized we had been intending to cover that cost in our "old way" - which would have been to use our savings, every last bit of personal credit plus whatever new personal credit we could get. I looked at those figures and I said, "we should go to the bank. We'll get financing. Somehow or other, we'll get it". The thing is, though, we'd just gone through a refinancing round for the company in the spring, and it wasn't like our numbers had improved drastically to justify more financing. But we went to the bank anyway. And our banker wasn't very positive. Our numbers just didn't warrant an additional loan. She also said, I don't think you'll qualify for any of the government-backed loans. Even with all of this, though, we were feeling good - because every time we looked at the misunderstanding with the architect, we would think, "yes, but that lead us to sit down and really see how things are". And we figured if the bank didn't come through, we'd find another source of financing. That very afternoon, our banker called. We got the exact amount we had requested, plus it was government-backed. And that definitely felt good. We've actually had a lot of ups and downs with this whole move - a lot of it, I think, comes from this feeling that my husband keeps having that the landlord didn't want to pay for anything to get the unit up to code. Which has been exactly what we've been experiencing (LOA in action!). But each time we've faced this type of contrast, we've dropped the oars, moved to a better feeling thought, and something better has emerged, something that we wouldn't have thought of before. This has happened with the financing, and also we actually now have a much better layout than we'd originally envisioned, because of another bit of contrast that happened. We're still not in yet, but we're expecting the building permit to be approved this week and then it's a go. | |
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That's a great story Belle! Some time ago I set out to attract $1 million. I had used similar principles to attract a couple of buyers for a truck that didn't look like it was going to sell at our asking price and some other "minor" things. I guess I had the feeling that it would happen "someday." As it turns out, it happened this past week, though I can't spend any of the $4 million because it came in the form of a savings to someone else from advice that I gave. This is a great event because it's really making me look closer at the LOA and how feelings, attitude, and deep-seated beliefs interact with LOA, and is making me look closer at this idea that we are all connected. (In a way, that's more valuable to me than the money.) The reason I asked for a specific example of how your feelings interact with LOA is that I'm starting to see these things now myself, and wanted a little more insight into how LOA works. |
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I do believe in LOA, but it's taken me some time. Being a software engineer it has been hard to get away from the logical, linear, analytical, non-religious/non-spiritual perspectives at looking at the universe. I have read dozens of self-help type books over the the years (Anthony Robbins, Napoleon Hill, Deepak Chopra, Richard Carlson, etc.) but didn't really get it until reading Steve Pavlina's blog and then reading Abraham-Hicks, Seth books, and other similar books, and watching What the Bleep - Down the Rabbit Hole. Now I get it and have been working to change my attitudes, intentions and feelings to align with LOA. I've kind of believed it for a long time - about 10 years ago I was working at Intel and a loud voice I didn't recognize told me that I needed to quit my job. I then argued and rationalized in my conscious mind convincing myself that quitting was crazy and stupid - I had just bought a house and new job prospects in the city where I lived were not good. Then a month later my manager told me that although I was doing a great job I didn't fit in and needed to "keep my options open." I quit a couple months later, took several months off from working, moved to another city, where I found my wonderful wife, doubled my salary, made several new great friends, etc. That voice I heard is one I won't forget and when I look back at my life and can find other times when I followed my intuition and things worked out well. Also, looking back I can kind of see where the LOA was always working in my life even though I wasn't really aware of it. The more I study the LOA the more I really do believe it is active.
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The law of attraction and intention manifestation sounds too much like wishful thinking. While I believe it's obvious that your thoughts affect your actions and then in turn affect the way you interpret the results of those actions, for your thoughts to actually create your reality without you having to act sounds too new agey and implausible.
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What if rather than intending for the future we unveiled the truth of the now. I find that no matter how convincenly we say "I am......." as we extend the present to what we want, that our hearts and souls always no the truth even if we don't. What if the secret was revealing the true who of you rather than manifesting the how you desire? Wonderfully we have all that we already desire. We just have to becoame aware of it. The universe is not random and neither are we. I think we make intending too difficult. It should flow organically from your specific design. |
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It seems to me that many LOA gurus proclaim that to harness the power of LOA, you need to first raise your consciousness/awareness. I.e., the higher your awareness and connection to source consciousness (enlightenment), the stronger your powers of manifestation will be. I'm pretty sure I agree with this. This is also the reason why I think many people have trouble manifesting the things they think they want. If your ego is running the show and you think you want money, houses, status, etc... to feed that ego, your connection to source consciousness won't be strong enough to achieve it. Which, or course, is a paradox. You can get anything you want as long as you don't want it anymore. Of course, there appear to be tons of ego-driven, fear-based people on this planet who live in complete luxury, so maybe not. Steve's polarity theory makes sense in that case. If you're going to be fear-based, be fear-based with pride |
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I have been vigilant in my awareness of my intentions and my focus, but absolutely nothing turns out as planned. It's always a 'what the?' However, I do not believe it is not working but is working differently to expected. I think I am causing one thing in awareness but neiher the effect or consequence are in harmony. I don't know where I am going with this because it sends me into a spin and I don't seem to have control over it. I think I have hidden depths that are being mirrored to me in my experiences but I can't see them. Does anyone relate? I truly believe at this stage that everything within my experence is replicated from everything I am. This means I can't blame anyone else. Bugar! |
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