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Old 11-02-2006, 06:53 PM
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Beliefs are the foundation for the Law of Attraction (LOA), but are also very personal. A person with the ability to manage their beliefs should excell with intention manifestation. The question that I'm posing is, what are some of the beliefs that you hold that either help or hinder your manifestations? Do you believe in the LOA (why/why not)?
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I definitely believe in the LOA. One belief I have that helps me a lot with manifesting what I want is that I liken this reality to a video game or a holodeck (ala Star Trek) and so can be easily programmed or re-programmed to provide me with what I ask for. In other words, if this reality is subjective and subject to my beliefs and interpretations, then I assume I can manipulate reality to get what I want. All I have to do is make a wish and be certain I really want it (i.e. become a vibrational match for it as Esther Hicks would say). Then I wait patiently for it to arrive in its own perfect way, in its own perfect time, for the highest good of all.
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Personally I think that my lack of belief in a higher power hinders any manifestations I may have. I struggle with the whole idea of energy in the universe, god, or anything outside of myself and believe that I can not control the actions of anyone else, so simply putting it out there and wanting it really bad won't make it happen. I do agree with the theory that if you want something really bad and focus on it, you are more likely to make the appropriate steps to get it, but does that fall under intention manifestation?

Sorry if I sound completely novice here. I haven't been following this stuff nearly as long as all of you have. Adam has been making it a part of his daily life for a while now, but I didn't take a serious interest until I saw how much it was positively effecting his life, and my life along with his. Also, I have that whole distraction problem I talked about before. LOL.
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Hi Trina,

The LOA is the only thing that Steve has written about that I haven't "enrolled" in as yet.

But I'm keeping my ears and eyes open for signs that it is a least possible.

It's a fairly large leap of faith in my eyes, and that's something I'm resistant to.

Over time, I'm fairly certain that I'll give it a shot, and experiment with it, but right now, I'm not yet sold on the idea. As Steve explained it, he had the same experience with the law of attraction, in that it took some time before he took it on as a belief.



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One thing that I would like to point out that I have noticed quite a bit is the use of (for lack of a better term) 'qualifying' phrases in Intentions. Erin unwittingly included an example, and I've seen many others. Wicca uses these as well while performing magick (yes, with a K), usually something similiar to "In perfect love and perfect trust." Christians often use a quote from Jesus while praying, such as "[Not my will, but]Thine be done." Here is Erin's example:

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in its own perfect way, in its own perfect time, for the highest good of all.
I have often wondered, what is the exact belief behind these phrases? In a religious sense where individuals can make selfish requests that don't follow the will of their deities, this is a good clause to add. It helps to ensure that if the request isn't the 'right' thing to ask for, then it won't be fulfilled for whatever reason. If a person believes that the LOA works because their sub-conscious pushes you towards it, then it also allows your sub-conscious a way to decide if what you are asking for is really a good thing or not, rather than having to blindly follow your request.

From a Subjective Reality perspective, though, this seems a little confusing. You are Consciousness, and if you believe something to be good, then it is good. Why would you ask for something that isn't good for everybody?

The closest answer that I can find is that the ego, the perspective of being just one person, isn't able to figure out what would really be the greater good for all, so until an individual's level of consciousness approaches enlightenment, it is still the safest bet to include these 'qualifier' phrases.

So, in addition to my questions above, for those who use qualifier statements, why do you use them, and which ones are your favorites? For those who don't, what is your reason?
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I don't use qualifiers because in regards to my personal beliefs it would feel inauthentic. I don't believe in a higher power, so I would personally feel like I wasn't taking responsibility for my own choices or taking the fact that I alone make my own choices seriously. I really don't know whether or not I would use them if I did believe in a higher power or not.

I agree with you about ego. I wouldn't have been able to say it that eloquently though.
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I use the qualifier statement because of the Genie in the Bottle problem where making a wish that grants something wonderful to you causes pain and misery for someone else.

For example, there was a story about a guy who came to this woman's house and told her that if she pushed this certain button it would kill someone she didn't know but she would get a million dollars. She agonizes over it but finally pushes the button. A man comes to her door and tells her her husband is dead and she is to inherit a 1 million dollar life insurance policy. She protests that she knew her husband, but the "genie" tells her she didn't really know him.

Just a fictitious example, but similar to when you ask a Genie for a million dollars and he takes it out of the account of a bunch of people.

For me, I don't want to gain something if it means taking something away from anyone else.

Also I believe that sometimes we don't get what we ask for or what we think we want simply because there is another plan in store for us. For example, I know that if I was gifted with a million dollars one year ago that I would never have become a medium today becuase I never would have pushed myself. I believe that things we want come to us in their own perfect time and in their own perfect way for the highest good of all.

So, in a nutshell, that's why I include the qualifier.
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Yes, I believe in the Law of Attraction. I've always had a fundamental beleif that all will be well, regardless of any blunders. I believe that things are always getting better. I don't know how I got like that, but I can't shake it! (Not that I'd want to.)

I'm not worried about anything I don't know yet. I'm not worried about anything at all, really. I just look at or experience things, and smile with the satisfaction of knowing that things are only moving in one direction. And that direction is up!

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Erin, I have to agree with your post on a deep inner level, as much as I don't want to.

You don't want to see getting picked on as a kid something that's good or for a reason. You don't want to see spending highschool weekends alone in your room as what you should be doing with your life. But years pass, and you see how these have benifited you, and at the time you wish for whatever better thing you want. But then you ask yourself, "if those things didn't happen, would I be who I am today? And if so, would I be hapy with that?".

Of course my answer would be "sure, let those good things happen to me, but still be the person I am today". But that just isn't logical.

I don't know how much I agree with the fact of destiny, but I know things happen for a reason, and wow, realization just this second, I think that the "reason" is a result of the LOA. If you're pumping out what you need to do for the LOA, the reason is what the true identity of what you're trying to attract. So if you get fired from a job, the reason for that could very well have something to do with what you're "sending out to the universe".

What do you guys think of that?
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I definitely believe in the LOA. One belief I have that helps me a lot with manifesting what I want is that I liken this reality to a video game or a holodeck (ala Star Trek) and so can be easily programmed or re-programmed to provide me with what I ask for. In other words, if this reality is subjective and subject to my beliefs and interpretations, then I assume I can manipulate reality to get what I want. All I have to do is make a wish and be certain I really want it (i.e. become a vibrational match for it as Esther Hicks would say). Then I wait patiently for it to arrive in its own perfect way, in its own perfect time, for the highest good of all.
I think that's a wonderful metaphor for explaining the LOA.

When I first read what Steve wrote about it, I got pretty excited for one reason: it got him results.

But I'm a very 'I'll see it when I believe it' kind of person, which made adopting the LOA beliefs difficult because LOA is 'You believe it, that's why you'll see it'.

Reflecting on that though, I've realized that there were times when the LOA did work for me, even though there were times it didn't.

I think the trick is to catch enough and focus on 'proof experiences' so that your limiting beliefs shift to enforce a positive LOA belief.
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The thing about the law of attraction is that it's always in effect, whether you're consciously using it for your benefit or not. Once I started paying attention, I started to realize that I was responsible for all sorts of things appearing in my life. Now all I have to do is start utilizing it to attract better things into my life, rather than things that maintain my status quo. It's kind of a scary thing to think about -- that you really have that much power over all those little "coincidences" that you normally take for granted!

The talk about "greatest good" conditional statements reminded me of a Reiki story I recently read. A woman was worried about her husband, who was super stressed over his business. So without telling him, she sent him Reiki with the intention that he didn't stress so much. For two weeks, he tried to work but didn't really have much motivation -- he just wanted to go fishing. She realized it was her intention at fault. He needed some stress to motivate him to keep working. She retracted her intention and apologized, and he went into hyperdrive, getting more work done than he had in a month. Perhaps if she had let the Reiki flow without her intention over it, letting it reach him for his highest good, he would have found a better way to cope with the stress or reduce the reason for his stress -- curing the disease, per se, instead of simply treating the symptom.

I don't know if that makes much sense -- but it's another example of how even a good intention can have negative results.
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I believe too strongly in objective reality to place much faith in the law of attraction. I'd like to change my belief because the law of attraction is certainly a more empowering belief, however I can't shake the feeling that I'm just trying to convince myself of something that isn't real.

The one thing that I have gained from the law of attraction, without having to believe in it completely, is the understanding that focused awareness certainly does create a smoother path along the way to the destination. After stating goals as if they are completed in the present moment it has become easier for me to do the things I need to do, I more readily notice things that will assist me, and I communicate my desires more effectively. However I don't feel any need to attribute all that to anything beyond my own conscious (and subconscious) efforts.
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I don't know how much I agree with the fact of destiny, but I know things happen for a reason, and wow, realization just this second, I think that the "reason" is a result of the LOA.
Okay, I am still struggling with understanding the whole LOA thing, but something did come to mind when I read this so I will share it.

I don't believe that things happen for a reason. I believe that good and bad come out of everything, and people (generally speaking) focus on the good things so that the bad experiences aren't in vain. Does that make sense? For instance, my mom did drugs when I was younger. Because of that my sister and I were raised by my grandparents instead of her, and because we were raised by my grandparents we were raised in a very stable and loving home and also have serious abandonment and anger issues when it comes to my mom. I don't think that the reason any of that happened was specifically so that my sister and I would be raised how we were anymore than I think things happened that way specifically so that we would also have abandonment issues and have to deal with our anger towards her for not being there. What I do think is that we both want to be happy, and focusing on the good that came out of it instead of the bad let's us find happiness.

What I don't know is whether or not how I see my experiences results in my lack of belief in a higher power, or if my lack of belief in a higher power is what interprets how I view my experiences (did that even make sense?). LOL. And even more importantly, do any of my thoughts that I just typed out have a single thing to do with the LOA?
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The question that I'm posing is, what are some of the beliefs that you hold that either help or hinder your manifestations? Do you believe in the LOA (why/why not)?
I'm a Christian so... LOA is pretty much included... is formulated a little bit different... and it does not concerns itself with the mechanics (vibration and such)...but Christ said it clear:
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7"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.

9"Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
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"I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."
so... there you have it...
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Lightbulb its related with the subjective reality model

after i read steves blog personal subjective reality model i was really challenged by it and i tried to understand it from my unchanged paradigm of separate identity. but then i rememebred that its best to try the model frist hand or other wise i risked looking through a clored vision. but anyhow this is what i found. for instance one of my best friends was having a hard time finding a job and i really wanted one for her and was looking for opportunities for her. but after deciding to practice the personal subjective reality model, i asked myself, in what part of my consciousness am i not allowing her to have a job. so i honestly answered myself that i really in my heart didnt think she was that qualified for the types of jobs she wanted. so i worked on that assumption and everytime that negative thought crossed my mind i would replace it with an intention i had for her. she would find more than one job in the next few weeks. anyhow to make the long story short she did find one job and hand a very good interview with another.... i am intending that she would get it. this is one of the many other examples i can tell you about... but intention manifestation is nothing extremely bizzar. its in the deep knowing that what you ask for will be manifested. but i have to admit, its easier to manifest for others than it is for myself... i think i have too much conflicting emotions inside me when it comes to myself.....
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intention manifestation is nothing extremely bizzar. its in the deep knowing that what you ask for will be manifested. but i have to admit, its easier to manifest for others than it is for myself... i think i have too much conflicting emotions inside me when it comes to myself.....
Do you think that perhaps by harbouring that thought (which, if you follow the Law of Attraction/Subjective reality model, is in itself an intention) you are creating that experience for yourself?

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Do you think that perhaps by harbouring that thought (which, if you follow the Law of Attraction/Subjective reality model, is in itself an intention) you are creating that experience for yourself?

Food for thought.
you are right of course. the immediate answer that came to my mind was, "well the confusion part is about what i really want for myself. i am not quiet sure if it will lead me where i want to go" but then i asked myself the question you asked me and what if i am creating the reality of not know what i really want and the doubt that what i really want might not take me where i want to go? so do i just believe in one 'want" and see where it takes me... ie to avaoid craeting a conflicting reality?
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Do you think that perhaps by harbouring that thought (which, if you follow the Law of Attraction/Subjective reality model, is in itself an intention) you are creating that experience for yourself?

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you are right of course. the immediate answer that came to my mind was, "well the confusion part is about what i really want for myself. i am not quiet sure if it will lead me where i want to go" but then i asked myself the question you asked me and...
Damn, my post didn’t have the enlightening “ah ha!” effect I was hoping it would.

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[W]hat if i am creating the reality of not know[ing] what i really want and the[n] [doubting that] what i really want might not take me where i want to go? do i just believe in one 'want" and see where it takes me... ie to [avoid] [creating] a conflicting reality?
In response to your question I wish to quote an answer Steve gave in an interview he had with BipolarNation.com. Steve was asked “In your experience, what is the most effective way of getting something to ‘manifest’ in your life?” This was his response:

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Once you put out your intention, which means you’ve clearly articulated exactly what you want, the next step is to get yourself to fully resonate with that intention. This means eliminating any blocks that would otherwise get in the way. Those blocks are other thoughts you hold that are incongruent with your primary intention.

Every thought is an intention. This includes your perceptions and your memories. So the key to manifesting what you want is to get your whole being aligned with your new intention. This means identifying blocks and working through them one by one.

Here’s how to do that: Imagine your goal is already here. Suppose you’ve successfully achieved it right now. Imagine it as vividly as possible, and put yourself in that moment. Then consider all the rippling consequences that change will have throughout your life. How will it affect your self-image, your relationships, your career, etc? You’ll soon realize that there are some consequences you don’t feel good about. Your challenge is to work through those blocks and resolve them.

For example, suppose your goal is to lose weight, and you imagine yourself being fit and thin. You realize that when you achieve this goal, people will give you more positive attention, and this makes you uncomfortable. If you want your desire to manifest, you’ll need to work through that discomfort and resolve it. Otherwise you’ll remain incongruent, and you’ll block your intention from manifesting.

You’ll find that even the most seemingly positive intentions can be blocked by secondary negative thoughts. At first glance the intention looks great, but when you imagine it as real right now, you suddenly realize there will be some unwanted side effects.

I usually work through these blocks in my journal. Sometimes it’s just a matter of shifting my perspective. Other times I realize the side effect is so undesirable that I have to re-formulate the original intention to avoid it. There’s no right or wrong way to work through these blocks. It’s largely a process of getting clear about exactly what it is you want. Your primary intention opens the door, but once you step into through that door and look around, you have to reach the point of being able to accept and desire the whole package.

When you reach the point of feeling totally congruent about your intention, it will manifest easily and rapidly. This, however, is the real challenge of intention-manifestation.
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In my life there are days when i feel kind of strange, with little or no motivation at all, unhappy... And when I walk down the street i have some weird feeling that everybody is watching me. Then I think that probably i'm looking horrible because of my state and people can see it. After a while i figured it out that people watch you only if you look at them first. If you don't look at them at all they will probably give you just one shy look and keep walking.
On the other side when i feel happy and walk on the same street i see happy people around me. If i smile other people smile too. and that's not just a phrase. Try it out for yourself few times. It is really working.
IMO, that is LOA, when you feel happy you see and attract happiness and when you're strange you see weirdness all around you
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