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yobobby · 06-14-2008, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pegasus

Most of these are symptoms of depression...

They are if your not feeling happy. All of this is happening to me now in the past 4 yrs,but Im also happy. Im quite content. I had depression about 6 years ago,but I wasnt happy,not ever,I was miserable. There is a difference.

Captain Cloudchaser · 06-15-2008, 04:18 AM

Well this is odd. I've had symptoms like that my entire life, but attributed it to depression. The depression lasted a good few years, I tried everything to 'fix' it, thought something was wrong with me, but it wasn't something to be cured. I grew out of it, you could say.. I started accepting my personality as just me, and not as wrong; I'm an introverted feeler, so I had a few people in my life tell me I was wrong, took a while to come to terms with that.

But, that last one, feeling like I want to go home, it strikes a powerful chord. I'm constantly feeling disconnected from the world, the universe, other people, totally alienated, and I have this incredible longing to go home, to return to a place that isn't here. I had this longing before I even started reading up on topics like reincarnation etc. It felt like I wanted the earth to absorb my body and take me whole, or for the skies to sweep me away. When I'm alone with nature or staring at the sky I feel the same way.

I wouldn't say I have started a spiritual journey. I've read things, I've become more aware of myself, but I don't meditate or anything like that. I think I'm secretly scared of it, because I can't bring myself to try it. Opportunities like free classes present themselves, but I just don't go. To be honest, they make me feel silly!

dali · 06-21-2008, 08:59 AM

I must have led myself to join this forum right enough ! great to be in the company of a whole lot of people who are going through the same as me. problem is how long does it last? mines been going on quite a while. It shall pass... maybe thats all I need to know. Thanks very much for enlightening post. I guess it IS a pregnancy. One that all genders can experience!Maybe i am giving birth to an elephant. Nothing would shock me....

eskimo · 08-21-2008, 04:57 AM

It's great to see that there are others on this board experiencing or have experienced the awakening as well. I'm currently going through it and I'm very familiar with the 12 signs from Geoffrey Hoppe / Tobias that the OP posted. It's been a trying journey for the past year but I now feel closer to God than I have ever felt and it feels great!

Here's another link to a site that details a few more signs related to spiritual awakening: Symptoms. This may help clarify it for those of you who may be confusing it with depression.

Also, you may be interested to know that I belive the same phenomenon is referred to as a Kundalini awakening in the Hindu tradition.

Steve

carenkh · 08-21-2008, 05:19 AM

Thanks for reviving this thread, Steve!

I really, really needed to read this.

One thing I learned through my pregnancies and having homebirths, is that transition is THE most difficult time of birth. In labor, transition is the time between active labor and the need to push, and it's the time most women absolutely feel they can't do it, they MUST have medication, there's NO WAY they can go on. But, with support and lots of love, no medication is needed, transition time passes, pushing begins, and the baby comes!

I was amazed when I learned that, because I thought: that's life, too - transition's the hardest time. But if you can hang in there, there will be this whole new life, right in front of you!

I had forgotten all about that. Transition. Birth. Awakening.

Here's to honoring where I am on the path!

frajilthunder · 08-22-2008, 06:22 PM

I've noticed all last week that it hurts to pee. Could this be a symptom of my awakening divinity?

Anagogy · 08-23-2008, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by frajilthunder

I've noticed all last week that it hurts to pee. Could this be a symptom of my awakening divinity?

That.......................................or a bladder infection.

carenkh · 08-23-2008, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frajilthunder

I've noticed all last week that it hurts to pee. Could this be a symptom of my awakening divinity?

Are you "pissed off" at someone, or angry in general? If you haven't found a way to express that in alignment with who you are, a urinary infection or other troubles can result.

Everything can help you awaken your divinity, even if it's not a direct symptom of same.

Ecce Homo · 08-23-2008, 02:37 PM

I found CFP's original post to be interesting and useful. Thanks for sharing and thanks eskimo and carenkh for bumping it! I don't think I'd have read it otherwise.

Liara Covert · 08-23-2008, 02:55 PM

Many books and other materials refer to descriptions of self-awakenings. In my mind, this is a very subjective experience that defies words except only so far as you make comparisons to the familliar. When you are dealing with the unfamiliar, words and coomparisons do not do experiences justice.

Maguru · 08-23-2008, 10:43 PM

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knowing that is simply your own growth and enlightenment

This conclusion sounds all very well and good, BUT what does it look like this growth and enlightenment? How does it affect the human experience? Is there evidence other than the spoken words of 'so called wisdom'?

Dave Kaminski · 08-24-2008, 04:36 AM

Those sound like what happens when you join a cult :P

mark7 · 08-25-2008, 01:57 AM

this is me and my life for the past 3 years down to a T,
i went so far as to pack in a $90,000 a year job, to do care work for elderly and disabled people, earning $22,000 a year,
im much happier in my self now, and get alot from my work, but still have this great sense of sadness that the bulk of people in the world are going or being intentionally manovered down the wrong path,
took me along time to get a handle on this till my G/F sat down with me and said,
"mark, you cant change the world all on your own"
people have to make there own mistakes and learn from them.

TIK · 08-25-2008, 02:28 AM

Hi Crissy,

I had started to experience the things you had described about 2 years ago. Part of it was anxiety and depression, but as I began to work on my own spirituality, these things came and went.

A few months ago, I had neck pain so severe that I could not even move my head more than a couple of degrees to the right or left. Extremely painfull sessions of massage therapy was the only way to deal with it. Still get pains every so often as my spiritual growth continues.

I had no idea that this could be related to changing of the spiritual DNA.

Thanks for sharing this information. I agree that it can help a lot of people.

TIK

TIK · 08-25-2008, 02:39 AM

Hi,

I used to think meditation was wierd and would not go near it. Then I tried it and learned a lot of interesting skills. I have been at if for a couple years now and I think it has helped me to grow.

Sometimes I struggle because it is a growth process. If you join a good school you will find nice and supportive people with whom you will grow.

Its not always easy, but it is a means of growing. Again, it is not the only way. There are a lot of ways to travel. Meditation is one of many ways. But it may be that these opportunities have presented themself to you for a reason... Just a thought...

TIK

truthbebold · 10-14-2011, 01:14 AM

I can strongly relate to symptoms 8,11 & 12

physical disorientation: Ive been feeling like I have a foot on earth and the other is where my soul will head after physical death .. this feeling been there for 4-5 years

dispassion: I dropped outta college because my motivation & interest in what I was studying kept decreasing as the years went by. luckily, studying psychology opened a door to an interest in spirituality (the real deal)

the desire to go home: it's become overwhelming lately

I don't feel like I'm suffering, it's just it's hard to go through life feeling 'blah' about a lot of things

truthbebold · 10-14-2011, 01:44 AM

it also feels like life has become timeless & meaningless

my question to those who have been there:

are we truly able to reconnect to people, to the physical realm ?
do we grow out of the lack of passion thing ?

ButterflyWoman · 10-14-2011, 04:56 AM

Gosh. Old thread. Still, I'll play.

Quote:

Originally Posted by truthbebold

are we truly able to reconnect to people, to the physical realm ?

Yes, eventually. But it has a completely different form and character than before.

Quote:

Originally Posted by truthbebold

do we grow out of the lack of passion thing ?

More or less, but perspective shifts so drastically that "passion" (as well as other emotions, thoughts, beliefs, etc.) are seen in a very different light to how they were prior to the shift. This is extremely difficult to articulate. Short answer: yes, but with qualifiers.

ChrisGinsburg · 10-14-2011, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truthbebold

it also feels like life has become timeless & meaningless

my question to those who have been there:

are we truly able to reconnect to people, to the physical realm ?
do we grow out of the lack of passion thing ?

If you could notice that you were not separate from others, where would the need to reconnect with them come from?

Does passion or interests ever truly leave or do they simply change course? Can it seem to disappear if one refuses to let go of old passions and beliefs?

nothuman · 10-14-2011, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truthbebold

it also feels like life has become timeless & meaningless

my question to those who have been there:

are we truly able to reconnect to people, to the physical realm ?
do we grow out of the lack of passion thing ?

Wow ... you've been reading my mail. Timeless and meaningless sounds like you are describing groundlessness to me. A state of being once illusions have been kicked out from under you. The word I get is to embrace this state and make it your new abode rather than creating more illusions. It can feel cold and barren at first as you now don't have an illusion based comfort zone to kick back into.

The nonconnection thingy is what is left after old egoic cords are severed . It leaves you in a state of dettachment. Existing or new relationships can be created with new foundations that are in line with your new way of being.

Maybe this is you....it sure as heck is me....

isandesh · 10-19-2011, 08:36 PM

I have all these symptoms. except for sleep 2:00 am thing cause i work at night. but i do have unusual sleep patterns and i am suffering from insomnia. This list is perfect!.

isandesh · 10-19-2011, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yossarian

Ouch.

Talk about having someone pegged, this thing nails me to a freakin dart board, on the 20 point triple score.

I just hope it's right

I want to believe

blessed be · 11-08-2011, 12:24 AM

I can certainly vouch for neck pain right now and have just had a strange experience. Also had a headache I naturally interpreted earlier today as something big happening tonight. Could not have foreseen this but the warning was appreciated -

'scrary' stuf with meditation

08-25-2008, 02:39 AM	#75 (permalink)
TIK Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 16	Hi, I used to think meditation was wierd and would not go near it. Then I tried it and learned a lot of interesting skills. I have been at if for a couple years now and I think it has helped me to grow. Sometimes I struggle because it is a growth process. If you join a good school you will find nice and supportive people with whom you will grow. Its not always easy, but it is a means of growing. Again, it is not the only way. There are a lot of ways to travel. Meditation is one of many ways. But it may be that these opportunities have presented themself to you for a reason... Just a thought... TIK Last edited by TIK; 08-25-2008 at 02:42 AM. Reason: typo and content

10-19-2011, 08:36 PM	#81 (permalink)
isandesh Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 2	I thought I was the only one. This list is perfect. I have all these symptoms. except for sleep 2:00 am thing cause i work at night. but i do have unusual sleep patterns and i am suffering from insomnia. This list is perfect!.

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Captain Cloudchaser Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: UK Posts: 29	Well this is odd. I've had symptoms like that my entire life, but attributed it to depression. The depression lasted a good few years, I tried everything to 'fix' it, thought something was wrong with me, but it wasn't something to be cured. I grew out of it, you could say.. I started accepting my personality as just me, and not as wrong; I'm an introverted feeler, so I had a few people in my life tell me I was wrong, took a while to come to terms with that. But, that last one, feeling like I want to go home, it strikes a powerful chord. I'm constantly feeling disconnected from the world, the universe, other people, totally alienated, and I have this incredible longing to go home, to return to a place that isn't here. I had this longing before I even started reading up on topics like reincarnation etc. It felt like I wanted the earth to absorb my body and take me whole, or for the skies to sweep me away. When I'm alone with nature or staring at the sky I feel the same way. I wouldn't say I have started a spiritual journey. I've read things, I've become more aware of myself, but I don't meditate or anything like that. I think I'm secretly scared of it, because I can't bring myself to try it. Opportunities like free classes present themselves, but I just don't go. To be honest, they make me feel silly!

06-21-2008, 08:59 AM	#63 (permalink)
dali Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: scotland Posts: 218	I must have led myself to join this forum right enough ! great to be in the company of a whole lot of people who are going through the same as me. problem is how long does it last? mines been going on quite a while. It shall pass... maybe thats all I need to know. Thanks very much for enlightening post. I guess it IS a pregnancy. One that all genders can experience!Maybe i am giving birth to an elephant. Nothing would shock me....

08-21-2008, 04:57 AM	#64 (permalink)
eskimo Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 115	It's great to see that there are others on this board experiencing or have experienced the awakening as well. I'm currently going through it and I'm very familiar with the 12 signs from Geoffrey Hoppe / Tobias that the OP posted. It's been a trying journey for the past year but I now feel closer to God than I have ever felt and it feels great! Here's another link to a site that details a few more signs related to spiritual awakening: Symptoms. This may help clarify it for those of you who may be confusing it with depression. Also, you may be interested to know that I belive the same phenomenon is referred to as a Kundalini awakening in the Hindu tradition. Steve

08-21-2008, 05:19 AM	#65 (permalink)
carenkh Family Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,800	Thanks for reviving this thread, Steve! I really, really needed to read this. One thing I learned through my pregnancies and having homebirths, is that transition is THE most difficult time of birth. In labor, transition is the time between active labor and the need to push, and it's the time most women absolutely feel they can't do it, they MUST have medication, there's NO WAY they can go on. But, with support and lots of love, no medication is needed, transition time passes, pushing begins, and the baby comes! I was amazed when I learned that, because I thought: that's life, too - transition's the hardest time. But if you can hang in there, there will be this whole new life, right in front of you! I had forgotten all about that. Transition. Birth. Awakening. Here's to honoring where I am on the path!

08-22-2008, 06:22 PM	#66 (permalink)
frajilthunder Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 232	I've noticed all last week that it hurts to pee. Could this be a symptom of my awakening divinity?

08-23-2008, 02:37 PM	#69 (permalink)
Ecce Homo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 591	I found CFP's original post to be interesting and useful. Thanks for sharing and thanks eskimo and carenkh for bumping it! I don't think I'd have read it otherwise.

08-23-2008, 02:55 PM	#70 (permalink)
Liara Covert Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 584	Many books and other materials refer to descriptions of self-awakenings. In my mind, this is a very subjective experience that defies words except only so far as you make comparisons to the familliar. When you are dealing with the unfamiliar, words and coomparisons do not do experiences justice.

08-24-2008, 04:36 AM	#72 (permalink)
Dave Kaminski Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 795	Those sound like what happens when you join a cult :P

08-25-2008, 01:57 AM	#73 (permalink)
mark7 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cheshire, England Posts: 130	this is me and my life for the past 3 years down to a T, i went so far as to pack in a $90,000 a year job, to do care work for elderly and disabled people, earning $22,000 a year, im much happier in my self now, and get alot from my work, but still have this great sense of sadness that the bulk of people in the world are going or being intentionally manovered down the wrong path, took me along time to get a handle on this till my G/F sat down with me and said, "mark, you cant change the world all on your own" people have to make there own mistakes and learn from them.

08-25-2008, 02:28 AM	#74 (permalink)
TIK Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 16	Hi Crissy, I had started to experience the things you had described about 2 years ago. Part of it was anxiety and depression, but as I began to work on my own spirituality, these things came and went. A few months ago, I had neck pain so severe that I could not even move my head more than a couple of degrees to the right or left. Extremely painfull sessions of massage therapy was the only way to deal with it. Still get pains every so often as my spiritual growth continues. I had no idea that this could be related to changing of the spiritual DNA. Thanks for sharing this information. I agree that it can help a lot of people. TIK

10-14-2011, 01:14 AM	#76 (permalink)
truthbebold Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 7	I can strongly relate to symptoms 8,11 & 12 physical disorientation: Ive been feeling like I have a foot on earth and the other is where my soul will head after physical death .. this feeling been there for 4-5 years dispassion: I dropped outta college because my motivation & interest in what I was studying kept decreasing as the years went by. luckily, studying psychology opened a door to an interest in spirituality (the real deal) the desire to go home: it's become overwhelming lately I don't feel like I'm suffering, it's just it's hard to go through life feeling 'blah' about a lot of things

10-14-2011, 01:44 AM	#77 (permalink)
truthbebold Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 7	it also feels like life has become timeless & meaningless my question to those who have been there: are we truly able to reconnect to people, to the physical realm ? do we grow out of the lack of passion thing ?

11-08-2011, 12:24 AM	#83 (permalink)
blessed be Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: London Posts: 5	I can certainly vouch for neck pain right now and have just had a strange experience. Also had a headache I naturally interpreted earlier today as something big happening tonight. Could not have foreseen this but the warning was appreciated - 'scrary' stuf with meditation

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