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Old 11-09-2010, 11:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Yes, I said it

So I'm sitting here, chipping away at the Ego (as usual) to get me closer and closer to my natural ascended state where everything is perfect. For a long time I've been working on this, and even experienced a nice temporary awakening. It was pretty awesome. So anyway, I'm chipping away belief after belief that's keeping me away from "the one" moving closer to unconditional love and I just realized "WHAT AM I DOING?" All the pondering, is reality real, did we make this all up, is everything we know only in our minds, the mind is the cause of suffering, WHAT IS THE POINT OF IT ALL? DONT YOU REALIZE THAT THE ONLY THING KEEPING YOU FROM HAPPINESS IS YOUR SEARCH FOR HAPPINESS? It doesn't matter if we are all one, if reality is subjective/objective if angels exist if Jesus was really a reptile, HOLY S***. All that matters is that we enjoy the moment for what it is, and realize that a path to anything is the dumbest STUFF ever.

I hereby give up anything that has anything to do with spirituality, enlightenment, changing beliefs, controlling thoughts and pledge to live my life.

I hope I remember this STUFF in the morning, lol.
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Drink lots of water before going to bed; it'll keep you from dehydrating, and the hangover won't be so bad.
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I just kinda realized that I'm a lot happier when I'm not thinking about enlightenment and just living life. There are a lot of people out there that are just looking for this 'path to happiness' and the only thing that's keeping them unhappy is thinking there's a path. So as of now, I give it all up. Maybe I'll change my mind tomorrow morning, but I hope not.
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Hi Showtime,

That is OK for you to do that eliminating the frustrations time to time.

No matter what you do you cannot escape God's dream, More you have frustrated, more God will smile with enjoyment within you.

I too used do that long time ago and it was useful time to time, but do not give up your progress because the reason why you are here is for the enlightenment.

The ultimate end result of human evolution is to become absolute.

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Hi Showtime,

That is OK for you to do that eliminating the frustrations time to time.

No matter what you do you cannot escape God's dream, More you have frustrated, more God will smile with enjoyment within you.

I too used do that long time ago and it was useful time to time, but do not give up your progress because the reason why you are here is for the enlightenment.

The ultimate end result of human evolution is to become absolute.

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I'm not frustrated, I'm very happy. I was a happy person before I started any spirituality stuff, and I just realized all this searching for answers was making me miserable. That's all.

I think it was Abraham who said "It's only when people are out of The Vortex that people are 'seeking enlightenment'" and I just realized how much time I've spent out of the "Vortex" looking for answers and methods and how the ego works and how the universe works and how to shed the Ego, and I realized that I was much happier before I started doing all this stuff.

So goodbye, love you all, and good luck on your journeys.

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I'm not frustrated, I'm very happy. I was a happy person before I started any spirituality stuff, and I just realized all this searching for answers was making me miserable. That's all.
You can quite comfortably live in this world without searching, just the way you are or decided to take a spiritual path to find age old questions. Why are we here and who am I?

Either way, you are living and loving the life of God so don't worry and be happy.

Perhaps you took some hard line of approach about the spiritual path that you are in now.

Maybe you should change to a different way.

Cool yourself and think another way.

However, let me tell you don't give up your progress it is worth it.

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By stopping the search you're closer to realizing enlightenment, XD
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You can quite comfortably live this world without searching, just the way you are or decided to take spiritual path to find age old questions why are we here and who am I.

But let me tell you don't give up your progress it is worth it.
We're here to have a good time. So I'm gonna go grab a beer with a few friends. That's my enlightenment. Thanks for the support though.

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haha, i know, funny **** ain't it?

Whatever, I'm just gonna have as good a time in the moment as I can, and that will be my "path to enlightenment."
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We're here to have a good time. So I'm gonna go grab a beer with a few friends. That's my enlightenment. Thanks for the support though.
Before you go, would you like to share what kind of method or path you were on?
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Before you go, would you like to share what kind of method or path you were on?
Nothing crazy like wacking myself with sticks or meditating with hot coals under my ass, just aligning with unconditional love. I've used a lot of methods, but no technique feels as good as I feel just giving it all up now as I'm doing. And I realize I feel like I did before I started it.

Here's my thoughts on it:

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But as far as what I've done... a bunch of stuff. Tolle, different enlightened teachers, some Osho, chipping away at the ego, being non judmental. I just realized.. I don't care if I judge. I don't have to live in appreciation mode all the time. I like making fun of people, I like joking around with my friends. The whole spirituality thing was just... never me. I'm still going to take little things that irritate me and move them into places where they don't irritate me, but there's no real race to it. Whatever happens happens.
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if its best for you,then do it.

but just be aware that im sad cause you´re leaving.i´ll be missing your posts.
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if its best for you,then do it.

but just be aware that im sad cause you´re leaving.i´ll be missing your posts.
I'm not leaving the forum, I'm just "Bustin Loose From the Enlightenment Game"

I feel perfect just how I am.

You're cute btw
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oh my mistake then !..guess its time for bed cause im reading all wrong

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Hi Showtime,

I just looked at your commitment with this forum that you joined 3 months ago, and you made over 300 posts and became a senior member.

That is a very commendable effort!

That is a lot of effort but running too quickly I think.

I suppose the path to spirituality is taking with one step at the time.
Perhaps you're running too fast and not getting any returns that is why you are frustrated and of course your method could be in question too.

Remember, the Lion?, Lion has to lot of power and can run very fast and powerful but can't sustain the long run and exhausted very quickly.

Your efforts are building, but you can't see or feel it immediately.
Take one step at the time and don't be a Lion.

Lion's way is not a very spiritual way.

Go slow like Turtle.

They can go very long distance and get there too.

May the pure energy be with you guide you with love...

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I understand what you're going through, Show. Went through it myself just before I turned 30, and my "path" at the time was Roman Catholicism. I was so incredibly happy, they threw me into lockup in a mental hospital. True story.

I will advise, though, that this is just the beginning of another leg of your journey through your lifetime. There's plenty more to come, I assure you.
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THE ONLY THING KEEPING YOU FROM HAPPINESS IS YOUR SEARCH FOR HAPPINESS...
Applause on your breakthrough.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: If you think there's something wrong with your experience, you're operating out of ego.

We're not here to 'destroy' the ego and become one with god, we're already god and we're having a good time. Enlightenment is the ego's game, where it tries to find a way to escape pain and suffering. That's all the pursuit of enlightenment is. The ego's desire to escape life. It takes a long time to realize you can't win that game and you just give up and go back to being the way you were. That 'F*** IT!, I'm going to have a good time' attitude is closer to our natural state than all the narcissistic navel-gazing.

Of course, you can't just avoid the pursuit of enlightenment. You have to see it and feel it on a fundamental level for it to really make a difference. You'll just keep going back to the enlightenment game over and over again until you really 'get it' in spite of yourself.

It's kind of nice knowing you're free to live your life the way you want, though, isn't it? That and not having to defend the ego all of the time. Gives you a lot more time and energy to do what you want.
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Yea, I'm not knocking it at all, it's a great life goal. Just for me, I wasn't really suffering in the first place, and I kinda created discomfort by looking for something. I've always been able to laugh at myself and what is termed "Ego" was never really a big problem for me.

Right now I feel like an A- on the happiness scale. Before I started I was probably a B, so I have made good progress. During the "search" there were a lot of times I was around D- though.

Obviously I'm gonna try to bump my A- up to an A+, but from now on I'm just gonna do it my way.

Thanks for the replies guys, really appreciated.
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Yes, I said it

So I'm sitting here, chipping away at the Ego (as usual) to get me closer and closer to my natural ascended state where everything is perfect. For a long time I've been working on this, and even experienced a nice temporary awakening. It was pretty awesome. So anyway, I'm chipping away belief after belief that's keeping me away from "the one" moving closer to unconditional love and I just realized "WHAT THE **** AM I DOING?" All the F***ing pondering, is reality real, did we make this all up, is everything we know only in our minds, the mind is the cause of suffering, WHAT THE F*** IS THE POINT OF IT ALL? DONT YOU REALIZE THAT THE ONLY THING KEEPING YOU FROM HAPPINESS IS YOUR SEARCH FOR HAPPINESS? It doesn't F***ing matter if we are all one, if reality is subjective/objective if angels exist if Jesus was really a reptile, HOLY S***. All that matters is that we enjoy the moment for what it is, and realize that a path to anything is the dumbest S*** ever.

I hereby give up anything that has anything to do with spirituality, enlightenment, changing beliefs, controlling thoughts and pledge to live my F***ing life.

I hope I remember this S*** in the morning, lol.
Haha...that is easily one of the most enlightened posts I've read on this forum!!

No doubt, when we pursue happiness we are merely making a declaration that in this moment, we are not happy....and therefore, we end up chasing our tail....that said, it still doesn't stop me sometimes from trying!

I'm beginning to see that the greater part of myself can still be quite happy and content and yeah, even joyful, when the smaller me is indulging in a fit of misery.

lol...see..there I go again, analyzing the crap out of the experience!
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Showtime, your signature says it all. I think you've become enlightened. Perfect.
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What a wonderful post Showtime, thank you.

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I just kinda realized that I'm a lot happier when I'm not thinking about enlightenment and just living life. There are a lot of people out there that are just looking for this 'path to happiness' and the only thing that's keeping them unhappy is thinking there's a path. So as of now, I give it all up. Maybe I'll change my mind tomorrow morning, but I hope not.
that's it. paradoxically, by refusing to find it, you will.

you are already enlightened, we all are, but the trick seems to be having this become a readily apparent reality. wish I could tell you how, but it seems to be a very individual non-pursuit. crazy, huh?
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Showtime, your signature says it all. I think you've become enlightened. Perfect.
Personally, I find his signature rather silly. My reality functions as follows: I want something, I get it. There's no barriers between what I want and getting it. If it's money, I get money. If it's freedom, I get freedom. I just have to be realistic about what it takes. If I want more time with my little bro, who lives in Birmingham, I'd have to go to considerable time and expense to get it. If it's a lady I want, well, I have to go talk to her, now don't I? If I don't want to talk to her, then obviously I don't want her, I want a fantasy.

If you want something, then you also want to go to the effort of getting it, because the two are one in the same. If you find the opposite, then what you really should be doing is exploring this gap in your motivation, because there's something profound there about yourself that you don't understand yet.

This was how I finally escaped the trap of PUA thinking. I'm not a PUA, don't want to be. The lifestyle comes with incredible sacrifices, that can't be eliminated without eliminating the entire mindset. You have to want the endless, soulless sex. If it's not in your makeup, you're not going to succeed at being a PUA. Sort of like being a porn star, except you don't get laid as much and don't get paid.

Now, if you want endless, meaningful connections with women, well, then PUA stuff isn't going to help you there, but you can do something easier than PUA exercises. Just talk to loads of women and get to know them. If you can't do that, then you don't want endless, meaningful connections with women. Because if you did, then that's exactly what you'd be doing all the time.

I think his signature is the perfect expression of wishful thinking. Things don't happen in his head exactly as his fantasies want them, so he mistakenly thinks that you need to not want them in order to get them. "Oh man, if I want loads of chicks, all I have to do is not want them!" Sure, aloof people attract stuff. But aloofness is a strategy. You don't fool yourself into thinking you don't want them to appear aloof. It's a sales tactic.

All in all I sense frustration. Frustration coming from misapplied effort. He could have enlightenment if he focused his efforts the right way. If he got more meta about his thoughts instead of going willy-nilly with the exercises.
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Personally, I find his signature rather silly. My reality functions as follows: I want something, I get it. There's no barriers between what I want and getting it. If it's money, I get money. If it's freedom, I get freedom. I just have to be realistic about what it takes. If I want more time with my little bro, who lives in Birmingham, I'd have to go to considerable time and expense to get it. If it's a lady I want, well, I have to go talk to her, now don't I? If I don't want to talk to her, then obviously I don't want her, I want a fantasy.

If you want something, then you also want to go to the effort of getting it, because the two are one in the same. If you find the opposite, then what you really should be doing is exploring this gap in your motivation, because there's something profound there about yourself that you don't understand yet.

This was how I finally escaped the trap of PUA thinking. I'm not a PUA, don't want to be. The lifestyle comes with incredible sacrifices, that can't be eliminated without eliminating the entire mindset. You have to want the endless, soulless sex. If it's not in your makeup, you're not going to succeed at being a PUA. Sort of like being a porn star, except you don't get laid as much and don't get paid.

Now, if you want endless, meaningful connections with women, well, then PUA stuff isn't going to help you there, but you can do something easier than PUA exercises. Just talk to loads of women and get to know them. If you can't do that, then you don't want endless, meaningful connections with women. Because if you did, then that's exactly what you'd be doing all the time.

I think his signature is the perfect expression of wishful thinking. Things don't happen in his head exactly as his fantasies want them, so he mistakenly thinks that you need to not want them in order to get them. "Oh man, if I want loads of chicks, all I have to do is not want them!" Sure, aloof people attract stuff. But aloofness is a strategy. You don't fool yourself into thinking you don't want them to appear aloof. It's a sales tactic.

All in all I sense frustration. Frustration coming from misapplied effort. He could have enlightenment if he focused his efforts the right way. If he got more meta about his thoughts instead of going willy-nilly with the exercises.
I think you missed the joke buddy, and what the hell are you talking about anyway? lol. Guy's going on about his failed dream of being a Pick Up Artist.



Pic edited just for ssandra ;D

The point of the thread is trying to be happy = keeps happiness from you. I got exactly what I wanted. The frustration was also part of the joke, but that was obviously out of your realm of awareness as well. Pretty much everyone here gets what they want.

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The point of the thread is trying to be happy = keeps happiness from you. I got exactly what I wanted. The frustration was also part of the joke, but that was obviously out of your realm of awareness as well. Pretty much everyone here gets what they want.
You don't have to try to be happy. You can just be happy without anything. Doesn't mean you need to be happy all the time. If it feels good to be happy at the time, then feel it.
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Good for you - you're following what feels right for you (honouring yourself), and not taking on stuff that other people say... is right-on. Shedding the crap to be authentic is the end-point. The guidance you or anyone gets is for your own benefit, not others. So, if you're guided to eat healthily that doesn't mean you need to share the news with everyone and get them to eat healthily too - to follow what you do. Anyway, I ramble.

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Yea I agree guys, thanks for the replies.
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