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Old 12-15-2010, 05:04 PM   #61 (permalink)
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The real warning will be when your are required to re-register with Facebook...again, any number of events can be used to trigger this, a virus scare is my guess. At some point, you will be required to interact with the television. Getting off of Facebook NOW gives you the benefit of not being obligated to that requirement, or subjected to the conditioning that is leading up to it.

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Could you explain what that means , exactly? I can sort of understand the conditioning part, but why would getting off Facebook save you from future obligations? I don't really use Facebook, although I have a pseudonym account, so I don't know too much about it.
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LLL, I understand your post, and certainly take no offense.

I left Facebook in order to not be exposed to a lot of ca-ca I don't want in my mind OR life. While there may be merits to Facebook, ANY hook needs bait or you don't catch fish.

As a veteran 9/11 Truther, I'm not concerned about being in the cross-hairs. I'm more interested in monitoring what goes into my brain. Facebook foists a lot of unwanted mental trash, regardless if you block it or not. Some of us are becoming very sensitive to very subtle suggestions and conditioning processes, and we simply have to look away from them. Facebook is not going to improve, and in fact, will become more deliberately mindless. As this process furthers desensitivity, it is unlikely most will notice the subtle change.

I, too, re-united with several persons I had not contacted in many years. And exchanging "LOL"s isn't much of an improvement. I offered them my e-mail address, and had only one taker.

The superficial nature of the site is enough to make Sensitives leave. So we did.
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Old 12-15-2010, 05:15 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Could you explain what that means , exactly? I can sort of understand the conditioning part, but why would getting off Facebook save you from future obligations? I don't really use Facebook, although I have a pseudonym account, so I don't know too much about it.
They have already initiated certain changes, just last week. It is my gut feeling that the re-registration puts members into a newer database while requiring new "agreements" as a condition for membership.

We are so close to "1984" it isn't funny. The interactive screen, all-seeing Big Brother, and how this is coming about is exactly by those refusing to question it, but instead, defending it. The internet has already eliminated many public interactions, and soon one will never have to leave the house except to go put in time for the State.
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Old 12-15-2010, 05:29 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Personally, I came off FB because I felt it was interfering with my desire to create a great social life off-line. And that's not the case with everyone of course. For me it has more to do with me being relatively new to my area. I wanted to force myself to 'get out there!' And it worked.

Turning off the telly, living off-line more and more (cause I still spend a lot of time on these forums) are, to me, ways to live the 3D experience more fully.

Of course, any reason to leave FB is valid for the person involved. No need to defend your choices in life, really.
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Roy, I do understand where you are coming from but I also feel that though you are exposed to a buttload of crap (pun intended) on Facebook, you nevertheless have the power and ability to either digest it and absorb it or the other option... let it go.

Its mind blowing some of the games, meaningless talk, application and other things that we come across on facebook as well as the internet as a whole. But again, we still have a choice to either be affected by it or not.
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"" the fact that the population's pineal gland is surrounded by calcium is one such "mark", as are the chemical deposits we've unquestioningly accepted through the years.

Chemtrails, anyone?

Or Adamantine Particles Of Light?
Do you have any more info on that calcium thing?
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Old 12-16-2010, 07:23 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Do you have any more info on that calcium thing?
There are a couple of threads inolving the pineal gland and the calcification. "Ascension First Aid" also mentions it.
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Personally, I came off FB because I felt it was interfering with my desire to create a great social life off-line. And that's not the case with everyone of course. For me it has more to do with me being relatively new to my area. I wanted to force myself to 'get out there!' And it worked.
I had the opposite experience, Kishka. I found a wonderful community of afk friends in my new area because of FB -- old friends with whom I reconnected, acquaintances who have become friends, and friends of friends. It has been a great tool for "getting out there!" for me.
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There are a couple of threads inolving the pineal gland and the calcification. "Ascension First Aid" also mentions it.
Thanks.
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It won't be long before I leave the internet, too.
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What's holding you back?
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It won't be long before I leave the internet, too.
Oooh, I'm sure that will be great for you. I only joined the Internet community about 2 years ago...and very reluctantly at that. I only bought a laptop so I could do my online course in english as a second language...and then got distracted by the forum

I kinda view the internet as the closest thing to the devil in this realm, though I can see it's positives and how amazing it is from a technological perspective...it just sucks the lifetime out of people, the same way t.v does. Life was much better without it, and yes, life can and does go on without the internet...I can promise that.

Hope you enjoy it Royster.
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:38 PM   #73 (permalink)
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I don't agree that life was better without the internet. I'm no Luddite; I love technology and it's up to the user to approach it with discretion. It's not the internet's fault you spend 10 hours a day online.
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I don't agree that life was better without the internet.
Me, neither -- the Internet is like a group discussion (well, it IS a group discussion!) and what one gets out of and contributes to that discussion is up to the participant.
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Me, neither -- the Internet is like a group discussion (well, it IS a group discussion!) and what one gets out of and contributes to that discussion is up to the participant.
Yep! The whole thing about not having any real world social life is the consequence you have when you spend every waking hour online.

I don't always do that, but I do live with this consequence sometimes. It's more of finding empowered friends who will accept me and love me for who I am that seems tough. Working on it.
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I think I don't mind the fact that I'm on the internet so much because I do have a really lively, exciting social life offline. This is my relaxing, "me" time where I can still be intellectually stimulated in the comfort of my own home.

That said, once I get a new job, I think I will be spending less time on here.
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Primarily my mother.


I wanted to leave it at that, because it would be funny, but I DO have to explain that e-mails keep us in contact. She'll be 89 in a few days, and really struggling to get there.


As far as going off the internet: yeah, it IS a tool of the devil, and sure YOU CAN make stuff like that work for you, etc etc etc. yadda yadda, Warden.

The Grid is alive and well, and for simply developing the psychic senses in accordance with the universe's instructions, the internet will become quite obsolete to those who evolve onward. The mainstream will never take you anywhere except a waterfall, at some point.

Though I am certainly grateful for all it's done in my world.
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Hmm, I'm not one to opt out of something just *because* it is mainstream, but based on my tastes, I usually end up on the outer fringes anyway.
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I don't agree that life was better without the internet. I'm no Luddite; I love technology and it's up to the user to approach it with discretion. It's not the internet's fault you spend 10 hours a day online.
I could have been clearer. MY life was better before the internet. I didn't think about it, or get sucked into spending hours online, like I used to with the t.v. I find technology amazing but I also like to use things like BOOKS...(what are they?) to find out stuff. I find that the amount of time it takes for my computer to find a page sucks up so much of my time. I definately use it with discretion. I also resonate with Quakers quite a lot, so it's possible that if past lives are true, then I used to be one!

I'm not saying that I don't get a lot out of being on this forum...I do, and it's about the only place I come to on the internet, apart from gmail and a forum for people living with PTSD.

The feeling I get when I turn on the computer, the energy it gives off, I find uncomfortable.

Each to their own though. It's definately a good resource...I just like having more time to go tot he forest or the beach or to hug trees, and talk to people in real life.

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Hmm, I'm not one to opt out of something just *because* it is mainstream, but based on my tastes, I usually end up on the outer fringes anyway.
As ascension takes its toll, I find it harder and harder to subscribe to much of anything in this world. Then Archangel Michael reminds me to be IN it, not OF it. Good. I've long had a misgiving about the mainstream, but having been through what I have, I have no faith in any institution, and just barely in humanity. (My bad, I know...I've got it in the shop and am working on it. I ordered parts from Mitzubishi and they'll be in in three weeks, maybe. Meanwhile, I'm bad. Dazright.)

So outter fringes are alright with me, though I'm sure they look better on you than me.

A huge event is about to take place on FaceBook. We'll just see how it lands.
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Primarily my mother.


I wanted to leave it at that, because it would be funny, but I DO have to explain that e-mails keep us in contact. She'll be 89 in a few days, and really struggling to get there.


As far as going off the internet: yeah, it IS a tool of the devil, and sure YOU CAN make stuff like that work for you, etc etc etc. yadda yadda, Warden.

The Grid is alive and well, and for simply developing the psychic senses in accordance with the universe's instructions, the internet will become quite obsolete to those who evolve onward. The mainstream will never take you anywhere except a waterfall, at some point.

Though I am certainly grateful for all it's done in my world.
You participate on this forum because of your mother? You could stick to just emailing her -- you'd minimize your exposure to the devil that way.
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Like every tool of modern life, the internet changes things. In a lot of cases it brings us needs that wouldn't get met otherwise. I dunno--it's all about context. And the context that makes the internet possible (in it's current form) is also the one that tends to make it harder to get those needs met in the first place. And like any artificial way to meet a need, it doesn't feel quite right.

I seriously appreciate the speed at which I'm able to find answers to questions, although that same kind of thing has exacerbated my ADD-like behavior. I also really appreciate the conversation that's made possible with it, and the ability to share perspectives has opened up new worlds for me.

I took my brother to a fantastical part of a local forest (I'm honestly not sure how many people know about it) and he said something that surprised me. It's entirely covered in vines and ivy--not kudzu though, this stuff is way more beautiful. It seriously looks like something out of the Lord of the Rings. We sat down on a log that because of all the ivy had a spongey seat. I looked up at a tree entirely covered in vines: you could climb them. He looked down at his cellphone, which he's on several hours a day, then back up, and said something out of character. "You know, I love technology, but not at the price of this."

That pretty much sums it up.

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Mine too.

The Internet is a wonderful tool for many things, but it became a crutch for me early on. I didn't socialize with people face-to-face. I didn't have the courage to make actual friends, so I latched onto the Internet in a big way because it was safe. It wasn't even a matter of "you can be anyone here." It was more like, I could be the person I would be in my "analog" life...if I only had da noive.

A couple years ago I let Facebook suck me back into social connections I'd left behind 15 years ago. All these people who'd been living without me, and I without them, and now suddenly we're "friends" again.

I felt guilty because I had disappeared on less-than-pleasant terms with so many of them (there was a their-crappy-band vs. my-crappier-band feud). Some part of me wanted them to know I was different now. Humble, apologetic, meek.

Yeah, I know. Pathetic. I guess I have a chance now to say "goodbye" on good terms, though. That's going to feel good.
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As ascension takes its toll, I find it harder and harder to subscribe to much of anything in this world. Then Archangel Michael reminds me to be IN it, not OF it. Good. I've long had a misgiving about the mainstream, but having been through what I have, I have no faith in any institution, and just barely in humanity. (My bad, I know...I've got it in the shop and am working on it. I ordered parts from Mitzubishi and they'll be in in three weeks, maybe. Meanwhile, I'm bad. Dazright.)

So outter fringes are alright with me, though I'm sure they look better on you than me.

A huge event is about to take place on FaceBook. We'll just see how it lands.
Roy, you're a freakin riot. I hope those parts get installed soon. Keep em oiled!
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The Internet is definately a safe haven for many, many people who have poor social skills or trouble socializing, or shyness (social anxiety disorder).

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Mine too.

The Internet is a wonderful tool for many things, but it became a crutch for me early on. I didn't socialize with people face-to-face. I didn't have the courage to make actual friends, so I latched onto the Internet in a big way because it was safe. It wasn't even a matter of "you can be anyone here." It was more like, I could be the person I would be in my "analog" life...if I only had da noive.

A couple years ago I let Facebook suck me back into social connections I'd left behind 15 years ago. All these people who'd been living without me, and I without them, and now suddenly we're "friends" again.

I felt guilty because I had disappeared on less-than-pleasant terms with so many of them (there was a their-crappy-band vs. my-crappier-band feud). Some part of me wanted them to know I was different now. Humble, apologetic, meek.

Yeah, I know. Pathetic. I guess I have a chance now to say "goodbye" on good terms, though. That's going to feel good.
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I certainly went through cyber-puberty when I came on the internet. It can indeed be a tool, but it can also be a crutch.

Angela. I assume you're just pulling my strings...I have internet for the e-mail, so I of course use the forums as well. I only participate on two forums. This forum has fluctuations many members see, and occassionally they leave due to the low parts of the fluctuations. I see this as just the energy pattern of the Pavlina forums. I once tried to leave for the same reason. I'm trying to be sparse right now for many reasons, but I also need (or feel I need) the interaction with like-minds...until ascension takes me to telepathy, which it is slowly doing. It is my hope to share that process for those it can benefit. I also need the scrutiny of Angela and Inri in regards to helping me stay on the path. I appreciate the hollers.

Facebook was created by a recluse...or so the story goes. I do not trust the mainstream explanation of Facebook's creation or purpose. I know that as I evolve, I cannot accomodate old luxuries in my being, and I do not wish to risk potential traps...particularly when the bait is merely sugary-sweet innocense disguising unknown intentions.
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Angela. I assume you're just pulling my strings...I have internet for the e-mail, so I of course use the forums as well. I only participate on two forums.
I am. It's funny to hear someone complaining (and in your case, even demonizing!) and rationalizing about something they are themselves powerfully generating.

It's like seeing a little kid doing this:



"Chinese finger traps are the work of the devil!!!"
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When YOU get to be 53 years old, I bet you complain about all SORTS of stuff. If you're older than that NOW, then you're pretty set in your ways, and there's no point in telling you about anything.

BTW, it wasn't ME who stated "Facebook is the devil". That's another thread someone else started.

You gonna eat those 'fries?
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You participate on this forum because of your mother? You could stick to just emailing her -- you'd minimize your exposure to the devil that way.
I think royster was answering your question the way HE took it to mean...that you were asking him what is holding him back in his LIFE...not from stopping using facebook!

Is that right royster?

p.s I'm the one who said I think that facebook and the computer in general is the devil(;

I'm the weird one, I know!
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