Artists more connected to God?

[MC Kejml]

Hey.

A certain poster here had said that artists have their life harder in a way, they are very sensitive and have problems living a "normal" life, even though they can accomplish huge creative goals.

And, in Walsch's book, I have read about mind, body and soul, and that soul wants to be expressed, unless mind denies it the expression. I also read about "disabling" the mind to let the soul do what it's supposed to do.

So I came to an interesting idea, that artists are more connected to the source, which supplies them with ideas and the things just flow through them, their "soul" is more potent in them. That's why they have problems living a rational life, where they'd be dominated by mind instead of soul, even in relationships to other non-artists.

What are your views on this?

[LostMyMap]

Can't hitch a ride on this one. The reason is because I don't agree with the idea that artists somehow have cornered the market on creativity. There are other kinds of creativity besides artistic. Any doctor, engineer, software developer, anyone who's challenged to solve a problem can be exercising creativity.

And although it may be hard for some to believe, sometimes the answer to a problem really does just flow to me. I 'see' the solution in a way that is different than if I analyzed it with the usual skills. So I don't feel that my connection to the 'source' is somehow less because I'm not an angst ridden artist.

[elucidate]

This is totally true. We are more in touch with our own creator aspect on a daily basis, and therefore, "normal life"just doesn't meld as easily as it does for most. Plus which, part of being very creative requires sensitivity, and most people are pretty desenstized, so yeah, our journey is MUCH harder in that we perceive things that other people don't really...even though everyone has this creative aspect, it's just not encouraged, and there are a hell of a lot of limited "gremlins"that keep people from discovering their own creativity, in whatever form it takes.

I agree with LostMyMap on that one...everyone is creative, it's just the definition of creative that people aren't so expansive on. Maybe artists are a bit more sensitive than people who are creative in other ways...so it isn't that other non-artists aren't connected to source, of course they are...I just think artists have a more intense relationship with Source, probably because they acknowledge it more readily?

Originally Posted by MC Kejml

Hey.

A certain poster here had said that artists have their life harder in a way, they are very sensitive and have problems living a "normal" life, even though they can accomplish huge creative goals.

And, in Walsch's book, I have read about mind, body and soul, and that soul wants to be expressed, unless mind denies it the expression. I also read about "disabling" the mind to let the soul do what it's supposed to do.

So I came to an interesting idea, that artists are more connected to the source, which supplies them with ideas and the things just flow through them, their "soul" is more potent in them. That's why they have problems living a rational life, where they'd be dominated by mind instead of soul, even in relationships to other non-artists.

What are your views on this?

[Angelique]

No. I don't really agree. I believe we're all artists, we just have different mediums. We're always creating, whether we realize it or not. I don't believe there is a way to grade a person's connection to source. I do believe there's substance in everyone that sometimes doesn't get expressed, so it stays in there..waiting to be released..and it causes a ruckus while it's trapped.

[old dead wood]

I agree that there are different kinds of creativity. I used to work with engineers at a major computer company and I was awed by their logically-creative talents. The creativity I have most experience with is artistic. I have known a few artistically-talented people that had trouble living normal lives. I know a man who almost daily writes involved religious / spiritual blurbs that TO ME, seem to make sense, but he has been hospitalized several times and admits he is "crazy" (if anyone is interested, I can post a paragraph example of his writing). There seems to be an "artistically religious" type of person. Are the writings in the Bible divinely inspired, or just creative flights taken by people who are OCD-afflicted authors ? Was Paul afflicted with epilepsy when he had his visions ? I don't know. My 7th grade band-mate was VERY creative, right-in-tune with the times (mid-60's) musically, but also was schizophrenic. He had many visions and delusions, and used to call me to explain his "machines" for accessing other realities. He ended "experimenting" with radio-wave frequencies and the mind, with the writer mentioned above. THEY claimed to access certain knowledges, but the writer admitted my friend went too far into forbidden powers, and my friend put himself into a permanent coma with a suicide attempt. Sometimes I feel that they may be RIGHT, but they went too far ahead into the spiritual realm, and I don't know if that's closer to God or not.

[Grandiouse]

Creativity has to be developed and maintained, just like any "muscle." Everyone is creative, but the difference lies in those who choose to express it or not.

I think those who do make the choice to express creativity will be more connected with the source because they are vibating at a higher level. You need to take yourself out of the normal "everyday" way of thinking in order to be creative. That leads to soul searching, using the mind to think about abstract things, making a connection with a spiritual source for inspiration, etc.

[neilpage]

Originally Posted by LostMyMap

Can't hitch a ride on this one. The reason is because I don't agree with the idea that artists somehow have cornered the market on creativity. There are other kinds of creativity besides artistic. Any doctor, engineer, software developer, anyone who's challenged to solve a problem can be exercising creativity.

SWEET!

[Wax Frog]

I don't think the OP meant to devalue other forms of creativity, or claim that non-artists are further from Source. Here's my take - are artists so overloaded by the ideas that come to them, and the form in which they come, (for me at least) the intense vision, both outer and inner, that they have no hope of "fitting in"? Sometimes I feel like my past phobias and [existential crises?] are a byproduct of my being fed relatively unfiltered "stuff" from that Source, that I was being overloaded.

A few years ago, on one remarkably symbol-filled day, I came to understand that my agoraphobia was due to "too much" sound and color and movement all at once.

[Solipsist]

Yes, I think so, at least generally speaking. Especially musicians, and even more especially those who compose their own stuff, as they have the capacity to reach a much, much wider audience than with any other artist.

[LostMyMap]

Originally Posted by neilpage

SWEET!

Why thank you!

I do agree that the world is full of stories of artists that suffered, or just didn't fit in well.

There's some quote about genius and mental illness being two sides of the same coin. Could apply to artistic geniuses like van Gogh, or mathematical geniuses like John Nash.

[CoolBee]

Originally Posted by LostMyMap

Can't hitch a ride on this one. The reason is because I don't agree with the idea that artists somehow have cornered the market on creativity. There are other kinds of creativity besides artistic. Any doctor, engineer, software developer, anyone who's challenged to solve a problem can be exercising creativity.

And although it may be hard for some to believe, sometimes the answer to a problem really does just flow to me. I 'see' the solution in a way that is different than if I analyzed it with the usual skills. So I don't feel that my connection to the 'source' is somehow less because I'm not an angst ridden artist.

Bravo! Totally agree - especially the bit about sometimes the answer does 'just flow' to you - I have had that experience too.

Just because someone who doesn't 'get' math or science can't recognize the utter beauty and simplicity of equations, physical 'laws' and the creative genius of those who discover them, doesn't mean they're not creative or spiritual in some way. Also doesn't mean that those who DO get the wonder of math and science are not spiritual either.

I have a close friend in her 50s who is exploring many aspects of spirituality at the moment and she keeps running up against physics concepts that are completely new to her as she never paid any attention to science at school assuming like many do that it's all about an unexciting 'clockwork' universe. She has said to me more than once lately "I wish I had listened more but it just seemed irrelevant and boring at the time". So of late I am turning into her personal physics tutor

[agsags]

Originally Posted by Solipsist

Yes, I think so, at least generally speaking. Especially musicians, and even more especially those who compose their own stuff, as they have the capacity to reach a much, much wider audience than with any other artist.

I would add dancers to musicians. Dancer are usually very connected with the body, with the NOW (while dancing).