Question about death

[dream]

I wanted to get your thoughts on what you thought about death. (It is all contingent on the fact that you have some spirituality of course). Specifically the honor or credit to how one dies. I had this thought that I wonder if when you die the other side commends your death the same way we commend a impacting life.

The bible says that there are witnesses in heaven who cheer us on as we run this race called life (Hebrews). Then there is another scripture (that scares me) which says even the demons know our reputation on earth as good or bad (James). Then there is the book of Job where God asked Satan where he was and he said roaming throughout the earth. Both satan and God had a conversation about Job (Which shows me that both God and Satan knows us by name and our reputation.

Anyway, if you die by fighting a terminal disease I would think the other side must cheer you one when you meet them at death, or if you died fighting for the rights of others. You would have a reputation of Hero on the other side. I also imagined someone on the mission to Mars uncovering great info and there be a resume of sorts if they died. "Wow I always wanted to meet you the first to die in space". Just as many of us would meet the oldest in death and have respect in wanting to shake the hands of a person who....The process of dying must be difficult as well as others who have died before will say "You made it", no easy task, when we finally pass from this world to the next.

Of course I encourage everyone to enjoy their lives but I was just wondering what your thoughts are on death. This is actually therapeutic for me as I dread the topic but have matured to write a thread on it. (Progress for me). So what do you think?

[curiouslyrandom]

I don't believe in heaven, hell or the devil, so my thoughts on death will be different from yours.

As I perceive it, death is just a transition from the physical body back to pure spirit. Nothing more, nothing less, and certainly nothing to fear. It doesn't matter how your physical entity dies. Pick any ending you like.

[Mounds]

Death for me is the transition from being among the living to going back into the earth. Your death is something else's life. As for spirit, no comprende!

[curiouslyrandom]

Originally Posted by Mounds

Death for me is the transition from being among the living to going back into the earth. Your death is something else's life. As for spirit, no comprende!

So you see yourself as nothing more than your physical body?

[Mounds]

You got it!

[curiouslyrandom]

Originally Posted by Mounds

You got it!

So in your opinion, what animates you, or differentiates you from any other lump of biological material?

[Arcturus]

I believe - and hope - that death will be like stepping out of the physical body and into an existence of spirit in the same way a person can step out of a broken down car and start walking. It's only the worn out or diseased physical body that actually 'dies' - not the force within.
I know this is a pretty hard concept for many people to accept and believe - myself included some of the time - but I ask myself how can this not be the case? I am in my physical body looking out at, and experiencing, the world. How am I in this body, how did I come to be, where would my conscience be if I were not physically here and hadn't been born?
The world, everything in it and the universe are much too complex, in my opinion, to have been created by accident. Whoever or whatever created us must have created the life force that is within us. That life force is not something that is simply extinguished when the physical body dies.

I realise that I might not have put across a strong argument here and that there are many doubters who will probably have an answer to what I have said.
These are simply my beliefs and I'm not trying to convince anyone.

[Lakshyayidhi Lakshmihi]

The infinite can't be described with finite words, which is all we have because they are bound by the temporal body.

I weep for those who do not know and have not experienced the transition. I was with my Dad when he passed, I kissed his forehead still warm from the retreating energy of his spirit. But the very instant that his spirit fled, I felt it. You know, energy cannot be created or destroyed and all that.

For a long time before that moment I doubted and wondered. But when I was blessed to experience it, a single tear slid down his cheek - amazing because he had been in a coma at home for 2 weeks and had had no fluids for that entire time. He brought me home when he died. That was 4 years ago on the 28th of this month.

[Mounds]

Originally Posted by curiouslyrandom

So in your opinion, what animates you, or differentiates you from any other lump of biological material?

I pretty much look at it as cells working together. That's what animates us. Millions of years of evolution has lead us to this point. It was bound to happen that one species would eventually rule supreme and that's where were at. Looking at the universe in the present moment, it would appear to be too complex to be an accident. Stretch it out over billions of years and extremely slow and accidental events add up into something. We, as a species could have just as easily died out with 99% of other species and something else would've eventually fluked out.
That's just my take.

-Tim

[dream]

These is all very interesting thoughts on death. You are all of course need to make no apologises for your ideas. It's what you think.

Lakshyayidhi Lakshmihi, your post was absolutely beautiful and I love your example to help visualize what death must be like.

[inri]

Originally Posted by Lakshyayidhi Lakshmihi

The infinite can't be described with finite words, which is all we have because they are bound by the temporal body.

I weep for those who do not know and have not experienced the transition. I was with my Dad when he passed, I kissed his forehead still warm from the retreating energy of his spirit. But the very instant that his spirit fled, I felt it. You know, energy cannot be created or destroyed and all that.

For a long time before that moment I doubted and wondered. But when I was blessed to experience it, a single tear slid down his cheek - amazing because he had been in a coma at home for 2 weeks and had had no fluids for that entire time. He brought me home when he died. That was 4 years ago on the 28th of this month.

That's an inspiring story Lakshy and one that I imagine will always remain life changing for you. Thanks for sharing it.

My brother's death shifted my own consciousness profoundly. I always did believe in the eternal nature of life, but to be honest, had never tested it. Almost 5 years ago, he died unexpectedly in his sleep. We were only 11 months apart and truly the best of friends. As I said goodbye to his lifeless body after they had taken him to the hospital, he began speaking to me. I immediately stopped crying as his elation and joy were unmistakable. I could see him in my mind's eye doing a crazy little dance (something he often did while alive and he kept telling me that he could not explain to me in terms my human mind could understand, just how incredible his experience of leaving his body had been, but he wanted me to know, he was in pure bliss! He kept saying, "just wait til you get to do it, you'll see then what I mean."

Following that, I began receiving stunning signs from him, many of a physical nature. He died on the morning of Remembrance Day. To this day, I continue to find remembrance day poppies in the craziest of places...usually right on the heels of thinking about my brother. I also get birds behaving in unusual ways......sometimes swooping by and touching me or appearing out of nowhere as soon as a thought of him pops up. & lots of other stuff that is profoundly sysnchronisitic in nature.

Even those who profess to have no belief in an afterlife find these occurrences amazing and difficult to explain away.

Anyway, the signs were so amazing that I decided to write a book about it all. Throughout the process my brother was with me and continued to promise me that I'd find a publisher to publish it. True to his word, in Feb. of this year, O Books offered me a contract to publish.

This experience has catapulted me into a whole new way of being and of looking at life. Things no longer stress me out and my overall level of joy has absolutely exploded....it's been really wonderful to truly experience first hand the fact that life is eternal and there is no such thing as death.

[Lakshyayidhi Lakshmihi]

that was beautiful, thanks for sharing inri.

[Midwinter Mist]

I don't know what to believe but I can tell you what I'd like there to be.

I would like to think I am a spirit with a body and will pass on to some kind of astral, spiritual plain. I do not want to reincarnate and return to a world I mostly hate and as somebody I wouldn't want to be, but I sure don't like the idea of there being absolutely nothing. As I exist, I can't imagine the idea of not existing (not that I can't imagine the possibility, but that I can't imagine what it would be like because it would be nothing), which is obviously something no human can exactly imagine as it contradicts existing. Of course, if that is the case, I won't have to worry so much as I won't know, see, hear or feel a thing, whatever that's like...

I usually just picture black, but there wouldn't even be that. *shivers*

[Vibration]

Originally Posted by dream

I wanted to get your thoughts on what you thought about death. (It is all contingent on the fact that you have some spirituality of course). Specifically the honor or credit to how one dies. I had this thought that I wonder if when you die the other side commends your death the same way we commend a impacting life.

The bible says that there are witnesses in heaven who cheer us on as we run this race called life (Hebrews). Then there is another scripture (that scares me) which says even the demons know our reputation on earth as good or bad (James). Then there is the book of Job where God asked Satan where he was and he said roaming throughout the earth. Both satan and God had a conversation about Job (Which shows me that both God and Satan knows us by name and our reputation.

Anyway, if you die by fighting a terminal disease I would think the other side must cheer you one when you meet them at death, or if you died fighting for the rights of others. You would have a reputation of Hero on the other side. I also imagined someone on the mission to Mars uncovering great info and there be a resume of sorts if they died. "Wow I always wanted to meet you the first to die in space". Just as many of us would meet the oldest in death and have respect in wanting to shake the hands of a person who....The process of dying must be difficult as well as others who have died before will say "You made it", no easy task, when we finally pass from this world to the next.

Of course I encourage everyone to enjoy their lives but I was just wondering what your thoughts are on death. This is actually therapeutic for me as I dread the topic but have matured to write a thread on it. (Progress for me). So what do you think?

It's not our manner of death that concerns those on the other side, but our manner of life. There are those on the other side who weep at the challenges we go through, over the guilt we sometimes heap on ourselves. They take our affairs very seriously. These same people weep for joy at our accomplishments as though watching their hero win the game.

These people who are so concerned about us are our mothers and fathers, grandmothers and grandfathers, great grandfathers, and close friends, going back many generations. They are all of our earthly relatives, and are very concerned about us, and for good reason!

It is true what you say about God, Lucifer and many others having intimate knowledge about us. We all share a past that covers many, many thousands of years, a past they haven't forgotten, as we have. But not too long after we die this past starts comming back to us, and eventually we remember everything. It starts comming back in stages after we pass into the spirit world. We immediately know we're home, and a million things come to mind which we never knew in life, which afterwards feels as though we've always known but somehow forgotten for a time. This is all quite intentional.

The joyful reunion that awaits us, no matter how poorly our life may have turned out, is utterly Indescribable.

[VinceG]

A friend of mine threw himself off a seven story parking garage. One of the more harrowing experiences of my life. It caught me completely off guard. I walked around in a stupor for days.

Being an atheist, I don't believe souls live on after death. So my resolution after his death was to let his spirit live on in me. I would live enough life for the both of us, and he could rest in peace knowing someone out there knew and understood and loved him.

[dream]

Oh my. I am truly moved by everyone's account. Honestly I did not think I would be as affected by your posts as I am.

Inri, I went to your site. I can see the close bond and it is so nice to still have him around being his usual self. I was smiling when you wrote about his signature dance

Midwinter Mist I would not want to reincarnate either! Once I am done, I am done.....I just thought unless I was given "Angelship" to help others and who knows if that's gonna happen! lol.

Vibration Your post has no earthy descriptive word. Beautiful seems so shallow. You speak so confidently as though you have been there! Did you have a near death experience or are you extremely intuitive?

VinceG "I would live enough life for the both of us, and he could rest in peace knowing someone out there knew and understood and loved him." This is how everyone should live for their loved ones. It is poetic and very endearing. Thanks for sharing.

*I would love to hear more. Please tag on if you have read this thread.

[rhoeda]

Interesting views here.
Just thought I'd ask this:
What makes you think that death is dying? Could it be that we are all now dead(spiritually) and death is a birth?
I don't think death is too different than life....merely a different dimention of our consciousness .

[dream]

I was just on a similar post and Midniteshowers posted this article by Erin. Click Here.
Honestly it was pretty good.

[Curtis2011]

Originally Posted by Mounds

You got it!

Lol... At least you are optimistic about it.


Hey Mounds. I have an idea.

I'll bet you $20 in next-lifetime currency that we will both die, then someday return to this planet in different bodies (reincarnation).

So if we both die and come back at the same time someday in the future, you owe me $20.

If we die and don't come back, I owe you $20.

I don't think I can lose this bet

[Lakshyayidhi Lakshmihi]

Originally Posted by Curtis2011

I don't think I can lose this bet

How on earth will you remember who was whom and what $20 was? Your brain is still going to rot when you die.

[inri]

Originally Posted by dream

Oh my. I am truly moved by everyone's account. Honestly I did not think I would be as affected by your posts as I am.

Inri, I went to your site. I can see the close bond and it is so nice to still have him around being his usual self. I was smiling when you wrote about his signature dance

Midwinter Mist I would not want to reincarnate either! Once I am done, I am done.....I just thought unless I was given "Angelship" to help others and who knows if that's gonna happen! lol.

Vibration Your post has no earthy descriptive word. Beautiful seems so shallow. You speak so confidently as though you have been there! Did you have a near death experience or are you extremely intuitive?

VinceG "I would live enough life for the both of us, and he could rest in peace knowing someone out there knew and understood and loved him." This is how everyone should live for their loved ones. It is poetic and very endearing. Thanks for sharing.

*I would love to hear more. Please tag on if you have read this thread.

Dream...thanks so much for visiting my site and your kind words. You're right all these stories being shared are beautiful and very profound. No doubt, Reading them does take us into the realm of the heart. This was the reason I wrote my book about my experiences with my brother. I knew how profoundly my communications with him had affected me and I wanted to help others to believe that they could find their own avenues of communication with their own deceased loved ones. such beliefs and experiences have the ability to completely transform the grieving process.

One thing I did find was that when my belief and expectation are fully activated, I almost start buzzing with anticipation that a sign will be coming soon....and then, almost like clockwork...I'll find a poppy lying on the sidewalk or I'll turn on the radio and there will be his favorite song. It's like the entire universe contributes to help him communicate.

I love it that you are able to hold & own your personal perspective and yet open your mind (and heart) to the experiences of others. Very impressive!

[inri]

Originally Posted by rhoeda

Interesting views here.
Just thought I'd ask this:
What makes you think that death is dying? Could it be that we are all now dead(spiritually) and death is a birth?
I don't think death is too different than life....merely a different dimention of our consciousness .

That's an interesting shift of perspective and one that is likely closer to the truth when you really look at it!

One of the first conversations I had with my brother, the day after he passed, he told me that his physical life now resembled a dream. He said that he was still 'himself' and yet he could also access the expanded version of himself, experience complete oneness and every incarnation he had every experienced, all simultaneously. He continues to stress that the nature of his new dimension or realm is difficult to accurately describe as the physical mind can only process information that applies to this realm....but incredible bliss and joy (at least what I understand that to be) do seem to be a part of his experience.

Much of what he conveys to me about the nature of the afterlife realm comes in chunks....concepts that get sifted down throughout the course of a day, for example. He also send me little jokes that tell me he's still the same crazy guy he always was....very comforting.

but yes, overall I get the sense that he has expanded in consciousness from what he knew himself to be here and that in this expansion he feels incredibly free.

[Vibration]

Originally Posted by dream

Oh my. I am truly moved by everyone's account.
Vibration Your post has no earthy descriptive word. Beautiful seems so shallow. You speak so confidently as though you have been there! Did you have a near death experience or are you extremely intuitive?

A) Many people have been there (but not all the way in) and returned. To go in all the way and taste the love there, to feel HIM there, and then to be forced to return back to earth, would be inhumane to say the least; earth is a living hell in comparison, and any normal human being would immediately kill themselves for even a change to return. So it's not permitted for one to return if they have fully entered the world of spirits.

YouTube - Pam Reynold's Near Death Experience

YouTube - BBC: PAM SEES GOD. NDE Pam Reynold. Amazing! Full version!

YouTube - Near Death Experience: This was Paradise

YouTube - Near Death Experience: 'This was Paradise' - Part 2

YouTube - Near Death Experience - Meets God

There is literally overwhelming evidence for this.

B) Sometimes very young children have a memory of where they came from before they were born, but as they get older the memory fades, and they later think nothing of it, chalking it up to imagination.

I had such a memory when I was young, and although I don't now have that memory like I had it then, I remember remembering, if that makes any sense. And what I remember is utterly indescribable and I cannot share it. But I've come to understand a lot of things by thinking about it.