The Problem With GOD!

[Mitalp]

We make GOD out to be one who has control over us. Some what a parental figure, who expects us to do certain things a certain way. We believe he’s going to punish us if we don’t do things his way. We think GOD is above us, separate from us. When in reality we are one with GOD. He wants just one thing and that is for us to live as happily as we can. Doing only things that make us happy. Once you start doing only things that make you happy, you’ll see how GOD partners up with you to help you along the way.

Contrary to the common belief, He does not punish. The pain we feel as well as our happiness is a result of what we think. If you think GOD is going to punish you for a committing a sin and something happens in your life to hurt you, your automatically going to think GOD punished you. In actuality you attracted this pain to your life because you were awaiting a punishment. Your mind was set on punishment form the guilt you felt by committing that “sin.”

According to the Law Of Attraction, your negative guilty feelings will attract a negative situation into your life, and vice versa. We punish our self because we feel guilt. We feel guilt because our actions are not in alignment with what we really want.

When we feel guilty about things we do, we fear God. Fear comes from a lack of trust and if you do not trust Him, how can he help you? He can’t! It’s hard to help someone who does not have faith in you.

The problems is not God, the problem is the way we see him. See him as your bestfriend who wants to help bring only joy and happiness in your life. Take responsibilty for your feelings of guilt and fear in relation to the pain they bring into your life. Get in alignment with what you really want. Then the problem will be solved.

[Akashic_Librarian]

Ok i was excited by the post but then when I saw I had to link to your site...well...thats not the way to get clicks...its advertising!

[Mark Lapierre]

I'd be interested to know how many people on these forums actually still believe in the All-powerful, vengeful Christian God. (because if the number is as low as I suspect, this is a clear case of preaching to the converted)

And thanks Mitalp, for editing your post to include the entire text rather than just a link

[judge45]

It's a fine line between offering something of value to assist others and posting crap to link to your site.

Which one is it, I can't tell

As for God, to believe in anything that is above you, means you give up some control and giving up some control really means you have no control and that means life is pointless as you are at the mercy of a higher/outside force at any given time.

It's cool if that force is you and only you in an SR sense, but something outside your true self with control over you is a crap way to live.

Just my OP NO REFUNDS

HTH

Jeff

[Mark Lapierre]

Originally Posted by judge45

...but something outside your true self with control over you is a crap way to live.

Doesn't sounds so crap if that "something outside" is much more powerful that you and does all it can to help you. Mind you that's a pretty big "if"

[Amadeus]

"Happy" is too broad of a term. I sort of disagree with this philosphy. I agree that God already puts the laws in place, and that he is not looking down at every decision we make in order to judge. We do a specific cause and we are going to get an effect. However, I don't think he wants us to necessarily be "happy". I think he wants us to give, give, and give more (Steve states that this person would be a lightworker). When we give, good things will happen to us in return, thus making us happy.
Let's face it, I am happy sitting down eating a pizza, but is it the right thing? No, I believe this is taking. If I feed my body healthy foods, and I am giving to my flesh. My body will give back to me good health.

[Lallymac]

God is life. There is no he/she. God and life are the same. It is the life force energy, universal intelligence, every 'thing' and all the spaces in between. It is in us, surrounding us, everywhere.It is the alpha and omega. The beginning and the end. Everything that has been, is, and ever will be.
Lallymac

[judge45]

Originally Posted by Mark Lapierre

Doesn't sounds so crap if that "something outside" is much more powerful that you and does all it can to help you. Mind you that's a pretty big "if"

So this something that is outside of me and is very powerful and is doing all it can to help me is not me, but likes me enough to aid me in a good way, whenever I need it, but only for my overall betterment???

That is a form of control that is outside of me and for me that is a crap way to live. It's crap because it's an existance of fear.

Maybe crap is too harsh a word, but it seems very limiting

HTH

Jeff

[Simmiah]

Hmm...

I have read this so it's not my personal opinion as much as re-stated stuff I resonate strongly with put here. I do think you possibly posting to the converted here.

As we evolve our concept of God changes. There was a recent interesting discussion on God & how we view God & ourselves....someone cited a Chopra book..others Hawkins (who I resonate with..though I liked what was posted about Chopra)..

& well those..who are not ready to view God as other than their own projections.. they aren't ready. I spent some time with people prior through an ex of mine like this & trust me, haha, nothing I said was heard as I was viewed as a heathen (no kidding..seriously).

So anyways, God is like what we think of ourselves. For me personally right now God is benign, benevolent, all knowing, & above..& outside of me. As I've read we begin to see God in ourselves more ...& God in others but I have only had brief glimpses of that level of reality myself.

Toodles!

[Mark Lapierre]

Originally Posted by Amadeus

Let's face it, I am happy sitting down eating a pizza, but is it the right thing?

Is that happiness, or pleasure?

Originally Posted by judge45

So this something that is outside of me and is very powerful and is doing all it can to help me is not me, but likes me enough to aid me in a good way, whenever I need it, but only for my overall betterment???

That is a form of control that is outside of me and for me that is a crap way to live. It's crap because it's an existance of fear.

Maybe crap is too harsh a word, but it seems very limiting

Where's the fear? I would understand if the aid was withheld unless you did what God wants, but that's not what we're considering here. So there is nothing to fear. The idea is that God helps you as long as you don't prevent him from doing so. Thus the only fear is the irrational fear of allowing something better than you to lead you. Irrational because no harm will befall you, so there is nothing to fear.

It's the opposite of limiting; it provides you with opportunities which you, being a simple human, wouldn't ordinarily have available to you. All you have to do is say, "Yes, show me the path and I'll walk it." And suddenly you find yourself flying.

So I don't understand how this belief leads to an existence of fear, or how it's limiting. Crap is fine, it conveys your emotion effectively

Please note that this isn't my belief, and in fact I don't believe it has much basis in reality; there are a vast number of assumptions which can't be proven or disproved. I just find it interesting to consider the possibilities.

Originally Posted by Simmiah

So anyways, God is like what we think of ourselves. For me personally right now God is benign, benevolent, all knowing, & above..& outside of me. As I've read we begin to see God in ourselves more ...& God in others but I have only had brief glimpses of that level of reality myself.

I've always considered the view of humans created in God's image to be extremely egotistical. We consider God a being of limitless power, yet somehow he's still like us?! I do more readily tolerate the idea that we're all part of God, albeit in a much much more limited form. But like God only in the same way that a grain of sand is like a volcano.

[Greg]

Uhhh.. yeah. Thank you for sharing that. When I got down to the end of your post you just posted an ad to your site. While I appreciate you trying to help others and sharing your thoughts, I would appreciate it (and I think others would too) not to use articles as a teaser to get hits to your site.

[Akashic_Librarian]

When I say God I am talking about the Life Force of the Universe, I also use words like Tao, Chi, Energy, Universe, Consciousness, Superconsciousness.

Now a wise man namd Lao Tzu once said:

The fish trap exists because of the fish. Once you've gotten the fish you can forget the trap. The rabbit snare exists because of the rabbit. Once you've gotten the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words exist because of meaning. Once you've gotten the meaning, you can forget the words. Where can I find a man who has forgotten words so I can talk with him?

[Nneka]

Is it really a problem with God or a problem with your concept of God? All over these boards people are talking about subjective reality and the idea that there is only one consciousness. What do you think that one consciousness is?