Personal Development for Smart People Forums

Personal Development for Smart PeopleTM Forums

 

Go Back   Personal Development for Smart People Forums > Personal Development > Spirituality, Consciousness, & Awareness

Spirituality, Consciousness, & Awareness Spirituality, beliefs, the nature of reality, consciousness, awareness, metaphysics, truth, philosophy, religion


Welcome to the Personal Development for Smart People Forums, the place for lively, intelligent discussion of all personal growth issues -- physical, mental, financial, social, emotional, spiritual, and more.

You're currently viewing as a guest, which gives you limited read-only access. By joining our free community, you'll be able to post your own messages, access many members-only features, see the new messages posted since your last visit, and of course remove this header message. Registration is fast, simple, and free, so please join today.

If you arrived here from a search engine, you may want to explore the main site first, which includes hundreds of deep and insightful articles on a variety of personal development topics.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-22-2007, 12:50 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 225
judge45 is on a distinguished road
Default The Center of the Universe.

Where is the center of the universe?

It's the same place where all the power is, all the joy, love and most importantly the awareness and the truth.

It's you baby right now!

You exist right now, right here and no where else. That's why no future, past or other person is as important as you. 6 billion other humans on the planet, but there is only one you. That is so defining, so powerful and pretty darn scary sometimes too

Do you love someone? When that person is in your present moment awareness, the connection is so strong right? The love is amazing right? That's because they are with you at the center of the universe, the center of all things, your present moment awareness (PMA) actually defines how special every moment is, because it's the center of everything.

When that loved one is not with you, you still love them, but not like when they are with you, because you get to share your PMA, the center of the universe with them.

Even if you're alone in a forrest, that's the center of the universe. In a huge crowd at the football game, surrounded by 50,000 humans, the center of the universe is right there in you, no one else, no where else.

PMA is the most important thing there is, how you think in the moment, how you feel in the moment, affects the moment. Everything revolves around your PMA and is created by your beliefs that exist in the PMA.

Over the years I've spent a lot of time regreting the past, fearing the future and neglecting my PMA and not accepting that I'm the center of the universe.That may sound selfish, because it is, but not in an ego way, but in a truth way, in an acceptance of true self way.

Nothing is more important than you, you are all that matters, but you only ever exist in your present moment awareness, so put all your love and desires there and they will grow there.

That's all you can do and all you have to do. Nothing else matters.

HTH

Jeff
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-22-2007, 05:01 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 237
SecretSeven is on a distinguished road
Default

Ok, well you said that I am the center of the universe. Where does that put you? Wouldn't that make you the center of the universe and not me?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-22-2007, 05:32 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 510
ethereal is on a distinguished road
Default

Everybody is the center of the universe, because the universe is infinite, so its centers are infinite as well. No matter where you go, you are still at the center of the universe -- so that means everywhere is the center, or rather there are an infinite number of centers. So both of you are right

Lol judge, I thought PMA meant "Positive Mental Attitude" at first too much Napoleon Hill for me
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2007, 02:11 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 255
DoAnyOfYouExist is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ethereal View Post
Everybody is the center of the universe, because the universe is infinite, so its centers are infinite as well. No matter where you go, you are still at the center of the universe -- so that means everywhere is the center, or rather there are an infinite number of centers. So both of you are right

Lol judge, I thought PMA meant "Positive Mental Attitude" at first too much Napoleon Hill for me
Bingo bango give this man a prize.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-31-2007, 08:18 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 157
ming is on a distinguished road
Default

you are both wrong. I am the I and only.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-31-2007, 05:28 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 140
MindReality is on a distinguished road
Default

Time and space is an illusion. The entire universe is projected from consciousness. We are all centers of consciousness. Each of us experience the entire universe as a projection from our consciousness. We experience each other as being apart from each other within consciousness, but we are all really one, here and now.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-31-2007, 09:24 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 255
DoAnyOfYouExist is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MindReality View Post
Time and space is an illusion. The entire universe is projected from consciousness. We are all centers of consciousness. Each of us experience the entire universe as a projection from our consciousness. We experience each other as being apart from each other within consciousness, but we are all really one, here and now.
established over and over in many different arrangements of words....still saying absolutely nothing because no one ever elaborates so others can fully grasp, without experiencing for their self.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2007, 01:08 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 140
MindReality is on a distinguished road
Default

Lol. I thought the people here in this forums are conscious enough to grasp it.

Anyway here's my article that elaborates about what it means that we are all one and that we are all centers of consciousness projecting the universe.

One Consciousness which Everything exists From
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2007, 01:26 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 255
DoAnyOfYouExist is on a distinguished road
Default

I already know and have experienced all of that. My question is what good does it do you to know this. It has brought me more headache then anything.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2007, 02:55 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 140
MindReality is on a distinguished road
Default

Oh there is a lot of good in knowing that. You'll be able to be aware that the people that show up in your life do not show up by chance. You no longer treat interactions lightly because you know that what you relate with someone else, you are actually relating to yourself.

Any person that enters into your sphere of experience is because you attracted that person in, and that person has attracted you into theirs. You never have to feel as if you don't deserve to be in anybody's presence because if they are there with you, it means you have every right to be there. It is co-intention that results in both of you entering into each other's sphere of experience in the first place.

I am another you, and you are another me. We are all one mind and one body. The idividual cell must be taken cared of and all other cells must be taken cared of in order for each other to experience the highest well being.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 04-02-2007, 06:56 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 172
starlet is on a distinguished road
Default

So my parents were wrong! They always told me to stop thinking I was the center of the Universe! Man, kids are so much smarter then adults!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 04-02-2007, 07:33 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 140
MindReality is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by starlet View Post
So my parents were wrong! They always told me to stop thinking I was the center of the Universe! Man, kids are so much smarter then adults!
Of course. I always knew I was smarter than my parents when I was a child.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2007, 11:02 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 237
SecretSeven is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by judge45 View Post
Where is the center of the universe?

It's the same place where all the power is, all the joy, love and most importantly the awareness and the truth.

It's you baby right now!

Even if you're alone in a forrest, that's the center of the universe. In a huge crowd at the football game, surrounded by 50,000 humans, the center of the universe is right there in you, no one else, no where else.

Nothing is more important than you, you are all that matters, but you only ever exist in your present moment awareness, so put all your love and desires there and they will grow there.

That's all you can do and all you have to do. Nothing else matters.

HTH

Jeff
I dissagree with that. What you are basically saying is that humans are at the center of the universe. You say: You are at the center of the universe"..well if that were true every human would be at the center of the universe. People live all over the universe, so the center of the universe would be all accross the world. There can only be one center of the universe.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2007, 11:45 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 909
ZHereford is on a distinguished road
Default

The center of the universe is where you think it is.

It is a matter of perspective.

The universe is infinite so it is all relative.
__________________
www.essentiallifeskills.net
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2007, 12:31 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,061
Mark Lapierre is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to Mark Lapierre
Default

For those of you thinking in literal terms, ignore the title. Jeff isn't talking about the centre of the universe in spacial terms. And you can also ignore the slightly metaphysical tone of his words. He's talking about the most important person in your life. You. And the most important time. Now.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2007, 12:52 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 255
DoAnyOfYouExist is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SecretSeven View Post
I dissagree with that. What you are basically saying is that humans are at the center of the universe. You say: You are at the center of the universe"..well if that were true every human would be at the center of the universe. People live all over the universe, so the center of the universe would be all accross the world. There can only be one center of the universe.
Disagree all you want SS, the universe is infinite is it not? Infinity has infinite centers. Sometimes I wonder about the people on this forum. These concepts are NOT that hard to understand. I guess I have seen many things that others have not yet had access to. I must accept this. I must be greatful that I can grasp all these concepts so easily. I am sorry it is more difficult for many of you.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2007, 01:40 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,061
Mark Lapierre is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to Mark Lapierre
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DoAnyOfYouExist View Post
Disagree all you want SS, the universe is infinite is it not? Infinity has infinite centers. Sometimes I wonder about the people on this forum. These concepts are NOT that hard to understand. I guess I have seen many things that others have not yet had access to. I must accept this. I must be greatful that I can grasp all these concepts so easily. I am sorry it is more difficult for many of you.
It's difficult because people confuse and distort their messages by saying things that either mislead, or worse, have no real content at all. Filtering through that takes effort and practice. Some people haven't yet had the required practice or put in the required effort.

It's the same all over the world, not just on this forum. And it will be the same on any forum that comes along, online or offline, as long as there are those who don't think enough before speaking/writing, and those who speak/write in an unclear or misleading way. (that's just a general comment btw, I don't think Jeff's post was misleading)

Also, no-one is perfect, so when misunderstandings happen, if we truly desire to help each other we'll do our best to help other people understand what we're trying to say, do our best to understand them.

However, SS does have a point, though I'm not sure (s)he is aware of it. While I am most important person in the universe from my point of view, that doesn't mean I should ignore everyone else. From an objective reality point of view, even though the universe is infinite, my universe is finite; its boundaries are defined by the limits of my perception. Thus, my universe has a centre, me, the source of my perception. We have to be aware that everyone else is the centre of their universe, and act accordingly even as we act in our own interests.

From a subjective reality point of view, since All-is-One you are the most important being in the universe, and by caring for yourself, you care for others. However, by harming others, you harm yourself.

Problems arise when our own interests are detrimental to others. When we do things that help ourselves, but hurt other people. So, seen from an objective reality point of view, Jeff's statement that nothing else matters is incorrect.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2007, 06:08 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 11
zoowise is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by judge45 View Post
Nothing is more important than you, you are all that matters, but you only ever exist in your present moment awareness, so put all your love and desires there and they will grow there.

That's all you can do and all you have to do. Nothing else matters.

HTH

Jeff
That is so true, what is more important than you? Nothing.

Disappear from this world and nothing left matters because it doesn't affect you, you are gone, if you think it matters, then you're still here.

Cheese

Zooy
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Spiritual Enlightenment: The Damnedest Thing > anyone read it? Royce_aus Spirituality, Consciousness, & Awareness 52 06-02-2008 06:49 PM
Why do some people say "The Universe" instead of "God"? Tabs Spirituality, Consciousness, & Awareness 19 01-02-2007 02:00 AM
Single Ego or Multiple Ego Universe impaul99 Spirituality, Consciousness, & Awareness 17 12-14-2006 05:07 AM
The Universe loves games (like I-M) Frans Intention-Manifestation 6 12-04-2006 09:22 PM
The origin of the universe Zach Spirituality, Consciousness, & Awareness 35 11-22-2006 12:10 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0
Copyright © 2008 by Pavlina LLC