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Old 03-14-2007, 04:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I might have some silly questions...

1st silly question...If "I" created everything, why would I create arbitrary things?? Why would I create things that really have no use to "me"?
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Old 03-14-2007, 05:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Under a subjective reality model, where you are a part of the creator, there really isn't anything that is arbitrary... If you notice something, then it is a use, however insignificant that use may seem.

In models where there is only one avatar, then if you are not conscious of something, it does not exist... Since noticing something is using it, nothing can exist that is not used.

In models where there are more than one avatar, simply because you are not conscious of something through a particular perspective does not mean that it is meaningless to some other perspective of consciousness.
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Old 03-14-2007, 05:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Okay...another question, So if I don't like someone..I need to look in myself to see what I don't like right? Actually, I work with someone I don't like but since I learned about SR I was thinking she is not really "real"..I made her up so she bothers me less now...so I guess I just need to remember she is me really..(I really wish I could get my thoughts out better when I type)...I don't think that made sense..Okay..she is a part or me that I made up...right? What really helps me with that idea is I care less what others think of me now...because they are really me and I love myself Ion't think bad about me or think I am stupid...
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Old 03-14-2007, 06:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Okay...another question, So if I don't like someone..I need to look in myself to see what I don't like right? Actually, I work with someone I don't like but since I learned about SR I was thinking she is not really "real"..I made her up so she bothers me less now...so I guess I just need to remember she is me really..(I really wish I could get my thoughts out better when I type)...I don't think that made sense..Okay..she is a part or me that I made up...right? What really helps me with that idea is I care less what others think of me now...because they are really me and I love myself Ion't think bad about me or think I am stupid...
I am also very new to all of this, so part of this post is me working out my own very new thoughts.

I feel as if I am part of the creator and that we are all aspects of a single creative force. The goal from this perspective is to shed our egos and to rejoin source or conciousness (transcendence). I have read that every relationship we experience can be our practice. When you meet someone and have 'problems' with them, it isn't YOU having the problem, it's your ego. When someone threatens your ego in some way, they 'rub you the wrong way'. This is a growth opportunity. You need to examine YOUR feelings and figure out why the ego is threatened. Then you can either try to change the relationship, leave the relationship or accept that it is what it is and let go of the irritation.

I don't know about feeling bad or feeling good about yourself, this is a point I am going to have to work through. It seems to me that if you feel bad about ANYBODY, you feel bad about yourself. But my personal experience is that you cannot MAKE 'yourself' feel good about everybody else until you truly internalize that they are you. We are all aspects of a single conciousness. The 'I' that created 'you' is the 'I' that created 'me', but really, there is no you and me. Just 'us' trying to get back together and we created these different aspects in that effort. A coin has two sides. Each is a valid face of the coin. Separate them and you don't really have anything. It is as we are the different faces of a 6 billion sided coin. That isn't that great an analogy, either.

Trust me, inside my head all of this stuff makes total sense. I just can't seem to get it out of my head very clearly.

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Old 03-14-2007, 06:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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No, she is not part of you. But your relationship with her IS part of you. However she behaves, you have total choice over how you respond to her. You cannot make her "disappear" (unless you like the idea of 20+ years behind bars) but you can work on your relationship with her. If it doesn't work out you can agree to disagree. We cannot be friends with everyone - and we cannot expect everyone to be friends with us.

Believing that you are somehow "responsible" for the manifestation of this unpleasant woman in your life can only lead to unnecessary guilt feelings and wasted effort.
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I feel as if I am part of the creator and that we are all aspects of a single creative force. The goal from this perspective is to shed our egos and to rejoin source or conciousness (transcendence). I have read that every relationship we experience can be our practice. When you meet someone and have 'problems' with them, it isn't YOU having the problem, it's your ego. When someone threatens your ego in some way, they 'rub you the wrong way'. This is a growth opportunity. You need to examine YOUR feelings and figure out why the ego is threatened. Then you can either try to change the relationship, leave the relationship or accept that it is what it is and let go of the irritation.
Let me share this. You're not trying to get rid of anything or join anything together. All you have to do in this world is experience what is there. Anything you make an enemy of or judge as wrong or not good enough stays with you.

The ego is the conscious mind trying very hard to be creator. It doesn't want to be gotten rid of. It wants to be accepted as part of the self that it is. It is you and it makes great blunders sometimes. Why? "Creator" is not it's job.
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Dharma, the observer in you can make friends with the ego in you. They can cooperate, you know? I just have a feeling you knew that already.
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I thought I was the creator....I thought I am the only one that truly exists and everyone else is an illusion I made up.....
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