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I just ran across the following free audio recordings with Dr. David Hawkins. I know there are others out there who are studying his work (hi ethereal!) so I thought I would pass them along. They are fabulous! Hawkins recordings Who else out there has resonated with Hawkins? Anyone know of other free Hawkins audio recordings or other resources? I just can not get enough of his work............ |
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Thanks so much for the link! Actually I just recently went back to Hawkins after reading his Power vs. Force about a year ago. I'm reading his latest book Truth vs. Falsehood right now If I see anything around I will come back & post to tell everyone about any free mp3s & such. |
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Glad to see people enjoying the Doc's work!!! I am so happy Some more free Dr. Hawkins related resources: Forum - forum dedicated to Dr. Hawkins' teachings, as well as some members who can do calibrations. Please join and discuss with me! (I'm ethereal on there as well SpiritualWiki - Weblinks - large directory of Dr. Hawkins related information/audio clips/links. Unfortunately, it is in German, but the English translation (courtesy of Google) is below: Translated version of http://de.spiritualwiki.org/Hawkins/Weblinks DrHawkinsDevotionalDiscussionGroup : Dr. Hawkins Devotional Discussion Group - good discussion group, especially because under "Files" it contains notes from all of Dr. Hawkins' recent lectures and satsangs. Lots of useful information! drhawkinsgroup : Dr. Hawkins Discussion Group - another useful discussion group, also contains some interesting files (but not as much as the one above) Torrents: If you are interested, there are various torrents of Dr. Hawkins' work online if you search diligently enough. Peruse at your own discretion Program Guide - Every thursday afternoon (5:30pm Pacific, 8:30pm Eastern) there is a discussion on Paltalk on Dr. Hawkins' work. Also, this week on Sunday (3/11) at 5:30pm Pacific there is a special discussion with one of Dr. Hawkins' close associates, Lou Marzeles. Not sure if it's ongoing or just this week, as I just found out about it. Spiritual Exercises, Dr. David Hawkins, ACIM, Online Conference, Offering Love, and Fear of Death - exercises related to Dr. Hawkins' work taught by Ellen Sutherland (also part of ACIMgather) Ellen & Jane - audio archives of talks given by Ellen and Jane of ACIMgather Myswizard - another spiritual teacher dedicated to Dr. Hawkins' work, lots of good articles Sir David R. Hawkins, M.D., Ph.D. - (Official?) Home page of Dr. Hawkins. You can sign up for free satsangs and paid lectures every 2 months if you can travel to his hometown in Sedona, AZ. Especially check out audio samples of his satsangs: Sir David R. Hawkins, M.D., Ph.D. http://achieveradio.com/archplayer.php?showname=The%20Happy%20Healers%20Ar chives%2010/3/2005&ShowURL=http://audio.achieveradio.com/alex/alex_10-3-05_ARCHIVE.mp3|D. Hawkins March 10, 2005 The Happy Healers Archives 10/3/2005 D. Hawkins is interviewed by Alex Hermosillo VeritasNetwork.com - web site with directory of local Dr. Hawkins study groups Veritas Publishing - Website to buy all of Dr. Hawkins' products Phew, that took awhile but if it helped anyone at all I am overjoyed Last edited by ethereal; 03-09-2007 at 06:02 PM. Reason: added some more links |
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And no, I haven't, but I plan to go to his September Lecture that is catered especially to newcomers who have not gone to one of his lectures/seminars (see September): Sir David R. Hawkins, M.D., Ph.D. The neat thing is, you can also go to the September Satsang during the same week, so it's almost like a 2-for-1 Quote:
David R. Hawkins, M.D., Ph.D. Frankly it shouldn't even matter, as long as his work helps improve your life | ||
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Source of Ph.D. David R. Hawkins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Admitted to the program on March 21, 1991, Hawkins received his Ph.D. in Health and Human Services on September 30, 1995 from Columbia Pacific University (CPU).[57] CPU was never accredited but it was at that time still approved to operate by the State of California. CPU's approval was revoked in December 1995 after a period of review and response following CPU's application in 1994; pending appeals, CPU was authorized to issue degrees through June 25, 1997 [58]. California's Deputy Attorney General Asher Rubin called CPU "a diploma mill" as well as "a consumer fraud, a complete scam" and a "phony operation" which offered "totally worthless [degrees]...to enrich its unprincipled promoters."[59][60] The Associated Press reported that the state had been trying to shut down the correspondence school almost from the day it opened, saying CPU "had virtually no academic standards."[61] Neither in his books nor on his website does Hawkins disclose the source of his Ph.D. In response, stating to be reinstalled into worldliness as an "ordinary man" after a decade of seclusion, Hawkins explains his engagement for an additional title due to the "credibility problem in society". Two "Dr. Dr.s" would grant "greater fire power to the truth" of what he has to say.[62] Hawkins' CPU faculty mentor was Sheldon Deal, a chiropractor who was a former chairman (1978 to 1983[63]) of the International College of Applied Kinesiology (ICAK). Chiropractic researchers who reviewed the studies that came out of ICAK concluded that “no valid conclusions could be drawn concerning their report of findings“.[64] where did he get his 'sir' title from ? Sealand? Last edited by dor; 03-09-2007 at 06:54 PM. | |
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I will say I am truly surprised at how much of what I already intuit in everyday life is expressed in Hawkin's book. I did thumb through the political party calibrations & was not surprised at how some of the extremists calibrated. I also thumbed through his calibrations of the distributions at different geographic locales & was not surprised to see my prior residence (I lived in Southern California an hour out of Hollywood) calibrate so poorly. I had many reasons to move one of which was the area was no longer resonating well with me. I have also found tremendously interesting was Hawkin's calibrations of various parts of the Bible. Ethereal: Thanks much for the links! I will be checking out the forum. I have quite a few questions such as: Does the wording of Hawkin's statements determine the calibration? I ask this because well, when I was looking at his calibration of "people who do not vote" (sorry not word for word but paraphrased) they calibrated below 200. That is interesting to me because many people do not vote such as..well, the host of this forum Steve! He has stated his reasons for not voting & they do not suggest fear or anger. Perhaps my question is not so much regarding wording but regarding what each category represents. Does the category of "people who do not vote" include Steve or... does it reference perhaps the group of people who are just apathetic or feel powerless in light of a larger problem? This is a question that has come up for me in reading Truth vs. Falsehood. Okay well that's all for now! Thanks again for the links! | |
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Simmiah, regarding your question: Yes, not only does it depend on the wording of the statements, but more importantly it depends on what is held in mind when calibrating, and that usually has a very wide disparity so these calibrations must be taken with a grain of salt and common sense. The Doc himself had been calibrating for over 20 years when he realized that he got different calibrations when accidentally holding in mind different things, i.e. an African elephant vs. a circus elephant. More specifically about the voting question, my intuition tells me that you've got it right: the calibration of "people who do not vote" is just an averaging of the consciousness mindset in that particular situation, i.e. when people think about not voting they usually think that it's too bothersome, or that it won't change the results anyway, etc., as opposed to the mindset of people who do vote would usually calibrate over 200+ just by being proactive. Thus it doesn't say anything about the people individually or even in aggregate, but just the consciousness level of people in that particular "situation". |
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Other than on the Rapid Fire blog, does Steve address his ideas on voting anywhere else? | |
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Hawkins is a mystery to me... Steve actually recommends his book Power vs Force and I got hold of it some time ago. If we are to take Hawkins' claims serious and not just categorize his theories as pure speculation then his method of calibration, applied kinesiology, must be sound. Does anyone here have any personal experience with applied kinesiology or know of any studies that backs it up? What about you, ethereal? |
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I personally don't, but I know many people online who do. It takes years of practice to get consistent results. The reason Dr. Hawkins and his audiences can consistently do calibrations is because of the spiritual energy field emanating from the Doc (similar to those emanating from other spiritual gurus) that, shall we say, "sets up" the conditions necessary for it to work. Those conditions are documented in the appendices of Dr. Hawkins' work, but I'll list some pointers: 1) the intention of the testers/testees with regards to the question at hand must be integrous. This is a biggie, because most "scientific studies" are those trying to either prove or disprove the theory, and by definition the intention behind it is already non-integrous (wanting the outcome to be a certain way). This is why skeptics who try to use it, cannot do so, and they just claim all of it is bunk because they themselves can't do it 2) both people must calibrate over 200 (further research shows that for more accurate results, both must be over 480 or so) This makes it pretty hard for anybody to use it and consistently get results As for proof, try tracking down one of Dr. Hawkins' lecture videos where he gets the audience to split up into pairs and calibrate things. There is no logical reason why everybody would get the same answer (especially with blind and double-blind tests), yet they still consistently do. |
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Just because Steve recommends it, doens't mean it's good! What does your own judgement tell you? Besides which Steve's since resinded that recommendation in a post recently. (Not a big deal, just mentioned in a thread that he didn't find Hawkin's framework very useful anymore). There's an excellent article here: re Hawkins work. David Hawkins - Power vs Force - A Critique I have problems with Hawkins scale - it doesn't make sense to me - and they way he applies it even less so. (How can America be at a low vibration, but as people go up the Corporate management scale they start vibrating and love, reason etc. I've met a hell of a lot of managers that don't!) How can there be all these managers vibrating at such wonderfully high levels, and just one person at a higher level raises the consciousness of so many people vibrating at lower levels, and yet he says the US is just over the tipping point. Doesn't make sense!) However, I have a lot of personal experience with applied kinesiology. I use it extensively and it can be very powerful depending on the clarity of the intention of the practitioner Unclear frames of reference and understanding create unclear results. Incidentally, what I have found is that you can only work with what is 'on your menu'. So when I've been working with a client and I ask what treatment their body wants, their body selects from what I have available. If my friend does the asking and has different treatments 'on her menu', then the body might ask for something different. It doesn't make it wrong - just that you can only ask questions within what you understand. The body goes for the closest thing available to what it needs. So if the only thing on someone's menu is that there is a scale from 0 - 1000 of consciousness, the body will work within that menu. If you take the view that 'There's more to the heavens and the Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies.' and you have some clear frames of reference about some of those philosophies, there is more to choose from using applied kinesiology! | |
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The breakdown of the chart made sense to me as did Hawkin's explanation of the Democrats being slightly lower due to their attempts to integrate below 200 concepts into their platform. Here's what is interesting for me in regards to this chart. Hawkins refers to the Conservatives as being the highest calibrated on the chart .. 415. Growing up I lived in Orange County which is referenced to consistently as the conservative stronghaven. I was exposed to both positive/negative of the majority's outlook politically & classified it under my category of "conservative." However, I don't believe that what I originally defined negatively as conservative is what Hawkins is referencing. Anyways I do wonder who/what he is referencing by conservative as he is not classifying Republicans as conservative. They are listed separately. I do believe Hawkins is calibrating each political group's platform/representation of themselves during the 2004 election. Like I wrote above I have had extensive experiences with some extremist liberals..who were very prideful & sometimes scary. So I am not surprised that they calibrated below 200. Actually it confirmed for me what my experience already told me. | |
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If you resonate more with the criticism of Dr. Hawkins and would like to find more you can do so by going to Wikipedia, typing in David Hawkins and scrolling down to the very bottom of the page. You can also do a search on "criticism of David Hawkins" in any search engine. There is quite a bit of stuff there, a lot of which I have read. I personally resonate much more with his work and find it fascinating though extremely challenging. I have read three of his books in the last month (Power vs Force, Transcending the Levels of Consciousness, Truth vs Falsehood) and am currently in the middle of The Eye of the I and am looking forward to I - Reality and Subjectivity. I have also listened to quite a few of his audio calls where he addresses the current issues of the day. The impact his work has had on my spiritual growth has been profound. I look forward to seeing where it leads me. It doesn't really matter if you resonate with the criticism, the work, a little of both or could really care less all together. Once you move beyond linear, dualistic thinking you realize that no position is right or wrong, and wherever you fall is the perfect place for you.................... |
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Dr. Hawkins practiced psychiatry for 50 YEARS in New York City. If you have read his autobiography, you will know that with the help of the Love of the Presence, his psychiatric ward became the largest in all of NYC, until the point when he decided to stop working in order to seek his spiritual Destiny. I don't understand why people even care if he is a doctor or knight or not. "By their fruits you shall know them", and Dr. Hawkins' fruits (his published work) is truly amazing. | |
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Hawkins is an absolutist, but what kind? Subjective Absolutism is not the same as objective absolutism. The nondual state is absolute truth by definition. Whereas any objective conception of absolute truth is a form of relative truth. You have subjective awareness which is all there is and encompasses everything according to advaita. Within the awareness, there are concepts which are always relative and dependent on duality. So the scale of consciousness basically measures the distance from the absolute SUBJECTIVE state of Reality. Because this is an "internal" subjective awareness, this is a far cry from fundamentalist absolutism. It's not a belief system. Just thought I'd clear that up. Btw, I'm more and more skeptical of the whole calibration technique. But more and more convinced that Hawkins and others are well intentioned about it. You can either believe everything Hawkins says, you can believe none of it, or do what I do and take the true with the questionable. The guy is utterly clear about advanced states of Englightenment and draws upon heavy life experiences to back everything up. He has lived what he's talking about, and from my visit to Sedona, his Presence is quite profound. Almost everyone in the room was walking on air at the end of the day. If you can't find any value from any of that, it's more a reflection of you than him. |
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But he does use numbers in his system which is objectively absolute. I'm not going to judge anyone on their ability to find or not find inspiration from Hawkins. His presence is subjective. Hawkins says many truthful things, or at least things that are currently accepted to be true in some schools of thought. The only information he gives that I haven't already heard in many other new age and Eastern philosophies are the "new truths" he has discovered through calibration. I know that he has spent a large amount of energy forcing Wiki to remove the "criticism" section of his wiki page and any links to skeptic or anti-cult articles done on him. The criticism part of the wikipage is part of many pages and simply said that calibration has not fared well with attempts to test it experimentally. That IS true. Why would he care about that? The 9 CD set I listened to was very inspirational at first. The middle and end parts gave me a negative vibe. So I can relate to both sides. |
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Ok. My 1st post ever. Have recently discovered "listening" on the computer while I tend to other matters. Found this site because Google indicated Free David Hawkins audios. Just returned from one of his seminars. Plan to attend a Hawkins discussion group Sunday in Santa Monica. Still have not located where on this site to listen. Next ...
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Hi, Came to this site because of Hawkins. Attended his Long Beach, CA seminar & will be joining others this sunday in Santa Monica for discussion. There are discussion groups world-wide. Thanks for making these available. His material really resonates. Sincerely, Mary
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