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03-05-2007, 08:39 AM
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 |  911 truth, what are YOU going to DO about it??!!
I was first bedazzled about it and thought it's another wacko conspiracy theory... then after watching the documentary and additional 911 explosion and squibs videos on youtube and google video started to have a rash of uncontrolled crying. Although i'm not an US citizen i think that similar mind control sabotage operations are executed all around the world by different nations and private interests. My question is this: will US citizens start to ask for truth to be uncovered and will you go to the point of court marshaling the traitors for high treason in your own country??!! Here is the video: 9/11 Mysteries (Full Length, High Quality) - Google Video You can also watch movie Painful Deceptions but it is essentially same as the first video: Painful Deceptions - Google Video Firefighters about explosions: YouTube - 9/11 - Firefighters NYFD say Explosives brought down Towers Loose change part 2 of video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=...&v=wJZlZP0vbCE 911 widows: YouTube - The Widows of 9-11 NIST Engineer saying there was no molten steel: YouTube - NIST Engineer John Gross denies molten steel at WTC site YouTube - Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex. Also you can search on youtube: "911 explosions" and "911 squibs" After fully watching videos pls. comment in this thread. Last edited by Mayo; 03-06-2007 at 04:20 PM. |
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03-05-2007, 12:15 PM
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| Stand down order
Also commission interview with Mineta about Chaney stand down order: YouTube - Cheney gave STAND DOWN ORDER |
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03-05-2007, 01:35 PM
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Yep.... it is very true.... The conspiracy theorists are not crazies. The NWO plan is unfolding in front of our very own eyes... Have you heard about.... the NORTH AMERICAN UNION yet? Yes... you heard me right, the NAU - (Canada/Mexico/USA) having their borders erased among much much more, it is being dubbed the "SPP" or "Security and Prosperity Partnership of NA" (SPP Home). And for those of you who have been around a little longer - its the same agenda as the CFR Council on Foreign Relations PLEASE view the following video, GET INFORMED: Pretext For The North American Union This is not a conspiracy, this is real, but why is it something that is not being widely covered by our media, why is it not something that we are actively engaging in conversations and debates about? It is in the open - for those who look for it, but it is still 'in the dark' of the public eye. What happens in 2-3 years? All of Canada/USA/Mexico have Biometrics RFID cards replacing their drivers license/passports, Same thing will happen in the EU - its already been declared by Tony Blair among others. Followed by another "911" to push us into a complete global government aka "NWO".... Next is the implantable chip (which is a funny one, because it is already being given to all military and governmental officials as well as psychiatric patients inside the US, as well as other test groups such as regular attenders of certain clubs. So this one may come sooner, afterall we still need a license to show to the cop when he pulls us over - so it may come hand in hand with the new RFID licenses) Last edited by tropicality; 03-05-2007 at 08:32 PM. |
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03-05-2007, 02:03 PM
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Thanks Tropicality. More and more i see what you could saw in futuristic movies like Brazil, Mad Max, different cyber-punk novels... Now what we have to choose is: will we live under velvet gloves tyrant countries, the earth that is teared by "XXX terrorism" that is masterminded by our own governments (here it will be EU government).... or we will account them and trial them for their atrocious crimes? |
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03-05-2007, 02:10 PM
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| Inside Job lyrics
(don henley/mike campbell) While you were sleeping They came and took it all away The lanes and the meadows The places where you used to play It was an inside job By the well-connected Your little protest Summarily rejected It was an inside job Like it always is Chalk it up to business as usual While we are dreaming This little island disappears While you are looking the other way Theyll take your right to own your own ideas And its an inside job Favors collected Your trusted servants Have left you unprotected It was an inside job Like it always is Just chalk it up To business as usual You think that youre so smart But you dont have a ************ing clue What those men up in the towers Are doing to me and you And theyll keep doin it and doin it And doin it and doin it And doin it and doin it And doin it and doin it Until we all wake up Wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up I know what Ive done wrong I am acquainted with the night I know how hard it is To always walk out in the light And its an inside job To learn about forgiving Its an inside job To hang on to the joy of living They know the road by which you came They know your mothers maiden name And what you had for breakfast And what youve hidden in the mattress Insect politics Indifferent universe Bang your head against the wall But apathy is worse Its an inside job Its an inside job Its an inside job Yeh, yeah Its an inside job Its an inside job Its an inside job Its an inside job Its an inside job Its an inside job Wake up.... Last edited by Mayo; 03-08-2007 at 03:17 PM. |
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03-05-2007, 04:15 PM
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i think there is a little truth, not a lot, in these 'conspiracy theories' i thought it was very odd that popular mechanics published a debunking article some years ago - it seemed out of place and the author was connected to various politically interested organizations... more plausible than conspiracy theories is the very provable: Israel and pro-Israel forces had foreknowledge about the attack and let it happen: The High-Fivers- by Justin Raimondo Israel and 9/11: New Report Connects the Dots- by Justin Raimondo but even if that were not true...what the admin, and AIPAC's lobby did after is more important: ignored the reasons for the attack, lied about them, and used it as an excuse to attack israel's enemy: iraq. Regarding a north american union -that's not conpiriacy theory - its a pretty out in the open plan - that's why bush is ignoring securing our borders and flooding the country with mexican immigrants - realities on the ground. |
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03-05-2007, 08:37 PM
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I personally believe there were the two streams: One: the president and the cabinet(Dick Chaney etc.) that knew about the attacks (there is one interesting interview where Bush on the question of if he knew something about 911 in advance he reacted with:"It's Politics... well it's politics...." and literally almost cried..) Two: absolute demolition of WTC with necessary collateral casualties had to be done to bring the US public to absolute outrage and vendetta-seeking and it was accomplished by intra-government para-formations if not entirely by private sector(the notorious private boutiques that US secret services like to use) without direct knowledge of higher-echelon(i.e. Bush and his coworkers) but that doesn't clear Bush of any responsibility, in fact it accuses him even more of negligence and could send him to life imprisonment sentence. I don't know what caused the explosions in the three towers, but it surely wasn't the hot air... i personally wouldn't believe that it was an inside job until i saw the blasting squibs and heard the taped explosions, and the fact that WTC has not have the gas plumbing(it has mandatory all-electrical stows) and it has CENTRAL AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM. Also i see the NAU as a good thing, but only if led by people loyal to the interest of the people and not to the interest of few. If it will be for the interest of few then i don't see it nothing different than the Hitler's Nazi Europe. Last edited by Mayo; 03-05-2007 at 08:49 PM. |
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03-07-2007, 03:15 PM
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| Nonrelated but central to question of where the world might be going
Heh! Just found great documentary about cyberpunk, although it isn't complete as i wished it was (^_^) The Cyberpunk Educator - Google Video Also @Source i encourage you to put movies here related to the subject of 911 "conspiracy" subject. The conspiracy that can't be proven scientifically should be bypassed in long range (were the planes drones, mil aircrafts...) and only the multiple footage proof of destruction and politician talk should be considered. Last edited by Mayo; 03-07-2007 at 03:24 PM. |
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03-07-2007, 03:43 PM
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03-07-2007, 04:15 PM
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| Plausible
The facts and statements presented in the first video about the collapse of the towers makes complete and perfect sense. But, none of this surprises me as it was Bush, Cheney, and cronies who used this event to their advantage in order to begin the Iraq War fiasco. Furthermore, Bush, Cheney, and cronies have been heretofore masters at suppressing the truth. Also, I, like many others, have always been concerned about what actually brought down Flight 93. Last edited by ElizaJ; 03-07-2007 at 04:28 PM. |
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03-08-2007, 12:08 PM
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| Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics editors
Here are the college "kids" kicking a## to some Popular Mechanics chief editors: YouTube - 9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics pt. 1 YouTube - 9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics pt. 2 YouTube - 9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics pt. 3 YouTube - 9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics pt. 4 YouTube - 9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics pt. 5 |
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03-08-2007, 12:39 PM
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These made no impact. They are widely discounted as propaganda pieces. Several people informed me that one of the nine reporters on the comprehensive Popular Mechanics piece, Ben Chertoff, is a nephew of DHS honcho, Michael Chertoff. WorldNetDaily: A closer look at 9-11 'inside job' theory don't know if this is true or the names are just a coincidence, but I do think popular mechanic's piece was really odd - for that publication to even produce it and why would it? |
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03-08-2007, 02:51 PM
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@worldnetdaily: " "Steel doesn't have to 'melt' as some of these people claim. The yield strength of steel drops very dramatically under heat, and the impact of the airliners would have severely impacted the support columns." Every structural engineer that the New American consulted felt the same. " Only the complete "simulation" that costs cca. 200-300MM$US would produce the necessary results... Will the US government be willing to spend that money is to let see... but i highly doubt it, they would rather burn that money in developing some extra mass destruction weapon... or to investigate who is f#c#$ng who (like Clinton-Monica case).... just to dodge REAL QUESTIONS! |
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03-08-2007, 03:16 PM
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| Another cool conspiracy song from Don Henley
Cool song for the cold world: From the arizona desert To the salisbury plain Lights on the horizon Patterns on the grain Anxious eyes turned upward Clutching souvenirs Carrying our highest hopes and our darkest fears They swear there was an accident back in '47 Little man with a great big head Splattered down from heaven Government conspiracy; cover-ups and lies Hidden in the desert under endless skies Well, it's a cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold Post, postmodern world No time for heroes, no place for good guys No room for rocky the flying squirrel They're not here, they're not coming Not in a million years Turn your weary eyes back homeward Stop your trembling, dry your tears You may see the heavens flashing You may hear the cosmos humming But i promise you, my brother They're not here, they're not coming Would they pile into the saucer Find orlando's rat and hug it? Go screaming through the universe Just to get mcnuggets? Well, i don't think so, i don't think so It's much too dangerous, it's much too strange Here in a world that won't give oprah no home on the range Well, it's a cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold Post, postmodern world No authenticity, no sign of soul The radio won't play george and merle They're not here, they're not coming Not in a million years 'til we put away our hatred 'til we lay aside our fears You may see the heavens flashing You may hear the cosmos humming But i promise you, my sister They're not here, they're not coming To this garden we were given And always took for granted It's like my daddy told me, ˇ°you just bloom where you're planted.ˇ± Now you long to be delivered From this world of pain and strife That's a sorry substitution for a spiritual life (solo) Well, it's a cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold Post, postmodern world No place for sentiment, no room for romance Bring back the duke of earl They're not here, they're not coming Not in a million years Turn your hopes back homeward Hold your children, dry their tears You may see the heavens flashing You may hear the cosmos humming But i promise you, my brother They're not here, they're not coming They're not here, they're not coming Not in a million years 'til we put away our hatred And lay aside our fears You may see the heavens flashing You may hear the cosmos humming But i promise you, my brother They're not here, they're not coming |
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03-10-2007, 06:48 PM
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I grew up around people who were always aware of and studying this sort of thing. I mainly bring it up to people who appear receptive, trying to follow the "when the student is ready ..." approach. It's easy to be shocked at what's going on, but it's nothing new. It's just more blatant now. The general populace doesn't want war until the rulers convince them of it's necessity. FDR had to allow (or even provoke) the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor so we'd have an excuse to enter WWII. Look up Operation Northwoods: ABC News: U.S. Military Wanted to Provoke War With Cuba "In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba. Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities. The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro." It's all been done/considered before. Just more common people are becoming aware of it now. It'll be interesting to see how that affects the elite's gameplan. I think that at least some of the conspiracy material is meant to be so overwhelming that people feel they can do nothing about it. A lot of what I've studied could be very depressing if I didn't make an effort to keep my life balanced along the way. |
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03-10-2007, 08:40 PM
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The stuff that intrigues me about Pearl Harbor is (although i doubt somewhat the conspiracy theoreticians about P.H.) why Japanese military didn't invade Hawaii?? After all they had to get close with their carriers near the coast of Hawaii.. why they didn't send the entire fleet of carriers and destroyers all along with the assault troops.. The basic strategy of destroying pacific naval troop is brainless unless you are not directed to perform direct assault on the US territory i.e. Hawaii and therefore establishing C&C post for further war advancement in war against U.S. BTW Japanese had a better deal in occupying the Indo-China than war gaming against US... |
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