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Old 03-05-2007, 08:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 911 truth, what are YOU going to DO about it??!!

I was first bedazzled about it and thought it's another wacko conspiracy theory... then after watching the documentary and additional 911 explosion and squibs videos on youtube and google video started to have a rash of uncontrolled crying. Although i'm not an US citizen i think that similar mind control sabotage operations are executed all around the world by different nations and private interests.
My question is this: will US citizens start to ask for truth to be uncovered and will you go to the point of court marshaling the traitors for high treason in your own country??!!

Here is the video:
9/11 Mysteries (Full Length, High Quality) - Google Video

You can also watch movie Painful Deceptions but it is essentially same as the first video:
Painful Deceptions - Google Video

Firefighters about explosions:
YouTube - 9/11 - Firefighters NYFD say Explosives brought down Towers

Loose change part 2 of video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=...&v=wJZlZP0vbCE

911 widows:
YouTube - The Widows of 9-11

NIST Engineer saying there was no molten steel:
YouTube - NIST Engineer John Gross denies molten steel at WTC site

YouTube - Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex.

Also you can search on youtube: "911 explosions" and "911 squibs"

After fully watching videos pls. comment in this thread.

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Old 03-05-2007, 12:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Here are some more, from Barrie Zwicker:
The Great Conspiracy - Google Video

also a video from some of the influential politicians:
The Great Conspiracy - Google Video

also a series of videos from c-span2, here are the all 16 parts of video:
YouTube - 9/11 QUESTIONS (01 of 16)

YouTube - 9/11 QUESTIONS (02 of 16)

YouTube - 9/11 QUESTIONS (03 of 16)

YouTube - 9/11 QUESTIONS (04 of 16)

YouTube - 9/11 QUESTIONS (05 of 16)

YouTube - 9/11 QUESTIONS (06 of 16)

YouTube - 9/11 QUESTIONS (07 of 16)

YouTube - 9/11 QUESTIONS (08 of 16)

YouTube - 9/11 QUESTIONS (09 of 16)

YouTube - 9/11 QUESTIONS (10 of 16)

YouTube - 9/11 QUESTIONS (11 of 16)

YouTube - 9/11 QUESTIONS (12 of 16)

YouTube - 9/11 QUESTIONS (13 of 16)

YouTube - 9/11 QUESTIONS (14 of 16)

YouTube - 9/11 QUESTIONS (15 of 16)

YouTube - 9/11 QUESTIONS (16 of 16)

Also inspect 911truthbristol, overwhelming contents there, especially video part of the site(be sure to view BBC documentary "The Power of Nightmares" that is in video page of the website.

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Also commission interview with Mineta about Chaney stand down order:
YouTube - Cheney gave STAND DOWN ORDER
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Yep.... it is very true.... The conspiracy theorists are not crazies. The NWO plan is unfolding in front of our very own eyes...

Have you heard about.... the NORTH AMERICAN UNION yet? Yes... you heard me right, the NAU - (Canada/Mexico/USA) having their borders erased among much much more, it is being dubbed the "SPP" or "Security and Prosperity Partnership of NA" (SPP Home). And for those of you who have been around a little longer - its the same agenda as the CFR Council on Foreign Relations

PLEASE view the following video, GET INFORMED: Pretext For The North American Union

This is not a conspiracy, this is real, but why is it something that is not being widely covered by our media, why is it not something that we are actively engaging in conversations and debates about? It is in the open - for those who look for it, but it is still 'in the dark' of the public eye.

What happens in 2-3 years? All of Canada/USA/Mexico have Biometrics RFID cards replacing their drivers license/passports, Same thing will happen in the EU - its already been declared by Tony Blair among others. Followed by another "911" to push us into a complete global government aka "NWO".... Next is the implantable chip (which is a funny one, because it is already being given to all military and governmental officials as well as psychiatric patients inside the US, as well as other test groups such as regular attenders of certain clubs. So this one may come sooner, afterall we still need a license to show to the cop when he pulls us over - so it may come hand in hand with the new RFID licenses)

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Old 03-05-2007, 02:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks Tropicality. More and more i see what you could saw in futuristic movies like Brazil, Mad Max, different cyber-punk novels...

Now what we have to choose is: will we live under velvet gloves tyrant countries, the earth that is teared by "XXX terrorism" that is masterminded by our own governments (here it will be EU government).... or we will account them and trial them for their atrocious crimes?
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Default Inside Job lyrics

(don henley/mike campbell)

While you were sleeping
They came and took it all away
The lanes and the meadows
The places where you used to play

It was an inside job
By the well-connected
Your little protest
Summarily rejected

It was an inside job
Like it always is
Chalk it up to business as usual

While we are dreaming
This little island disappears
While you are looking the other way
Theyll take your right to own your own ideas

And its an inside job
Favors collected
Your trusted servants
Have left you unprotected

It was an inside job
Like it always is
Just chalk it up
To business as usual

You think that youre so smart
But you dont have a ************ing clue
What those men up in the towers
Are doing to me and you
And theyll keep doin it and doin it
And doin it and doin it
And doin it and doin it
And doin it and doin it
Until we all wake up
Wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up

I know what Ive done wrong
I am acquainted with the night
I know how hard it is
To always walk out in the light

And its an inside job
To learn about forgiving
Its an inside job
To hang on to the joy of living

They know the road by which you came
They know your mothers maiden name
And what you had for breakfast
And what youve hidden in the mattress

Insect politics
Indifferent universe
Bang your head against the wall
But apathy is worse

Its an inside job
Its an inside job
Its an inside job
Yeh, yeah

Its an inside job
Its an inside job
Its an inside job
Its an inside job

Its an inside job
Its an inside job

Wake up....

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Old 03-05-2007, 04:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i think there is a little truth, not a lot, in these 'conspiracy theories' i thought it was very odd that popular mechanics published a debunking article some years ago - it seemed out of place and the author was connected to various politically interested organizations...

more plausible than conspiracy theories is the very provable: Israel and pro-Israel forces had foreknowledge about the attack and let it happen:
The High-Fivers- by Justin Raimondo
Israel and 9/11: New Report Connects the Dots- by Justin Raimondo

but even if that were not true...what the admin, and AIPAC's lobby did after is more important: ignored the reasons for the attack, lied about them, and used it as an excuse to attack israel's enemy: iraq.

Regarding a north american union -that's not conpiriacy theory - its a pretty out in the open plan - that's why bush is ignoring securing our borders and flooding the country with mexican immigrants - realities on the ground.
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I personally believe there were the two streams:

One: the president and the cabinet(Dick Chaney etc.) that knew about the attacks (there is one interesting interview where Bush on the question of if he knew something about 911 in advance he reacted with:"It's Politics... well it's politics...." and literally almost cried..)

Two: absolute demolition of WTC with necessary collateral casualties had to be done to bring the US public to absolute outrage and vendetta-seeking and it was accomplished by intra-government para-formations if not entirely by private sector(the notorious private boutiques that US secret services like to use) without direct knowledge of higher-echelon(i.e. Bush and his coworkers) but that doesn't clear Bush of any responsibility, in fact it accuses him even more of negligence and could send him to life imprisonment sentence.

I don't know what caused the explosions in the three towers, but it surely wasn't the hot air... i personally wouldn't believe that it was an inside job until i saw the blasting squibs and heard the taped explosions, and the fact that WTC has not have the gas plumbing(it has mandatory all-electrical stows) and it has CENTRAL AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM.

Also i see the NAU as a good thing, but only if led by people loyal to the interest of the people and not to the interest of few. If it will be for the interest of few then i don't see it nothing different than the Hitler's Nazi Europe.

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Heh Cyper-Punk future. Dibs on the Weapons cash left by the US army in Iraq!
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Default Nonrelated but central to question of where the world might be going

Heh! Just found great documentary about cyberpunk, although it isn't complete as i wished it was (^_^)

The Cyberpunk Educator - Google Video

Also @Source i encourage you to put movies here related to the subject of 911 "conspiracy" subject. The conspiracy that can't be proven scientifically should be bypassed in long range (were the planes drones, mil aircrafts...) and only the multiple footage proof of destruction and politician talk should be considered.

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Also i see the NAU as a good thing, but only if led by people loyal to the interest of the people .
would require the dissemblance or superseding of the US constitution -and that, my friend will be done over my and a lot of other people's dead bodies
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The facts and statements presented in the first video about the collapse of the towers makes complete and perfect sense. But, none of this surprises me as it was Bush, Cheney, and cronies who used this event to their advantage in order to begin the Iraq War fiasco. Furthermore, Bush, Cheney, and cronies have been heretofore masters at suppressing the truth.

Also, I, like many others, have always been concerned about what actually brought down Flight 93.

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Default Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics editors

Here are the college "kids" kicking a## to some Popular Mechanics chief editors:

YouTube - 9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics pt. 1

YouTube - 9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics pt. 2

YouTube - 9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics pt. 3

YouTube - 9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics pt. 4

YouTube - 9/11 Debate: Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics pt. 5
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These made no impact. They are widely discounted as propaganda pieces. Several people informed me that one of the nine reporters on the comprehensive Popular Mechanics piece, Ben Chertoff, is a nephew of DHS honcho, Michael Chertoff.
WorldNetDaily: A closer look at 9-11 'inside job' theory

don't know if this is true or the names are just a coincidence, but I do think popular mechanic's piece was really odd - for that publication to even produce it and why would it?
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@worldnetdaily:
" "Steel doesn't have to 'melt' as some of these people claim. The yield strength of steel drops very dramatically under heat, and the impact of the airliners would have severely impacted the support columns." Every structural engineer that the New American consulted felt the same. "

Only the complete "simulation" that costs cca. 200-300MM$US would produce the necessary results... Will the US government be willing to spend that money is to let see... but i highly doubt it, they would rather burn that money in developing some extra mass destruction weapon... or to investigate who is f#c#$ng who (like Clinton-Monica case).... just to dodge REAL QUESTIONS!
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" "Steel doesn't have to 'melt' as some of these people claim. The yield strength of steel drops very dramatically under heat, and the impact of the airliners would have severely impacted the support columns." Every structural engineer that the New American consulted felt the same. "

Only the complete "simulation" that costs cca. 200-300MM$US would produce the necessary results... Will the US government be willing to spend that money is to let see... but i highly doubt it, they would rather burn that money in developing some extra mass destruction weapon... or to investigate who is f#c#$ng who (like Clinton-Monica case).... just to dodge REAL QUESTIONS!
I wasn't agreeing with his column necessarily, but it was the closest thing i could find to mainstream media that said there was a link between the author of the popular mechanics article and Chertoff.
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Cool song for the cold world:

From the arizona desert
To the salisbury plain
Lights on the horizon
Patterns on the grain
Anxious eyes turned upward
Clutching souvenirs
Carrying our highest hopes and our darkest fears

They swear there was an accident back in '47
Little man with a great big head
Splattered down from heaven
Government conspiracy; cover-ups and lies
Hidden in the desert under endless skies

Well, it's a cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold
Post, postmodern world
No time for heroes, no place for good guys
No room for rocky the flying squirrel

They're not here, they're not coming
Not in a million years
Turn your weary eyes back homeward
Stop your trembling, dry your tears
You may see the heavens flashing
You may hear the cosmos humming
But i promise you, my brother
They're not here, they're not coming

Would they pile into the saucer
Find orlando's rat and hug it?
Go screaming through the universe
Just to get mcnuggets?
Well, i don't think so, i don't think so
It's much too dangerous, it's much too strange
Here in a world that won't give oprah no home on the range

Well, it's a cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold
Post, postmodern world
No authenticity, no sign of soul
The radio won't play george and merle

They're not here, they're not coming
Not in a million years
'til we put away our hatred
'til we lay aside our fears
You may see the heavens flashing
You may hear the cosmos humming
But i promise you, my sister
They're not here, they're not coming

To this garden we were given
And always took for granted
It's like my daddy told me, ˇ°you just bloom where you're planted.ˇ±
Now you long to be delivered
From this world of pain and strife
That's a sorry substitution for a spiritual life

(solo)
Well, it's a cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold
Post, postmodern world
No place for sentiment, no room for romance
Bring back the duke of earl

They're not here, they're not coming
Not in a million years
Turn your hopes back homeward
Hold your children, dry their tears
You may see the heavens flashing
You may hear the cosmos humming
But i promise you, my brother
They're not here, they're not coming

They're not here, they're not coming
Not in a million years
'til we put away our hatred
And lay aside our fears
You may see the heavens flashing
You may hear the cosmos humming
But i promise you, my brother
They're not here, they're not coming
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This is not a conspiracy, this is real, but why is it something that is not being widely covered by our media, why is it not something that we are actively engaging in conversations and debates about?
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I grew up around people who were always aware of and studying this sort of thing. I mainly bring it up to people who appear receptive, trying to follow the "when the student is ready ..." approach.

It's easy to be shocked at what's going on, but it's nothing new. It's just more blatant now. The general populace doesn't want war until the rulers convince them of it's necessity. FDR had to allow (or even provoke) the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor so we'd have an excuse to enter WWII.

Look up Operation Northwoods:

ABC News: U.S. Military Wanted to Provoke War With Cuba

"In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.

The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro."

It's all been done/considered before. Just more common people are becoming aware of it now. It'll be interesting to see how that affects the elite's gameplan. I think that at least some of the conspiracy material is meant to be so overwhelming that people feel they can do nothing about it. A lot of what I've studied could be very depressing if I didn't make an effort to keep my life balanced along the way.
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The stuff that intrigues me about Pearl Harbor is (although i doubt somewhat the conspiracy theoreticians about P.H.) why Japanese military didn't invade Hawaii?? After all they had to get close with their carriers near the coast of Hawaii.. why they didn't send the entire fleet of carriers and destroyers all along with the assault troops..
The basic strategy of destroying pacific naval troop is brainless unless you are not directed to perform direct assault on the US territory i.e. Hawaii and therefore establishing C&C post for further war advancement in war against U.S.
BTW Japanese had a better deal in occupying the Indo-China than war gaming against US...
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