Your current belief: Is reality subjective, partially subjective, or objective?

[Erock]

Hey I'm curious as to what your guys' current belief on reality is. I know for awhile there Steve was preaching a completely subjective reality, but I don't know if that was just to expand our minds or if he sincerely believes that.

Right now I kind of believe that there is one consciousness that we can all tap into, and ultimately merge with (enlightenment), but that, even if we merge with it, it still would not be completely subjective, but we can definately partially control it. That's why my vote is for partially subjective, but I definately want to hear what you guys think on this, so prove me wrong!

Erock

[judge45]

Great question!

I want to know exactly what bloody hell is going on!!!!!!

I find a level of understanding in subject reality, but it falls over when it comes to the one consciousness part and I'm manifesting everything including my loved ones. What I really what to know is, where do my solutions actually come from.

I set a goal/intention and it manifests, or it gives me the method so I manifest it. I know this is happening, I've seen it. Sometimes the answer pops into my head (where from I have no idea) and sometimes the answer presents itself in reality, without me having to do anything.

What's really kooky is earlier today I was thinking that I was tired of not knowing and wanted some new information to help me figure it out. I came home, came here and there's a post covering this very subject.

So that means that one of you is going to tell me exactly what the #@%&#* is going on. I would like nothing better than the truth to be presented to me.

I suppose the only thing that can happen is that I find an answer that 'feels' right. Right now I'm 70% SR 10% OR and the other 20% is complete confusion. I suppose partial SR is the best I can fathom.

I think total subjective reality is rather pointless, because it means you are God, but you've made yourself somewhat powerless to truly enjoy a physical reality, with that kind of thinking the whole thing gets really messy real fast.

Questions like why bother at all? Why care about anything? If you're truly the one consciousness, then isn't it pointless to even bother with a physical reality? How could physcial reality even rival being God?

Good question, looking forward to reading everyone's take on this.

Jeff

[soccer7]

I tried to believing that my reality is fully subjective, but i just didn't feel comfortable with that, having so many clues against it all. when i go read steve's site i want to believe in subjective reality in order to remove fear from my life. Then when i read Erin's site, which talks about spirituality and such, i get the impression that i should believe in objective reality, so i'm allittle confused about what to believe, my reality swictches alot nowadays.

so i vote for partially subjective. I would only try to use the belief of subjective reality as a tool to remove my fear, then when the occasion arises i would turn back.

[NightOwlNation]

Completely subjective in my beliefs/philosophy. But objective creeps in out of years of habit. But it no longer feels right as a perspective, for me, at all. Subjective answers the questions I had before, ties up all those loose ends in terms of the construction of my reality and the universe. Any questions I still have now fall beyond the realm of subjective/objective/reality creating. Like who or what aspect of Me/The I AM (details please) set up this 'system' in the first place? And where did they/this aspect of Me come from? I also totally accept that the answers to these other kinds of questions may not be something I can understand while "occupying" a physical perspective. Language, as I know it now, may not even relate to it in any way.

[Michael Chui]

Is there a reason the universe can't be both objective and subjective?

[Shaden]

I believe in an objective reality but treat life as a big dream, much like what Steve talks about in "Overcoming Fear". Life is so much simpler with this kind of mentality.

[Frans]

1. I can only perceive reality through my body's senses.
As my senses cannot register everything, and as not everything what I perceive is "real", I can safely assume that I cannot see reality "as it is".
With the filtered input from my senses, I construct a mental image of reality.
What I call "reality" is only a mental image, a perception of reality.
This personal perception of reality is per definition a "subjective reality".

2. Everything in my life happens around me.
I'm in the center of everything that happens.
I have a unique point of view.
It's my life, it's my reality.

3. I have only one certainty, and that is: "I exist".
Nobody can prove that they exist on the same level as me.
Compare it with a lucid dream: In a lucid dream, I'm aware that I'm dreaming, that I am the only "real" person in this dream, while all other people in my dream are trying to convince me that they are as real as me.

4. At first sight, I'm locked up in a bag of skin (my body). To survive, my body must be on a planet where there is enough oxygen, water and food. That planet must have a mild climate, so it must be in orbit around a certain kind of warm star. A star can only be found in a galaxy, etc...
This environment is just as essential to the existence of my body as my internal organs (heart, lungs, brain...). So, if I want to describe myself, I must also describe my environment: my body > Earth > galaxy > universe. If one element is left away, I cannot exist. Therefore, the only correct way to describe myself is: my body is an aspect of mine, the Earth is an aspect of mine, this galaxy is an aspect of mine, the universe is an aspect of mine. In other words: I am the universe, this reality is mine.

Conclusion: whether there is an objective reality is irrelevant, because I can only perceive things when they appear in my (subjective) reality.

[songwriter]

I don't know. I've never understood the Subjective Reality really.

[JHL]

In keeping with the general feeling of things, I, too, am thoroughly confused by the whole subjectivity/objectivity debate. It seems so speculative and so conceptual in nature as to be of no practical use to anyone.

We live in a reality. That is the reality perceived by our senses and I am happy to assume its the same reality everyone else also perceives through their senses. My interpretation of what I perceive is subjective, as is everyone else's.

Hence we have...

JHL's Grand Theory of Life (Trademarked, Watermarked and Landmarked): We all live in the same reality but perceive it somewhat differently.

(Please visit my blog for dates of my up-coming book signing tour, as well release dates of my DVD and DVD companion workbooks, and limited edition JHL action figures.)

[NightOwlNation]

Originally Posted by Michael Chui

Is there a reason the universe can't be both objective and subjective?

Well, what has come up for me since my last post here is that there is some sort of 'framework' that allows the subjective reality to be. So I posit that this framework (which may even go beyond the holographic model) is in some way objective. Whether or not I can perceive it as so. Whether or not I can perceive it at all from within the physical experience or otherwise. Though ultimately, as Steve P. offers, subjective reality has much to do with there being the One consciousness only.

[bylto]

Frans, that is a great post!

I think the question is whether or not there is only one consciousness and its yours, no others exist and nothing exists until you observe it - completely subjective.

Or am I just having a subjective experience of an objective universe?

It's all very strange but so interesting

[absvan]

I am trying to shift to subjective reality because I think it helps get rid of fear and negativity. But like others here I have many questions which dont have an answer.

If I have created this whole universe, how did I come here first. (Well one answer is that I have always been here and never changed, but just took another form to experience objective reality) So my parents and my childhood are nothing but just a projection of my consciouness????

Also I dont get it when Steve says the past exists to the degree that I beleive they exist. In reality all the days since my day of birthday till yesterday did exist. How can I choose to beleive that they did not exist??

Any thoughts on this?

[radeldudel]

I, for myself, see this whole reality like a big computer game.

See, if I where to play a character in a computer game, I would select the game to play, I would select what kind of character, then go and immerse myself into the game.
The game in itself is quite pointless - it does not matter if I slay dragons and get rich in WoW as soon as I end the game. Still the game does give me an experience. Thats why I play the game, for experiencing it. For fun.

Now I imagine me being some kind of angelic being, kinda bored on a sunday afternoon, saying, 'heck, I gonna play a round on earth'. Depending on what you want to experience you select your game area, type of creature, select problems you want to experience (I wonder how it is to play someone blind?) and so on.

Then you (angelic being) starts the game, immerses yourself. You here on earth are kind of like an avatar in a computer game. You don't really know about the person guiding you (higher self), you'll just have this nagging feeling there is someone. And yeah, after death the whole game content will get pointless, but the experience for your higher self will not be pointless.

Of course you could go 'if this all is pointless anyway I won't do nothing no more'. Well, have you ever played a game with someone who is not engaged, not interested. It's annoying, it's no fun. Same for you and your Higher Self. You stop immersing, you'll be the most boring player (maybe your higher self wanted to see how it is to be a boring player, though).

I wonder if what the LoA is doing, or things like Erins communication are kind of cheating the game *grin* trying to get a better position in the game by getting stuff from the higher world to help. Hacks. Anyway, as long as those hacks are not banned, why not use them

What I am not sure about is this 'we are all one and the same higher being'. I think we probably meet with other angelic beings, game with them, decide to play as group, or to meet us in the game sometimes.

What do you think of this?

Love you!

[absvan]

[QUOTE]I, for myself, see this whole reality like a big computer game.

See, if I where to play a character in a computer game, I would select the game to play, I would select what kind of character, then go and immerse myself into the game.
QUOTE]

If what you have mentioned is reality then, there is no free will. Destiny has been predefined. If you have chosen your character and your problems, then there is no point of LOA and intention-manifestation because you have chosen a specific set of experiences you wanted and even if you did practice LOA they should not attracts events or experiences that override your "character and game plan".

Does this make sense???

[Acting Like Godot]

The answer does not matter as long as you understand that you have vast, vast potential power to shape your universe.

[radeldudel]

Originally Posted by absvan

If what you have mentioned is reality then, there is no free will. Destiny has been predefined. If you have chosen your character and your problems, then there is no point of LOA and intention-manifestation because you have chosen a specific set of experiences you wanted and even if you did practice LOA they should not attracts events or experiences that override your "character and game plan".

Does this make sense???

In any computer game you played, have you known the result beforehand? Where you unable to steer your character?
When I played online roleplay, I never knew if my character, my goals, my ideas would succeed or fail until I tried.


What I forgot to mention: I don't see me and my higher self as separate beings, just like I don't see me and my computer game character as separate identities. You see, I am my character, and my character is me, kind of.
So my character-I is in control, and my player-I is, too, since we are both the same person.

Like I am in control of my life, as well as my higher self is. I don't have full access to all the knowledge of my higher self, like a gaming character does not have full access to my knowledge (even though I might be able to swim my game character might not have this skill).
And my game character can learn things I can't do, too. Just like I on earth can learn things my higher self cant do.

Makes more sense now?

[Sunny]

When discussing objective vs subjective reality it is important to have an understanding of the Levels of Consciousness (LOC) as described by Hawkins. Our individual and unique experience of reality (note the lower case "r") gradually changes as we move through the LOC. So instead of thinking about it in black and white terms we need to think of it more as shades of grey. At the lower ends of the LOC your experience is of a mostly objective world, where everything is separate from you. There is a tipping point between "Courage" and "Neutrality." In these middle ranges your experience is more of a balance between objective and subjective, where you begin to focus on relationships with others and even community. There is another tipping point between "Reason" and "Love". At the higher LOC your experience becomes more dominated by the subjective and you begin to focus on the unity of all things. As you move through the LOC your experience of reality (note the lower case "r") gradually gets closer and closer to true Reality (note the upper case "R") as described my all of the great mystical teachers such as Buddha, Jesus and Krishna so that when you reach the highest state of Enlightenment you are experiencing Reality (note the capital "R") yourself which is purely subjective.

So the reason it is difficult to discuss the concept of objective vs subjective reality with others is because we are all at different LOC so our experience of reality is different. When you are at one LOC you "resonate" with others at your same level so you tend to flock together, you think the people at a LOC below you are "immature" and you think that people at a LOC above you are "crazy" . I put the words "resonate", "immature" and "crazy" in quotes because once you understand this concept you stop judging people for where they are and begin to realize that everyone is in the perfect place for their own personal evolution and that no LOC is better or worse than another. An additional complicating factor to understanding objective vs subjective reality is that our LOC may be evolving during our own lifetime so our experience of reality tends to change on us.

So the bottom line is that your experience of an objective or subjective world is relative to your LOC. So by playing around with the idea of subjective reality you are likely to raise your LOC and you might even jump to the point where you begin to experience your own reality in a totally different way. Now that is cool.............

[Simmiah]

I read some of Steve's stuff where he says he believes there is a subjective & an objective reality constantly interacting. I am in some agreement with what I believe he said.

I do believe there is a subjective me.. perhaps you could call it the ego/mind that sees what a person says/does or perhaps an event on television on the news & it perceives it a particular way. However what I think/feel as a result of the person or event on the news is a projection of me by my mind/ego about the event. You could even get to the point where it's like the matrix.. it's all not exactly really out there as much as in here.

I have no clue if I make a flibbit of any sense but there are great teachers who I honestly think can explain this better. I do think there is an objective reality we are all participating in but so much of the world is subjective too. I hope it makes sense.

However in a way all that matters to me in terms of transcending my fears (that's my personal issue right now) it seems.. I must focus more on my subjective focus. What happens outside does not matter nearly as much to me now as what happens inside. Geez. I think I'm babbling.

[mysterygal]

I believe that Steve is incorrect in some of his assumptions. He says that everything in our reality is a manifestation of your consciousness. In saying so, that would suggest that you are the only conscious being. It would also suggest that the entire history of the world is just a fabrication of your consciousness. That is just not true. I have a bunch of conscious grandparents who would tell you that life did indeed exist before you came to the planet. This forum is a perfect example. There are people here, contributing their thoughts and conscious ideas, all coming from different times(of all different ages). If what Steve said is true, and everything is just a manifestation of your thought, then only one person contributing to this forum could be conscious. We all know that isn't true.

I think everyone lives within a subjective reality. Meaning that our perceptions, history, and thoughts help shape the reality that we experience. Infact, science is showing that everything is just energy. And our senses, and time perception are what make us think we are observing solid objects and so on. So, in the end we are all experiencing subjective realities. What do you guys think?

[mysterygal]

Did you guys ever think that we are all just part of a computer program? Our future is predetermined in the sense that the program is already in existence, and we are simply navigating it. Yet, what we make of that program, and what we become isn't predetermined, because we are the variables.

[Michael Chui]

Actually, I always thought I was the programmer. I'm still debugging it.

[mysterygal]

lol haha good one

[Liara Covert]

How do you think the conscious, subconscious and supraconscious all affect subjective reality? I see perception as an onion analogy with many skins to peel.

[Anagogy]

From my perspective, the reason people have such a hard time accepting the idea of subjective reality is because of mixed definitions. 75% of the time, words are the culprit barring the way to a clear understanding. So without further adieu, I will try to clearly express what subjective reality means and why people aren't sure whether the world is subjective or objective:

Subjective reality does not necessarily mean that there is no world 'out there', it just means that you are not separate from the world you perceive. In other words, the observer is not separate from the observed. Your consciousness is not an artifact of neurology doomed to cease existence when your physical "hardware" shuts down. Your consciousness is not a part of your body -- in fact, it is the other way around. It is your body that is a part of your consciousness. Body-centrics need not apply here. You are not confined to your body. Location is one of the biggest illusions of all time. If you are not separate from the world you see and experience, it means you are one with it. Therefore, all boundaries are illusions. The most distant quasar in the Universe is as near to "you" as your own heart. Your personal human ego, the part of you that you currently perceive and believe yourself to be in this lifetime is what is stopping you from perceiving your coextensiveness with reality.

The ego is the demarcation between where you are and who you are. It is a barrier, and thus ultimately, another illusion. It exists for a reason though, as does everything else. It is difficult to explain the reason why it exists, because it is something that has to perceived by each individual to truly 'get it'. But suffice it to say, all probabilities have always existed and your "spiritual journey to enlightenment" is simply the thoughtform of consciousness experiencing growth through self imposed limitation (if that makes any sense to you).

So to put it in perspective: while you are not consciously aware of the barrage of infinite data that you have access to, you are still constantly reacting to it based on your belief structure. Hence, if you believe you are unlucky, you will unconsciously manifest the fulfillment of that belief. Or if you believe you are allergic to some special substance, you will manifest a corresponding reaction. Make no mistake, you are constantly tapping into omniscience. Unfortunately, that omniscience is warped by your ego identity which leads to a whole bunch of belief structures which are false and arbitrary limitations imposed on reality.

Part of the reason people are so confused with Steve when he talks about subjective reality is because he is turning away from identifying with his physical ego consciousness. If you identify with the One Consciousness, of course everybody but you is an illusion, because our "personalities" are the result of various limitations imposed on our consciousness. All boundaries are temporary illusions, remember that. If you truly did manage to transcend your ego structure (no easy feat), you would be "All That Is" consciously.

The more you let go of your "defined self" the more powerful you will become psychically speaking. If you were to completely shed the barrier of your autonomy or ego, you would be able to will things into existence by the sheer election of them. You'd be back in god mode basically. However, at the same time you would have absolutely no desire to use that power. That's not to say miracles don't happen, or that people don't develop strange powers or abilities on their path towards realization, but it is the ego in you that holds any desire for that kind of power, and despite what many think, when you reach such a state of mind, you realize there was nothing wrong with the world all along, just your limited interpretation of it.

So in summation, you are creating every aspect of reality, but it is not necessarily your physical ego mind that is doing all the "heavy lifting" so to speak. It definitely plays it's part, but ultimately the only thing you really need to know is the power of your own focussed intent and belief. You can learn anything and be anything if you use those two precious tools. Anything is literally possible. You are only limited to the extent you believe you are, through ignorance or through false conceptualizations. And that is the heart of subjective reality in my opinion.

[Liara Covert]

Thanks Anagogy. One way to look at it is the only truth is that which exists inside each of us. We can only take ourselves to it. What other people tell us may orient us in the right direction if we choose to recognize it, but nobody outside will get us to the core of ourselves but us. If you choose to concurr with people like Deepak Chopra, Neale Donald Walsch and the Dalai Lama, you may determine that you can't not discover what it means to reunite with who you are. They suggest completeness on multiple levels, those you can sense and those which are buried deep inside, will enable you to die and then come full circle.What happens next is really up to you.

[Brutha]

It is both.

[yossarian]

It's my subjective opinion that reality is subjectively objective.

[777]

Originally Posted by Sunny

When discussing objective vs subjective reality it is important to have an understanding of the Levels of Consciousness (LOC) as described by Hawkins. Our individual and unique experience of reality (note the lower case "r") gradually changes as we move through the LOC. So instead of thinking about it in black and white terms we need to think of it more as shades of grey. At the lower ends of the LOC your experience is of a mostly objective world, where everything is separate from you. There is a tipping point between "Courage" and "Neutrality." In these middle ranges your experience is more of a balance between objective and subjective, where you begin to focus on relationships with others and even community. There is another tipping point between "Reason" and "Love". At the higher LOC your experience becomes more dominated by the subjective and you begin to focus on the unity of all things. As you move through the LOC your experience of reality (note the lower case "r") gradually gets closer and closer to true Reality (note the upper case "R") as described my all of the great mystical teachers such as Buddha, Jesus and Krishna so that when you reach the highest state of Enlightenment you are experiencing Reality (note the capital "R") yourself which is purely subjective.

So the reason it is difficult to discuss the concept of objective vs subjective reality with others is because we are all at different LOC so our experience of reality is different. When you are at one LOC you "resonate" with others at your same level so you tend to flock together, you think the people at a LOC below you are "immature" and you think that people at a LOC above you are "crazy" . I put the words "resonate", "immature" and "crazy" in quotes because once you understand this concept you stop judging people for where they are and begin to realize that everyone is in the perfect place for their own personal evolution and that no LOC is better or worse than another. An additional complicating factor to understanding objective vs subjective reality is that our LOC may be evolving during our own lifetime so our experience of reality tends to change on us.

So the bottom line is that your experience of an objective or subjective world is relative to your LOC. So by playing around with the idea of subjective reality you are likely to raise your LOC and you might even jump to the point where you begin to experience your own reality in a totally different way. Now that is cool.............

Now this is REALLY cool!

Thank you Sunny!

You have helped me to understand something very important.

I believe I am channelling a universal message through music, from God, source (insert label) ... and I find it hard to swallow when some people can not see what I see in certain songs such as common themes of love, fire in our hearts, finding a higher place, spirits rising and all the mention of soul...

I interpret this to be, often in a very synchronistic manner, as though God is speaking directly to me/you... I am aware of oneness and therefore I believe everything to be inspired by source and so when music/lyrics touch my heart, I feel source is talking directly to me. Some music doesn't touch my heart, in fact lots doesn't, but when it does, it really speaks to me.

Before reading your post I was unable to get my head around the blockages I saw in other people. Now I realise that these blockages were mirroring my own blockage, which now unblocked allows me to see that in fact everything is perfect, and the right people, will hear the music that I create and understand the message I am channelling, at the right time, in the right place, for the highest good of all.

And now I can see that as people rise through the different levels of consciousness, more people will relate to the music in the way that I do. I often get 'crazy' comments, and would then look upon those people as 'stupid'.... which is a silly cycle in itself, so thank you again for helping lift me out of that cycle and giving me an outlet to try and explain to people differences in the levels of consciousness. I only hope I can do so without sounding "better" as I know I am not, yet I understand that my soul is more evolved and I hope I can gently speak my truth, whilst standing in my power.

Any advice on dealing with that situation would be really appreciated...

[MindReality]

Originally Posted by Anagogy

Subjective reality does not necessarily mean that there is no world 'out there', it just means that you are not separate from the world you perceive. In other words, the observer is not separate from the observed. Your consciousness is not an artifact of neurology doomed to cease existence when your physical "hardware" shuts down. Your consciousness is not a part of your body -- in fact, it is the other way around. It is your body that is a part of your consciousness. Body-centrics need not apply here. You are not confined to your body. Location is one of the biggest illusions of all time. If you are not separate from the world you see and experience, it means you are one with it. Therefore, all boundaries are illusions. The most distant quasar in the Universe is as near to "you" as your own heart. Your personal human ego, the part of you that you currently perceive and believe yourself to be in this lifetime is what is stopping you from perceiving your coextensiveness with reality.

This is one of the most powerful ways I've ever heard someone define subjective reality. It just sets everything into it's proper perspective. We are all points within consciousness. We are all centers of consciousness by which the entire universe is projected through us. We are the Universe.

Anyway, about the difference between objective and subjective reality:

There IS Objective Reality.

Read this article to know what is TRUE Objective Reality.

Do your Beliefs Reflect Reality or Create It?

About the idea that as we rise in the Levels of Consciousness, our reality becomes more and more subjective, I would also say that we become closer and closer to True Objective Reality.

It is at the lower states of consciousness where our reality is more subjective because we are more trapped in the illusion of things. As we rise in levels of consciousness, we begin to see more and more of the Illusion therefore the world around us becomes more and more subjective as we see it. We have greater and greater power to change things as we see are able to tap into the fluidity of things. We become more and more anchored to True Objective Reality which is SPIRIT.

SPIRIT is unchanging, eternal, perfect, complete and infinite. This is the True Objective Reality which existence is not subjected to anything. Spirit is Consciousness and Consciousness cannot create or destroy itself. Consciousness simply IS.

My view? The highest level of reality is completely objective. All other levels are completely subjective.

[Sunny]

Originally Posted by MindReality

About the idea that as we rise in the Levels of Consciousness, our reality becomes more and more subjective, I would also say that we become closer and closer to True Objective Reality.

It is at the lower states of consciousness where our reality is more subjective because we are more trapped in the illusion of things. As we rise in levels of consciousness, we begin to see more and more of the Illusion therefore the world around us becomes more and more subjective as we see it. We have greater and greater power to change things as we see are able to tap into the fluidity of things. We become more and more anchored to True Objective Reality which is SPIRIT.

SPIRIT is unchanging, eternal, perfect, complete and infinite. This is the True Objective Reality which existence is not subjected to anything. Spirit is Consciousness and Consciousness cannot create or destroy itself. Consciousness simply IS.

My view? The highest level of reality is completely objective. All other levels are completely subjective.

Hi MindReality!

I think we are saying the same thing, but we are using different definitions of the word "objective".

One definition is "based on facts, unbiased." Another definition is "dealing with things that are external to the mind or consciousness."

When you are talking about the Ultimate Truth of Spirit I think you are calling it objective because there is only one Ultimate Truth which makes it "based on fact, unbiased." However, when I am talking about the Ultimate Truth of Spirit I call it purely subjective as opposed to objective because at this point you have experienced the infinite unity of all things so you realize that you are not "dealing with things that are external to the mind or consciousness." I think this is the definition Steve is using. I also believe this is what Anagogy meant when he said

the observer is not separate from the observed.

So at the higest LOC I agree that there is one Ultimate Truth of infinite unity which means that nothing is separate so everything takes place within a single consciousness. Would you agree with this assessment? If so, we are saying the same thing and just have a semantics issue. It just goes to show the limitations of our linear language!

And now I can see that as people rise through the different levels of consciousness, more people will relate to the music in the way that I do. I often get 'crazy' comments, and would then look upon those people as 'stupid'.... which is a silly cycle in itself, so thank you again for helping lift me out of that cycle and giving me an outlet to try and explain to people differences in the levels of consciousness. I only hope I can do so without sounding "better" as I know I am not, yet I understand that my soul is more evolved and I hope I can gently speak my truth, whilst standing in my power.

Any advice on dealing with that situation would be really appreciated...

Hi 777!

You must be reading my mind because I was thinking about this exact same thing earlier today in regards to a specific situation in my life right now. It is funny how you can understand this stuff in theory but it is a whole different game when you are applying it to actual life situations. Whenever I explain this situation though the context of the evolution of consciousness I find that I am vulnerable to my ego wanting to make me "more evolved" and therefore "better". I remind myself that this is dualistic thinking, that there is perfection in the process and that everyone is exactly where they are supposed to be. However, sometimes my ego wants to hang on and I start to feel like this .

I have a feeling that this might get to the point that time is an illusion so you really are not any further ahead or behind than someone else. I have been playing around with the illusion of time a lot lately and when I am able to actually experience timelessness I am overcome by a sense of enormous peace because my ego is quiet. Unfortunately, it does not last very long……..

I am wondering if anyone else has ideas on our ego wanting to be more “evolved” and therefore “better” than someone else?