Holodeck

[themaster]

Ladies and Gentleman gather round.. we're going to talk about the Holodeck

A certain someone who shall not remain nameless.. *cough* David Chung *cough* suggested that I per his reading gather people around and have a fun conversation about the Holodeck.. so let's get started shall we..

This discussion is about the design, application and ideas of instant manifestation w/ specifics.. this is meant to be a fun, imaginative thread and since this is a lot more like a EGO idea.. I'm placing it in the ego forum..

For the record you don't have to treat this idea as real.. you can just treat it as play if you like

Feel free to pick it apart, add to it or say nothing

I'm going to write it as a FAQ for now

[themaster]

What is the holodeck in simplest terms?

The holodeck in simplest terms is instant manifestation w/ specifics

Why do you use the name the holodeck?

Because it was given to me by my teacher.. "Jim Self" and later given to me by a Healer in a healing class I participated in.. far as I know these were unrelated incidents.. also many times has my teacher Bashar used that name as well.. though I didn't latch onto it then.. I have used many other names for it.. (though I believe I may have used the name when I talked with Bashar in August of 2009)

What can the holodeck do?

Specifics about the holodeck.. alright

The holodeck can do anything manifest planets, people, death, dismemberment, nuclear holocaust.. think of a scenario and it exists to be explored in physical..

The holodeck is meant to be a physical interaction device for 3d people but since I have no idea how to get that one accomplished.. *cough* 7 years later *cough* I did have some ideas about starting a super secret research organization and using psychics/money/scientists to get it done though

What are some of the features of the holodeck?

If you understand this reality as a limitation illusion like I do

Then you understand that we are not truly ourselves!

In that idea.. you could use the holodeck to place yourself as a character in a play.. so for example.. let's say you love the show "doctor who" alright? (just for the record.. this description also describes our present reality)

Rather than even remembering "who you are".. you could create a fake *optional* back story and place yourself inside the holodeck (the truth is were in the holodeck already.. it's just this game has different rules.. per my understanding ) as "The Doctor" for example.. maybe doctor number 6 cause no one likes him

Then you setup the time limit.. is this a adventure in days.. hours.. weeks.. months.. years.. decades you choose?

You also choose the following..

Do you remember you are a god and this is a simulation or do you choose to not to remember?

Do you allow yourself the illusion you're in danger.. or not in danger?

And finally when your adventure is over.. you merge your existing consciousness/mind with that of the adventurer.. you become one

Why are you after the holodeck and how come you know about it?

I have memories going back to my childhood of this idea and many, many imaginations of places I would create, experience.. maybe you do as well?? maybe not..

Couldn't the holodeck be a example of reality?

Absolutely
How many hints does it take?

How does one create a holodeck?

By my understanding it's the following
- Learn the rules of the reality
- Step up.. and then choose to step down

Death is also a option

What are some holodeck media references?

Well, there's billions isn't there.. from my perspective this is my reality.. so the holodeck idea is imbedded everywhere from my stand point.. in everything.. Descartes seemed to have the holodeck idea

But other forms of the holodeck in various media art forms can be seen in the following Star Trek (obviously), The Matrix, Dark City, Red Dwarf, Sliders, The Outer Limits and shows like it.. Quantum Leap

And the list goes on and on.. I will let others fill in the dozens of missing stories and ideas of this creation/gizmo

[themaster]

Interfaces for the holodeck?

I have thought of many.. one was the remote used in the Adam Sandler movie "Click".. one was a A.I. approach similar to a very old show called either Quantum Leap and or I forget the name of the time traveling one with hologram partner.. and now I remember.. "Time Traxx" there's also Red Dwarf

Recently.. as I became more into new age.. I realized that if you were to sit down and examine all the things we can do vibrationally.. all the choices a physical being could make on experiences.. and you just put it up on a wall with 1 experience for say each 19" monitor or so.. that wall would expand for billions of miles.. it would be huge..

So I think the holodeck interface need be much like a game designers interface.. kind of like a save/load screen.. but more than that.. I think now it should be with maybe a rating of Vibrational information

What I mean by that is.. we are all just vibrations.. and the experience we choose even this reality are just vibrations.. so vibrations as I see it.. is a mathematical kind of scale.. so the interface of this small computer if you will.. would have vibrational ratings on the enjoyment of the experience you would choose..

The truth is lately.. I don't see the need to design a interface.. I think it will be taken care of for me.. but it's certainly fun to try isn't it

Is the holodeck meant to be experienced here and now?

Yes, it is.. but my understanding is.. and at least the only way I've found "permission" from myself to get it is.. to Step Up.. that means ascend..

And why not..?? I like who I am.. I am happy with me.. I wanted to stay more limited.. but that doesn't seem to be a option.. so I will become limited/unlimited 5d and hope when I reach the holodeck that I will have the courage and bravery to step down again.. to perhaps even load a mindset I had from 3d..

The truth is.. we all stepped down already?? So will we really have that much fear to step back down? (not likely)

But here's my fear.. which I have/will address with my teacher(s).. I'm afraid when I get to 5d.. it will be so nice, so beautiful and so awesome.. I won't step down

How come you can't just create the holodeck in the now..??

Very good question.. thank you very much for asking!

It's my understanding the rules of this reality are different then the rules I wish to change.. I will go into that in more specific detail later maybe

Could the holodeck really be built with technology?

Obviously, it could be.. that's why we imagined it, yes

However my understanding is that the "technology future" we were all projecting isn't happening.. according to my teachers bashar/jim self.. we will leave the earth in a 100 years.. this obviously doesn't apply to everybody.. you create your own reality! You choose for you

I am considering re-watching some STNG episodes or movies.. or other newer Star Trek stuff to get a refresher course in what I want to create

What is one of the ideas you have for the holodeck?

Well, I always love disaster scenario's.. nuclear war type movies etc. for example "Night of the Comet" or "The Road Warrior" or "The Omega Man" seem cool to me..

One thing I probably will create and is in my imagination scenario's.. is the "Human History Museum"

This will be a rotating display of all human knowledge and experiences in kind of a rotating form.. it will be limited in the idea that it won't have everything.. I also in some of my scenario's.. wanted to offer it to the world in limited form.. Of course that was a universe where you stayed normal.. and I become.. "The Hulk"

Obviously though exploring this kind of reality is more than possible with the holodeck once achieved

What kind of experiences can be had with the holodeck?

Think.. "A Connecticut yankee in king arthur's court".. Think.. "A fish out of water"

Ever notice in our fish out of water stories.. That the fish always comes around eventually? (but at first they always pissed off)

(no smiley's in this FAQ question only cause I'm out.. <downer face> <smiley>)

[themaster]

Time to add some more Q&A.. just cause I have some

Why is the holodeck separate from our creator god powers?

Because this is a merging of 3d/4d consciousness into a device that can control it.. obviously you can ascend all you want too and return to manifesting "whole universes.. whole plains of existence"

But the holodeck is designed in such a way to allow you to have human EGO consciousness in your creator powers

Where does the holodeck exist at on the spectrum of dimensions?

I recently learned from my teacher it is not 5d.. but higher 4d dimension

He also mentioned that the sacred geometry for the holodeck is actually a CUBE, square like they used in "Star Trek"

He stated that to play in that you had to have anchoring’s in dimensions as high as 7d

What are some examples of reality's you think you might choose to experience?

I was looking at the world upside down the other day And realize it would be awesome to create a world upside down.. probably make it a adventure story crafted after the recent sci-fi movie.. "Alice"

How do you create the holodeck, if you were to start down that path?

Find yourself a "permission slip" and keep on, keeping on

What is your "permission slip"?

My permission slip is my teacher Jim Self and his 8 rays of creation

[Benjy]

[themaster]

Wow, fan mail

Well, thanks

I am smiley crazy.. I admit it!

[ssandra]

Nice idea!

I love fantasy (books), exactly because of this reason. They are my personal holodeck and transfer me to that location. I am actually there. I don't feel "here" anymore, I am not myself... I am there, and I am everybody at the same time

At times when I want to create my own location, I just close my eyes and I'm there. Lovely.



I don't understand all the 3D, 4D, 7D stuff, but I think I have a pretty good grasp on what you mean, or not?

[themaster]

Originally Posted by ssandra

Nice idea!

I love fantasy (books), exactly because of this reason. They are my personal holodeck and transfer me to that location. I am actually there. I don't feel "here" anymore, I am not myself... I am there, and I am everybody at the same time

At times when I want to create my own location, I just close my eyes and I'm there. Lovely.

Yah, and it's possible to really go there.. and have that experience.. you see we think these dream stories we create are just illusions.. they can actually be made into physical reality

(I'm a smiley face addict.. and I have issues.. my therapy says I should try cutting down to 150 a week but I think that's outrageous )

In addition my understanding is even what you imagine is real.. and played out somewhere You ever think about.. how we all read these books but likely EACH of us imagine different characters scenario's, buildings etc. ?? I'm not a 100% on this.. but I think we create everything in every possible way.. that's a lot of creation

Originally Posted by ssandra

I don't understand all the 3D, 4D, 7D stuff, but I think I have a pretty good grasp on what you mean, or not?

Well, here's what I know and I don't know it all.. we designed this reality to be layered in dimensions.. and most of us currently exist in the 3rd dimension.. we pop into the 4th.. when we exercise choice, unconditional love.. and stop playing rigid, judgment games of 3d.. these are some of the descriptions for the dimensions.. higher dimensions like 5d look a bit like the movie "avatar" so says my teacher.. but I don't think from where we are if I understand right.. we can really get too much of a grasp of it

Let's put what a dimension is like to idea of Black and White TV.. to color.. we exist let's say in Black and White.. we can't see color even if it's all around us.. until we anchor, upgrade, remove limitations that block the colors and enhance our perception to see them.. so if Black and White is 3d then let's say color is 5d.. it's a different AWARENESS of reality.. that exists even right now.. but most of us our not in tune to see it..

Rei, knows some of this.. she could share a analogy too.. I only offer what my teacher says.. I don't really care about dimensions honestly.. I just offer the information because that’s what my teachers uses to talk about getting to the real holodeck..

For the holodeck is real.. a real physical/mental interaction device.. we've been imagining in our media for a long while.. it could even be created with technology/scientists.. (I think if it was created it would be limited though.. the real holodeck is a "permission slip" to have our god powers back in a almost Control Panel like schematic ) but I believe it's much easier to remove limitations.. become more of yourself.. and walla bam one day your vibratory match for the holodeck

If you’ve seen how the holodeck works on Star Trek.. you’ll know that a person goes into take part in play of a type.. for example one episode I believe is about Sherlock Holmes and Moriarty the nemesis..

[krugerapc]

hey master... thought i would jump in on some of your thoughts

a holodeck would be incredible. i would have many questions though. per those who believe that each individual creates their own reality through thought, belief, attraction, manifestation, etc. dont we already live in a holodeck? i know your answer to that by the way. to create an environment where one can create something different and that actually has physical status would seem to be to draw people back to a very egoic level. to that end, if the technology "fell into the wrong hands"(evil laugh) it could be created on a grander scale and used to recreate a majority reality. thats scary! smilies just for you!

on the other hand, if the holodeck was used for "good" haha then i suppose it would be really cool to say climb everest without the travel across the world. but, if your lifes purpose and your manifestations meant for you to climb everest, wouldnt you find your way there without the use of an imagination creator?

[themaster]

Originally Posted by krugerapc

hey master... thought i would jump in on some of your thoughts

a holodeck would be incredible. i would have many questions though. per those who believe that each individual creates their own reality through thought, belief, attraction, manifestation, etc. dont we already live in a holodeck? i know your answer to that by the way.

Yes, but here's part of the idea.. many of us afraid to do things..

Are you afraid to rob a bank..? I think yes, you are

Are you afraid to say to your wife? (in a way) I'm going to go off adventuring for a while you and the kids will be fine.. I think the answer is yes, you are..

The holodeck is a permission to do anything in this reality we are afraid to do here physically.. you see we don't do these things (mostly) because the fear is about unfixable/un-repairable changes to our existing reality.. I guess it is what ALG likes to label "consequences"

Bashar has compared our reality to a holodeck.. so yes, we live in one.. but there are rules here.. and there's no.. "computer end simulation" or "computer, halt simulation" or "computer, reset simulation" Basically, our god powers are for now unavailable.. (but also available through loa, guides, telepathy, inner self etc.)

The holodeck from my perspective is almost a elimination of the "rules" here which are too strict and too rigid for me now.. it's my choice to remove the rules for me.. that's my choice.. I'm not resistant to the game I'm playing I wish to play it my way now.. It's a return for me to what we are..

could you imagine in a second asking? for a movie you vibrationally aligned with..

Let's say you asked for "Dances with Wolves" but the Mel Gibson version

If I understand reality correctly that exists and more than does that it exists.. but there are a billion versions of just that movie alone..

What are the rules you ask?

Well it's a good question.. since we’re all unique aspects to the one.. how come we can't have the holodeck, now? See that's a rule/a permission slip to be overcome..

The rules are.. we weighed ourselves down with limitation and to be free of limitation.. you have to clean yourself up.. all of you

Many of us also agreed to do, many, many things via tons of lifetimes.. part of the rules to release is to remove or finish these promises..

You see, if I haven’t said.. there are numbers of ways to get the holodeck.. death should almost instantly bring you there.. (per your request.. however it is also a different perspective.. no veils) however I have a EGO and like most of us am Afraid.. were all afraid to some degree.. it’s part of the limitation game I believe.. so I have chosen the upgrade path.. this means I stay physical and EGO consciousness and slowly change myself inside until “permission granted”

Originally Posted by krugerapc

to create an environment where one can create something different and that actually has physical status would seem to be to draw people back to a very egoic level. to that end, if the technology "fell into the wrong hands"(evil laugh) it could be created on a grander scale and used to recreate a majority reality. thats scary! smilies just for you!

That's already been done Where do you think evil came from in the first place?

Evil is us and many doth creator gods.. did create much evil to mis-align those that could be mis-aligned have a look at our reality..?? for a long time.. this game has been messed up according to my teacher since the fall of Atlantis

(now I'm not calling our game bad just saying it's been limiting.. I see it as a great time.. to use that limitation and at the same time explore it anew)

According to my teacher everyone else is leaving.. (well, were all leaving) but I'm going to take the slow way

I was suprised to learn recently per my teacher.. that realities have been created where there's no "free will" at all.. hell, I guess if I'm being honest about it I'd probaly create one lol

But I find it funny that were all gods.. yet, we can trap ourselves in limitation.. my understanding is the One (according to my teacher) wants all of us back into a "coherent configuration"

[themaster]

Originally Posted by krugerapc

on the other hand, if the holodeck was used for "good" haha then i suppose it would be really cool to say climb everest without the travel across the world. but, if your lifes purpose and your manifestations meant for you to climb everest, wouldnt you find your way there without the use of an imagination creator?

You know what becomes sometimes tiring about what were doing here..?? is the level of crap we have to deal with.. cause it's physical reality..

For example.. let's see if you were travelling around and wanted to cook burgers.. you'd have to go to the store (without pre-preparation) buy a stove, fuel, burger meat, burger buns, ketchup, cheese, cooler, ice, spatula, paper plates, drive to the beach to cook the burger..

What I'm saying is where were all from.. we just teleport to the beach.. and instantly manifest the burger of our choosing

There is reward in the journey.. certainly coming here to this game.. and paying your way to the top of everest is a rewarding journey.. I'm not here to ♥♥♥♥♥ about that..

If you could go into a book store and not look at the books as stories.. but as experiences.. wouldn't that be something?

One thing I have to say is I'm changing so much out of limitation.. that judgment games are over for me.. I used to like judgment games.. now I don't know why us humans do it? I can't watch judgment movies anymore and get a sense of what the story is really about.. so I've already removed serious limitations Per my understanding of the holodeck when reached by my choice.. I can reload myself when I was I had a perspective of judgment games and play also from that perspective

(many times.. judgment movies and statements of limitation in movies.. just have me laughing, there just silly.. my teacher said this would happen)

(Actually.. what it is.. now that I think of it.. I watch movies like a 7 or 10 year old now.. I have no idea what the characters are necessarily raving on about.. that is quite good progress.. I became a adult.. and my child like regression is moving along nicely)

But I would like to explore realities of my imagination in full physical.. I would like to design a house and a balloon house I've had in my head for years.. and I'd like to float in it.. explore my own house in physical

Let's play the "let's design a balloon house" in physical reality game.. alright..?? first off you have to make sure it measures up to the rules of structure and gravity.. (aka limitations) Then you have to get special approval to fly it above everyone.. (aka government/human limitations) Then you need money.. (cause no one's gonna build it for free?) and the list goes on and on.. welcome to limitation reality.. do you not love it, yet? (for it is beautiful)

(BTW.. there's a certain disney movie.. that stole from me, my balloon house.. lawsuits pending )

These things per my understanding our possible.. and at the end of the year.. I might just be there and maybe not.. no promises.. I'll just keep trying.. and trying.. and trying Never give up, never surrender.. that's my motto.. now watch me create the impossible!

[krugerapc]

man - you can go on for so long it is hard to touch on all you say....a couple things that stand out though.

yes, the aspect of taking our physical fear out of a situation is intrigueing. we can go on a "dangerous" trip, know that it is all just "fabricated and only set to the rules of our choosing". that in itself would make the holodeck both interesting, but, also EXTREMELY limiting. i say that because i feel that in this physical life we are constantly challenged, mentally, phsyically, emotionally, etc. it is through the "complete" experience that we grow. i say that because i have jumped from an airplane at 13,000 feet. yes i had an experienced skydiver on my back but, holy sh@t i was crapping my pants! no pun intended ! my point - the fear that i had to overcome, the intensity of knowing what i was doing , conquering it all and walking away with my adrenalin pumping - that was the accomplishment in it! i know that the holodeck would allow for your own rules, but, to establish those rules might mean to lose out on part of the end experience....yeah? idk just a thought.

the other point i loved was when you talked about being a child. i feel this is one of the most important aspects in life. as children i believe that we are born pure, unadulterated, trusting, caring, holding unconditional love, able to believe anything without constant question, with little to no ego.....and then we get conditioned. and then we are screwed or we learn to uncondition. to be a child at times is to truly live (physically anyway) i like that you are moving back in that direction. its a great place to be i think!

kruger

[themaster]

Originally Posted by krugerapc

know that it is all just "fabricated and only set to the rules of our choosing".

Yah, but you’re missing a option.. knowing that's it fabricated is a option.. not knowing is a option too just like in this reality

Originally Posted by krugerapc

yes, the aspect of taking our physical fear out of a situation is intrigueing. we can go on a "dangerous" trip, know that it is all just "fabricated and only set to the rules of our choosing". that in itself would make the holodeck both interesting, but, also EXTREMELY limiting.

Of course the holodeck is limiting.. so ours reality.. the holodeck = merely permission to change the rules..

If it weren't limiting.. there'd be no point to using it.. After all if your sick of limitations and want to explore more beauty, elegance and grace.. well, your already on your way.. or you can accelerate the process and get to 5d faster.. in 5d stance.. I don't think you'll need the holodeck to instantly create.. and it's not to say from a 5d stance that you cannot return to 3d stances through a holodeck there.. or through reincarnation.. whichever

Originally Posted by krugerapc

i say that because i feel that in this physical life we are constantly challenged, mentally, phsyically, emotionally, etc. it is through the "complete" experience that we grow. i say that because i have jumped from an airplane at 13,000 feet. yes i had an experienced skydiver on my back but, holy sh@t i was crapping my pants! no pun intended ! my point - the fear that i had to overcome, the intensity of knowing what i was doing , conquering it all and walking away with my adrenalin pumping - that was the accomplishment in it! i know that the holodeck would allow for your own rules, but, to establish those rules might mean to lose out on part of the end experience....yeah? idk just a thought.

Now it's you defining the limitation and judgment

I'm not arguing with you.. that you became more of yourself when you jumped 13,000 feet.. but what I'm saying is the holodeck can reproduce that experience exactly.. with memory of it as a 1st time or as you've done this before.. (or you can of course change things.. )

What your really saying here.. is what our sci-fi shows always say.. ever watch sci-fi..?? well, let me give you a example of a typical "Outer Limits" or "Twilight Zone"

In the show let's say a character invents a time machine.. (we won't try the holodeck) they travel back in time to kill evil "serial" murders before they kill lots of innocent people.. these stories are always about good and evil (judgment)

So if I remember one correctly.. the person that does all the shooting gets charged as a serial killer.. for killing so many random people who hadn't committed crimes yet.. in some of these.. the crimes happen anyway.. regardless of playing with time linearly (which you actually can't.. but ohh well ) You can create the illusion, though

What I'm saying is.. you just said that the holodeck a higher part of 4d.. is somehow less then what we are.. and that it can't equate to your experience of 13,000 feet.. I'm telling you it can.. and it can do a whole lot more.. rising up in the dimensions or even here on earth.. is just finding out "more of what you are"

We are everything it is not a joke.. we are own chosen configurations.. but we are everything around us.. everything is us.. so even if you look out and go.. hmm. "country" music doesn't resonate with me.. or just not my preference.. it doesn't mean from another perspective.. and certainly a full on perspective of ourselves.. that we can't find appreciation and love of everything we are..

Sorry, if my example didn't come together perfectly.. but hopefully you get the point

Originally Posted by krugerapc

the other point i loved was when you talked about being a child. i feel this is one of the most important aspects in life. as children i believe that we are born pure, unadulterated, trusting, caring, holding unconditional love, able to believe anything without constant question, with little to no ego.....and then we get conditioned. and then we are screwed or we learn to uncondition. to be a child at times is to truly live (physically anyway) i like that you are moving back in that direction. its a great place to be i think!

It's the way everyone is moving.. I'm not 100% sure I'm exactly like a child.. because I can understand plot elements that maybe I couldn't have understood when I was 7 or 10..

But everyone is being pulled back that way.. now if only we could stop all the adults on the planet from conditioning their children to be like them!

My teacher likes to say about children.. look and learn from them.. stop treating them as a lesser.. start treating them as a equal.. these children born today are great beings of light! (well, that’s what he likes to say)

[themaster]

About the interface to the holodeck?

I've recently been thinking about the holodeck again.. and how it's interface can be internal.. but was also designed to be external..

And what that should look like manifest as..

I've also been thinking lately that I might not choose to leave this reality.. rather I still may be available by phone.. and I still may post here (not me physically posting) but me allowing a part of my consciousness to post here through the "ether"

To me the holodecks interface might always be changing.. always.. it might be dynamic like a changing museum.. everyday new exhibits of vibrations/experiences.. and some sort of system for loading different mindsets.. different mentalities..

I was running a imagination scenario the other day where I invited my family into the holodeck.. (I think preparation is required) and where I had a converstation with my sister angela "via phone" and I had her projected right there in front of me talking on a holoview screen if you will

And me choosing in a instant to manifest from the holodeck back here to reality.. to have a talk in person as it will..

I've also been thinking about how time in the holodeck compared to time here would equate.. and of course it doesn't.. since all time is NOW.. but the choosing of the time period to interact.. I could spend a 100 years in the holodeck.. and choose to come back to earth 2 years from the day I left etc.

___________________________

And after a re-review of my thread.. I thought of a interesting wall of long corridors of a shall we say computer monitors and this long corridor was like a timeline of the life I lived and the things I thought.. and in it.. was a list a calling/a image of something I wanted to experience in the holodeck..

And thus then I could achieve that experience.. by re-loading the mindset that was me at that time and the experience I wished..

For I will be honest.. at this point at time.. I don't feel so "gung ho" happy to jump into the holodeck.. like it will cure all my ills or make me feel better at this moment.. this is I think the problem with "moving up"

But one of the thing I want to do with the holodeck is also make a play at the "perfect life" are hollywood is always selling us.. with the perfect homes.. the perfect clothes.. and the perfect food!

[themaster]

Alright, it's time to holodeck with "What I know now"

Certain information has become changed/situated different.. miss-understood.. or correctly understood..

Shall we

Originally Posted by themaster

Where does the holodeck exist at on the spectrum of dimensions?

I recently learned from my teacher it is not 5d.. but higher 4d dimension

He also mentioned that the sacred geometry for the holodeck is actually a CUBE, square like they used in "Star Trek"

He stated that to play in that you had to have anchoring’s in dimensions as high as 7d

This information is not exactly correct.. in higher 4d there is a holodeck that takes on a cube structure and I think is called.. "Mer-Ka-Va - 12 point stellated dodecahedron"

This structure has the ability to simulate reality.. but only in your head.. I have not yet experienced this part of my teachers "lessons" so no comments do I have on what it's like yet..

All the information I gave above is correct but is not correct in the idea of a "physical holodeck" one where you could touch, taste, smell etc.

Originally Posted by themaster

What is your "permission slip"?

My permission slip is my teacher Jim Self and his 8 rays of creation

I also want to clear this up.. there are not "8" rays of creation.. at a guess and I don't know the number.. there 100's of ray's.. but there are only certain ray's that effect us humans on this planet..

And those are the following

Ray 1 (this is not there numbering system.. it has been provided for us to understand/know it) The Will of the Creator

Ray 2 - A step down/step up energy ray.. from our point of being says my teacher.. impossible to really get too much access as of right now..

Ray 3 - (I forgot )

Rays 4 through 6.. rays that our universe and we are made of..

Ray 7 - A kind of transformation ray..

Ray 8 - can erase stuff..

Rays 9 through whatever.. don't have much..

This ray order.. is all from my memory.. you can see I don't have it down very well yet.. if required I can translate the information accurately.. (but someone will have to ask) otherwise.. I don't care

Rays 4 - 6 are step down ray's of rays 1 through 3.. (stepped down meaning.. there's so much energy in rays 1 to 3.. it had to be stepped down/made simpler)

I want to be clear that rays 4 - 6 have applications in them.. in that.. if you ever used a word processor or a programming language.. you might use Bold or a Debugger to make you work faster.. this is my understanding.. these ray's have applications in them.. the equivalent to doing just that

So here's questions.. I might ask if reading this..

What the hell do the ray's do.. here in reality, right now?

According to my teacher.. instant manifestation.. is not yet possible.. (the energy is not yet anchored in.. but will be soon)

When's soon? (don't ask even I don't know )

What the ray's can do that I'm aware of is.. currently break down belief structures and things that don't serve.. and change their reaction right here in the now.. I have only been playing with them for a little while.. so I am not going to offer anything at this time in terms of story's or experiences for you to judge

A clear understanding of "Mastering Alchemy" and my teacher..

I have not stated this as of yet.. but here I will..

I have been reminded lately that the.. Mastering Alchemy program is a advanced Acceleration program/experiment.. run through Jim and the archangels and according to Jim (only being done on 1 other part of the planet right now) this is not a normal program.. it is advanced acceleration into changing into "who you are" and removing "what you are not"

It's not for everyone.. and not everyone can do it.. (so is my understanding.. )

And I have no idea why I had a slight headache writing this.. or why I hear high pitched noises

[sundance]

The Master,

First thank you so much for everything you've done at this forum. I've read numerous posts of yours, and I've benefited greatly. Sometimes when I have questions/issues, I'd come across your answers in some threads, which answered my questions, so a big THANK YOU. Sometimes I think you are sent by my higher self into my holodeck.

I've been reading a lot about subjective reality lately - Busting Loose book, Nic & many others' posts at this forum, and I'm trying to reconcile Jim Self's teaching with Subjective Reality (SR) framework.

SR: this whole world is an illusion/holodeck, everything is created by God/my consciousness. The real nature of me is God/consciousness, not the avatar. And there is this Oneness concept. By realizing our true nature, and allowing things to happen, we enjoy playing with our own creations.

Jim Self's teaching seem to indicate that we need to do something to move into 4th/5th dimension in order to make our lives better. Further, he thinks all the upcoming changes are real (e.g. 2012). Isn't this still an Objective Reality framework? By SR, this reinforces the illusion of the holodeck, reinforces the separation of the avatar and our true God-ness.

In SR, Jim Self, along with all the arch angels, would be a creation of God/expanded self.

So I'm having a hard time reconciling the two.

Thoughts?

Originally Posted by themaster

Ladies and Gentleman gather round.. we're going to talk about the Holodeck

A certain someone who shall not remain nameless.. *cough* David Chung *cough* suggested that I per his reading gather people around and have a fun conversation about the Holodeck.. so let's get started shall we..

This discussion is about the design, application and ideas of instant manifestation w/ specifics.. this is meant to be a fun, imaginative thread and since this is a lot more like a EGO idea.. I'm placing it in the ego forum..

For the record you don't have to treat this idea as real.. you can just treat it as play if you like

Feel free to pick it apart, add to it or say nothing

I'm going to write it as a FAQ for now

[themaster]

Originally Posted by sundance

The Master,

First thank you so much for everything you've done at this forum. I've read numerous posts of yours, and I've benefited greatly. Sometimes when I have questions/issues, I'd come across your answers in some threads, which answered my questions, so a big THANK YOU. Sometimes I think you are sent by my higher self into my holodeck.

Well, thank you as well.. it's good to hear from people that's it's helping

Originally Posted by sundance

Jim Self's teaching seem to indicate that we need to do something to move into 4th/5th dimension in order to make our lives better.

Not at all.. Jim will tell you straight up his work is optional..

He didn't sell me with "you need this!"

He sold me with "this will help" And I was skeptical of it helping.. (I figured I had it fine..) which is why are first conversation like 3-5 minutes was all about that mostly..

Originally Posted by sundance

Further, he thinks all the upcoming changes are real (e.g. 2012). Isn't this still an Objective Reality framework? By SR, this reinforces the illusion of the holodeck, reinforces the separation of the avatar and our true God-ness.

Not really.. Jim is saying "there's a plan" and we created/our creating it.. and it was meant to be this.. and this is what was planned.. (even though I say this.. also remember.. we change the plan everyday)

I mean this is a designed reality.. jesus.. wanted us to stop living in "fear" and repressing each other 2000+ years ago.. look how well that turned out?

They took his name.. and repressed the masses with his ideas..

I know.. I know you want me to help resolve issues between SR.. a concept I claim to be mostly "daft" about.. the holodeck, bashar and Jim Self..

(actually after you asked this question.. I decided to ask for help with learning concepts I feel "daft" about S.R. is one of them.. cause I don't like that "label" and I think it makes it over-complicated.. and yes, yes I read your post a few days ago.. just haven't felt like responding till now)

Okay, let me tell you honestly.. sometimes these are hard concepts to rectify.. I wouldn't have started this thread.. How hard is it to believe you create your own reality? if I don't doddle a little..

About a week+ ago.. bashar held a conference in L.A. on multiple realities.. one I meant to go too.. according to my friend who went to it.. she even stated bashar said "we create new realities almost every second, almost every heartbeat"

This is what ironically I've said.. whether because I've heard bashar say it before.. or I just "know" it.. I don't know

But the point is.. yes, there are a lot of versions of earth.. and some have already become "christed planets" obviously, not this one yet

I will tell you honestly, I have a hard time fitting all the pieces sometimes between Bashar and Jim Self.. sometimes it just clicks neatly into place.. sometimes not.. for example.. Jim never talks about the "oversoul" but I finally asked him a question related to it.. and heard him say.. (listen up.. NIC ) the oversoul is like a "computer/master server"

This is what he also said to clarify.. "soul part of you > oversoul part of god"

This is what I am going to tell you

I approach Jim Self and Bashar's theory *problems*.. as a scientist.. when I don't have a explanation for something (which is rare.. cause they hit everything I care about.. very well! ) I throw that category into.. "don't know" "don't understand yet"

And I use it like a scientific theory pretty much.. I say.. "I don't know this" but I'll wait until FURTHER/new information comes along to make this fit..

You see I trust that I am leading myself to the truth.. and that in some part the teachers I choose.. are helping me with this..

And I don't feel doubts at all that I'm lying to myself.. and even when I do.. I say "what can it hurt?"

The holodeck is a hard thing to get.. yes?? I mean I still don't have it.. it's been 7 years.. yes? So to me it doesn't matter.. if it's "all lies" because "what can it hurt?"

It's a simple logic.. and yet that is the reason why I have jumped head first into huge amounts of "new age" ideas and logic and information

[themaster]

And the fact is I trust my emotional self to filter lies from truth.. very rarely do I feel negative by any idea by "Jim Self" I never do with stuff from abraham (bare in mind my study is older pre 2008) or Bashar

Even Jim has talked about this with me personally filtering your truth from people.. I have a hard time right now with tyberonn.. who says.. you should place crystals between your monitor to shield your Aura to keep the optimum circuitry of 13-20-33.. and you should do this.. and you shouldn't eat food from microwaves.. and it goes on and on.. it get's heavy/boring.. to me.. cause I hate limitations.. and yet I believe he's saying..

Hey you! Yah, you! If you want to get to heaven *cough* ascend faster.. stop eating bad things for you.. block these monitors that admit bad *magnetic* fields for your light body! Stop eating food from microwaves.. your lightbody doesn't like it.. etc. etc. on and on

Even though I've explained all this.. I'll try and tackle your question one more time..

Originally Posted by sundance

I've been reading a lot about subjective reality lately - Busting Loose book, Nic & many others' posts at this forum, and I'm trying to reconcile Jim Self's teaching with Subjective Reality (SR) framework.

SR: this whole world is an illusion/holodeck, everything is created by God/my consciousness. The real nature of me is God/consciousness, not the avatar. And there is this Oneness concept. By realizing our true nature, and allowing things to happen, we enjoy playing with our own creations.

Jim Self's teaching seem to indicate that we need to do something to move into 4th/5th dimension in order to make our lives better. Further, he thinks all the upcoming changes are real (e.g. 2012). Isn't this still an Objective Reality framework? By SR, this reinforces the illusion of the holodeck, reinforces the separation of the avatar and our true God-ness.

In SR, Jim Self, along with all the arch angels, would be a creation of God/expanded self.

So I'm having a hard time reconciling the two.

Thoughts?

This is what bashar says okay.. reality is all a illusion.. pure and simple.. the people in it, the tools we use.. the electricity that turns on the light bulb.. illusion.. created by us.. Creator gods! (yes, even bashar says this.. though not as often as Jim does.. and in this way.. )

So I think in that we can agree were already on the holodeck?

So you ask me.. I say "computer arch" "computer halt simulation" "computer end program" and it doesn't work?

And that's where.. we say.. the information says.. there are RULES.. now you say what are these rules?

Well, if you ask me.. one of them is..

1. You can't call for the "arch" until you beat/ascend in the game.. (sorta )

2. You can't leave the game until you beat the game by "living your life" to the best of your ability.. or really reaching a point where you say "enough" and keel over! <insert tongue smiley here.. I ran out :-)>

According to bashar and I quote.. "all rules are malleable for all realities" but how that all works.. I just don't know.. as Jim like to say.. "we know what we know" "we don't know what we don't know"

I listened to "Steve Rother" say.. friends, loved one, joyous creator gods.. we would love right in this second to "stop" this game.. show you how much you are truly loved.. to share with you.. "how" great you are (see even this statement gets me teary ) but you see.. we'd be cheating you my friends.. for you have come here with purpose to do this thing.. and we honor that you don't wish to "cheat" that you will bear the torch/responsibility one more day of existence.. one more day of trying..

Well, I lost the essence of what he was saying.. but I can point you to the video.. if you want to hear "his" version of it ??

I want to state something as well.. to be clear.. here.. according to the "new age" cheatings /information I have read.. we have "cheated" many times in this game.. many, many times.. and so unless you remember.. being enjoyously wrapped in a warm blanket by a beautiful fire.. surrounded by beings of pure white light.. feeling love like you never felt before.. then the truth is you.. don't remember cheating.. probably

Okay, that's my second attempt to answer your question.. if that's not good enough "ask again" I'm sure I'll come up with something *new*

[sundance]

Originally Posted by themaster

I listened to "Steve Rother" say.. friends, loved one, joyous creator gods.. we would love right in this second to "stop" this game.. show you how much you are truly loved.. to share with you.. "how" great you are (see even this statement gets me teary ) but you see.. we'd be cheating you my friends.. for you have come here with purpose to do this thing.. and we honor that you don't wish to "cheat" that you will bear the torch/responsibility one more day of existence.. one more day of trying..

Well, I lost the essence of what he was saying.. but I can point you to the video.. if you want to hear "his" version of it ??

Thank you the master for your replies! That's a beautiful quote from Steve Rother.

Like you, I also use my heart/inner guidance to feel the authenticity of various teachings. I believe whatever resonates with each person is his/her truth at that point. Some time Later, he/she could resonate with different things, and that's totally fine, as in this way he/she grows/evolves, and gets closer and closer to the ultimate true.

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I'm trying to integrate all the pieces, because I believe the ultimate truth should be able to explain everything.

Here are some of my recent thoughts:

- the SR framework works nicely with Tolle's teachings, because both talk about from inside out - as we change within, so do without, even though Tolle didn't talk about SR.

- I like Bashar's parallel universe thing. The seth material also talked about similar concepts, so that's a good validation.

Overall I like Bashar. He's very dynamic.

BTW, how do you study Bashar? Where do you find a good source of material? Do you mainly listen to the youtube videos, or do you go to The Official Site of Bashar channeled by Darryl Anka ?


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BTW, I joined Jim's level 2 programs, although I haven't done much because I was reading about SR theories lately. But very likely I'll see you at the mid-year program

[themaster]

Originally Posted by sundance

Thank you the master for your replies! That's a beautiful quote from Steve Rother.

Well, just for the record.. it's way off.. on his actual words.. that was the best amalgamation.. I could come up with

Originally Posted by sundance

Like you, I also use my heart/inner guidance to feel the authenticity of various teachings. I believe whatever resonates with each person is his/her truth at that point. Some time Later, he/she could resonate with different things, and that's totally fine, as in this way he/she grows/evolves, and gets closer and closer to the ultimate true.

Yes, well I'm all for the Emotional Guidance System.. that is everyone's truth detector

Originally Posted by sundance

- the SR framework works nicely with Tolle's teachings, because both talk about from inside out - as we change within, so do without, even though Tolle didn't talk about SR.

I believe there is truth to be found in almost every philosophy.. even when someone's lying.. there's still truth there

We are the lies and we are the truth.. So I'm sure.. I could see a perspective where I share ideas about SR.. it's still just a subject and a framework.. I don't totally get.. it often reminds me of existentialism.. or just over-complicating the idea.. "you create your own reality"

Originally Posted by sundance

- I like Bashar's parallel universe thing. The seth material also talked about similar concepts, so that's a good validation.

Yes, realities is sometimes a tough thing for me.. as I stated.. bashar has almost stated that we are all in the matrix.. that people around us are *real* but there our versions of them.. it's hard to explain/accept.. but I would just assume he's somewhat right.. the bottom line truth of it all is..

It's your life.. and I suggest you do what you want at all times.. and anytime any one comes at you with.. "These are the rules and this is how we play" do your best to ignore them, side swipe them.. or go around them

Originally Posted by sundance

BTW, how do you study Bashar? Where do you find a good source of material? Do you mainly listen to the youtube videos, or do you go to The Official Site of Bashar channeled by Darryl Anka ?

I have collected lots of bashar material off the internet.. Your welcome to a copy.. if that'll help you out?? (darryl goes out of his way to have a lot of the youtube material removed.. but they don't bother with the old stuff.. you can still find older channeling's on there)

Originally Posted by sundance

BTW, I joined Jim's level 2 programs, although I haven't done much because I was reading about SR theories lately. But very likely I'll see you at the mid-year program

There's a chance I'll repeat it, yah..

So you've taken level 1..?? I was just asking norman the only other person on here.. that I'm aware of that is taking it.. (I'm guessing he's in your class if your ma10?)

I will be at the 10-10 thing.. (most likely) but I'm guessing you're not going.. but it's cool to hear someone else has joined

I think you will find it changing your life.. I'm only 7-8 months in.. but it seems to be working

Actually, I'm having some debate with anagogy and the idea of meditation.. did you meditate before MA level 1 (I assume you took it) and if so.. do you find it's changed your walking around space.. or meditations?

[eric132]

I read somewhere where you said that everything you think of really exists, so if that is true, does it mean that family guy and other cartoons is a reality in a parallel universe.

[themaster]

Yep, quite possible.. have you ever seen this movie..?? Cool World (1992)

or this one..

Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988)

These are some cool movies of us and a blending of our reality with others.. there's also a game that does that it's called "toonstruck"

As I explained to a certain someone.. are movies are us..

It's more than possible to exist in a cartoon universe and or create one.. Now, would you want too..?? that depends on you..

Bashar is the one that states "anything you imagine exists, somewhere or somehow"

This includes ideas like the Devil.. but he often adds "that existence may not be as you imagine it" he adds that to say that being the Devil or in "Hell World" Might not be as bad as we think it is..

[Rainsong]

Originally Posted by themaster

Yep, quite possible.. have you ever seen this movie..?? Cool World (1992)

or this one..

Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988)

These are some cool movies of us and a blending of our reality with others.. there's also a game that does that it's called "toonstruck"

As I explained to a certain someone.. are movies are us..

It's more than possible to exist in a cartoon universe and or create one.. Now, would you want too..?? that depends on you..

Bashar is the one that states "anything you imagine exists, somewhere or somehow"

This includes ideas like the Devil.. but he often adds "that existence may not be as you imagine it" he adds that to say that being the Devil or in "Hell World" Might not be as bad as we think it is..

"anything you imagine exists, somewhere or somehow otherwise you wouldn't be able to imagine it." - one of the most amazing things I have ever heard in my life, even greater than "you control reality"

From what I know every reality has it's vibration and via vibration matching can we enter that reality. But I remember Bashar saying something like you can do and experience anything within the limits of any given reality. Does that mean that if we go beyond the limits we switch to another reality or does it mean there are actually limits to what you can experience even when shifting to alternate earths.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Rainsong

"anything you imagine exists, somewhere or somehow otherwise you wouldn't be able to imagine it." - one of the most amazing things I have ever heard in my life, even greater than "you control reality"

From what I know every reality has it's vibration and via vibration matching can we enter that reality. But I remember Bashar saying something like you can do and experience anything within the limits of any given reality. Does that mean that if we go beyond the limits we switch to another reality or does it mean there are actually limits to what you can experience even when shifting to alternate earths.

Ahh.. big, big questions

Let me give you another piece of advice bashar has said.. Bashar says it's possible to build a time machine.. But what he said about that was not that you would travel through linear time.. But that you build a "permission slip" to alter your reality.. so when you went to 1940's germany it would not be the real one per say but a recreation.. and a new a reality.. (yes, he's also stated if you kill the past you.. you live.. because after all time's not linear.. it has no bearing on your existence )

In much the same way I was saying that the new movie *inception*'s dream idea is also a "permission slip" to build new reality's.. course in the movie as in all our moral tales.. there was downside.. those dreamers could no longer dream..

Let me be honest and say that in my experience.. changing reality is both easy and hard.. if you're trying to do the idea "A Yankee in King Author's Court" it seems to me that.. that is just a hard way to do it.. (I have no experience accomplishing it)

My plan is simple.. make the unconscious, conscious.. learn how to strut my brain and or knowledge in the 4th, 5th and 6th dimensions and using the "Rays of creation" to create what I want.. that seems to be the path to the holodeck as a *real* thing you can do.. I know of no other as of this awareness..

Bashar says you change reality's all the time.. but how you really flip to 1940's germany or other places seems far and away "unable to do" at this time.. (what I'm saying is the method seems not easy.. compared to hearing the information )

And the real question if you could would want too..??

If you held a device in your hand.. and you built it and it's called a "time machine" and you know how it works.. you'll feel safe in using it.. however, if you realize like I do that the DEVICE is a illusion.. and the "permission slip" works through our head/awareness.. and you tried instead to not build the device..

Are you so sure, you'd want to travel? Our thoughts are fleeting our minds dance around.. yet, my understanding of "new age" knowledge and news is.. "instant manifestation" is coming to everyone.. everywhere..

And there are a lot people that haven't cleared there space and energy.. and the day that's turned ON.. they're going to very frightened and manifesting a lot of FEAR

That's what I'm saying consciously.. we don't always seem to be AWARE or able to take on our manifestation powers.. (I know that sounds stupid.. but that may be the case.. )

Originally Posted by Rainsong

From what I know every reality has it's vibration and via vibration matching can we enter that reality. But I remember Bashar saying something like you can do and experience anything within the limits of any given reality. Does that mean that if we go beyond the limits we switch to another reality or does it mean there are actually limits to what you can experience even when shifting to alternate earths.

Let me answer this one more time..

Bashar says as do others.. that crazy people the ones that dribble in cups.. walk around can't have coherent conversations aren't crazy.. they just left behind there "shell" because there exploring "other awareness's"

What I'm saying is yes, you can leave the confinement and limitations that you understand for this reality but to do so renders you like them.. now, that's not "Bad" but the only other way to leave the "limits" of our understanding..

Is to download and gain *new* understandings within the limitation framework of our reality to new dimensions and new ways of being.. and new understandings.. that's really what I'm doing..

Hope that clears that up.. may be a simple answer but that's seems to be the "crux" of what you want..

[eric132]

I have another question besides the one about family guy.

I saw toy story 3 today, it was awesome btw. I was wondering, could people talk to and make objects that we do not think are real talk ,too?, like in the toy story movies?

From my understanding, everything is consciousness, like ourselves, so that would mean anything that we make or produce is also from us and is consciousness too, right?

But I want your opinion on the Idea of people communicating with what we consider fake objects, like a desk, toys, a car, etc, and be able to hear a voice talk back to them?

And I already know that our society would call that a delusion. lol

[eric132]

to answer the question you asked me about the movies, No, I haven't seen either of them, but I will check them out when I get the chance to.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by eric132

I have another question besides the one about family guy.

I saw toy story 3 today, it was awesome btw. I was wondering, could people talk to and make objects that we do not think are real talk ,too?, like in the toy story movies?

From my understanding, everything is consciousness, like ourselves, so that would mean anything that we make or produce is also from us and is consciousness too, right?

But I want your opinion on the Idea of people communicating with what we consider fake objects, like a desk, toys, a car, etc, and be able to hear a voice talk back to them?

And I already know that our society would call that a delusion. lol

Yep, to answer the question.. it's all a yes.. you can imagine puppets or cartoon characters being real yes? How about a real barbie or ken doll? sure..

It can be done.. how easy is that?

I can't tell you in terms of trying to do it..

What's happening now is we're all returning to being psychic again.. many are not necessarily going to awaken to fully consciously realizing this for quite some time.. I certainly have a lot of work to do in that area myself..

One of the things that supposed to happen again is for both us and animals is that we will be able to talk to them again? Have conversations with cats (dogs.. I dunno maybe.. ) woodland creatures etc. for they are consciousness too are they not? And who's to say about insects too if there around..

You have to bare in mind a lot of species are scheduled to be "wiped out" who and how many.. I don't have that information.. that oil spill is scheduled to move many to the *new* earth meaning we'll being hearing some extinction like story's (lack based) from the news/science about it.. in the future

There's a interesting guy on a certain forum that has contact with a version of another part of himself or a future version or his guides etc. and it's interesting to hear him talk about it.. because there already planning a world he's going to create on his next incarnation.. or some information like that..

The more I learn about the "rules" for this reality.. the more I learn it's like a complicated illusion on top of a illusion.. on top of a illusion.. I mean look at what science likes to tells us about our bodies..

Were made of 1 million cells and there all individualized and have different dna to do this and there made of water and they replicate every 30 days and then there made of atoms which are then made of quarks..

And that's our reality in a nutshell.. a illusion, within a illusion, within a illusion.. built on layers and pieces.. so one thing I'm not clear about anymore when it comes to building the holodeck is if I'm responsible for having to build those layers of magnetism and connection to the earth and just a huge list of things that already exist here for us and our planet..

For example if I integrate my consciousness's as were all supposed to be dong.. I can't really build a 3d version of holodeck physically without then re-dividing my consciousness's back into conscious, unconscious and subconscious

And I can't build a 3d holodeck without the "linear time" element which is dissolving (right now).. etc. (it will be in Stage 4 by 2012) so I have to offer that the construction of the holodeck is either complex or hopefully simple..

And it seems the more I "step up" a fear that was voiced here.. 3rd dimension, 5th dimension, etc.? (specifically this is the post http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/589385-post23.html) the more I don't want to play the judgment game anymore.. (my original intention for the holodeck) so it's all confusing a bit.. yes

I was running a imagination scenario in my head about the holodeck just today or yesterday.. and I was acknowledging that who I become would never play in the holodeck (as I explained above.. things are ideas are dissolving for me somewhat..) so I imagined it this way.. I created a me from the year 2003 when I started the project.. and I acted as the A.I. interface for the holodeck.. and the conversation in the imagination went something like this..

2003 me: Who are you?

present fully conscious me capable of using the rays: I am you.. the one who created the holodeck to do so I had to "step up" a lot to build this..

2003 me: Ohh..

new me: I am the one that created you! (you are a copy of a old me!) I can read your brain and have disintegrated your consciousness's into 3 parts, but as you explore and have experiences you will begin to rebuild those pathways.. and I will be watching to keep them separated where needed to have this experience.. when you have a experience I will receive a copy of it into my awareness.. it will be integrated..

And this about where I'm going to shut up.. but that's how my 5 minute imagination scenario went..

One thing to understand about reality if I haven't explained it well.. yet is again we are in the holodeck.. this is not constructed exactly for "control" per say it was constructed for "relationship" with our fellow gods.. which is why each one around you is here.. interacting/engaging etc.

Such as the real holodeck might be constructed too.. but anyway..

What I want to say is.. we already here are not complete.. and not whole.. we do not have the holistic overview of why we chose to be here etc.. and the idea of going home or "returning to who we are" is to bring our perspective into balance into merging with the perspective we choose to come from/here from..

That is what this shift lifetime is all about.. we will know our other selves as they exist.. we will will become the perfect version of ourselves that knows to play the piano.. from lifetime b (yet, we may only retain the piano part not remember the nasty bits of that lifetime)

So what I'm saying is.. the holodeck is designed to merge *old* you with a *new* you.. and they become one.. such is what is already going on in this reality and what we're doing.. were merging with ourselves.. in the time of the shift..

We will still be "separate" from the one.. but some of us will learn our intentions of why we came to earth.. what our plan was for here etc.

True 4d and understanding of law of attraction is going to give us everything we ask for.. everything! But Jim likes to say that there will come a time when we've had enough of the "physical" and getting the house on the beach we wanted etc. and we will choose to step up into 5d or as he likes to say.. say "there's got to be more" and then some of us will no longer be physical.. (going back to: from whence we came)

(to understand that comment.. is to understand that at one point in our evolution.. there was no physical experience.. it can kind of be seen in a linear time order.. and we came down here and populated the physical with our essence/souls.. and so there will be a time where we will transition back to essence/souls or called higher dimensions/densities)

Does that help? Or is that just a lot to take in.. lol

[eric132]

you explained it pretty good, especially about how we are all complex illusions, another thing that is a complex illusion would be a car engine etc.

It is neat to hear that since I read up on science a little bit.

that being said, do you think that when the earth was believed to be flat it really was flat?

[themaster]

Originally Posted by eric132

you explained it pretty good, especially about how we are all complex illusions, another thing that is a complex illusion would be a car engine etc.

It is neat to hear that since I read up on science a little bit.

that being said, do you think that when the earth was believed to be flat it really was flat?

I think anythings possible.. but no I'm not sure the earth I'm on at the moment was ever flat

If you really want to know you should consult a channel or the akash

What I know is I can imagine the earth being flat.. the water running off the edge as seen and described in "Discworld" and I believe it may have also been featured in "Baron Muchassen" "Erik the Viking" and/or "Time Bandits" and so therefore I do say cause I can imagine it.. it exists somewhere.. somehow

[bahamuthat]

are there any fresh experiences from you guys trying to use "the holodeck"?


i believe this could be achieved through lucid dreaming. is there another way?