Female Pakistani minister shot dead for 'breaking Islamic dress code'

[sourceofmiracles]

This is a hot topic over at Digg.com on this news article:
Female Pakistani minister shot dead for 'breaking Islamic dress code'-News-World-Asia-TimesOnline

What good is religion if this is the kind of results it gives us?

@Cartoonal,
"The fact is, there are enough passages in the Q'ran/Bible/Torah (delete as appropriate) for anyone to be able to defend any position they want, or attack any opinion they want. Religion has served it's function, and it's time to grow up as a species and accept our OWN destiny, and our OWN choices, without excuses, without apportioning blame to a bearded old man/fat bald toff/six-armed woman/dog/cannabis plant (delete as appropriate) who cannot be questioned."

I agree. Many of the founders of modern Western Civilization/science were one believers of one of the big four: Q'ran/Bible/Torah/budda. Religions has been used to support every matter of evil and good. Q'ran/Bible/Torah/buddhism are steeped in cultural bias and fallacies that do not withstand the scrutiny of modernism/postmodernism. But it can (and has) served a worthy purpose.

Dawkins and other atheists call religion intrinsically evil. But it is clearly the USE of religions that defines us not the other way around. Religion is man made. Like all other man made objects Guns, nuclear energy, aircraft it is our USE of these things that can be evil.

Religion is just a tool. It can be used for enlightenment or for a political agenda or to justify killing people.

[Rocket Surgery]

Who ever said religion was any good for anyone?

Religion is a construct of self-righteous, power-hungry human beings who are clever enough to recognize the desire within most humans to avoid responsibility for their own lives.

Jesus did not create Christianity. The lesser-enlightened of his followers did that. He merely brought a message to humanity that has since been warped to serve the selfish needs of closed-minded control freaks.

Show me anybody with a marketable idea, talent, skill, or looks, and before one can say, "Piece of the action," a thousand leeches are climbing over each other to be first in line to exploit that naturally positive gift into material gain for themselves.

If I were King of the World, my first act would be to ban ALL religions from society. That does not mean, however, that I would ban SPIRITUALITY. I would simply outlaw any attempts to organize churches around any spiritual belief systems, as well as outlaw any proactive attempts to recruit others to subscribe to any particular belief system.

I would make it a crime to teach children -- public or private -- that any particular spiritual belief is any more true than any other. I would, however, ensure that all public libraries maintained sections that covered ALL spiritual philosophies and theories, so long as they contained within their tenets respect and loving allowance for all beings to freely believe to the contrary, (or not at all), as well as being devoid of any support for any negative behaviors and attitudes.

That done, if people chose to pray towards Mecca 5x a day, or put fish symbols on their cars, or wear aluminum pyramid hats in the desert, I could not care less. Each is a unique path to God, and so long as the person behaves in a postive manner and doesn't go around trying to push their beliefs on anyone else, I support ANY expression of one's spirituality, no matter how weird it might seem to others. Seeking to know God is never a bad thing. Religion, however, has proven to be quite a bad thing, indeed.

~ RS

[dor]

Originally Posted by Rocket Surgery

Who ever said religion was any good for anyone?

Religion is a construct of self-righteous, power-hungry human beings who are clever enough to recognize the desire within most humans to avoid responsibility for their own lives........

If I were King of the World, my first act would be to ban ALL religions from society. That does not mean, however, that I would ban SPIRITUALITY. I would simply outlaw any attempts to organize churches around any spiritual belief systems, as well as outlaw any proactive attempts to recruit others to subscribe to any particular belief system.

I would make it a crime to teach children -- public or private -- that any particular spiritual belief is any more true than any other. I would, however, ensure that all public libraries maintained sections that covered ALL spiritual philosophies and theories, so long as they contained within their tenets respect and loving allowance for all beings to freely believe to the contrary, (or not at all), as well as being devoid of any support for any negative behaviors and attitudes.

That done, if people chose to pray towards Mecca 5x a day, or put fish symbols on their cars, or wear aluminum pyramid hats in the desert, I could not care less. Each is a unique path to God, and so long as the person behaves in a postive manner and doesn't go around trying to push their beliefs on anyone else, I support ANY expression of one's spirituality, no matter how weird it might seem to others. Seeking to know God is never a bad thing. Religion, however, has proven to be quite a bad thing, indeed.

~ RS

sounds like you're pretty self-righteous and power hungry yourself.

I suggest you read up on attempts by similiarly 'enlightented beings to ban religion - Revolutionary France eg "the reign of terror' is one example. Communism is another - they ended up knocking off about 120 million.

Oh i know YOU wouldn't hurt anyone who didn't listen to you

Religion, however, has proven to be quite a bad thing, indeed.

so has government, philosophy science (used to create nuclear devices, social darwinism) the concept of equality (see communism, above) and host of other things, by your standards.

[sourceofmiracles]

"Seeking to know God is never a bad thing. Religion, however, has proven to be quite a bad thing, indeed."

Once again, I don't believe that religion in and of itself is bad. Further, the intentions of a given religion are many times good (I can think of some that did not of good intentions toward anyone but the creator).

However, like any TOOL, people can use religion for good or evil or (if you are a moral relativist) create and destroy.