|01-28-2010, 03:44 AM||#1 (permalink)|
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Limits of space are God!
The unimaginable God is beyond vision [invisible] and beyond imagination [unimaginable]. Some entities are imaginable but invisible like cosmic energy. The cosmic energy was also unimaginable for some time, when the science was not developed. The cosmic energy was temporarily unimaginable and this does not mean that there is no permanently unimaginable. The roof of the house is temporarily untouchable, but after some practice of high jump, it can be touched. The cloud is permanently untouchable because you can never touch the cloud by high jump in any time in the future. Hence, the cloud is permanently untouchable. You may argue that by taking an aero plane even the cloud be touched. Now you may argue that there is no permanently untouchable item in view of the advanced technology of science. You can never touch the boundary of the universe with the help of any technology of science in any time in future.
This is permanently untouchable item. You can never reach the boundary of this universe. Imagining a compound wall is assumed. If such compound wall exists, what is present beyond the compound wall? Therefore, the boundary of universe is always unimaginable and stands for the unimaginable God. This means that God is beyond the creation. Islam considers a wall as the representative of God. The significance is the wall stands for the boundary of this creation which is unimaginable God. Therefore, you can never see or even imagine the original God.
The unimaginable events performed by God, which are called as miracles also indicate the unimaginable God only. But, even these miracles require imaginable and visible media to establish the concept of unimaginable nature. A boy called Krishna lifted the huge mountain with His tender finger. The boy, the mountain, the tender finger and the process of lifting are imaginable and visible items only. All these established the existence of unimaginable nature of tender boy lifting the mountain. This unimaginable event is a proof for the existence the very unimaginable nature called as God. The performer of this unimaginable event must be the possessor of God. The human form alone can preach the knowledge and clear all the doubts. The human form is the complete representation of all the items of the nature, which are the five elements, life, mind and intelligence. Therefore, inert items which are composed of five elements only cannot be the complete medium. Even the living beings like birds and animals having life and mind are also not the complete medium.
Some birds and animals possess intelligence to some extent. The human form alone is the complete medium possessing all these items of nature. It also has the capability of expression through perfect language for preaching the knowledge to human beings. Hence, human form alone is the address of the medium of unimaginable God for the sake of human beings. Bhagavatam explains the importance of such human form of the Lord and therefore Shuka was the preacher of human form of
|01-28-2010, 07:27 AM||#2 (permalink)|
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|01-28-2010, 07:54 AM||#3 (permalink)|
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The Spiritual Knowledge and Logic
The spiritual knowledge or philosophy (Vedanta) is generally based on logic (Tarka). God is certainly above the logic and thus logic cannot touch Him (Naisha Tarkena -Veda). Nobody can show God by the indicating finger. Veda clearly states that God is beyond words, mind, intelligence and logic and the best way of explanation is silence about God. If that is so, there is no necessity of spiritual knowledge, because God cannot be known or imagined. Then what is the use of all these scriptures? Why are there so many discussions and debates?
Lord Yama says in Veda that angels and sages are still discussing about God and have concluded that God is unknowable. Here unknowable means unimaginable even to the logic. They have not conducted such long discussions to know simply that God is unknowable because it is not the object as my friend says! If God is said to be unimaginable, what is the subject of discussions? The answer is that the logic used in long discussions is not about God but about the Non-God entities (items of creation). Certainly, we cannot know God by logic or by any other means, but we can use the logic to reject a Non-God item projected as God. When you say that awareness is God, we will use the logic and see whether awareness is an item of creation.
If it is an item of creation, certainly it can be analyzed by logic. If logic fails to analyze it, certainly we will accept it as God. Similarly we shall apply the logic to several entities rejected as God and see whether any item is beyond logic.
The logic is the analytical faculty supported by practical examples, which stands as experimental verification. The ancient Indian logic was developed based on practical examples like mud pot etc. The advancement in logic took place from time to time and the logic was more and more sharpened. The authoritative parameters (Pramanas) have improved in number and therefore the schools of Nyaya, Vaiseshika and Vedanta differed in the subject of logic. The number of Pramanas increased from 2 to 4 and finally became 6 in Vedanta. This shows the improvement of logic in course of time. Today science is the most advanced logic since the experimental verification was improved. Therefore if I am explaining the philosophy based on science, it means that the philosophy is more and more clear due to the advanced logic. I told you already that the logic (science) is only useful to refuse any item of creation as not God.
The creator cannot be any item of the creation. If creator becomes creation, there must be some other creator for this creator to become the creation. Ad-infinitum (Anavastha) results. Science disproved some conclusions of the earlier logic and this should not be misunderstood as refusing God. God is in no way touched because the earlier logic also was dealing with only the analysis of created items. Tarka means the analysis of the items of creation, which are indicated and understood by their corresponding names or words (Tarkyante Padarthah Asminniti….). God is beyond all the words and cannot be the understood meaning of any word and therefore, logic cannot touch God.
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