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Hey, For some time, actually several months now, I have noticed a particular effect I have on other people. When I'm in a really good mood, for no reason, people seems to be drawn too me? I'll explain. If I'm having a wonderful day where my awareness is raised alot thru meditation/intensity in the daily life many of my friends seems to call me a short wile after. Same thing with girls. If I'm feeling lonely and bad because this special girl wont call me she never calls me. But when I shift and forget about her and having this great time, for some reason she's calling me alot! This has lead me to this conclusion. When you desire something you are only pushing it away. When you forget about it all the things you previously desired are for some reason drawn towards you. It's really strange. I'm still trying to grasp this whole concept and try to figure out why it happens. Does anyone of you notice the same effect? When you feel good and get this feeling you dont need anything at all/dont care actually - people are drawn into your reality from long distance. It's not people I meet, it's friends I havent seen for several weeks... This is actually happening so frequently to me that I try to push away any desire that I might have towards other people or things that I want - just to get it. The best way to get things seems to not be concerned of the outcome? It's like the rules are "if you really really want something, dont get emotionally attached to it"...? Anybody got some light to share on this topic? Thanks Keep Last edited by Keeper; 10-15-2009 at 08:10 PM. |
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Never stop wanting things, for me this what keeps us alive - wanting and doing things to achieve them! With that you have to release your desires to the universe and believe they will come true - believe it - trust it will happen and act on it. And about the girl - maybe you should talk and get the situation clear between you two - discuss your expectations - OR forget about her and find some other girl who will appreciate your beautiful spirit and the lovely person you are! You seem like a great person to be around, there are not many happy people like yourself - it's a gift - let it grow - and give more of it to the world. |
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Thanks I get what you mean. I'll try to further explain. Perhaps a better explanation would be that when I get in a bad mood because I want something to happen and it dont - it gets worse. this will continue in a downwards spiral until I eather let it consume me or let it go. When I'm happy for just being, things come soo easy. If I dont get that emotionally involved in the outcome I can still want things and they come to me much faster. It's like: I want things that is not here --> they dont come --> I feel worse --> they still dont come --> I feel worse... etc... neverending spiral. If I'm happy things are: I'm happy. Things come to be --> making me more happy --> more things are coming --> even more happy --> more things are coming. My conclusion is rather that I must not get upset or put any emotional investment in things to get the good spiral into action. It's not that I dont care at all, I just dont expect things and then they will come... It's really strange... If talking a'la the secret it's perhaps me sending out a signal to the universe that I dont have things, and the universe does what I requested --> not giving me stuff... Edit: Perhaps that's what I'm doing when I'm "not caring"? I'm actually believing things to be true so I dont feel bad about not having them? LOA in action. When feeling bad about not having things the LOA push things away from you? Last edited by Keeper; 10-15-2009 at 08:42 PM. |
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I get what you say - the spiral - oh ye! From my personal experience's life happens for my highest good, I focus on good things and they come - I live a happy life, I take the spiral up. I also don't get attached - I let go. sometimes there are things we think we want but they are not for our highest good, it's great to want relationships but maybe not with that girl. Open up to the possibilities and if you know what works repeat it!! |
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Thanks for the feedback! So the trick is to let go of the things you dont have and make you feel bad for not having. Start focusing on things you have as step 1 (get happy). When things are on the roll you can start to attract stuff you dont have from "the happy place"? The trick here is to not get too attached to the things you dont have - still draw energy from the good stuff. This will open up the possibility to actually get the stuff you wanted in the first place? When reading this last text I actually think that's the way I do it sometimes. I actually dont care too much for the new stuff. If they come to me it's great and at the same time I really dont care if they dont come. It seems as this anxiety that they might not come (attachment) can trigger the possibility of the very same things dont show up at all? Just because you put too much emotion in them = signal to the universe that you are lacking the object = more of "not having the object"... It's like living in abundance-mentality of whatever you want, before you can get it... Thanks, keep Last edited by Keeper; 10-15-2009 at 09:25 PM. |
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I totally agree with this. When I was desperate for a relationship I felt like no matter how good I looked no one was interested. Now I just enjoy life and am not worried about having a relationship and I'm having lots of men and women interested in getting closer to me.
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Isn't your entire topic about loa in a way.. And the idea of being complete and whole in yourself.. and then suddenly being a needy person to be completed by other people.. as you probably know the idea is if you complete yourself.. you attract through the power of you.. you cannot gain power or love from others.. only self love is the key.. good enough? |
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The law of attraction is simply a magnifying glass for whatever vibration you are putting out. It is not that you have to give up desire, you just have to not be attached to the outcome of the desire. If you are attached to the outcome of your desire, it can only mean one thing: you fear the "not having". But in fearing the lack, you concentrate on the lack, and that is exactly what you manifest. When you are in your "happy if I get it -- happy if i don't" state of mind (what you identified as "not caring"), the key distinguishing factor is the fact that you were HAPPY. That emotion (of happiness) is your perception of the vibration you are putting out. It means your desire is not being vibrationally challenged by contradictory thoughts. If there were contradictory thoughts present, you would NOT feel happy. Contradictory vibrations are ALWAYS perceived as negative emotions. And you only feel those negative emotions (like fear and depression) when your focus is contradictory to your desire. And when you are contradictory, what you want doesn't happen. And when your focus is pure, what you want DOES happen, because you aren't resisting anymore. | |
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Guess that's what I take from it. The further I get away from the concept of a God having certain rules I'm supposed to follow, the more these seeming paradoxes dissolve. | |
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I think what people need to let go of is the idea that God has preferences. We are the ones with preferences, not God. Source is always sending everything out, because to it, it is literally ALL good -- all positive. There is no darkness, except when the stream of well being is resisted. There is no source of darkness. I wouldn't say that "being happy" necessarily means you have no thought about it. However, when you "let go" and aren't thinking about a given subject there is no resistance. And since the universe is disposed towards well being, when you "let go" of your thought, you automatically start flowing towards your desires. If a 2 ton object did not resist your push, it wouldn't require much energy to move it, as a thought example. Thinking positively, or optimistically, about your desires is like putting a motor on your boat, and/or speeding up the stream of well being that is taking you toward your desired manifestation. It is not a requirement for the eventualization of desire, but it certainly helps if you can think about what you want, rather than its absence. Sometimes people end up turning upstream when they try to speed up the stream, and it is better to just "let go" and allow the current to take them in its own good time. Trust the stream. | |
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Thanks Anagogy. Yeah you're right, I suppose you do have to keep thinking about what you want, otherwise how would you know that what you got was what you wanted? More paradoxes. I guess my mind is just trying to make sense of the "what you want/you cannot think of as not being there/yet in order to have it/you have to first realize it's not there to begin with in order to want it" vicious circle people get caught up in. I wonder if this is about duality... like if everything is connected, what you want is never separate from you.... it's not like you're asking for something to happen to you... you're just becoming aware of a new part of yourself. A manifested desire is like noticing your thumb for the first time "oh there's that part of me I hadn't noticed before aka manifestation!" Staying with the stream. |
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I absolutely loved this post. You articulated exactly what I have noticed for quite some time now. But I believe it is more than law of attraction or letting go of the desire of something. I think its more about if you are experiencing anxiety than you are not only thinking about what you desire you are thinking about NOT HAVING what you desire. Meaning you are focused on the lack of it, instead of what you desire. Anxiety is a very low vibration. On the flip side, when you are happy you are in high vibration and more in alignment with source. You know that saying that "With God all things are possible", So just replace source, love, whatever you find the higher source to be. When you are connected to that (being happy) all things are possible so the things you desire are free to flow to you. When you are in anxiety about not having them, you create resistance with your beliefs that you can't have them. I believe LOA is very basic and many people have touched on subjects far beyond that. We are all love, we are all god, etc... This being said, another reason things may not manifest when we are in a place of anxiety or fear is because we are disconnected from the source preventing anything from manifesting that is desirable. Like some people have said its not about not wanting it, its about not being attached to the outcome of it. Need = Fear. Fear = Anxiety and Pain. If you are happy and connected to source you manifest freely because you are source. Any emotion creates a spiral effect. Some serve us, others don't. I find choosing to be happy very powerful. In every choice in life, if we make the choice that would result in our happiness we would create a higher and higher vibration for our lives. GET HAPPY. |
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I think it's more like this: what you place your attention on expands in your awareness. At first it is just an idea, but then it keeps growing larger and larger in your consciousness till it spills out into the consciousness we call "physical reality" which is really just highly congealed thought. It would seem like "wanting" would reaffirm the reality of "not having", because after all, why would you want it, if it was already there right? But from my perspective, wanting is just the first step, it doesn't necessarily "bring" the manifestation, it just makes you aware of the vibration you are trying to strive for. The manifestation doesn't ACTUALLY happen till we move past "desire" and into "appreciation" for what we know is there already, vibrationally. For example, if you are starving, and "want" for food, it is VERY unpleasant. It merely highlights that which you do not have. So we would have to consider that a lack vibration. In the Abraham material, they clarify that when they refer to "desire" they are not talking about the feeling described above, but rather, they are talking about "the delicious awareness of new possibilities" as they call it. So it's more like a combination of fascination/curiosity/appreciation that seems to cause manifestation to occur, as far as I can tell. Quote:
When we manifest, we are simply "letting go" of our resistance -- letting go our ATTACHMENT to the belief in LACK. You just open up to the part of your consciousness that you were denying, or resisting awareness of. And BAM -- it pops into your reality and its particular and peculiar grouping of logic/thought gestalts. There is so much more there, but I will leave it alone for now. I've seen things in meditation, when I seek the highest level, the most profound truth, but words simply cannot articulate. I've got a LONG ways to go, but things I've wondered about for years are all coming together lately, like a beautiful tapestry. And I can FEEL your increasing spiritual light too, Cylon, I want you to know that. | ||
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In both cases, you are contemplating the object of your "desire", it is very much in your awareness, you are thinking/feeling about it a lot, but one is essentially already having what you want, and the other is reminding yourself over and over that you don't have it. Quote:
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Its probably because your thought through manifestation increases dramatically, especially with the coming times. If your energy is really high and your consciousness is moving with the flow your thoughts do so as well, so everything you require/want in the moment will quickly materialize into reality. The same thing happened to me when I was working on the website and need help writing content, after contemplating it for a while and trusting in the Universe, I got a reply from a friend who was really excited to start working with me. This was after 10 other people declined... |
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I have definitely experienced the same paradox. completely. On the other hand, there is the case where a person wants something, they start taking action to make it happen, and then good energy starts pouring in as well. So what is the difference between that kind of wanting, and the kind of wanting that shuts a person's world down and is counterproductive? I think that for me it is when I want something that I don't feel I can get. Deep inside, I feel like what I want is impossible - so this kind of wanting is wrought with anxiety, desperation, and it brings a lot of doomsday thoughts to the back of my mind. So I am not speaking for anybody but myself. But I know that I struggle with this. On a good note, this phenomenon can help give us signals if we are on the right path or not. Sometimes I've noticed that if I make a good decision people start showing up, good people. People who matter a lot in my life. For example I made a good decision about 3 weeks ago and then about 30 minutes later I got this wonderful email from my best childhood friend which she had probably just started writing as soon as I made this decision. She wrote that she'd tried to write a few other times that month but had been unable to. It's inspiring to think that the moment we start orienting ourselves in the right way good things will automatically start magnetizing towards us. |
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I know exactly what you mean, they call it the law of attraction, i guess it does make sense on a different level but i find that when im personally not worried and experience i get better results then trying to hard and hoping.
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Great statement here When we manifest, we are simply "letting go" of our resistance -- letting go our ATTACHMENT to the belief in LACK. I'm not quite 100% yet.. but I get the feeling that I will be in full on fourth dimensionality by late 2010.. or early 2011.. I rapidly want to accelerate and I don't see a need to stick around much (least not right now) | |
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