The 11:11 mystery is resolved!

[TimothyTang]

The 11:11 phenomenon is due to the quantum coherence effect. Parallel energy wave harmonics of the 11:11 2D parallel digits can easily be amplified by resident electromagnetic fields to interfere with individuals whose brainwave harmonics are in synchronized phase, adding together to create larger waves(constructive interference) that eventually leads to the triggering of consciousness to the source interference.

[joelr]

Wave harmonics don't have anything to do with random symbols though?
"11.11" is just a creation of man, clocks with 11:11 on them would not be the source interference that consciousness would be alerted to.

Numbers are just cultural symbols, in this case based on 10, but base 10 isn't even anything special, that's just our way of organizing numbers.

[TimothyTang]

Originally Posted by joelr

Wave harmonics don't have anything to do with random symbols though?

Regarding the 11:11 phenomenon, the focus is on parallel wave harmonics that come from similar aligning digits.

[celestialife]

Originally Posted by joelr

"11.11" is just a creation of man, clocks with 11:11 on them would not be the source interference that consciousness would be alerted to.

Numbers are just cultural symbols, in this case based on 10, but base 10 isn't even anything special, that's just our way of organizing numbers.

Very true! Numbers are our cultural symbols, and maybe 11.11 is humanity's subconscious gateway to connecting consciously with the source, the universe, in our personal lives.

[joelr]

Originally Posted by TimothyTang

Regarding the 11:11 phenomenon, the focus is on parallel wave harmonics that come from similar aligning digits.

How do you show that objects that show these shapes (11:11) have any type of particular wave function? The meaning of the symbols exists only in ones mind.
4 lines and 2 dots is as random as anything, it's wave function would only contain information about potential location and structure.

[joelr]

Originally Posted by celestialife

Very true! Numbers are our cultural symbols, and maybe 11.11 is humanity's subconscious gateway to connecting consciously with the source, the universe, in our personal lives.

Maybe, I don't know.
People claim to see not just 11.11 but also 11:11 and 1111. So it doesn't seem to be a specific number but more of a repeating pattern type thing.
It is catchy to the eye.

As far as numbers go, phi (golden ratio) is by far the number that we are all connected to, it defines beauty and is part of everything from small to galactic structures. It also is one of the most important #s in math, it shows up in all sorts of unexpected places. 1.61803398874989

I am a skeptic on 1111 matters but I did notice that it relates to phi in a few ways:

binary form 1.1001111000110111011…

and as a continued fraction
[1;1,1,1,1...]

as a continued square rootr
1 + sqrt(1+sqrt(1+sqrt(1+sqrt(1...))))

[TimothyTang]

Originally Posted by joelr

How do you show that objects that show these shapes (11:11) have any type of particular wave function?

The double slit experiment is a good example that the || shape has wave function. The 2 slits that act as the || symbol cause single particles that come through one at a time to behave like part of a wave, showing that the || shape does have its own type of wave function.

[joelr]

Originally Posted by TimothyTang

The double slit experiment is a good example that the || shape has wave function. The 2 slits that act as the || symbol cause single particles that come through one at a time to behave like part of a wave, showing that the || shape does have its own type of wave function.

In Young's experiment the single unobserved quanta passing through the slit does interfere with itself and create an interference pattern. However, this works the same if the holes in the screen are round, shaped like two number 2's, two number 3's, two number 4's or any random shapes.
The mathematics do not change.

1st part of interference equation:

n x lambda/D = X/L - D is the separation of the slits

where D = Pa-Pb - the probabilities of finding that the particle passed through slit A or B.

For 2 symmetric holes D=0

So we just need symmetry not two vertical lines (11). I'm still not clear on if this whole 11:11 thing is definitely numbers or symbols or could be symbols but they reference an actual number..?

But the actual thing here is more like 11:11. This would not work with the double slit experiment. Even just 1111. The interference patterns would be too complex to notice anything.

These patterns do not have a wave form that effects the DSE. The particles are the waveforms. They have their own wavelength, the slit does not have anything to do with that. The slits are nothing (holes) in a macroscopic screen that's wavelength is either collapsed OR collapsed to a very small length so it acts as a macroscopic object.

[TimothyTang]

Originally Posted by joelr

So we just need symmetry not two vertical lines (11). I'm still not clear on if this whole 11:11 thing is definitely numbers or symbols or could be symbols but they reference an actual number..?

But the actual thing here is more like 11:11. This would not work with the double slit experiment. Even just 1111. The interference patterns would be too complex to notice anything.

Not symmetric but parallel lines and symbols.

The interference patterns are never too complex for quantum coherence. However, the 11:11 symbols do create a clearer coherence than complex symbols.

Originally Posted by joelr

These patterns do not have a wave form that effects the DSE. The particles are the waveforms. They have their own wavelength, the slit does not have anything to do with that.

Of course the particles are the waveforms.

Particles come through the aligning symbols just like how particles come through the double slits, unless the symbols are black in color.

[Earnestine]

I think it is easy to miss the point about 11:11. Its not something you can really explain though observation or logic. Its something very deep and subtle. You just have to 'get' it.

11:11 is not really a mystery to be solved but a phenomenon to be appreciated. Anyway, the more extensive logic you use the greater chance of logical errors.

Also, this is my first post, so greetings to everyone! Long time lurker, though.

[TimothyTang]

Originally Posted by Earnestine

I think it is easy to miss the point about 11:11. Its not something you can really explain though observation or logic. Its something very deep and subtle. You just have to 'get' it.

11:11 is not really a mystery to be solved but a phenomenon to be appreciated. Anyway, the more extensive logic you use the greater chance of logical errors.

That's what ->YOU<- think.

[Diandra25]

timothy

exactly!each one of us feel the 11:11 diferently

to me is not something logical and it comes from our inner voice.

therephore my explanation for it is only mine.

as yours is only yours!

greetings!

[TimothyTang]

Originally Posted by Diandra25

timothy

exactly!each one of us feel the 11:11 diferently

to me is not something logical and it comes from our inner voice.

therephore my explanation for it is only mine.

as yours is only yours!

greetings!

Who cares about illogical subjective experience regarding the 11:11? This thread is about discussing ->the logical explanations<- for the 11:11 phenomenon. Any logical explanations are always welcomed. Duh.

[joelr]

Originally Posted by Earnestine

I think it is easy to miss the point about 11:11. Its not something you can really explain though observation or logic. Its something very deep and subtle. You just have to 'get' it.

11:11 is not really a mystery to be solved but a phenomenon to be appreciated. Anyway, the more extensive logic you use the greater chance of logical errors.

Also, this is my first post, so greetings to everyone! Long time lurker, though.

Greetings.

So if I use logic to decide that logic cannot be applied to 1111 because of a great chance of logical errors then if this statement is true it is also likely to be false.


In the simple case of seeing number 11:11 in lots of places I wouldn't apply the circular, self referencing recursion loop of logic that is sometimes applied to God. I think it can be sorted out.

Yesterdays magic is todays science.

[Diandra25]

timothy

i see that you are in the wrong place then...

you are on the spirituality,counsciousness and awareness forum-do that ring any bell to you?

disminssing someone´s opinion just cause it doesnt has a logical basis is a very ilogical thing to do.

i believe many who are here will show you that logic has always flaws,,but something that comes from within,from our intuition,rarely is false.

so....dont be judgmental on a place where ALL RESPECT is WELCOME.

[SmartAlx]

Originally Posted by TimothyTang

The 11:11 phenomenon is due to the quantum coherence effect. Parallel energy wave harmonics of the 11:11 2D parallel digits can easily be amplified by resident electromagnetic fields to interfere with individuals whose brainwave harmonics are in synchronized phase, adding together to create larger waves(constructive interference) that eventually leads to the triggering of consciousness to the source interference.

Wow. So you really liked this paragraph so much you decided to copy/paste it and create a whole new thread about it. I find that fascinating since your average Joe is not going to comprehend any of it. Not because the idea is so difficult. It's because of your jargon filled language. The concept isn't hard to understand at all.

It is wrong though, as I described in the thread you copied that from.

I'm telling you there is absolutely no mystery here people. It's not mysticism. It's not magic. It not even some high minded quantum effect. It's just plain old simple human psychology. It's GROUPTHINK combined with confirmation bias. It is completely easy to explain and to understand without resorting to overthinking. You ALL are overthinking this whole thing.

It begins with the desire to be special. You hear about people repeatedly noticing 11:11. They say they see it several times every week. They can't explain it. They say that when they look at the clock and see 11:11 they don't know why they looked at the clock at that time. They just had this urge to find out what time it was (even while they ignore the fact that wanting to look at a clock is by definition a spontaneous desire.) Then they discuss in wonder about the meaning behind it all and conclude that their constant reminder about the time makes them special. You want to be a part of this special crowd too, and before you can say synchronicity you find yourself checking the time at 11:11 all the time.

How to explain it??? Are you somehow synchronized with some cosmic mystical source guiding your light as it penetrates the essence of your chakra? Hardly. It's actually quite simple to explain. It's your subconscious mind. It happens to be a superior time keeper. Its responsible for a lot of biological functions that are dependent upon excellent timing so it stands to reason that it knows when 11:11 is. When it becomes aware of your desire to know that it's 11:11, if you happen to be near one of the clocks it knows about and you are in a ready state, say driving, or in an elevator, or walking down the street, it will simply alert your conscious mind to wonder about the time. Then you get this inescapable urge to check your watch.

Bam! You are a member of the 11:11 club. Aren't you special? No. Not really.

I know you don't want to accept it. After all, you want to be special. You want the explanation to be something more interesting than the mundane one I gave. But sometimes you have to put your wishes and preconceived ideas aside and accept occam's razor. This really IS the most plausable explanation.

Doubt me? Then try to find other number sequences like pi or Phi (I am in love with the golden ratio BTW). What if you heard that 1:23 is a magical time of the day? I guarantee that you would start to check the time at 1:23 a lot. But people already do make note of seeing all sorts of times: 2:22, 3:33, 4:44, 5:55, 3:14. These really are best explained psychologically. That's all there is to it.

Can we please put this to bed?

BTW Timothy,
Care to answer my reply in the other thread where you originally posted this?
11:11 Blog

Originally Posted by SmartAlx

And how do you explain people who see 2:22 and 3:33 and 4:44? *Those digits aren't parallel.

[Diandra25]

SmartALX

what about if you started to see the 11´s without really knowing all this stuff?imagine someone who see´s this repeatdly but not in clocks so much,but randomly for instance:

licence plates
outdoors
validation dates
etc etc

what if the person hasnt got a clue of this "special needing to be in this special crowd"....and still experiences this?

does it has any logical explanation?


i dont really perceive what is wrong with illogic knowing.

it is not "thinking" it is feeling... why do you guys have so little patience or respect for those who really dont care about if something is logical or not?

do we all want to be special?no....we already know we are special..we dont need nothing or nobody to tells us this no 11´s needed for that too...

the ones who understand what i am saying are the ones who simply choose not to enter discussions about this...this is one of those matters that each one of us has our own significance for it really

[SmartAlx]

Sure! You don't have to care about logic. Doesn't make illogic true though. Maybe being special isn't important to you. That doesn't break down the point. There are many reasons why your subconscious mind will alert you to 11:11. Just us talking about it plants the seed. It doesn't even take conscious desire really. Your subconsciousness has a mind of its own and will often see to work contrary to your conscious intent. When I first heard about 11:11 I did NOT want to start seeing it. Couldn't stop it though. Luckily I know that it's not spirits or source awakening me to the idea that I'm a lightworker. I know the true reason, subliminal messages.

And feelings? They aren't really worth much more than the hormones that create them. How many millions of people walk into a casino with a "feeling" (even a strong one) that they are going to win big, then walk out broke? Sure, some hit it big. But an equal percentage hit it big when they have a feeling that they are going to lose their money, so in the end it's nothing but the magic of large numbers.

I really don't want to take this topic off of the 11:11 (time) discussion. There are other threads where I (and other people) explain the psychological reasons why you might notice 1111 on serial numbers or whatnot. Follow the link in one of my replies in this thread... the one about 11:11 blog.

I have a blog article about this "phenomenon" scheduled to post at 11:11 on 11/11. I touch on both variants.

[joelr]

Originally Posted by TimothyTang

Not symmetric but parallel lines and symbols.

The interference patterns are never too complex for quantum coherence. However, the 11:11 symbols do create a clearer coherence than complex symbols.

11, 22, 33, 44, it makes no difference, D = 0 for any symmetrical pattern.
The slits can be any shape, "11" makes no difference.

Originally Posted by TimothyTang

Of course the particles are the waveforms.

Particles come through the aligning symbols just like how particles come through the double slits, unless the symbols are black in color.

The aligning symbols ARE the slits and again "11" has no significance in this experiment. I don't see any connection to this phenomenon in the DSE.

[TonyToneTone]

Maybe it's just a number that is very clear. For instance, if we saw on a blank white wall the numbers 12235345341111346534623145345 maybe it would be the 1111's that would stand out due to their clarity. Or it could mean whatever you want it to mean.

[whatinspiresu]

Originally Posted by Diandra25

what about if you started to see the 11´s without really knowing all this stuff?

This started happening to me maybe 3 years ago and hasn't stopped. When i first looked it up, there was hardly any information about it. only one website that said it was my 'angels'. ok. nobody was talking about it online. For all I knew, I was the only person in the world it was happening to. Sure felt that way to me, so i just lived with it.

About 6 months after it started, a friend sent me a link to Steves blog, where they were tucked away in the corner of his footer. I FREAKED... what does it MEAN? i was excited just that someone else even knew about it. I've also met one other person with it tattooed on his body. He wouldnt really talk about it.

Today, I still dont really know what it means, or how it affects my life. Nor do I question it. It's just there.

[Diandra25]

i understand.

the best thing is when we really find its meaning inside ourselves.

you will find it,if you ask yourself,or the Universe.

doesnt matter if it has a logical meaning or not-it only matters what you feel - how you interpret it and experience it.

[SmartAlx]

Why delude yourself when the truth is staring at you in the face. This "meaning inside yourself" philosophy is why we continued believing the Earth was at the center of the solar system for so long, even after evidence proved otherwise. Our feelings don't have much bearing on reality. But reality sure can affect our feelings.

[Diandra25]

smartALX

continue to believe in your beliefs and i´ll continue to believe in my own

they dont harm anyone,and are so pleasurable...my life is so much better too...why fool myself on believin in other+s beliefs?that is why i stopped from being part of any religion.

i trust myself and my intuition,i trust in all that i see within myself.i am free...and it is just an ilusion to believe that reality comes firts,and feelings come after....

the truth is that....each one of us has our own truth working for us.

relax!

[SmartAlx]

Do what you want, but one day you'll find that your beliefs did affect your life negatively. Granted, the 11:11 one is minor but there are so many others to worry about. Here's one that did affect your life negatively:

Why do young people get into more accidents than older people? Lack of experience? Sure, maybe a little, but a big reason is their faith in their personal reality. Young people feel invincible, but they end up getting into more car accidents. Their personal reality does not line up with true reality. So insurance companies charge the whole group more money. Had they (as a group) listened to their elders they wouldn't drive so recklessly, they would get into fewer accidents and insurance companies wouldn't charge them so much. See? Their "reality" DID negatively affect them, and it negatively affected the lives of all people under the age of 25.

[Diandra25]

i think you are mixing things

why do young people feel invencible?because they feel invencible.their feelings affect their reality. not the other way around.they feel like rebels right?so they will drive like one,and have the consequences...

but that only happens to the ones that arent spiritually attuned ( forgive me my prbable english mistakes,it is not my mother language..).

they run fast,drive fast,cause they like the adrenalline and usually,when someone is searching for adrenaline,it is cause they feel a void inside,they dont know how to fill it.so they will look for excitement things to do,drive fast for example...so their feelings did affected their reality in a negative way allright...but has nothing to do with seeing numbers and know intimately what they mean.

also---if you really know young people like them,you will also know that it lacks on them,this spiritual awakening.they crave for cars,for better houses and better girls or boys to date with...young people that were born in a capitalistic,egoic,money oriented society,

so yes...i will continue to have my own beliefs...and im 26.im one of those who dont drive fast andi dont have a car of my own so i dont pay any insureance,knowing that my money would be sucked into an ordinary pocket.

Life is what we think of it.nothing else.

[SmartAlx]

Originally Posted by Diandra25

i think you are mixing things

why do young people feel invencible?because they feel invencible.their feelings affect their reality. not the other way around.

But they aren't invincible. Their feelings do NOT affect their reality. That's my point. ALL young people have a sort of sense of invincibility. Boys drive crazy. Girls have sex too early. One thinks he won't die. The other thinks she won't get pregnant. But how many millions have been wrong about it?

Do you honestly think that 100% of all of those youngsters feel invincible because they are insecure and feel a void? That's ridiculous. There is no correlation between those two character traits.

[HAGITLOVE]

Originally Posted by celestialife

Very true! Numbers are our cultural symbols, and maybe 11.11 is humanity's subconscious gateway to connecting consciously with the source, the universe, in our personal lives.

I agree, I feel the connection is very strong at 11:11.
We (me and my freinds) call it cosmic kiss