question about reincarnation

[Rockchick26]

I've been researching a lot about reincarnation today but my question remains unanswered. If the purpose of reincarnation is to learn lessons each time and slowly evolve into the highest level of human possible, and if it's true we don't remember our past lives (I certainly don't remember mine! ) then how can we learn these lessons? It's like being taught a lesson and then you get amnesia and you're a different person, and you aren't going to remember what you learned!

I'm really hoping reincarnation isn't true because I don't want to live another life that I won't remember, I want to go to the next plane where I can enjoy my new form and be aware of myself. I don't want to go back to "not existing" as I felt before I was born.

[bman]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

I've been researching a lot about reincarnation today but my question remains unanswered. If the purpose of reincarnation is to learn lessons each time and slowly evolve into the highest level of human possible, and if it's true we don't remember our past lives (I certainly don't remember mine! ) then how can we learn these lessons? It's like being taught a lesson and then you get amnesia and you're a different person, and you aren't going to remember what you learned!

I'm really hoping reincarnation isn't true because I don't want to live another life that I won't remember, I want to go to the next plane where I can enjoy my new form and be aware of myself. I don't want to go back to "not existing" as I felt before I was born.

You nailed the hypocrisy of reincarnation 100 percent correctly.


The truth is we're all free spiritual beings. We're being tricked and trapped into this physical realm so we can continue to be slaves in this planet run by certain collective power/consciousness that intend to corrupt our spiritual development by decaying it with materialism, war, hate and violence.

Those of us who woke up and realized this must educate the others and spread the true purpose of our origins and potentials as spiritual beings.

That being said, the past memory could never be erased 100 percent. It is always in the subconciousness and the way to bring it out is through hypnosis.

The only problem is what you recalled might be traumatic... imagine having a clear image/vision of how you died.... that is going to haunt you in this life for some time if you're not ready.


So who're the culprits? They're whom many worship as GOD or GODS.


But they're not really GOD/GODS, they're not true gods. They're just highly spiritually enlightened beings but they're definitely not a benevolent entity.

They attempt to usurp the true GOD of natural order which may not even be as omnipotent as you think.


Beware of the light... do not be tricked by it after death.

You have plenty of time to find out the truth in the nether world before deciding if you want to go towards the light again.

You cannot just instantly go towards the light at the other side without actually learning what the other side is about first before you trust anything there.

You have as much lesson to learn about the other side and not just in this physical realm.

[Rockchick26]

I'm a little confused by your post LOL So you're saying we should be afraid of dying, afraid of seeing the light and going to it? How much can we learn about the other side, really? That's like saying "don't move to another country until you've lived there a while" well that's impossible. We can't know about the other side on THIS side. Only what people speculate.

But that isn't what my question was, really...I just wanted to know how we can learn all these lessons when our memories get wiped with each life.

And I also had another question that came to me as I was watching a video just now...if we are all reincarnated, then explain the population increase? We can't possibly be more than one person at a time, can we? If everyone that has ever lived is alive in another body now, who is inside all these extra bodies we've been creating? We certainly don't have nearly the same number as we did at any time in the past. So they're all new souls? How do new souls get created then when there was never enough bodies BEFORE for them to live in? That would mean that most of us alive today probably DIDN'T live any past lives because they haven't been enough bodies to go around! This is kinda making me laugh the way I'm wording it, but I'm seriously very confused about how this works!

[bman]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

I'm a little confused by your post LOL So you're saying we should be afraid of dying, afraid of seeing the light and going to it? How much can we learn about the other side, really? That's like saying "don't move to another country until you've lived there a while" well that's impossible. We can't know about the other side on THIS side. Only what people speculate.

But that isn't what my question was, really...I just wanted to know how we can learn all these lessons when our memories get wiped with each life.

And I also had another question that came to me as I was watching a video just now...if we are all reincarnated, then explain the population increase? We can't possibly be more than one person at a time, can we? If everyone that has ever lived is alive in another body now, who is inside all these extra bodies we've been creating? We certainly don't have nearly the same number as we did at any time in the past. So they're all new souls? How do new souls get created then when there was never enough bodies BEFORE for them to live in? That would mean that most of us alive today probably DIDN'T live any past lives because they haven't been enough bodies to go around! This is kinda making me laugh the way I'm wording it, but I'm seriously very confused about how this works!

All those souls have always existed but were tricked to come here and physically trapped in carbon bodies.


They have always existed and were all plasma life forms.

This is a prison planet. But you can choose to be a happy or a sad slave.

Pay attention and you will realize, you're a slave.

Slave to money.

Slave to the economy.

Slave to the society.

Slave to your body that would degenerate

Slave to your government.

Slave to your religion (and most don't even realise it)


The most saddest bunch of slaves are those who are religion followers.


People of the book, Christians, Muslims, Jews, the most misled/misguided slaves and the most spiritually ignorant and undeveloped souls destined to repeat their mistakes again and again.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

I've been researching a lot about reincarnation today but my question remains unanswered. If the purpose of reincarnation is to learn lessons each time and slowly evolve into the highest level of human possible, and if it's true we don't remember our past lives (I certainly don't remember mine! ) then how can we learn these lessons? It's like being taught a lesson and then you get amnesia and you're a different person, and you aren't going to remember what you learned!

I'm really hoping reincarnation isn't true because I don't want to live another life that I won't remember, I want to go to the next plane where I can enjoy my new form and be aware of myself. I don't want to go back to "not existing" as I felt before I was born.

The human level of experience is just a tool, for your whole self to evolve through the different intelligence levels of spiritual awareness. We come to Earth *FOR* the experience of forgetting the spiritual reality. It's part of the lesson profile. But your whole self never forgets it lessons from each life. After the cessation of your physical vehicle, your memories will come flooding back, and you will be able to collate the events from this life with your experiences from all the others. And you will then spend some "time" (not physical time) contemplating these things and then choose another incarnation.

But it may interest you to know that as our whole self evolves, its incarnational needs become more complex. This results in more complex incarnations. This has happened many times before. You incarnated in less complex incarnations before you incarnated in human form.

And when you have learned all you can from human intelligence level incarnations, you will move on to more complex ones -- ones where spiritual amnesia is virtually nonexistent. Eventually, you will transcend the need for incarnations all together.

Also, understand no one is ever FORCED to incarnate. A soul could well refuse to ever incarnate again, period. But they know incarnation is a shortcut to the ultimate source of being -- The One. Its difficult as an incarnate human to truly comprehend that primal drive to seek one's source.

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

And I also had another question that came to me as I was watching a video just now...if we are all reincarnated, then explain the population increase? We can't possibly be more than one person at a time, can we? If everyone that has ever lived is alive in another body now, who is inside all these extra bodies we've been creating? We certainly don't have nearly the same number as we did at any time in the past. So they're all new souls? How do new souls get created then when there was never enough bodies BEFORE for them to live in? That would mean that most of us alive today probably DIDN'T live any past lives because they haven't been enough bodies to go around! This is kinda making me laugh the way I'm wording it, but I'm seriously very confused about how this works!

You are assuming planet earth is the only world that hosts incarnate beings. There are innumerable such schools in the physical universe and other dimensions. A literal infinity of realities. And parallel realities. And souls. There are ALWAYS going to be more souls who want to come into bodies then there are bodies.

So to answer your question, the souls occupying the bodies now are simply other souls whom have been waiting for incarnational experiences. Or other beings from other worlds who want to "try out" the human form.

New souls are created when Source separates a portion of its infinite energy and gives it individualization. Although technically, the soul is not "new" as its consciousness has been around forever, albeit in another expression (God expression). But i think you get my point.

Oh, and a soul actually can live in two bodies at the same time (or more). Weird huh? But then, is it so hard to believe that if God can divide its soul energy to form us that we, too, can also divide our soul energy to have more experience?

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

I've been researching a lot about reincarnation today but my question remains unanswered. If the purpose of reincarnation is to learn lessons each time and slowly evolve into the highest level of human possible, and if it's true we don't remember our past lives (I certainly don't remember mine! ) then how can we learn these lessons? It's like being taught a lesson and then you get amnesia and you're a different person, and you aren't going to remember what you learned!

I'm really hoping reincarnation isn't true because I don't want to live another life that I won't remember, I want to go to the next plane where I can enjoy my new form and be aware of myself. I don't want to go back to "not existing" as I felt before I was born.

The idea is were everything... we like our experiences and ideas so much.. we create it all and experience it all...

Re-incarnation seems like some sort of justification for not living your life.. (like the way it's sold) rather than just a interesting truth to this world.. while I digress I think it can fire the imagination and wonderment

I think too many people want to explore ideas with it that are more negative.. such as writing wrongs etc. or perhaps neutral in studying there "other" lives more then their own..

[MiBeloved]

Try to broaden your definition of memory to include instinct, as well as to take Darwin’s ideas into play, whereby that instinct develops into changes in the genetic code.
In the next life or even in this life, information from the past live is available an instinct. Information collected in this life, will travel with the individual and manifest in a future life as part of his or her instinct and predispositions.
In that sense we are learning but it is a slow process and it involves subconscious factors which play out in our conscious minds as instinctual urges and mental predispositions or prejudices.

You said you are hoping that reincarnation is not true and that you do not want to live another life that you will not remember but that is all well and good as a desire. Besides that, it has no value. Take me for instance I was hoping that I could just stay awake all the time and just enjoy myself continually and I tried every positive thinking method in many of the books to change that but I am unable to.
Considering what the archeologists are telling us about the age of this planet and what the astronomers are saying about the age of the galaxy, it is really ludicrous for me to expect to cause this colossal thing to confirm to my will at this stage.
So there was a birch tree in Canada which read a book on positive thinking and how to create its own world and make things the way it wanted, and it tried it out hoping to remain with green leaves during the winter months but still it had to go into sleep mode every winter. I guess there is a limit to the effects of our positive thinking.

[simpo]

Originally Posted by bman

You nailed the hypocrisy of reincarnation 100 percent correctly.


The truth is we're all free spiritual beings. We're being tricked and trapped into this physical realm so we can continue to be slaves in this planet run by certain collective power/consciousness that intend to corrupt our spiritual development by decaying it with materialism, war, hate and violence.

Those of us who woke up and realized this must educate the others and spread the true purpose of our origins and potentials as spiritual beings.

That being said, the past memory could never be erased 100 percent. It is always in the subconciousness and the way to bring it out is through hypnosis.

The only problem is what you recalled might be traumatic... imagine having a clear image/vision of how you died.... that is going to haunt you in this life for some time if you're not ready.


So who're the culprits? They're whom many worship as GOD or GODS.


But they're not really GOD/GODS, they're not true gods. They're just highly spiritually enlightened beings but they're definitely not a benevolent entity.

They attempt to usurp the true GOD of natural order which may not even be as omnipotent as you think.


Beware of the light... do not be tricked by it after death.

You have plenty of time to find out the truth in the nether world before deciding if you want to go towards the light again.

You cannot just instantly go towards the light at the other side without actually learning what the other side is about first before you trust anything there.

You have as much lesson to learn about the other side and not just in this physical realm.

This is one whole load of crap... What kind of books or information have you been reading.

You obviously do not have any kind of direct experiences to talk about.

Yes, I have past life remembrances and i also have experience of formless/deep subconscious state. The rebirth is not controlled by anybody but is the 'seed' desire of your subsconscious mind. The subconscious mind has a priority that is different from the conscious or ego-human personality.

It is the very deep subconscious mind that is driving the rebirth.

[Dreamline]

Not all souls choose to reincarnate as soon as they die. There are as many souls as there are atoms in the universe. Those that do choose to reincarnate do so because they are spiritual warriors, heros, designated with the infinite honor of helping other souls grow and learn their life lessons. They choose to incarnate. When they are not incarnated, they are guides to help the incarnated remember their soul path.

So population growth on our fragile little planet is not even a drop in the bucket of soul potential. Six billion is like one cell in your body to the number of souls in our realm.

As far as the idea of coming back to incarnate being punishment of some sort, nothing could be further from the truth. For a soul, whose existance is infinite, 100 or so years incarnated as a paraplegic, or a person with addictions or a murderer or a mentally ill person, or a Hitler is a blink of an eye. But the work they do here is extraordinarily meaningful to those whose lives and minds they touch here, in this place. Those incarnations teach compassion and forgiveness and one-ness and gratitude and kindness in the face of adversity, love, unity, and they teach other humans how bad life can be if they veer away from those spiritual tenets.

As an incarnated soul, your goal should be to draw yourself as close as possible to those spiritual values even if your ego tells you otherwise and even if you cannot easily ascertain the meaning behind why you should. You just should. That part isn't rocket science.

Because you haven't had any glimpses of what your previous soul paths may have been doesn't make reincarnation untrue. I am 46 years old and was only given my epiphany this year. Some never are blessed with that knowledge. But I can say with all truthfulness that my current life is a direct reflection of what my previous soul paths were. Down to the clothing I choose.

So keep an open mind about this. It's vast and massive and important and doesn't deserve to be dismissed out of hand just because there is no proof easily forthcoming.

Jennifer

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by bman

All those souls have always existed but were tricked to come here and physically trapped in carbon bodies.


They have always existed and were all plasma life forms.

This is a prison planet. But you can choose to be a happy or a sad slave.

Pay attention and you will realize, you're a slave.

Slave to money.

Slave to the economy.

Slave to the society.

Slave to your body that would degenerate

Slave to your government.

Slave to your religion (and most don't even realise it)


The most saddest bunch of slaves are those who are religion followers.


People of the book, Christians, Muslims, Jews, the most misled/misguided slaves and the most spiritually ignorant and undeveloped souls destined to repeat their mistakes again and again.

Well this makes me happy then that I don't follow any religion and I agree with you on the rest of it! I have been thinking lately why do we even have to do all these things, live by all these rules, why can't we simply BE?

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by Anagogy

The human level of experience is just a tool, for your whole self to evolve through the different intelligence levels of spiritual awareness. We come to Earth *FOR* the experience of forgetting the spiritual reality. It's part of the lesson profile. But your whole self never forgets it lessons from each life. After the cessation of your physical vehicle, your memories will come flooding back, and you will be able to collate the events from this life with your experiences from all the others. And you will then spend some "time" (not physical time) contemplating these things and then choose another incarnation.

If we are here to forget spiritual reality, how is it possible that ANYONE is spiritual then? Are those people more evolved and closer to "leveling up" to the highest form?

Also, understand no one is ever FORCED to incarnate. A soul could well refuse to ever incarnate again, period. But they know incarnation is a shortcut to the ultimate source of being -- The One. Its difficult as an incarnate human to truly comprehend that primal drive to seek one's source.

yeah I learned that as I researched further...but those souls get bored eventually. I'd probably stick around in there for a while before getting bored though, as it sounds perfect to me!

[Dreamline]

Boredom is an earth-realm emotion.

There are great reasons why we forget our purpose here each time we incarnate. I love the Kabbalah explanations for this. In fact their explanations for almost all of what is mysterious about existance always seems to resonate with me as "truthier" than what I have been taught as a Christian, though much of it is similar, as you would imagine.

Jennifer

[Inspirations]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

I've been researching a lot about reincarnation today but my question remains unanswered. If the purpose of reincarnation is to learn lessons each time and slowly evolve into the highest level of human possible, and if it's true we don't remember our past lives (I certainly don't remember mine! ) then how can we learn these lessons? It's like being taught a lesson and then you get amnesia and you're a different person, and you aren't going to remember what you learned!

I'm really hoping reincarnation isn't true because I don't want to live another life that I won't remember, I want to go to the next plane where I can enjoy my new form and be aware of myself. I don't want to go back to "not existing" as I felt before I was born.

Hi Rockchick,

As you see by the comments, there are many new age "theories" about reincarnation. Many people talking about things that they have no experience of at all...

Since your question seems very genuine, I will share my personal experience of what you term reincarnation.

As my experience was nothing like new age theories, I called it 'other life'.

You know that part of you that smiles from within - when you are in your zone, and feel genuinely happy. I call that my inner self/true self/spirit. Now that part is not physical is it? It is an essence - we are each an essence of life.

As an essence we wanted to physically experience life. The joy of feeling everything - the good and the bad. But there are too many possibilities to physically experience in one lifetime, so we have many lives, to experience everything.

I found them all to be at the same time, in the same physical locations. I often walked into another lifetime as I would enter or exit buildings. I would know upcoming towns, or things that happened in a place that was new to me. It was all very strange.

As they are experiences, we have with our dear soul friends, it makes sense that we meet them over and over, and cross over and mix up all the experiences. Sometimes they carry into other lives, so we can finish what was started in another.

I met a man, who I knew from another time, and when he came up behind and put his arms around me, I collapsed as the other memory of the same activity flooded into me. He remembered me too, and we both remembered one particular event - that was left unfinished. I finished my part, by going right into the unconscious memory, and we made peace - and found love again.

So finish your business with people, unless you want to have the experience again at another time!!

If and when it is the right time for you to know things from other lifetimes, they will come (they already do without your realizing), but if you push to find them you can open a can of worms that you are not ready or able to resolve.

Where do you think those wonderful historic and love stories come from? How beautiful to remember other times and recreate them into books.

My husband and I have created a next life to walk straight into when we finish this one. We have dreamed of the story, and look forward to living it. We grow up next to each other and sit on the front steps as children, and have dozens of children and live a wonderful family life together. Yes this is possible.

Other lives are no more complex or 'out there' than changing your clothes and going out to do something different, or waking up after a long sleep. The only thing that makes them complicated and dramatic are the people who insist on analyzing rather than experiencing life.

The next plane is right here. In this physical world. In this physical body. Living free to be you in this physical world. Truly living the non-physical (your essence) in the physical.

It is a joy!

[Rhythman]

IMO, reincarnation is just another "my ego wants continuation" theory. None of these theories hold up to any sort of objective analysis.

Rhythman

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

If we are here to forget spiritual reality, how is it possible that ANYONE is spiritual then? Are those people more evolved and closer to "leveling up" to the highest form?

They are closer to leveling up to a higher form, yes. Not the highest level, but higher than the current level.

Originally Posted by Rhythman

IMO, reincarnation is just another "my ego wants continuation" theory. None of these theories hold up to any sort of objective analysis.

Really? What sort of "objective analysis" have you applied to them?

[jay78]

Haha, well if it makes any of you feel better, you will get to find out someday - 100% guaranteed!!

Whether it be tomorrow, or in a year, or in 50 years - you too will die, just like the trillions and trillions and trillions of people/animals/plants/dinosaurs who have died before you and the trillions and trillions and trillions of people/animals/plants/whatever species comes next will die after you.

It's a door you're going to go through - sorry but it's gonna happen - so worry more about what is coming before that door since what comes before that door is what you really have a lot of control over!

And ok, the comments from bman about this being a slave planet really need to stop. It's getting a LITTLE ridiculous.

[jay78]

By the way, not remembering doesn't equal never happened.

I don't remember being born but it happened. Don't remember being 1, 2, 3, 4, or even 5 for that matter...and that certainly happened.

Actually I barely remember 6 and 7 too, lol.

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by Dreamline

Boredom is an earth-realm emotion.

There are great reasons why we forget our purpose here each time we incarnate. I love the Kabbalah explanations for this. In fact their explanations for almost all of what is mysterious about existance always seems to resonate with me as "truthier" than what I have been taught as a Christian, though much of it is similar, as you would imagine.

Jennifer

Everything I've read so far about reincarnation has said that we can choose to stay in the next level before reincarnating or we can stay in that plane forever if we want, but they said most souls do end up reincarnating again because they get bored LOL That's honestly what I read in more than one place! Maybe they shouldn't have used that word LOL

The Kabbalah sounds interesting, that's one of the things I want to read up on, I'll have to add that to my growing list of stuff I'll never have time for!

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by jay78

Haha, well if it makes any of you feel better, you will get to find out someday - 100% guaranteed!!

Whether it be tomorrow, or in a year, or in 50 years - you too will die, just like the trillions and trillions and trillions of people/animals/plants/dinosaurs who have died before you and the trillions and trillions and trillions of people/animals/plants/whatever species comes next will die after you.

It's a door you're going to go through - sorry but it's gonna happen - so worry more about what is coming before that door since what comes before that door is what you really have a lot of control over!

And ok, the comments from bman about this being a slave planet really need to stop. It's getting a LITTLE ridiculous.

Oh, i'm actually looking forward to death, I am not afraid to be dead at all, I'm only afraid of dying in a slow miserable painful way. But honestly, some days if I could snap my fingers and be dead, I'd do it. And not in a depressing way, because overall i'm a happy person and don't get depressed, and I'm excited about my future, but I'm also excited to have all the answers finally!

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Rhythman

IMO, reincarnation is just another "my ego wants continuation" theory. None of these theories hold up to any sort of objective analysis.

Rhythman

Load of crap.. go spend some time in hypnotherapy.. go talk with some scientists studying re-incarnation.. go watch a few tv documentaries.. or omg do your own research and talk to some people.. and then just explain it all away as some kind of "ego" fear sell..

Even our own scientists say "energy can't be destroyed" only transformed..

[Rhythman]

Originally Posted by Anagogy

Really? What sort of "objective analysis" have you applied to them?

I have thoroughly investigated/analysed myself. My conclusion is there is no separate entity. Therefor, there is no thing to reincarnate or continue upon death of the body.

thanks
Rhythman

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Rhythman

I have thoroughly investigated/analysed myself. My conclusion is there is no separate entity. Therefor, there is no thing to reincarnate or continue upon death of the body.

thanks
Rhythman

So your saying.. all of us our "allthatis"/"same being" if this is what you’re saying this would be correct.. but it doesn't make a lot of sense to discard or reject the idea of reincarnation.. if this is your statement..

[Rhythman]

Originally Posted by themaster

So your saying.. all of us our "allthatis"/"same being" if this is what you’re saying this would be correct.. but it doesn't make a lot of sense to discard or reject the idea of reincarnation.. if this is your statement..

I have been unable to identify any particular thing that I can call "me". Therefor, I am no-thing. If this is my conclusion, the next question I have to ask myself is....What is it that reincarnates or continues after the death of the body? I can't come up with an answer for this. Perhaps others can.

Thanks
Rhythman

[MiBeloved]

Originally Posted by Rhythman

I have been unable to identify any particular thing that I can call "me". Therefor, I am no-thing. If this is my conclusion, the next question I have to ask myself is....What is it that reincarnates or continues after the death of the body? I can't come up with an answer for this. Perhaps others can.

Thanks
Rhythman

Your mental energy and emotional energy is what continue on to the next body but that does not mean that your objective sense of that will continue. It won't most likely.

We are already experiencing this in dreams in the sense that sometimes in a dream even though you are objectively aware, you are not in touch with your social memories from your physical life. You assume a new identity and you do not pick back up on yourself until you wake up again here as the physical body.

The difference between dreaming and death is that dreaming becomes your permanent state at death and there is no more waking up on this physical side to reclaim your social role and activities here.

[MidasGirl]

Originally Posted by bman

All those souls have always existed but were tricked to come here and physically trapped in carbon bodies.


They have always existed and were all plasma life forms.

This is a prison planet. But you can choose to be a happy or a sad slave.

Pay attention and you will realize, you're a slave.

Slave to money.

Slave to the economy.

Slave to the society.

Slave to your body that would degenerate

Slave to your government.

Slave to your religion (and most don't even realise it)

So, your point is, we're f'cked, period. Oh well, I'll just be a slave to your posts then

The most saddest bunch of slaves are those who are religion followers.People of the book, Christians, Muslims, Jews, the most misled/misguided slaves and the most spiritually ignorant and undeveloped souls destined to repeat their mistakes again and again.

I knew you'd eventually write something I agreed with.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by Rhythman

What is it that reincarnates or continues after the death of the body?

Different versions of you.. with different circumstances and limitations.. (if this reality) but still you and can ultimately be linked to your last incarnation if you so wish

If everything is going on right NOW.. Elvis, Hitler.. EVERYTHING.. then from that standpoint.. I could see why you don't like the word re-incarnation..

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by Rhythman

I have been unable to identify any particular thing that I can call "me". Therefor, I am no-thing. If this is my conclusion, the next question I have to ask myself is....What is it that reincarnates or continues after the death of the body? I can't come up with an answer for this. Perhaps others can.

Thanks
Rhythman

I've been told it is "awareness", or just a "consciousness". Basically the same feeling as when you meditate and feel like you're not in your body all the way. But then I get confused when it comes to sleeping, because if your body is sleeping, but youre awareness/consciousness can't sleep, then why aren't we aware of when we're sleeping? yeah we have dreams but it's subconsciously. I should start a new thread for that question, I just came up with it now and now i'm really confused how that is possible!

[Rockchick26]

Originally Posted by MiBeloved

Your mental energy and emotional energy is what continue on to the next body but that does not mean that your objective sense of that will continue. It won't most likely.

We are already experiencing this in dreams in the sense that sometimes in a dream even though you are objectively aware, you are not in touch with your social memories from your physical life. You assume a new identity and you do not pick back up on yourself until you wake up again here as the physical body.

The difference between dreaming and death is that dreaming becomes your permanent state at death and there is no more waking up on this physical side to reclaim your social role and activities here.

This kind of continues with my previous question about sleeping, but dreams only happen when our BRAIN is in REM sleep...therefore if we have no body, no brain, how can we "dream"?

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Rockchick26

I've been told it is "awareness", or just a "consciousness". Basically the same feeling as when you meditate and feel like you're not in your body all the way. But then I get confused when it comes to sleeping, because if your body is sleeping, but youre awareness/consciousness can't sleep, then why aren't we aware of when we're sleeping? yeah we have dreams but it's subconsciously. I should start a new thread for that question, I just came up with it now and now i'm really confused how that is possible!

You just forget. Just like with the reincarnation thing. Awareness cannot become unaware -- at least, that's what my experience has taught me.