Truths in christianity

[reveal]

I have been recently pondering things in christianity that I previusly would had thought were just things made up to manipulate people.

for example.

"Your god is a jelous god" Thinking about it. This really can't been if you worship other gods god will smite you. As there is only one god, if any. I think this just means. If you are not in alignment with god (the univerise) then you wont get the help from god. If you are not in the moment it will be like god is jelous as you are not in the truth and love of god. So you won't get the benafit.

Also "god created you in his image" okay. Humans arent really the humans themselves. There a reaction to a series of forces outside of him. The human has no free will. So this can't mean a human. It must mean everything that creates the human. basicly. This world is a reflection of consousness itself. A projection. God is projecting this world for us.

Any additions welcome.

Thanks

[mirandaom]

Maybe God is love, creating love is the manifestation of God, and we were created in the image of such. From love we come to love we go. WE ARE LOVE! And as such, we are also gods.

[reveal]

Originally Posted by mirandaom

Maybe God is love, creating love is the manifestation of God, and we were created in the image of such. From love we come to love we go. WE ARE LOVE! And as such, we are also gods.

Im confused as your definition of love here. I feel love is only experianced when one part of something notices something else i also it. and embraces this. I would go as far as saying love can be like joy. but for joy the nessesry of values and contrasts is needed.

[mirandaom]

I don't want to take away from the original topic, but in a nutshell, I am only saying I believe love is many things. In essence, however, love is creation. Oh, it's a complicated theory I am not sure I can adequately express using mere words. That is, I said I didn't want to go off topic, so I won't, here.

[reveal]

Originally Posted by mirandaom

I don't want to take away from the original topic, but in a nutshell, I am only saying I believe love is many things. In essence, however, love is creation. Oh, it's a complicated theory I am not sure I can adequately express using mere words. That is, I said I didn't want to go off topic, so I won't, here.

I dont think it would be going of topic. alot of the jesus thing is about love. Him representing love ect. I dont get this. How can something like existance itself be defined as love. A human emotion.

[torilink]

Originally Posted by reveal

I dont think it would be going of topic. alot of the jesus thing is about love. Him representing love ect. I dont get this. How can something like existance itself be defined as love. A human emotion.

Is the love Jesus spoke of "A human emotion", or something much more than that?

For me Love is complete acceptance, this is not human emotion it is very non emotive.

It really depends so much on how you define love.

[Dreamline]

I interpret "made in his own image" to have nothing to do with looks. God is the creator, therefore we are also creators. With regard to LOA, and intentional manifestation, we are literally mini-Gods.

I find that Kabbalah is the best way to interpret Christianity, ironically.

Jennifer

[MidasGirl]

Originally Posted by reveal

I have been recently pondering things in christianity that I previusly would had thought were just things made up to manipulate people.

for example.

"Your god is a jelous god" Thinking about it. This really can't been if you worship other gods god will smite you. As there is only one god, if any. I think this just means. If you are not in alignment with god (the univerise) then you wont get the help from god. If you are not in the moment it will be like god is jelous as you are not in the truth and love of god. So you won't get the benafit.

Also "god created you in his image" okay. Humans arent really the humans themselves. There a reaction to a series of forces outside of him. The human has no free will. So this can't mean a human. It must mean everything that creates the human. basicly. This world is a reflection of consousness itself. A projection. God is projecting this world for us.

Any additions welcome.

Thanks

Most religions are darkworking entities (to use Steve's labels). They are fear-polarized, in fact very strongly. They thrive on the 'us versus them' mentality. Their survival is dependent on scaring their followers into submission. Actually since I really "got" this polarization concept I feel I am very understanding of why christians are the way they are.

So saying god is a jealous god is not out of the ordinary for a fear-polarized religion. Being created in god's image? I have no idea why anyone inserted that in the bible, other than perhaps that the original teachings were focused on showing the superiority of the male form, ya know? And poor woman had to be created out of the rib of a man, which is to imply she must forever be dependent on him.(And was woman also made in god's likeness? And if so, does that mean god was a hermaphrodite of sorts? And if not, of whose image was woman then created?) But like Jen said, the more untraditional view of interpreting "in his own image" is that we are "of God-consciousness"

Think about it, what if Christians were all of a sudden told there is no reward for being saved, no "assurance" of a ticket to Jesus' heaven, no having to answer to God for not preaching to their neighbor. Do you think they'd still do it? Fear of hell keeps them in line. Fear polarization at its mightiest.

BTW, if you feel you don't resonate with those types of religions, or you'd appreciate a more love-and-oneness focused outlook, you are just not someone that resonates with fear-based energy. Not that there's anything wrong with those it works for.

[Ezekiel2517]

I think there is much truth in Christianity - as there is in all religions. In my opinion, you will find many good things in religions such as Buddhism, Hinduism and Islam that you will not find in Christinaity, and vice-versa.

Like all things in our reality, religions are basically good, but have been infiltrated to some extent by the dark-side - some more than others.

In my personal experience, I was going through a very difficult time and it was Jesus that saved me, so in my experience, Christianity would have a special place among religions. But perhaps this is because I had a Christian upbringing?

I do know that many people who are said to be 'enlightened' will tell you that the ultimate truth is beyond any religion and my intuition tells me that this is probably true.

[ComplicatedSimplicity]

Im pretty sure the 'man created in gods image' quote is true. As in our body, physically. As we have the perfect body. maybe not the heart and spirit, but body- ie. 2 legs, 2 arms, head, torso, fingers.etc etc........

[chrisrushton]

Originally Posted by mirandaom

I don't want to take away from the original topic, but in a nutshell, I am only saying I believe love is many things. In essence, however, love is creation. Oh, it's a complicated theory I am not sure I can adequately express using mere words. That is, I said I didn't want to go off topic, so I won't, here.

one word, love, doesn't do justice to the emotion. the greeks needed 3 words to cover love. eros (possessive, lustful) philos (love of something you have, contentedness) and agape (love without love, what god feels for people). Agape was introduced as a direct consequence of Christianity since neither of the other two words conveyed the feeling of god's love.

[JMan]

Originally Posted by Ezekiel2517

In my opinion, you will find many good things in religions such as Buddhism, Hinduism and Islam that you will not find in Christinaity

For Example?

[truthisgold]

Ezekiel2517, Its nice to find some sanity among the confusion expressed here. As one who has experienced "enlightenment" I find your words truer than most. The greatest spiritual and religious people are enlightened as well and religion is an attempt to convey this knowledge to the masses. For instance the Catholic phrase,"Peace be with you" wishes enlightenment upon an another. For when one is truly enlightened they are at peace with themselves. In actuality, they are not at peace, they are not in conflict, there is nothing to be resolved, but the expression is the closest way of conveying the feeling in that state of mind.