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Greetings, For those using or trying Centerpointe Holosync: -What is the actual cost to get the full benefit of the program? It seems to me that just getting the first set ( "Awakening Prologue" ) will not give me the full benefit. How much is the entire program? Any comments from experienced users will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! |
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| Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK
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The full course (all thirteen levels) is around $2000. You pay between $140 to $240 (ish) dollars for each level + shipping + any import tax. There's also a $20 fee if you want to change your affirmations. For the later levels you will need a bloody good set of headphones; unless you already have the Sony MDR7509HD's, factor on getting those. Any set of headphones that can deliver 5Hz frequency will do, but these Sony's are the only ones I've found that do that. I swear I bought mine for ~£50, but I can only see them advertised for £150+ now. Centrepointe also sell these at a reported discounted price. You will also need something to play the files. I'm using a MP3 player that plays the WAV files I've extracted from the CDs. The Dive and Immersion both take up 350MB of space. N.B. don't compress the files to MP3, WMA or similar as that strips the Holosync signals from the files. I wouldn't recommend using FLAC either as I 'felt' some extra juice when I switched to WAV files. And finally, the whole program is meant to be a ten year journey. The $2000 doesn't have to be an up front payment, although they will quite happily take the money Addendum: You also ought to factor in the cost of spending one hour of your day, every day, listening to it! | |
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Thanks for the reply philipnet! This is very helpful information. Have you tried LifeFlow LifeFlow® Meditation Technology - Project Meditation or Deep Zen Meditation ? Deep Zen Meditation . |
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I haven't heard of Deep Zen Meditation so I won't comment on that. I have heard of LifeFlow and downloaded the trial MP3 from their site, but this was after I had started listening to Awakening Prologue. Long before I started listening to Holosync I listened to hypnosis and alpha brainwave inducing MP3s (and I still do that). None of those tracks had the same effect as Holosync on myself. For the first few days of listening to Holosync I felt/experienced a mental effect that I can only describe as having both hemispheres of my mind forced into synchronization. After a few weeks I started noticing a beneficial change in my character; those changes have only increased. This was the first product I've found that has had this sort of beneficial effect on me. For me, I had already started down the Holosync path. The LifeFlow trial MP3 did not inspire me to go further with it, and I had decided that any MP3 product would/count not take me to the level I could go to with Holosync. |
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Thanks for the input philipnet ! I heard that holothink's Deep Zen Meditation is very good. As good as Holosync but for a little less money which is a plus. I am seriously considering the holothink's "Deep Zen Meditation" because of the better price, but I still want to hear from people that have experienced holothink's "Deep Zen Meditation" before making the purchase. Thanks folks! Keep the comments coming... |
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The only problem is they don't send them to you all at once! so you have to pay shipping everytime your ready for a new level. The program is brilliant though and i've been listening to for 10 years. I've finished with the program, if anyone has any questions, they can ask me.
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I have not tried Deep Zen Mediation but here's my input: you get what you pay for. I've read Bill Harris's (I believe that is the founder of Centerpointe and Holosync) blog and the points he brings up answer a lot of my questions. There is no doubt that sound has a profound effect on the human brain. There is a question as to how to produce profound results with this notion. I think HoloSync has the answers. Of course, anytime you have a product that has many people interested, copycats are bound to spawn. Especially these days with internet marketing. I can tell you with 100% accuracy that Deep Zen Meditation's website was written by an internet marketer. What worries me is that there is no mention about the person behind the product and how they know what to develop. That whole sales page is driven by answering real people’s questions and provides no valid information on the product itself or the producer of the product. The page is designed with one purpose: to sell a product. Go ahead and read it again. How do you know that Deep Zen was made by someone who knows what they are doing and who has the wherewithal to protect your best interests? How do you know that the person behind Deep Zen has experience with the technology they are giving you? And how do you know the person behind Deep Zen isn't just trying to make money off of a hot market (that Holosync created). Listen, I've studied internet marketing and I think people have a right to make money. I've also studied the information about how sound affects the mind. The only thing I can say with certainty is that Holosync appears to be the greatest program out there (as far as quality is concerned). The founder is dedicated to helping people with one of the best ways he knows how. And I believe in his dedication to using binaural beats to do so. My belief in him and the company has lead to me purchasing my awakening prologue just yesterday as a matter of fact. And I can't wait to start. I've tried other programs (not deep zen) but none of them seem to compare to the results Holosync users experience. |
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I happen to know the guys behind Holothink. Are they marketers? Yes, one of them is a very good and fairly well known marketer. And the only reason you've heard of this product is for that exact reason! Did you know that Bill Harris and his sidekick Brad Antin have (unsuccessfully) been selling a course called "How to Think Like a Marketer"? How to Think Like a Marketer Event Photos Los Angeles 2007 There is one reason that Centerpointe charges extreme prices and one reason only . . . marketing. If Harris' occasional blog posts (highly likely written by someone else) are enough to convince you that their program is superior . . . They sell the hell out their customers. They sell the hell out of their prospects. They have joint venture partners everywhere. And they go on stage to sell their "How to Think Like a Marketer" program and brag about how much money they are able to suck out of their customers. Does the program work? Yes. All of these programs work to varying degrees. Is Holothink a copycat? Yes. They were the first. And the story behind that is they became the first after being a top promoter of the Holosync program for years. However due to Harris'/Antin's greed, arrogance and utter stupidity Holothink was born. And knowing numerous people who KNOW Bill Harris I cannot stress the words ARROGANT and GREEDY enough. Ask Rhonda Byrne about Bill Harris. As far as the cost having anything to do with producing CDs, wrong. The cost of duplicating CDs, packaging them up and shipping them is 100% covered by shipping and handling. It costs almost nothing to produce CDs. Anyway, your main point is that somehow because there is an Internet marketer involved at Holothink that their product is somehow less legit than the overdone marketing done by Centerpointe. Your assertion is ridiculous. In fact, I know people PAID by CENTERPOINTE at the National College of Naturopathic Medicine to do studies on the effectiveness their program has on reducing anxiety and the doctors who did the studies found no evidence to support Centerpointe's claims. None. I don't mean to come here and start a fight, but get your facts straight. Go ahead. Go visit Holosync® by Centerpointe : Guaranteed to produce deep, super-pleasurable meditative states, razor-sharp thinking, quantum leaps in self-awareness. and tell me there is any purpose there OTHER THAN to sell a product. Quote:
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I've been using brainsync ( Brain Sync - Your Brain Made Better ) for a while, anyone know anything about that? From my experience, it's actually been rather effective. The binaural beats do seem to be able to elevate my awareness and produce a state of mental clarity... But is this doing more harm than good? I sometimes feel as though I might cheating the system... This doubt has made me considerably cut back and I've enjoyed the more natural effects of meditation etc. Thoughts and views would be appreciated! Jack <3 |
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