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Old 06-22-2009, 12:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello

Last week I recognized that we are all enlightened.

Everything is clear to me.

There are no questions, problems or efforts anymore.


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What is the best way to monetise this?

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I am in the process of starting a blog (at first in german language).

And share my value.

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I will show my ignorance. What does the word "monetise" mean?
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This fellow is making plenty of money with a similar idea. Maybe his efforts will inspire you.
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Last week I recognized that we are all enlightened.
Everything is clear to me.
There are no questions, problems or efforts anymore.
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What is the best way to monetise this?
um, re "There are no questions, problems or efforts anymore.": in EVERYthing?

What VALUE are you providing?

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Last week I recognized that we are all enlightened.

Everything is clear to me.

There are no questions, problems or efforts anymore.


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What is the best way to monetise this?

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I am in the process of starting a blog (at first in german language).

And share my value.

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Greetings
You say we all are but you can really only speak for yourself. How do you know you are and what is it like being enlightened?
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Old 06-22-2009, 04:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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You say we all are but you can really only speak for yourself. How do you know you are and what is it like being enlightened?
Today 03:13 AM
Because there was an inner explosion of silence.

And a seperation between observer and observed exists now.

I speak for myself but I see that what is the true self.

It is like a Non-existance of Problems and Sorrow.
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There are no questions, problems or efforts anymore.

Then why do you even desire money?

Just sit down to meditate and never get up!
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What is the best way to monetise this?
Why good sir, I do believe I see a question mark!
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Because there was an inner explosion of silence.

And a seperation between observer and observed exists now.
Do you mean you can objectively observe yourself now that you are enlightened?

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I speak for myself but I see that what is the true self.

It is like a Non-existance of Problems and Sorrow.
Do you mean as the observer you detach from problems and sorrow?
I don't mean to offend you but I imagined an enlightened person to be more enlightened than you appear to be.
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Provide value.
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Why good sir, I do believe I see a question mark!
LOL - indeed, how do you account for that?
I believe Eckhart Tolle "monetizes" enlightenment, so to speak, and he certainly provided value for me with "The Power of Now". Maybe write something like that.
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LOL, classic
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Then why do you even desire money?
To survive.


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I believe Eckhart Tolle "monetizes" enlightenment, so to speak, and he certainly provided value for me with "The Power of Now". Maybe write something like that.
Yes I am starting a blog.

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Do you mean you can objectively observe yourself now that you are enlightened?
I do not know what you mean with objectively.
But I see what I see.

And I know that I do not know myself.
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HCG - Do you think you can teach people to wake up?

Are you an artist of any kind? I think many that feel enlightened end up expressing into art - music, poetry, painting.
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I asked my 7 yr old daughter recently what she imagined it would be like to not want anything.. not by getting the things she's wanted, but to not want anymore.. and she immediately said "it would be freedom" and smiled

.. and then she spent the weekend asking for packets of Gogo's Crazy Bones >.<


I'd suggest let the money pour in if/when it does.. and do what you love.

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And I know that I do not know myself.
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Does the true self experience complete freedom from human interference? If so then isn't that detachment? What I would like to know is 'how does the true self interact when engaged in human experiences? regards
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Does the true self experience complete freedom from human interference? If so then isn't that detachment? What I would like to know is 'how does the true self interact when engaged in human experiences? regards
My english is not that good because I was born in germany.

What do you mean with "human interference"? detachment?

Yes there is a distance to life. But also I am much deeper and closer to life than before.


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What are human experiences?

I am human.

My experience are human experiences?

Be more clear please.

Greetings from germany
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@HCG, what is you goal in this? To make as much money as you can in the shortest time possible? Something else?

Your original post came over to me as 'I am enlightened. Now, how do I make money with this stuff?' In other words your intention seems more focused on making money for it's own sake and that is not what I associate with enlightenment.
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My english is not that good because I was born in germany.

What do you mean with "human interference"? detachment?

Yes there is a distance to life. But also I am much deeper and closer to life than before.
I appreciate the language difficulty as well as the difficulty in explaining the unexpainable. I actually think your english is excellent but some things could be lost in translation. Thankyou for trying. Can you expand a little on the 'feeling' of deeper and closer to life?

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I am human.

My experience are human experiences?
Yes I really meant in living your life in relationship to others. Is this 'enlightenment' you feel having an effect in any way?
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Greetings from germany
Hope this is clearer.
P>S my daughter lives in Germany. I've visited a few times. I loved it. regards
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@HCG, what is you goal in this? To make as much money as you can in the shortest time possible? Something else?

Your original post came over to me as 'I am enlightened. Now, how do I make money with this stuff?' In other words your intention seems more focused on making money for it's own sake and that is not what I associate with enlightenment.
It is exciting to do! It is dangerous! Thats why I am writing a blog about it!

Creating a blog is a exciting thing to do. Money improves Quality of Life.

I may not identify with a self anymore but I would still sleep in the more comfortable bed

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Can you expand a little on the 'feeling' of deeper and closer to life?
It is not a feeling. It is total acceptance of what is in this present moment.
Feeling the keys as I type them.

Seeing the letters appear on the screen.

Feeling my breathing.

It is hopelessness. There is no more to life than what is now.

Because now is everything.

The future and past are just thoughts.

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Yes I really meant in living your life in relationship to others. Is this 'enlightenment' you feel having an effect in any way?
This happened to me last week so I am not that experienced.

Few days ago I was not invited to a big party in my house. I had zero emotional reaction .

Note when I use the word I it is just a useful word there is no Identification. Even if "I" tried

And yesterday I looked at a dog and it looked at me.
He really looked at me. And stopped walking ten times and always looked back at me.
It was so beautiful when the dog REALLY looked at me and I looked at him. I had to cry.

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It is exciting to do! It is dangerous! Thats why I am writing a blog about it!

Creating a blog is a exciting thing to do. Money improves Quality of Life.

I may not identify with a self anymore but I would still sleep in the more comfortable bed
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That may be interesting for you, but for me as a potential customer I couldn't care less.

What's in it for me?
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Thinking you are 'enlightened' only means you've reached the limit of your enlightenment...
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It is exciting to do! It is dangerous! Thats why I am writing a blog about it!

Creating a blog is a exciting thing to do. Money improves Quality of Life.
Does it? I wouldn't expect an enlightened person to to believe that money improves the quality of life.

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I may not identify with a self anymore but I would still sleep in the more comfortable bed

It is not a feeling. It is total acceptance of what is in this present moment.
Feeling the keys as I type them.

Seeing the letters appear on the screen.

Feeling my breathing.

It is hopelessness. There is no more to life than what is now.

Because now is everything.

The future and past are just thoughts.



This happened to me last week so I am not that experienced.

Few days ago I was not invited to a big party in my house. I had zero emotional reaction .

Note when "I" use the word I it is just a useful word there is no Identification. Even if "I" tried
Well who is the "I" who just uses the word?

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He really looked at me. And stopped walking ten times and always looked back at me.
It was so beautiful when the dog REALLY looked at me and I looked at him. I had to cry.
I would probably laugh at this if I had not experienced similar myself. However, it is why I haven't written about my similar experiences.
I am not the judge but I believe you are just beginning, and I think your journals over the next few months may be very interesting, if you can be candid and honest. I wish you well
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Few days ago I was not invited to a big party in my house. I had zero emotional reaction .
Uh .... This really doesn't strike me as a sign of enlightenment.

I regularly have zero emotional reaction to not being invited to parties.

Okay, that was a lie. I regularly feel pleased, when I am not invited to parties that I would rather not go to.
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It almost seems like everyone wants to test HCG.

Where is this enlightenment test that everyone is holding him against?

Once awake - does it stay that way? or does the state come and go and there are lapses into being in the identity again?

I also wonder, how does being awake end suffering? Because in one way it's said waking up just shows you that there is no you. But then the you shell kind of keeps running along and it just feels like a falsity. There's no belief that there's a individual self. But the, that shell still experiences something and... anyway, what happened to Jesus after he knew the truth? How the heck did that end suffering if he ended up on the cross?
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HCG: well, to monetise something you have to get money for value. So first you require value, then you require a way to get people to pay for it.

If you document your journey/enlightenment/progress in a blog then you will be creating lots of value, but turning that value into money is harder. One way I've seen that's pretty common and apparently effective is to create a blog for traffic, market it heaps(different from advertise), and then sell something like an e-book, or a how-to guide.

There are other ways though, teach a workshop, give speeches, coach people. It's all about creating value and selling it.

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Do enlightened people say, "I'm enlightened"?
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Yes they do, but they feel like they are lying to say anything with a personal point of view. I would imagine. They must have to come back into a limited self to say anything at all. But I don't know.
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I don't know if this will help the thread in any way, but I liked this article

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I find it ironic that so many here are more worried about whether HCG is enlightened than whether they themselves are.

I think you need to decide what audience you're aiming at. "It is hopelessness" is not likely to attract many people that are just beginning their journey, since it sounds so negative. On the other hand, it may help attract people that are further along in their journey, since it shows that you're serious about providing truth and not just empty positivity.
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