University of Metaphysical Sciences
 

Hey everyone, I'm not entirely sure where this post should go, so moderators, if it's in the wrong place, please move it. :p

I recently stumbled across the University of Metaphysical Sciences, and wanted to share it with you. I don't know much about it, I'm not a student (although I wouldn't mind giving it a go), and I'm not affiliated with them in any way.

Anyway, just thought it might be of interest. :)

I'm a student at University Of Metaphysical Sciences, and it's great! It's really affordable and I feel like I get a lot for my money. I love the meditatations that go with all the courses, they are really relaxing and a lot of concepts I'd never studied before, now I know about them. They offer a lot of different techniques to try. I have been in metaphysics for a long time and I still learned a lot of new stuff.

Well, that's my 2 cents worth! UMS is a blessing in my life. :)

New Age, Law Of Attraction, Metaphysical, Chakra, Metaphysics, Dream Interpretation has some excerpts of their courses if you want to check it out.

university of metaphysical sciences
 

Does anyone have information about this school? I'm interested in enrolling and would like to find out more. :)

I ran into this school one day browsing the net. I would love to hear from more students. I saw another school like that one, but it had even more in depth courses on the physics of the universe and mind, etc. I'm trying to find the link.

Personally, I find these things aren't taught (well) in any organized, government funded university or school... best find this information taught at the knee of a grandmother or person who has the gift of this knowledge. You may find enlightenment at the library still or the written book store (such as Borders, etc - where it can't be altered at the whim of the government...).

You don't seriously think that the University Of Metaphysical Sciences is government funded, do you?

Metaphysics (theosophy) is self-discovery and also discovery of the Nature's secrets. Some people find a college style learning better fit and others do it in a more informal way. Be assured that a piece of paper you'd receive from these good folks will not entitle you any more than any diploma mill online or off (I am pretty sure the credits are not accredited). Having said that, if you get something out of this (I mean you actually learn something) and you have money to spend, have a ball....just that most of that is available for free..... :O

Just as a point of interest, metaphysics is also a branch of the formal study of philosophy. Theosophy, as far as I'm aware (I admit, I haven't studied the history of same), is a nineteeth century movement. Metaphysical philosophy goes back to the earliest philosophers B.C.E. </nerd>

"Metaphysical Science" - oxymoron of the day! :p

I had a look at the curriculum, definitely no science. A grab bag of metaphysics though. Their accreditation is Spiritual in nature:
The website says the courses were written by a team and edited by the founder Christine Breese. If you're interested in enrolling perhaps spend a little time learning about her world view to be sure it's something you agree with :)

Also with so many different courses in the degree programs I would speculate how much depth each goes into... It looks like a big collection of workshops to me. This is purely my impression of course, a student could explain far better.

If you really want a DD. Ph.D. after your name and metaphysics is your thing then why not... Just be aware it's not a recognized qualification and calling yourself a Philosophical Doctor of Metaphysics around actual Doctors of Philosophy could lead to arguments about your understanding of "metaphysics"... ;)

Actually, no. Science does investigate metaphysical matters, if you're using the classic philosophical definition of metaphysical.

Just as one example:

Online papers on consciousness

I respectfully disagree:
The Scientific method had it's origins in Metaphysics - the classical definition I mean.

I don't think we're in disagreement, though. Maybe only over semantics.

My first point was that the term "metaphysics" has a history of philosophical use. In fact, you can still find it used in fully accredited universities around the world, in the philosophy departments (I just finished a university course with "metaphysics" in the title, in fact, and it was entirely academic in nature).

I never said that science as currently known didn't come out of philosophy, because I know that it did. (Wrote an essay about that, in fact ;))

My other point was that science (as we now know and define it) DOES investigate matters which fit the classic philosophical category "metaphysics", hence the link to the collection of scientific and academic papers relating to the topic of metaphysics-in-the-philosophical-sense.

I don't see any disagreement. Nor do I see an oxymoron.

Just to chime in...science especially quantum physics is strangely supports much of what metaphysics is all about. So called, "scientific people" who constantly attempt to debunk the metaphysical are not very good scientists, rather they are atheist, hidden in the cloth of science, pushing a certain agenda. Science needs a little humility and humbling to do......
HPB and the movement of theosophy is based on very ancient Hindu/Tibetan Buddhist ideas, and while they were very popular in the 19th century, their ideas are much older than that...

I was speaking specifically of the theosophy movement, not of the underlying concepts which it eventually took into and of itself. Obviously, many of the ideas that theosophy embraces are much older. That's true of most things, though.

Yes semantics I guess. Sounds like you're more aware of the history of philosophy than me. I thought University of Metaphysics might have meant a philosophy course, instead it's just more new age. Do you have any other Science investigating Metaphysics you could suggest?

I'm going to mirror that statement back at you:
That's pretty much how it sounds to me... No one is debunking anything here. Just talking about the word metaphysics.
Not everyone who disagrees with some new age ideas (and yes I know lots about theosophy, spiritualism, new thought and all sorts of other precursors to the new age) is an atheist. Some people just like to seek the truth, not just believe what they're told. Maybe if the people who run the University of Metaphysical Science had some credibility they would include some science in their curriculum - especially if they're trying to be professional.

Quite likely. It's my degree minor. ;)

The thing in the OP appears to be a one-woman show which offers to teach various New Age things. It's certainly not an accredited university. ;)

Other than the link I gave to the scientific papers on the topic, a few modern authors come to mind. Derek Parfit is a philosopher, but he uses a lot of scientific material in his thought experiments. I particularly liked "Reasons and Persons", which looks at the whole notion of identity and what it is and what it isn't. There's also Oliver Sacks, who is a neuologist, but has some interesting things to say about the nature of the "self" or personal identity. One of the readings from my recent coursework was from "The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat", actually. (Oliver Sacks is a controversial figure in some circles, but you can read his work and take away what you will from it, pretty much.) Also pretty much anything with V.S. Ramachandran (he's got some TED talks that are fascinating), also a neurologist is dealing with matters both scientific and metaphysical.

Oh, it's a common joke in academia that anything that has to put the word "science" on the end isn't really a science. That includes political science, social science, computer science... ;)

(Lest any computer scientists complain, I first heard that observation from a computer scientist, so take it for what you will :p)

University of Metaphysical Sciences
 

I checked out University of Metaphysical Sciences more, and the more I look at it the more impressed I am. It isn't a one woman show either, the courses are written by a LOT of people, looks like 50 people, and they have a big staff and faculty. She seems to step out of the way and let the school take on a life of its own. I do like her, Christine Breese is her name, so if you feel like you need to check her out to see if you resonate with the school, I found her videos and free world peace meditations at MetaphysicalSciences's Channel - YouTube I resonate with her. Thanks for the link above that took me to her site.

Talk about a one man show, that guy Leon Masters wrote all the courses at University of Metaphysics and they're pretty old and dry feeling. I had originally signed up with that school because it was a little cheaper, but it was a diploma mill for sure with hardly any coursework. They mailed me the entire Bachelors curriculum in only one envelope, it was pathetic. There's nothing to learn there. I demanded all my money back from University of Metaphysics (University of Sedona is the same school, I don't know why they're calling the same school two different names, it's the same curriculum, I asked) because there is no way I want to hold a degree from there, it’s a joke. University of Metaphysical Sciences is the real thing from what I can tell.

To the person who says it's just a mish mash of new age stuff, well, some of us are looking for that, and I think this school does a good job with it and puts it all in a linear format that is easy to follow, instead of patching it all together in a haphazard way with library books or different unconnected workshops. Also, I don't have a grandmother's knee to sit on to learn, so for those of us without that, we need something else.

Also, I'm not interested in some dry, antiquated academic stuff that was written by Plato or Aristotle 1000 years or so ago when metaphysics was first coined as a word. I know all about that stuff from my own college days getting a boring secular degree and wrote papers on that too. They just talk about metaphysics. With this school I get to really experience metaphysics. That's why I like the meditations they have, you get to experience the stuff they're talking about in the courses.

I'm going to sign up. I'll let you know how it goes. I've read a lot of student testimonials all over the web, so all those people can't be wrong. I like hearing directly from the students, and there’s plenty of that out there. I especially enjoyed their student community at Metaphysical Connections. I think I'm going to get a lot of healing and knowledge out of this, the curriculum is massive, and in no way an easy task. We have to write a 5,000 word thesis and a 10,000 word dissertation too, and I saw the exams that go with each course that you take online, so this is a real school with real coursework. I’ve already learned a lot just from their free courses.

They have some free courses at Metaphysics College, Metaphysics Colleges, Metaphysics, College, Colleges, Meta and the free meditation downloads are at Meditation, CDs, Audio Meditation, CD, Free, Guided Meditation, Class, Online and I LOVE them! The meditations are so beautiful and soothing. I'm already healed by some of these! They also told me they have a store where you can get some more of their courses and try it out and see if you like it at University of Metaphysical Sciences Store so I bought some of the courses (they were really inexpensive) that weren't free on their site just to try it out and make sure they were the same quality, and also so I could see what it's like to be a student. The exams are cool to see and each course has one.

I'm actually surprised they can give this much material and do as much faculty/student interaction as they do for that price. It's non-profit, so I guess that's why. I’m signing up for the $50 per month plan, that’s all I can do in my situation right now. I am also really amazed at the sweetness of the staff I talked to on the phone, three different people. I wanted to make sure it was consistent and it is. I called at different times so I could get a feel for the staff, and every single time I really liked the energy of the person on the phone.

Anyway, since no one really offered any info about this school here, I figured I'd come back and let you know. I just did a lot of research on all the metaphysical schools, and this is the one I’m picking now. There used to be more comments here about the schools and I don’t know where those went, I meant to follow the links there were from the old comments, but someone deleted them all, it seems. Not sure how that happened. Anyway, here you are, this is what I found out. I’m going to do it, feels right in my heart.

Okay. I didn't do much investigating.

That reminds me of a line from This is Spinal Tap. David St Hubbins is talking about his girlfriend, Janine, and he says, "Before I met Janine, my life was cosmically a shambles. I was just using bits and pieces of whatever eastern philosophy floated over my transom. But she came and sorted it all out for me and gave me a path to follow."


Metaphysics is still being explored in philosophy, and if it's taught correctly, it's anything but dry, but if you're not interested, I don't think anyone here would try to convince you to go get philosophy degree. :rolleyes:

Good on you. Enjoy yourself. I hope you find what you're looking for.

got my first courses from them today!
 

I got my first courses from them today. I could have downloaded them and gotten them immediately, but it's better to get them in the mail, then I can get the hard copy CDs of the meditations. Wow! They all look so beautiful! I love the cover on the binder!

This University looks great, I'll consider it seriously.

Looking at the extensive curriculum, there is a lot even for me to learn.

One question I have is how well accepted those Dr. initials would be. The world is currently shifting so spiritual studies will become more and more accepted in the future.

I'm actually a student at this university, so anyone who wants to talk to me about it, feel free to hit me up! I've been going for a year, and I absolutely love it! There are many different meditations. I think 70 meditations come with the entire degree? It's insane, but I'm close to getting my bachelors, and I'm looking forward to getting my masters and becoming an ordained minister.

I've been thinking about that since my last post in here too. My initial thought was to compare it to what a doctorate of any other subject involves. Which upon reflection isn't a good comparison.. It's like oil and water.

I personally have some objections to using the term doctor for a spiritual degree. The main reason being it's trying to gain the recognition of a doctor of medicine without the background of credible science and reasoning. Nor the same level of research and adding to human knowledge involved in PhD courses.That's my feelings though so I can set them aside and be a little bit objective ;)

I think a Doctor of Metaphysical Science will not be accepted by academia - see my personal feelings above. However, I'm sure lay people (you and I and everyone else) will accept it easily, if they have an interest in spirituality.

To gain recognition within Metaphysical circles might take a little while, after all there are differences between creeds and beliefs, subtle but they are there. This school is a pioneer of this standard, so perhaps after other schools take on the same approach people will more readily accept a spiritual doctor. For a standard to truly hold weight in the community it must actually meet a set of guidelines, usually set out by a group of "authorities" usually respected peers, within a field. At the moment with one college it's a small pond - I'm sure it'll grow ;)

Really? There has been MUCH more discoveries in spirituality and metaphysics over the last 10 years than in the medicine field! In fact, there hasn't been any major breakthrough in the pharmaceutical industry lately, because it's not profitable.

Spiritual pioneers have a much higher success rate healing cancers than doctors... but not for everybody. Doctors make it work for everybody. Spiritual healers make it work for those who are ready and willing to shift their life and open themselves.

In the same way I don't see academia diplomas as being meaningful. None of the topics that interest me are taught in schools. I have to look elsewhere.

Do you have any research or citations for this? I'd love to look at the stats. :-)

What would you base the stats on? It varies from practitioner to practitioner. Where would you draw the line between the practitioners you include or exclude in the stats and how meaningful would be those stats?

The master alchemist I've learnt from is working extensively with doctors; he would have much more statistics and specific information. However, *his* stats will probably be at least hundreds of times higher than the stats of another practitioner.

I've been thinking about it further. Who cares about a University degree? It's only use is to get a well-paid job or to give credibility to your activities.

If you have a psychology degree, I don't care about your degree. People go to a psychologist for years to deal with the symptoms. I solve their problem for life in 1 or 2 hours by going to the roots.

A degree is only meaningful towards people looking for that specific field of expertise. It shows that you have studied that field seriously and guarantees that you have at least a standard level of knowledge. It differentiates serious people from the wanna-be's.

Computer programmers won't care about a medicine degree in the same way that medicine won't care about a metaphysics degree. That's perfectly normal.

In terms of recognition between Universities, it's only useful when the same classes are given in various Universities. Since metaphysics classes are very unique, it's perfectly normal that credits are non-transferable.

Metaphysics is a very new field of knowledge, although part of the "new" is reviving ancient knowledge. Most people learn it on their own or through various workshops and seminars. There is no structure or guidance and this field is a total chaos with lots of great stuff and lots of not-so-great stuff. We're like in the times were people learnt and applied medicine on their own. Like any new field, it may take some time to establish a proper system and for it to gain credibility. In that sense, Universities like this have a very important role to play that go far beyond what seminars and workshops can offer.

You could also compare it to learning music. Some people learn music on their own and have a lot of talent. However, if they want to earn their life with it, it's important to take classes to have more structure and technique. If they want to be the best, they should seek to learn from the best teachers.

I'd like to introduce you to one of my personal heroes: Professor Ian Frazer
So far his career has involved helping discover that the AIDs virus was the cause of immunodeficiency, discovering that the Human Papiloma Virus was linked to cancer and developing the Gardasil vaccine for 4 strains of HPV for unexposed women, basically preventing cervical cancer - cervical cancer kills 250,000 women a year. Of course most of these discoveries were made before 2000. However the HPV vaccine only became available in the last 10 years.
His current work:
Your comments sound like the usually anti-Pharma sentiment. The industry does not describe the individual. Professor Frazer is definitely profiting from selling the vaccines he created. Good on him. The man is essentially waging war on cancer... and he's slowly winning :D

And how do you know this? I don't mean this as a swipe or sarcastic rejoinder, it is an important question. How do you know? It changes everything.

I witnessed and learnt how to do this kind of high-level energy work.

Instead of spending time trying to prove cancer can be cured energetically... I'd rather spend my time learning how to do it. I haven't worked on any major cancers yet but I have solved serious physical issues that persisted since birth where doctors couldn't do anything.

Medicine and spiritual work both have an important role to play. On one side, medicine works with much more consistency than energy healing and it doesn't require the patient to take responsibility for his own health. On the other side, there are various conditions where medicine simply can't help much. When possible, it's good to use both at the same time.

Energy healing is especially effective at preventing health issues and making your life even greater. Medicine is effective at solving health problems after they occur. From a spiritual perspective, you will resolve a cancer in its starting phases before it manifests physically by making a few adjustments in your life. When you have a full-blown general cancer, it's a bit late for that kind of inner-transformation... although late is better than never. Also, cancers due to external elements (food, pollution, radioactivity) are harder to work on from a spiritual perspective. All that can be done is to strengthen the defense system to attenuate the effects.

I have a question about the University of Metaphysics. Does it only cover intellectual concepts and practices like Reiki or does it get into much higher levels of energy work? Where can I see a few graduates of the University? I could read their energy field remotely to know exactly where they stand.

I agree with you, I simply have a love-affair with research. I was trained as a scientist first, then realized how slow it is compared to the spiritual routes to discovery, growth and healing and made a switch. :-)

The university mostly focuses on the intellectual side of spiritual growth and evolution. If you are looking for a super-charged course that will get you healing people, this may not be the best fit. It's more geared toward dabbling in a variety of different subjects so you can get a taste of them all and understand the basics of them all. It doesn't have high focus on any one area, in my experience.

Thus, although it looks very interesting...

It does a great job but doesn't meet all the marks in terms of recognition. It does a great job but doesn't meet all the marks in terms of depth of content.

I'll still have to look into it further.