The Michael Teachings, anyone?

[Brown Eyed Mystic]

Hello everyone.

My first post here, though, as many first-timers, I've been "lurking in the shadows" by just reading stuff posted by interesting people onboard. So well, here I am, breaking the ice and getting active

My situational question:
Some 3 years back I was religious. Thereafter, I started becoming less and less so and tilted toward, uh well, nothing specific for a few months, exploring different ideas/ways passively. I tried understanding the Pure LOA way, before delving more into Spirituality. A few days back, I read about The Michael Teachings. It felt like the teachings resonated with me more than LOA or anything similar. Still quite some confusions about the teachings, but most of it seems to gel pretty well.
I would like to know if anyone else feels the same, because LOA and the Karma do seem to be the opposing points (correct me if I am not enligntened in the context) It feels that even though I would love to embrace pure LOA way of life I am not able to completely dismiss the science of Karma, and the possibility of various "Roles", "attitude", "task companions" etc. chosen by us, as told by the entity. If I believe in the LOA and manifestation, won't it refute all of the above? Ah its a mesh of sorts.

Any insights on the same will be helpful. Thanks so much for hearing out.

[Ariel Bravy]

In what way would the idea of karma and the LoA refute each other?

In my mind, they're pointing to two similar ideas.

Recognizing that time is an illusion, karma is not really results of stuff you did in the past. Not really. "The past" is when you created those energies, but because you continue to embrace those energies within your presence NOW, you experience the karmic effects of that energy NOW.

So karma is saying, "That which is contained within your energetic presence now is what you will experience."

The LoA is saying that the energy within your presence in the form of thoughts and emotions determines what manifestations will arise within your consciousness.

Pretty much the same idea, no?

[Brown Eyed Mystic]

Thanks for commenting, Ariel Bravy.

Well, I think Karma is the law of moral causation. Questions like:

what is the cause of the inequality that exists among mankind?
why should one person be a mental genius, and another foolish?
why should some be linguistic, artistic, mathematically inclined, or musical from the very tender ages?
why should some be "blessed", and others "cursed" from their births? ( by this I mean cogenitally blind, deaf, deformed in any way)

Either this all is purely accidental or it has a cause. It having a cause defines the whole cycle of Karma. Some of it could be heridetary, environmental, or so but eventually it also comprises Karma. I am sure we both agree till this point. In other words, it is the result of our own past actions and our own present doings. We ourselves are responsible for our own happiness and misery. We create our own Heaven. We create our own Hell. We are the architects of our own fate. In this way, karma is indeed similar to LOA. But, I wonder what happens to the Karma earned in the previous lifetime which is gonna be spent in this lifetime? How will then, the current goals carried out via LOA come through when it clashes with Karmic debt. We can attract all the great/good things via LOA (materialistic and otherwise). That may encounter for Karma in this lifetime, sure. Coz in the end they are deeds, done by us using LOA or not. But what about the past lifetimes? Rather what about the past years of this lifetime? Is it like saying that just because I bumped into LOA a couple yrs ago, I gained unwanted KArma unknowingly all the while before that....? That way the cycle will always repeat unless I know to use LOA to earn "good" karma in every coming lifetime. Spooky!

[themaster]

I like Michael teaching.. but they don't highly resonate with me as much as other teacher(s)..

It's my understanding karma is a opt-in or opt-out system.. that is your choice.. if you want karma in your life, fine have at it.. if you don't, don't..

What your describing above sounds more like what one of my other teachers call.. theme/soul blueprint.. I think your confusing the idea that karma is involved in this as I'm aware it is not.. only if you opt-in

[Brown Eyed Mystic]

Interesting, themaster.

I specifically got interested in the term "theme/soul blueprint".

However, I couldn't quite digest the idea of opt-in or not system. Coz I always thought Karma or the deeds get recorded for my various lifetimes. Thiking of it as a choice is really intriguing, nevertheless.

[Dreamline]

I think your view of karmic debt may be skewed by assuming that the current being you are, is to absorb it all. In this incarnation.

Since our souls are inifinite, karma must be as well. Meaning that even if you have an imbalance of karma, good or bad, you have an infinite lifetime to balance and re-balance the equation.

LOA teaches us that to manifest the best in our lives, we must assume a mindset of happiness, joy, giving, gratitude, forgiveness and all of those acoutrement contribute to karma that would be generally known as good. So learning about LOA is beneficial to your infinite karmic debt balance. In this respect, LOA and karma are two employees in the same office. Working together.

I tend to view karma as a giant see-saw in a kid's playground. You start out in the middle and your actions determine whether you are on the upside or the downside at any given time in your soul's life. So karma isn't the cause, just the scale. A measuring stick, so to speak.

LOA is an energy force that simply responds, in kind, to the vibration we put out. Like a mirror to show us, concretely, what we have been dwelling on with the purpose, presumably, of helping us see where we need correction. If we are smart enough to believe in it's existance. Just another tool.

In these ways, they are both very similar and may very well be connected. Or even the same thing.

Jennifer

[Brown Eyed Mystic]

I tend to view karma as a giant see-saw in a kid's playground. You start out in the middle and your actions determine whether you are on the upside or the downside at any given time in your soul's life. So karma isn't the cause, just the scale. A measuring stick, so to speak.

Yup, that sure resonates with me