Happiness

[young]

What is happiness?

Can anyone look at the feeling when it happens? Go on, step back and observe happiness. What you'll find is acceptance of this moment. Total surrender!

Now what is suffering? Suffering is simply the resistance of this moment. Pretty much opposite of happiness, huh! People think happiness is of the mind, however the deeper you look at it, you'll see that it is not a mental state. It is your natural state!

What does this all mean? If happiness is my natural state, then why aren't I always happy? It is because you do not see the matter behind all thoughts, which cover up who you truly are, like clouds blocking the sun (The sun being you).

Aren't all thoughts associated with desire & fear?

Fear itself is a feeling of possible unfulfillment of desire. So thoughts are basically about desire. Look at it and tell me if I'm wrong.

What is desire? It is a wanting, a seeking because this moment is unacceptable. You desire to be a millionaire, you desire for a loving partner. There are all sorts of desires one could have. But all desires are in search of one thing. Look at it and you'll see it is to be happy or, in other words, whenever you are seeking you are simply in search of your true self.

Have you ever observed that for a brief moment when you are happy, that all desires don't matter? They are unreal. However, desires become real when you are unhappy. What made you unhappy? The desires themselves!

Know this by seeing:

All desires are a search for your Self, the awareness behind conciousness known as mind that contains everything. It is self seeking self through people & things. When you realize this, nothing will matter anymore and you will be liberated. You will see thoughts for what they are.

If you need clarification, please feel free to ask.

[young]

I'm sure someone can find this useful

[timothydrake]

I believe I am past the revelation of happiness. I agree that having that revelation is an enlightening experience. The problem with enlightenment is accepting it. If you accept it all then you may become an extremist and become socially shunned depending on what it is. There are many levels of accepting. The knowledge gained though stays with you forever and that is what counts.

[young]

Timothydrake,

Enlightenment is all about forgetting about the 'me'. Acceptance comes naturally once you see all the illusions. You are not trying to accept enlightenment because you already are. Nobody becomes an extremist or socially shunned. These are all mind-made opinions of an unawakened.

You believe you are the past because you still believe you are a body. The body constantly changes and so do your thoughts about yourself.

There is no such thing as an enlightening experience. Only once you are dragged back to identifying with ego will you say 'I had an enlightening experience'. When you are enlightened, there isn't an experiencer. There is only experience!

[MartinP]

Thats a great post.

I'm still learning about this stuff. Saw a blog post related to this, but quite simple on:

Kaizan Blog

I agree that the happiness we all seek is within us. its obscured by our vasanas.

Martin

[sk8joyful]

Originally Posted by young

What is happiness?

depends on the individuals' perception, & the context.

any militants, like christians, or muslims will define happiness differently, than I would for example.

Originally Posted by young

Can anyone look at the feeling when it happens? Go on,
step back and observe happiness. What you'll find is acceptance of this moment. Total surrender!

interesting.

would that be a 'VK'-synesthesia?, and why surrender?,
when
you can just as easily accept & embrace & live & be kinda like an embodiment of happiness...

Originally Posted by young

What does this all mean? If happiness is my natural state, then why aren't I always happy?

It is because you do not see the matter behind all thoughts,
which cover up who you truly are, like clouds blocking the sun (The sun being you).

our solar sun is literally you, you thought?
sure, both creations are essentially 'force-fields'; but you have *choice*; the sun doesn't. Are they what you meant by "matter"?

People aren't happy for various reasons.

Originally Posted by young

Aren't all thoughts associated with desire & fear?

so when you aren't happy, you are afraid? - have you resolved that yet?

Originally Posted by young

What is desire? It is a wanting, a seeking to be happy or,
in other words, whenever you are seeking you are simply in search of your true self.

How do you know when you, yourself, have found "your true self"?

Originally Posted by young

Have you ever observed that for a brief moment when you are happy, that all desires don't matter? They are unreal. However, desires become real when you are unhappy. What made you unhappy? The desires themselves!

hm, only for a brief moment? - when God/Jesus is happiness, and He desires our happiness all the time, so
apparently this abundance, joy & pleasure does matter very much: "a pearl of Great price" worth having, eh

Originally Posted by young

Know this by seeing:
All desires are a search for your Self, the awareness behind conciousness known as mind that contains everything. It is self seeking self through people & things. When you realize this, nothing will matter anymore and you will be liberated. You will see thoughts for what they are.
If you need clarification, please feel free to ask.

and what are the thoughts? - might some of them matter?, and how? and in what contexts? - and which "mind" contains everything? - & what do you mean by everything?. and what are the other mind's limitations & also possibilities? - and is the mind, the totality of the self, or do other functions come into play? - just a few questions, you might wanna consider & further explore...
because -
when I homeschooled daughter, plus many of her friends, one of many things I re-assured them of, was
"Awareness is kewl, some knowledge as well; yet really important is continually asking increasingly observant questions... Enjoy!

[young]

Originally Posted by sk8joyful

depends on the individuals' perception, & the context.

any militants, like christians, or muslims will define happiness differently, than I would for example.

Us humans, we all strive for the same. I know that for sure.

interesting.

would that be a 'VK'-synesthesia?, and why surrender?,
when
you can just as easily accept & embrace & live & be kinda like an embodiment of happiness...

Surrender comes naturally once you understand.

our solar sun is literally you, you thought?
sure, both creations are essentially 'force-fields'; but you have *choice*; the sun doesn't. Are they what you meant by "matter"?

People aren't happy for various reasons.

You ThINK you have *choice*, however, you never do.

I didn't 'matter' as defined through physicality. I meant the issue behind all thoughts.

People aren't happy for various reasons. Correct! But happiness does not come from a reason.

so when you aren't happy, you are afraid? - have you resolved that yet?

What else can it be? If you desire to do something, why aren't you doing it?

How do you know when you, yourself, have found "your true self"?

When you realize there is no 'you' to find it.

hm, only for a brief moment? - when God/Jesus is happiness, and He desires our happiness all the time, so
apparently this abundance, joy & pleasure does matter very much: "a pearl of Great price" worth having, eh

[LOANow]

I agree wholeheartedly with the root post here. There are few posts that I completely find to be in harmony with my own experience and path, but this one is. And no I don't find anything about it out of harmony with my Christianity. I think this is all in harmony with Jesus' teachings and the life he espoused and demonstrated...

Just MHO...

Jim