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Old 01-17-2007, 11:37 PM
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Well after seeing this concept on a DVD it really amazed me and I would like to share it with everyone here. Because in the last little while I have been noticing more and more posts on "ascension" and "enlightenment" and the evolution of our consciousness and how our consciousness is growing so quickly now. Well there is a reason for it! It is not your imagination!

This is some amazing information that has been put together here. This year is a VERY IMPORTANT YEAR, things are going to change drastically and I want you all to be prepared for it.

Here is the definition from google video " This 3 hour DVD is a presentation based on Dr. Calleman's break through discoveries of the structure of the Mayan Calendar as it relates to the Evolution of Consciousness. "Ian takes a complex subject such as the Mayan Calendar and makes it very easy to understand on a personal level." He also clearly points out how the Schedule of Creation can be tracked when one looks at past historical events and relates that information to what to expect in the near future leading up to 2012. This 3 hour DVD also includes questions from the audience and is the fastest way to get up to speed on the topic of the Mayan Calendar. (2parts) "

Here are the links to the video (2 parts), it might seem like its starting slow but the foundation first must be built and then it picks up speed real fast.

The Mayan Calendar Comes North 01 - Ian Xel Lungold - Google Video
The Mayan Calendar Comes North 02 - Ian Xel Lungold - Google Video

[To understand what I am talking about from here on you will have needed to watch the videos]

What you need to realize is that this is the MASS conciousness here - yes - at times there have been people who have been in the higher stages - but that is on an individual level (IE. Buddha).

If you have noticed - ethics are all around us - like one woman points out in the presentation "In mlm companies now aday's, if the company is exposed as not being 100% ethical - people leave en masse. There are many examples in all industries, we are becoming very ethical, very fast!

He doesn't do it so much in this DVD as the one that I first saw but he explains how this process is going on in the entire 3D Universe that we live in. For example I have watched documentaries on PLASMA and how scientists are realizing that gravity does not run the show - but in fact electricity and plasma particles do. Like why are sun spots - the part that exposes closer to the surface of the sun - COLDER than the red hot parts miles above the surface? Well they are realizing that the sun may not be a nuclear reactor - that instead - it is recieving energies from other parts of the universe and then converting and transmitting it throughout the solar system. Thus - the universe is like a living organism and is growing as one. Another thing that I have learned is that scientists have found large emissions of particles on their way to our sun from other galaxies that should reach our solar system by the year 2011 and they expect major solar radiation to bombard the earth. Which is kind of evidence to me that the universe is in fact one giant 'growing organism' and that this cycle explained in the DVD is even more 'real'.

I can't wait to meet the neighbours!

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Watching now, thanks, will report back.
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Yes indeed. This is the Age of Consciousness and the Future is Unfolding now.

The work of consciousness is one of the main fields that will sweep the world by storm. I'm so glad to be one of those involved in it before the time comes where everyone else starts to jump into it.

Visionaries always set themselves in things way before the masses do.

We will all know that this is a mental universe that we live in. The science of consciousness will cause breakthroughs that will far exceed any other scientific discoveries that mankind has ever made.
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Very interesting and well thought out presentation I must say. Everything he said maid sense to me until he got to the end and started talking about the future... Now that he is dead and it is 3 years since this little talk...I do not see the things happening that he said would have already happened by this time.
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Very interesting and well thought out presentation I must say. Everything he said maid sense to me until he got to the end and started talking about the future... Now that he is dead and it is 3 years since this little talk...I do not see the things happening that he said would have already happened by this time.

I had though about that too. You have to realize that in predicting the future using a schedule like this that the things you say might not always be 100% correct but may be very similar. In the one that I have on DVD (can't find it on google video) he goes into more detail on what each of the 7 days and 6 nights mean and what they will be like in the future. Also - you have to realize that he is mixing his own opinion with what the Mayan's said 5000 years ago. So of course his 'own opinion' might not be correct but the fact that the Mayan's stated this 5000 years ago shows you something. For the evidence is all around us.

For example - in the early stages the truth about major corporations and government power-trip corruption are exposed. I am sure that that is pretty obvious to most, for example: Enron, 9/11, GM food, there are thousands of documentaries available out there now exposing the lies all around us and more and more people are beginning to view them.

You also have the War, at first USA had the support of all of its people, now most are asking "what are we doing over there?". Also the USA no longer has the support of any other countries or even the UN for that matter. This is showing that the world is no longer running on a power-ego trip trying to gain more power - now it is only George Bush and whoever is behind him. You also have to recognize that China is about to surpass the USA in economic progress. And the USA is outsourcing too much - there is too much disparity between the income of a family in USA and a family in India for example. It cannot last forever. You have to also recognize that the corruption of the Legal system and the Tax system of the USA are being exposed (Look up Marvin Bryer). That the IRS is operating as one big scam - the money that you pay today gets used to pay off the national debt TODAY. It is not saved. So what that means is when the baby boomer generation has passed - those of us left will have an estimated excess of 10 trillion dollars in debt to pay off. Chemtrails, HAARP, etc etc etc.

[Visit Mind Deprogramming :: Time to purify your brain from the Illuminati Mind Control and scroll down to the video player - there are approximately 300 or more video's to choose from that contain the REAL news about what is going on in our world]

In this period, 2007-2008, is when major things are supposed to happen. We may already be getting an 'alpha reflection' of that - the citrus food being wiped out in California for example. Oil price continuing to fall - which many experts say will result in a stock market crash (among other things - think of all the people that are working in the oil industry). All of the people out there experimenting with 'free' energy in their backyard! The government's do obviously have free energy technology but they realize they can build vast wealth by sucking the earth dry first. This is being exposed at a rapid rate also.

Edit: One thing I forgot to add that is quite interesting, in 2008 the HAARP tower in Alaska is supposed to be complete - what this thing does is blows a hole in the Ionosphere of the earth (yes the one that protects us from the Electromagnetic energy of the sun) for military testing purposes, that could very well prove disastrous to life on earth. Funny how that fits into the mayan schedule ain't it?

The evidence that 'ethics' are becoming more and more important is also very obvious. And I mean come on, the Mayan's knew this would be the case 5000 years ago. Even if they are a year or two off - they are still doing pretty damn good with their 'prophecies'.

We will know by the end of this year whether we are operating on this schedule or not FOR SURE.

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You just touched on everything I had a problem with in the video. I do not see the economy falling yet, I see it falling but his time is off because according to him it should have already fell and this free renewable energy in back yards is supposed to be available to all. I would like more info on this renewable energy if you have it, we aren't talking biodiesel either are we?

So now I see the picture taking shape(I always have). I just think the American Government is going to do all it can to put off the inevitable as long as possible and I wonder how they will do that. I am just unsure that he has his times right but I do see things escalating rapidly everyday. Also he mentioned time travel and a technology that would be able to duplicate and teleport objects...your thoughts?

I live in cali and alot of orange and avacado trees(mostly the young or recently planted) were hit hard in my area. There are still plenty that look ok to me so I don't know how much of a difference that this will make in the economy. I am ready for the change, all my life I have hated money and the curruption of all that is pure on this earth. Sure fun has been had but wow it can't last forever not like this. The change will be for the better I know that much, it will not be smooth though. I wonder about what will happened after 2011 because there isn't another level to the pyramid...does the tower crumble and creation starts back over at the cellular level? Not looking forward to that if so.
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I will try to answer all that I am able to. First I should say again that we cannot take every little thing he says as fact, when you are giving a relative timeline of events of the future like this you have to realize that some things may be a little off. But I guess due to how much time he spent studying this stuff he was convinced.

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You just touched on everything I had a problem with in the video. I do not see the economy falling yet, I see it falling but his time is off because according to him it should have already fell and this free renewable energy in back yards is supposed to be available to all. I would like more info on this renewable energy if you have it, we aren't talking biodiesel either are we?
Free energy resources:

What you have to realize is that these inventions are tapping "ZPE - Zero Point Energy - this is the cosmic energy that exists all around us in every particle. Therefore contemporary scientists will say that 'that doesn't fit with the 1st law of thermodynamics!'. Another reason why this kind of stuff is 'debunked' is because it is a major industry that generates huge profits for governments and major corporations.

Therefore you have to realize that as long as the world stays the way it is - this kind of thing will never be found on consumer markets, many people have been murdered who have tried to release this kind of thing publicly. It will take a major change in our economy and those who are in control will have to be replaced in order for such a thing to exist widely.

tesla free energy race to zero point energy documentary science - Google Video

Main Page - BNE - []Baron New Energy introduction video (Joe Cell) - Google Video

The following is a more advanced version of the previous invention:

Water Car Inventor Murdered - Google Video
"Stanley Meyer's design was at the production stage when he was murdered in March of 1998 while eating at a restaurant in Ohio where he was celebrating the opening of his new research and production facility (he was poisoned). He had planned on selling kits that could be retrofitted to existing cars (of the 1998 era) for about $1,000 per kit. Stanley accomplished far more than merely breaking water down into hydrogen and oxygen. He stressed the water molecule to such a degree that he opened an energy aperture in the ether which allowed free energy to pour into his system. He had much more energy than he knew what to with. He had to design a governor system so he could throttle back the energy coming in from the water to match the burn rate of gasoline, otherwise the car would have taken off like a rocket.

Besides running a car, he could get unlimited electricity from his stressed water molecule as well. He said in his lecture that a gallon of water holds enough energy potential to power the entire city of New York for a month!"
(this man was poisoned due to not 'scrapping' his project for the good of the greedy oil empire)

Free Energy, another Inconvenient Truth - Google Video

Our Technology | Steorn
Steorn launch revolutionary free energy - Google Video

There is much more - just search for "Free Energy" and "Zero Point Energy"


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So now I see the picture taking shape(I always have). I just think the American Government is going to do all it can to put off the inevitable as long as possible and I wonder how they will do that. I am just unsure that he has his times right but I do see things escalating rapidly everyday. Also he mentioned time travel and a technology that would be able to duplicate and teleport objects...your thoughts?
The Disclosure Project (Full Interviews) - part 1 - Google Video

The US government and whoever is behind them ARE doing whatever they can to put this off - that is a fact. Search for google videos on "Mind control" - there are reported devices that put out signals that interfere with our brainwave frequencies, (look up HAARP) and much much more, I strongly suggest you visit Mind Deprogramming :: Time to purify your brain from the Illuminati Mind Control and start watching videos on there.

As far as time travel and technology that duplicate/teleport objects. I have not done too much research on time travel but I do see how it is possible.. I won't get into it here though.

For teleportation and duplication of objects - it is already happening - there are many scientists out there studying this. It all involves 'quantum mechanics'. It basically involves a device that copies the molecular composition of the object and transmits that data to another device that then reconstructs the object on a molecular level, you have then "copied" or "duplicated" that object, you simply repeat and you can mass produce anything you want. See this report on duplication of laser beams (photons) [this is the step after copying mere particles] Quantum teleporter creates laser beam clones - quantum-world - 21 February 2006 - New Scientist

This is just one of the things that quantum mechanics promises. Do a little research and you will be surprised.


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I live in cali and alot of orange and avacado trees(mostly the young or recently planted) were hit hard in my area. There are still plenty that look ok to me so I don't know how much of a difference that this will make in the economy. I am ready for the change, all my life I have hated money and the curruption of all that is pure on this earth. Sure fun has been had but wow it can't last forever not like this. The change will be for the better I know that much, it will not be smooth though. I wonder about what will happened after 2011 because there isn't another level to the pyramid...does the tower crumble and creation starts back over at the cellular level? Not looking forward to that if so.
No the tower does not crumble - the reason the pyramid ends (as Ian also moreso explains in the other video I have - I wish I knew how to put it from DVD onto google video - maybe I'll look into it).... Is because we will have reached the end of conscious evolution. Remember at the beginning of the video how he explains that this is not a calender for physical time - it is a calendar for conscious evolution. Time calendars will still exist, but time merely measures physical motion.

I hope that answers your questions.
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He introduces his tool for translating Gregorian time into Mayan time in the first part. Is that tool available somewhere?
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He introduces his tool for translating Gregorian time into Mayan time in the first part. Is that tool available somewhere?
It can be found on their website.

Mayan Calendar, mayan calendars

I forgot about their article section, there are several hundred articles, you can probably find answers to other questions there regarding the work..

Welcome to Mayan Majix - Mayan Calendar Products, Mayan Astrology, Mayan Jewelry, Mayan Books, Mayan Links, Ancient Mayan Sites, Daily Tzolkin, Mayan Learning Lab, Articles, 2012, Ian Lungold
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Dudes, check out this link to The Mayan Calendar portal. It shows you what all the symbols and things on the calendar mean and you can also calculate any Gregorian date into Mayan dates. Pretty cool and it's free!

P.S. a lot of this information is fascinating, but it's hard to determine what is real and what is not. The problem I have with Lungold is that he takes these facts, which aren’t always that factual and mixes them with his opinion. Especially when he starts to talk about aliens, in at least my opinion, he loses ALL credibility. That’s a shame, because he does tell a great story about the Mayan Calendar. Having said that, it won’t stop me from looking into this a little further.

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You don't believe in aliens? Perhaps there still a lot you have to discover in order to know that such entities exist, how they operate and what are their intentions. You can find such information at:

==>Transcending the Matrix Control System
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First of all I have to admit I only browsed through the website and stopped reading after a few phrases. I simply don’t buy it and don’t feel the need to believe in anything like that. Nevertheless anything is possible so I won’t deny the possibility. Perhaps I’m not high enough up the ladder of evolution to grasp it or maybe I’m just plain sceptical.
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First of all I have to admit I only browsed through the website and stopped reading after a few phrases. I simply don’t buy it and don’t feel the need to believe in anything like that. Nevertheless anything is possible so I won’t deny the possibility. Perhaps I’m not high enough up the ladder of evolution to grasp it or maybe I’m just plain sceptical.
I found the website to be really cool! I used to find references to alien beings, hyperdimensional entities, organic portals, robotic agents etc. etc. etc. to be naive, misguided and often repulsive and until now I would have agreed with Toine. This time though, when reading I could sense some deep truths so I persisted and eventually I got my conscious mind to wrap itself around the mindset put forth by the website, and I must admit, it's kind of fun!

I think it's spirituality as seen in the eyes of the New Generation; the generation that grew up playing computer games. Whether it's right or wrong, these people view the world and their life as a computer game and 'winning the game' is just another way of saying 'becoming enlightened'.

If you would take the time to translate these texts to the vocabulary people in the 'spiritual' world use; a lot of it suddenly sounds wise and resonates with deep truths. I must say that incorporating this perspective into my life's view is actually kind of fun and I suggest anyone who understands what it is like to play a computer game to try and wrap their mind around this perspective!
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I found it facinating when Ian talks about the mind as a tool, that we are not our mind. I am also reading a book The Power of Now by Ekhart Tolle which explores similar ideas. I am also facinated of how incredibly accurate the maya calandar has been (correlating it to scientific discoveries).... remember Ian was extremely passionate about sharing this knowledge to the rest of the world. He was also very careful to point out fact from thought or conjecturing.

His view on the future was his interpretation or conjecture (as he stated) He also stated the cascade of events... first consciousness, then light, thought and event. Perhaps the things he may have been conveying have not yet precipitated into events..?? just a thought. Or perhaps hindsight will make things more apparent to us in the not so distant future.

I understand this knowledge is somewhat radical and can be uneasy to digest as it seem so unbelievable. I am trying not to let my mind or ego get in the way. To me this knowledge feels like i've come home.

Thanks Trop for posting this very interesting and dare i say enlightening topic. It's sent me on a wild search for more information.... hope i don't loose my job over this
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You know, I used to believe in all those things about 2012 and aliens and spiritual warfare and such, but now I'm rethinking... many of these teachings are based on channeled sources (Astral/celestial realms) which are then filtered through the channeler's egos. Others are just normal researchers digging for information and piecing facts together and inserting their opinions to make a coherent story. While definitely very true-sounding and exciting, the fact remains that none of the sources are truly enlightened and speak from a fully enlightened point of view, i.e. they may have had satoris or taken ayahuasca and gotten glimpses of the ultimate reality, but it is not complete.

I firmly stand by David Hawkin's calibrations (since he's enlightened and has done millions of calibrations), and in Truth vs. Falsehood he lays a lot of "new age astral circus" myths to rest. I don't have the book with me, but I remember some of the calibrations:

New Age: 180ish
conspiracy theories: 180
mayan calendar theories: false
ETs: false
UFOs: false

One thing is that it is unclear what was held in mind during the calibration, so further research can be done. However, in general, this pretty much dispels most of the pop spirituality stuff out there.

There were a lot of other important calibrations but I forgot, they're in the "Spiritual" section if someone has the book and can post some of them up.
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I understand from a mystic friend of mine that there is one person in particular that has incarnated onto Earth in order to bring about changes to the collective consciousness and collective unconscious.
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I understand from a mystic friend of mine that there is one person in particular that has incarnated onto Earth in order to bring about changes to the collective consciousness and collective unconscious.
This person Meet the Minister Who Says He Is Jesus Christ - Newsweek Beliefs - MSNBC.com claims to be just that incarnation!

Do you believe him?
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I have a question about the calendar, in the sense that once we evolve as much as we can consciously, then what? The Mayan calendar comes to an end, the end of conscious evolution, so what is the point after that if there is nowhere else to evolve to? I'm sure life will be great and full of joy or whatever, but there will be no higher place to come to, I guess the world will be heaven and hell a fable??
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Evolution of consciousness will keep going on.

It will be the end of this phase of conscious evolution on planet Earth.

But there will be a New Earth for progress to continue on.

It is a portion of collective consciousness that will transcend the current Earth vibratory status into a higher one.
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This person Meet the Minister Who Says He Is Jesus Christ - Newsweek Beliefs - MSNBC.com claims to be just that incarnation!

Do you believe him?
No, that guy sounds like a charlatan, what with changing his message every few years. No, my friend won't reveal any characteristics about this person. The only thing he will say is that all the natural disasters that have been occurring the past few years are a result of this person's incarnation on Earth.
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