Mental illness.

[marty]

I've done a lot of past life releases and from the crap I've seen coming from myself through these releases I think there is a fair chance that past life misdeeds could contribute or cause many mental illnesses that are prevelant in society today.The treatments are woefully inadequate, doping patients up with no acknowledgement of the other aspects of a persons being. I shouldn't be so honest but I think there is a fair chance that I avoided such a fate as I was put in touch with a healer that does such releases.I only ever suffered with anxiety and depression but my brothers have both had delusions/voices etc.. I spent 2 1/2 years doing them and feel so much better because of that but they were INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT. Of my 2 brothers that have mental illness one is on meds, the other hasn't acknowledged there is anything wrong.The one on meds spent time in a psychiatric ward so is pretty bad but is living a fairly normal life now whilst on meds.Neither have any interest in pursuing or acknowledging the path I have pursued.
I have seen people with alzheimers return to themselves when they crossed over and communicated back via The John Edwards show. Does any one have any idea do people with delusions etc.. return to normal when they cross over or do they even manage to cross over?
And how do you manage to live your life when people 'like this' become dependant on you yet won't fight,pursue their own healing/wellness?

[Parthon]

I doubt a past life could be strong enough to cause actual mental illness, but if they start life at a low vibration, caused by their past lives, they could develop when they grow. Many mental illnesses are just a rather solid sympton of a low consciousness level.

If they don't cross over, then it will be some heavy regret that holds them back, something they feel they've forgotten or neglected. Most people however do cross over, and when on the other side are reunited with their higher self and get a full run down on everything. They'll be free of the constraints from their life, but they might not have learnt what they incarnated for. When they reincarnate they may end up at the same level they were before, but their lives will be completely different.

As for dealing with the physical impact of how they live, that's up to you. You could cut them off, giving them back control and responsibility of their lives, but also weather any guilt you might feel. Or you could help them in the best way you can, support them in whatever they do. Remember: you can never change someone else's mind, all you can do is show them wisdom and hope they take it for themselves. Very few people do though, it's not our nature to.

If you want to "reduce the impact" they have on you though, set boundaries and limits, and only give what you can. Don't weaken yourself to provide for others if it doesn't help the world. If all they are doing is pulling you down, you won't server the world any better by letting them.

[tintin]

why not parthon?any illness begins in wrong thought,right? and then progressively gets grosser and grosser till it manifests in the physical body.if there is a particular life lesson that i havent gotten around to overcome,over succeeding lives will it not become chronic?and hence show up as an illness.

an illness ,especially the ones that show up in childhood or suddenly are usually pastlife traumas stored in cells.

[tintin]

situations which seem hopeless .i wonder about them,are they like karmic debts or what?i mean theres no escaping them except actually escaping.

i mean like how do you tell a mentally ill person to get a grip and to get a life!?

i understand that we all make the choice deep down to be ill and if we decide to heal..well we get on the road to recovery dang quick.

ahh ! oki the only way to help others /awaken others is to help yourself and awaken yourself first.

sometimes i ask the dumbest questions :P

[Parthon]

Oh, I just mean that most of those kinds of illnesses manifest as a result of having a low vibrational consciousness versus a direct causal link between your past life and your new body.

This also points to your overstate of being influencing your body and cells themselves, but rather than a link between a specific past life, or specific karmic debt, it's more like your overall state of consciousness.

As an aside though: People who are incarnating coule be choosing to incarnate a problematic body in order to learn. Perhaps they want the challenge of rising from an extremely low level vibration, but they don't manage to. Next time when they incarnate they'll try an easier challenge.

Or perhaps they knew the path, and wanted to experience a low vibration state in order to know more about the world, and to avoid it in the future.

Or they could be creating a huge karmic swing to balance out what they will do in the next life.

I am open to past lives and karmic debts impacting you in the current life, in regards to mental and physical illness. From what I've learnt though, it's unlikely. The incarnating soul would be more likely to choose it or manifest it directly as a response to it though. Ie: there's still a link, but the incarnating soul becomes the intermediary.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by tintin

i mean like how do you tell a mentally ill person to get a grip and to get a life!?

i understand that we all make the choice deep down to be ill and if we decide to heal..well we get on the road to recovery dang quick.

Why do you feel you have to tell them anything?

Why are you invalidating their choice?

You can say.. you can return to normal if you want.. look at me.. I'm somewhat normal

It's my understanding and I'm paraphrasing.. (typical) that sometimes people who experience what we like to label "crazy" are actually just not really here.. they are off in other dimensions maybe parts of non-physical.. just as when old people start to do blank stares.. they too are not here.. they are leaving this plane.. some are re-living the past and examining there lives..

Also as I do anytime I see a karma post.. is point out that karma is a optional thing.. no one is forced to use or obey karma..

[luckyluciano]

Isn't it just man's Ego/fear clinging to the perception that he had SEPARATE past lives & SEPARATE karma & is a SEPARATE soul from infinite source? We are one, with source!

[tintin]

Originally Posted by themaster

Why do you feel you have to tell them anything?

Why are you invalidating their choice?

You can say.. you can return to normal if you want.. look at me.. I'm somewhat normal

It's my understanding and I'm paraphrasing.. (typical) that sometimes people who experience what we like to label "crazy" are actually just not really here.. they are off in other dimensions maybe parts of non-physical.. just as when old people start to do blank stares.. they too are not here.. they are leaving this plane.. some are re-living the past and examining there lives..

Also as I do anytime I see a karma post.. is point out that karma is a optional thing.. no one is forced to use or obey karma..

agree.
yes thats why i wrote.....

ahh ! oki the only way to help others /awaken others is to help yourself and awaken yourself first.

sometimes i ask the dumbest questions :P

[buddhaneo]

As Bruce Nolan says in 'Bruce Almighty', "Be the Miracle!" Then they will be sure to follow you... eventually.

There are very few people, meaning less than a dozen, who are no are not deluded so don't try to kid yourself you are not one of them. Unless of course you are Enlightened.