Does Awareness think?

[Jack]

Does Awareness think?If Awareness is dreaming the world,then shouldn't be Awareness also thinking the world?I heard that when awareness takes thought forms,it becomes a world.If there is only Awareness and there is nothing other than Awareness,doesn't it mean that Awareness also produce thought forms?Awareness creates thought forms from Awareness,isn't this true?

[Antarananda]

I highly recommend that you read I Am That by Nisargadatta Maharaj. Talks with a genuine illumined Master which will clear all doubts like the sun dispels darkness.

[Bradshaw]

Just for fun, i'll give this a shot. Don't take it too seriously now.

So. Awareness = Everything, correct?

And everything is made of thought. Thus, awareness is also made of thought.

Thus, thought is the form awareness takes. Now, does that mean awareness thinks?

I don't want to just outright say "No", but awareness doesn't really think. It just knows. It simply knows. Pure knowing. It manifests reality by infusing reality with knowing.

Thus your question is sort of a matter of semantics isn't it? Do you consider pure, raw knowing to also be thinking?

[Antarananda]

Originally Posted by Bradshaw

And everything is made of thought. Thus, awareness is also made of thought.

This is a fundamental error. It's almost like the classical Descartian statement, "I think therefore I am". But when the mind rests and dissolves in silence, and pure awareness remains, we recognize that I still exist (I AM) without dependence on thinking or active functioning of the mind. It very simply proves that awareness exists beyond the mind.

[Bradshaw]

Ah, i see.

I am simply not ready for these kinds of discussions, but thank you for the clarification.

[Foresta Gump]

The memory is an amazing thing, I remember and I know this may sound doubtful to many, but it is my truth and my memory the day I remember I was an awareness, I was inside my mama's womb heading towards the birth canal. I remember knowing that I was highly aware of myself, that I didn't want to leave my comfortable haven. I didn't know I was in my mama's womb, I only knew of my existence--my awareness.

It is recorded in the hospital history that instead of coming down the birth canal, I was going up inside my mother almost killing her. The hospital contemplated giving her a Caecerian section after much complication. I was aware that I didn't want to leave my comfort. I remember this as though it happened just now.

There was another consciousness persuading me to go.

So from this empirical knowledge, I cannot commit to saying if thinking and awareness are two separate things. How could thinking be possible, I didn't know words, unless I heard them through mama's womb, but how coud I understand them? How could I think, yet I remember knowing of my existence, that I was an awareness who knew she didn't want out.

This is my first time sharing this experience with the world, I spoke of it only one other time just recently.

This story is my truth, my reality, which came out because of this thread, it is my opportunity to share with the world that the memory is an incredible existence.

Foresta Gump

[Anagogy]

Originally Posted by Jack

Does Awareness think?If Awareness is dreaming the world,then shouldn't be Awareness also thinking the world?I heard that when awareness takes thought forms,it becomes a world.If there is only Awareness and there is nothing other than Awareness,doesn't it mean that Awareness also produce thought forms?Awareness creates thought forms from Awareness,isn't this true?

To me, awareness and consciousness are the exact same thing. Everything is composed of consciousness. Thinking is a form of awareness. Belief is a form of awareness. Matter is a form of awareness.

All are states of action or energy, and it is the shape of the awareness of each given energy form that determines what "type" of action it is. The shape can be anything. Literally anything one would or could embrace as a potential reality.

All form is a kind of "focused" or "limited" awareness. For example if your awareness is focused as matter, your awareness would be limited to that existence, and you would not have intellectual or thinking awareness. A human being is an aggregate of many types of awareness, including material, emotional, intellectual and a whole host of other kinds. All awareness grows and expands. Matter is learning awareness lessons just as we are.

There is a spectrum of awareness ranging from the manifest, or completely objectified and quantified -- like matter, and the unmanifest or unquantifiable intangible realm of pure awareness. There are vibrational thresholds between the two sides of the coin which account for various esoteric planes that are observed by mystics and other explorers of consciousness.

[SimonaRich]

Originally Posted by Antarananda

This is a fundamental error. It's almost like the classical Descartian statement, "I think therefore I am". But when the mind rests and dissolves in silence, and pure awareness remains, we recognize that I still exist (I AM) without dependence on thinking or active functioning of the mind. It very simply proves that awareness exists beyond the mind.

Yes, of course awareness exist without the mind. Mind is only a tool through which awareness expresses itself.

Awareness is pure intelligence in the form of energy.

It is not thought, correct, it only expresses itself as thought through mind.

[nicholaspowiull]

I have always compared Awareness to meaning: Intuitiveness.

And Thinking to meaning: Mind.

They are both decision making processes. This is how I describe the difference between them....

Intuitiveness (Awareness)
Do you remember a time when you had an intuition experience? There are different levels of intuition, but I will describe them all as an instant knowing or deciding.

There was no thinking or guessing what to say or do, you just knew exactly within that moment what the best possible choice was within that given situation or perhaps you instinctively knew who was calling before you answered the phone. Alternatively, you could have made a choice without consciously being aware of why you made that choice. Perhaps you been planning to go to that party all week and all of sudden for no reason known to your consciousness, you decide not to go. Later you find out that the ceiling of the house that the party was at collapsed, injuring or taking the life of nearly everyone there.

Usually people experience intuition in a time where their life is threatened and they must make a quick choice to do something in order to survive. There are incredible and for most people unbelievable things happening in these key moment times. For example, a popular story is one of a mother who physically lifts a car up off from her baby to save her child’s life.

Intuition is always there and ready at all times with infinite capabilities.

The Mind (Where Thoughts Come From)
The mind is only the part of you that makes out patterns in objects by spotting differences/similarities through first separating you from everything else and draw ideas about who you are for the reason of making decisions. The mind is not the brain or the part of you that stores information. It is just a slow decision making process, but intuition is a decision making process as well, yet it is not limited like the mind.

Conclusion
Awareness, doesn't 'think' per say, it produces instant desires from infinite knowingness. The mind thinks, it is stuck in the realm of time, therefore it mostly thinks in terms of past or future. Awareness is always in the moment. It takes time to think. Awareness doesn't think, it just knows instantly what it wants through desire.

[smith1012]

excellent post nicholas

I too believe that awareness does not think and lives in the moment. Our past and future thoughts are just illusions of our minds. they do not exist at all. Most of us are automated to think which results in fear, ego-driven actions.

Not that im an expert on this - im still learning. But I'd like to present my input of what I seem to know.

[nicholaspowiull]

Originally Posted by smith1012

excellent post nicholas

Thank you Smith,

I often find, that when we hear that 'ringing truth', it's an remembrance of what we already knew. I use that as a guide to determine how close I am to who I remember the real me to be. We all know who we really are, it's just a remembering process. Once you remember that, it gets much easier to find and determine truth.

[smith1012]

Although I have a series of questions.

We are our awareness. So when I manifested my reality, how did I do so from the beginning? How did I manifest a reality where I was born from a woman's womb? How did I manifest a reality where smith starts off as a tiny baby human and grows to mature? If thoughts are what manifests, then my awareness needed to think to manifest the start of my reality right? hmmm

[Ontowhere]

The word Awareness, itself is a noun. It means heaving knowledge.
No need to think, when you know.

[nicholaspowiull]

Originally Posted by smith1012

Although I have a series of questions.

We are our awareness. So when I manifested my reality, how did I do so from the beginning? How did I manifest a reality where I was born from a woman's womb? How did I manifest a reality where smith starts off as a tiny baby human and grows to mature? If thoughts are what manifests, then my awareness needed to think to manifest the start of my reality right? hmmm

Everything is a vibrational process and science acknowledges that every vibration has a frequency to it. Everything, including human beings. We are vibrational creators who automatically translate vibration into experience. In other words, everything you hear, is a vibration that is translated into sound. Everything you see, is a vibration translated into sight (have a look under a high-powered microscope and you can see the moving vibration). Everything you touch, is a vibrational impulse that is translated into feeling. By understanding this concept, you can see that thoughts do not create, it is only the vibrational frequency that best matches that thought that creates the manifestation that happens. Thoughts are just human beings way to define and translate the vibration frequency that is all around that. However thoughts are just utterances and vibrational impulses.

In your pure essence: Awareness, you are pure vibration. Click here from more information.

[cacheborn]

Great post, Jack!
If you touch a hot plate, you take back your hand _instantly_. As soon as you become "aware" that the plate is hot, there is no time to think. With other things, it could be different.

[smith1012]

So everything I manifested was indirectly manifested? What you think doesn't EXACTLY manifest? The universe just puts out something that relates to the vibration?

What if I thought about wanting a specific car (say an 2009 model Acura TL, black in color). Will that manifest exactly or will the universe just give me a car since im generally vibrating thoughts of a car.

Also what does the subconcious have to do with this all. We touch a hot plate and immediately our body's reflex activates. Why? Because our subconcious knows that you dont want to touch hot plates, right?

Sorry, still trying to understand this more. It seems I sometimes mess up my understandings

[nicholaspowiull]

Originally Posted by smith1012

So everything I manifested was indirectly manifested? What you think doesn't EXACTLY manifest? The universe just puts out something that relates to the vibration?

What if I thought about wanting a specific car (say an 2009 model Acura TL, black in color). Will that manifest exactly or will the universe just give me a car since im generally vibrating thoughts of a car.

Let us start back here: Everything has vibration, but there are infinite frequencies in which vibration is held. Yes there is a frequency out there that holds the vibration of a "2009 model Acura TL, black", if you do not already have that manifestation in your life, then you are not a vibrational match for that frequency.

Let me use another example in order to explain this more easily, then we will come back to your example. Say you want to attract a romantic relationship, but you have not had enough relationships to know what you want or you have had many relationships but they are all the 'same type' of relationship.

The relationships you do attract, do match your own vibrational frequency, but it could be that the match is only on one level. Let's say that level of vibrational match is on a sexual vibrational and all the relationships you ever attracted only matched on that level. Within those relationships, you discover all the things you don't desire in a relationship because the contrast and difference between you and them. Knowing what you don't want in those relationships, helps you define what you do want.

However if you are only attracting the 'same type' of person when it comes to relationships, it's because you are continuously expressing a vibration of what you don't want, rather then what you do want, and the vibration has to give you what you focus on most. Therefore you are attracting what you don't want the most. In order to attract someone different you most change your focus into what you do want and ONLY what you do want, hence you change your vibrational frequency and can become a match for what you desire.

Now back to your example; you can't attract the vibrational frequency of "2009 model Acura TL, black" when you have other things in your frequency that don't match that vibration. You are sending out a different vibration frequency (different focus).

Only you know what that frequency is but as an example perhaps you are thinking you can't have that manifestation because you don't earn enough money or perhaps you think "the likely hood of attracting that manifestation is not likely". Every thought is a frequency that is attracting (or not attracting) something. The best thoughts you can come up with even your situation, is the best vibrational match to what you think about. The car you do have now, is the perfect vibrational match for you alignment of thought. You always get exactly what you think. Exactly what you think brings forth an exact equivalent of those thoughts.

In short, yes you can attract exact results once you become a vibrational match for that exact manifestation. Where-ever your Awareness is at, is what you are always attracting.

For more information click here.

[NexusOfCompletion]

Originally Posted by Jack

Does Awareness think?If Awareness is dreaming the world,then shouldn't be Awareness also thinking the world?I heard that when awareness takes thought forms,it becomes a world.If there is only Awareness and there is nothing other than Awareness,doesn't it mean that Awareness also produce thought forms?Awareness creates thought forms from Awareness,isn't this true?

Awareness is being. Thinking is a reactionary device to aid survival.

[Jack]

Thanks for your answers.

Originally Posted by Antarananda

I highly recommend that you read I Am That by Nisargadatta Maharaj. Talks with a genuine illumined Master which will clear all doubts like the sun dispels darkness.

I have read that book,although i didn't finish it.I have a few problems with the book.Maharaj says that world is in mind,and everything you see is a projection of your mind(if I remember right)But then he said that nature didn't allow miracles.And then said that everything happens randomly.

I don't like the ideas that everything happens randomly and nature don't allow miracles.If everything is in mind,everything is a dream and projection of mind,then how doesn't nature allow miracles?What about telekinesis(it's about moving things without touching them),what about breaking a spoon without doing anything to spoon physcially ?How are some people able to do these?Isn't it a miraculous thing?

[Judge]

Originally Posted by Jack

Does Awareness think?If Awareness is dreaming the world,then shouldn't be Awareness also thinking the world?I heard that when awareness takes thought forms,it becomes a world.If there is only Awareness and there is nothing other than Awareness,doesn't it mean that Awareness also produce thought forms?Awareness creates thought forms from Awareness,isn't this true?

You're using words to know the unknown. Most gurus get to the part where they say, no words can know it. Even the 'I am" must be negated.

Awareness
Dreaming
Thinking
Formlessness
Consciousness
Source
Energy
Light

All words to point to.............?

Ask the question........Who am I?........and never answer it.

Does awareness think?

A mind thinks, a mind can use the 5 senses to sense, but who is watching the mind and the 5 senses?.........and then you know.

Judge

[joecooool]

awareness is simply aware of any thoughts that come and take place. it doesnt bring them or fight them, it simply watches them. and allows them to be, and in not giving into them, and not giving any power to them, they will fade away as the minority of the awareness that they are. they have no power, they are but a small amount of the total awareness. like a dog that runs by, u dont try and encourage it or stop it, you simple let it pass through your awareness and then fade away as the powerless entity that it is.

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by Antarananda

This is a fundamental error. It's almost like the classical Descartian statement, "I think therefore I am". But when the mind rests and dissolves in silence, and pure awareness remains, we recognize that I still exist (I AM) without dependence on thinking or active functioning of the mind. It very simply proves that awareness exists beyond the mind.

How do you recognize "I AM" without thought? The thought must come from somewhere? I think "I exist" would be more appropriate to describe the form left in silence. Why assume the "I exist" is pure awareness and not self-awarness?

[magi13]

Originally Posted by Jack

Does Awareness think?If Awareness is dreaming the world,then shouldn't be Awareness also thinking the world?I heard that when awareness takes thought forms,it becomes a world.If there is only Awareness and there is nothing other than Awareness,doesn't it mean that Awareness also produce thought forms?Awareness creates thought forms from Awareness,isn't this true?

awareness comprises a human's or an animal's perception and cognitive reaction to a condition or event.

thought and thinking are mental forms and processes, respectively ("thought" is both.) Thinking allows beings to model the world and to deal with it effectively according to their objectives, plans, ends and desires.

if we link both thinking and awareness it's reflecting on our reaction on a certain condition or event. So awareness is more of a reaction not thinking per say. But we can reflect or think about our reaction.

[Old Soul]

Originally Posted by Jack

Does Awareness think?If Awareness is dreaming the world,then shouldn't be Awareness also thinking the world?I heard that when awareness takes thought forms,it becomes a world.If there is only Awareness and there is nothing other than Awareness,doesn't it mean that Awareness also produce thought forms?Awareness creates thought forms from Awareness,isn't this true?

awareness does not think....... awareness is simply being, thinking can run across the screne of being...... but thinking is not the same as being

[supertom]

Originally Posted by Jack

Thanks for your answers.



I have read that book,although i didn't finish it.I have a few problems with the book.Maharaj says that world is in mind,and everything you see is a projection of your mind(if I remember right)But then he said that nature didn't allow miracles.And then said that everything happens randomly.

I don't like the ideas that everything happens randomly and nature don't allow miracles.If everything is in mind,everything is a dream and projection of mind,then how doesn't nature allow miracles?What about telekinesis(it's about moving things without touching them),what about breaking a spoon without doing anything to spoon physcially ?How are some people able to do these?Isn't it a miraculous thing?

its amazing how a illuminated souls doesnt even know the law of attraction just goes to show theres many paths