How did we first become conscious?

[Jay Pavlina]

This is more of a personal question about myself, but I'm opening it up to everyone. For those of us who are extremely conscious... how did it happen?

What did I do differently that caused me to "awaken?" Why is it that I can give advice to so many people that causes them to look at things in a completely new way? Why can I stare at a flower for hours and not get bored? How come even though I don't try, I become more conscious every day?

And my main question (which could be interpreted as arrogance but is not meant that way): Why am I so wise? So many people have told me I changed their life. I've taken on people that call me their teacher. It's so easy for me to see things, but for other people... it's hard. And recently I started writing. More ideas keep coming, even ideas for other mediums than writing; such as workshops and videos, and they never stop. Sometimes I can't sleep because I just write ideas all night. I'm serious.

All of this happens AUTOMATICALLY. I don't do anything.

Why am I like this, but most people aren't? I don't get it. What happened?

I don't have a need to understand this, and maybe it's not something that can be understood... but I'm very curious. Feel free to answer with your own interpretation. Your comments are appreciated.

[fellowtraveler]

Hmmm. The fact that you ask this means there's still a goodly piece of the puzzle missing.

Perhaps you bumped your head when you were small?

[Judge]

Originally Posted by Jay Pavlina

This is more of a personal question about myself, but I'm opening it up to everyone. For those of us who are extremely conscious... how did it happen?

What did I do differently that caused me to "awaken?" Why is it that I can give advice to so many people that causes them to look at things in a completely new way? Why can I stare at a flower for hours and not get bored? How come even though I don't try, I become more conscious every day?

And my main question (which could be interpreted as arrogance but is not meant that way): Why am I so wise? So many people have told me I changed their life. I've taken on people that call me their teacher. It's so easy for me to see things, but for other people... it's hard. And recently I started writing. More ideas keep coming, even ideas for other mediums than writing; such as workshops and videos, and they never stop. Sometimes I can't sleep because I just write ideas all night. I'm serious.

All of this happens AUTOMATICALLY. I don't do anything.

Why am I like this, but most people aren't? I don't get it. What happened?

I don't have a need to understand this, and maybe it's not something that can be understood... but I'm very curious. Feel free to answer with your own interpretation. Your comments are appreciated.

Hmmmm.........I'm confusedYou ask a lot of questions......but your own website seems to offer the answers???

Judge

[cacheborn]

I think I understand what you are saying. And I would say you are very fortunate that you have this ability all the time.

I have experienced something like this, but for a short period. (I am talking here about being conscious of every little thing that is around me. As for helping others part, I do not have much experience.) I could not sustain it for longer time. Now, after rerading your post, I am intrigued to find out more about this.

I have read about this in Eric Berne's "What do you say after you say Hello?" I would suggest reading the first chapter (and if you like the whole book, but that is upto you ) Here Berne talks about the way you smile when someone smiles at you. You have to understand that this smile is never going to happen again and to understand that you have to throw all the garbage that you collected since you were born and be in the present moment. Its a fascinating interpretation from the POV of Psychoanalysis.

[Jay Pavlina]

Originally Posted by fellowtraveler

Hmmm. The fact that you ask this means there's still a goodly piece of the puzzle missing.

Perhaps you bumped your head when you were small?

It started happening about two and a half years ago after I nearly killed myself filming a movie. I got really sick. Maybe the intensity of the event triggered me to start being introspective and questioning things. And then it snowballed from there and never stopped.

Originally Posted by Judge

Hmmmm.........I'm confusedYou ask a lot of questions......but your own website seems to offer the answers???

My website never answers why. And I feel that I can write things without understanding them logically. I just sort of write. I never claim that what I write is truth.

Originally Posted by cacheborn

I think I understand what you are saying. And I would say you are very fortunate that you have this ability all the time.

I don't have it all the time by default... not yet anyway; and I had to go through hell to get it. But I can tap into it anytime. I'll take a look at the book you recommend. The best explanation I got so far was from Eckhart Tolle's books. When I read them, I was like, "Oh... now I understand." But I still don't understand what first triggers a person to become conscious. I guess Eckhart Tolle's theory is that suffering causes it. And now that I think about it, that would make sense in my case. I was just wondering what other people thought.

Let me throw this in also. I got a psychic reading from Erin a few months ago and she told me I'm clairaudient. That blew my mind. She told me if I wanted to, I could give people psychic readings. So I guess my thoughts come from somewhere else? I don't understand it at all. It is really weird when someone tells you you're psychic. I'm still not sure how I feel about it.

[cacheborn]

Let me throw this in also. I got a psychic reading from Erin a few months ago and she told me I'm clairaudient.

That's very interesting. I have never thought/expericenced it from this point of view. I have always tried to find answers from psychology or philosophy. I was also interested into Gestalt therapy for some time.
I will also take a look at the book you mentioned.

[torilink]

Some of us have chimed in on this topic in previous threads: What Triggers The Awakening?

[Jay Pavlina]

I have my answer now. I already knew it, but I didn't know I knew it. I think that's usually the case. Wisdom comes from within.

I can now see that a combination of suffering and a shattering of my beliefs caused me to awaken. I wrote a lot about it in my article, Passion for Life. But there are other things that happened in addition to what I wrote about there.

I think everything started when I first went to college. I was oblivious to so much because I grew up in a wholesome suburban town and my parents sheltered me quite a bit. I went to college in Chicago and saw a lot of dark things, like homeless people, drugs, and drinking; and this was also right after I broke up with my girlfriend so I was extremely lonely. People would have sex on the bed underneath me while I tried to sleep. I also suffered a severe injury and lost my job at The Oprah Show. It was a really dark time. All I can remember when I think about that time is intense anger and helplessness.

Seeing all of my beliefs shattered caused an opening within me. What other beliefs were wrong? I then explored religions, such as Christianity, and I considered myself saved by Jesus. Then I kept on questioning things, and a year later I wasn't a Christian and was still confused. I followed my own path for about two years. It led to the darkest thing I had ever faced. Everything I loved was taken away. But I now see that it was after that event that I first saw that trees (and everything else) are beautiful. I spent entire days walking around in parks and touching trees... for real! But I already wrote about that in the article I referred to.

Originally Posted by torilink

Some of us have chimed in on this topic in previous threads: What Triggers The Awakening?

Thanks for that. It looks like my realization is on par with what everyone said over there.

So I guess for most people, suffering causes the awakening; but there are other avenues too. Sometimes I am amazed at the simplicity and complexity of life. Thanks for everyone's comments. Feel free to continue the discussion if you like.

[Liveformx64]

As a flower reaches for the sunlight, our brains reach for the light of truth. It is universal and undeniable.

Now, what sort of diseases and programming we pick up along the way that alter our course, is a different story altogether.

I would encourage you first to take a hike down the mountain of your perceived isolation in your experiences. You are not alone in your thinking, and you are not particularly gifted. We are all cookies from the same batch of dough.

If you want some distortion free reading, read this: The Law of One (Ra Material)

take it for what it is worth but if you are aligned with truth like you claim to be, this book should resonate with you highly.

[Jay Pavlina]

Originally Posted by Liveformx64

I would encourage you first to take a hike down the mountain of your perceived isolation in your experiences. You are not alone in your thinking, and you are not particularly gifted. We are all cookies from the same batch of dough.

I never said I thought I was alone, gifted, or different from everyone else. If I thought that, there would be no purpose in posting on this forum because no one could provide an answer.

[phantom3165]

Originally Posted by Jay Pavlina

This is more of a personal question about myself, but I'm opening it up to everyone. For those of us who are extremely conscious... how did it happen?

What did I do differently that caused me to "awaken?" Why is it that I can give advice to so many people that causes them to look at things in a completely new way? Why can I stare at a flower for hours and not get bored? How come even though I don't try, I become more conscious every day?

And my main question (which could be interpreted as arrogance but is not meant that way): Why am I so wise? So many people have told me I changed their life. I've taken on people that call me their teacher. It's so easy for me to see things, but for other people... it's hard. And recently I started writing. More ideas keep coming, even ideas for other mediums than writing; such as workshops and videos, and they never stop. Sometimes I can't sleep because I just write ideas all night. I'm serious.

All of this happens AUTOMATICALLY. I don't do anything.

Why am I like this, but most people aren't? I don't get it. What happened?

I don't have a need to understand this, and maybe it's not something that can be understood... but I'm very curious. Feel free to answer with your own interpretation. Your comments are appreciated.

Maybe a better question would be,"How did we become unconscious?"
I think for those of us who look hard and find some way to be sincere with ourselves, there is a kind of Rosetta stone or core truth that can be found. If approached with the burning desire to know and understand, this truth can be seen ever more clearly in everything around us. The trick is not to own it. When we say I do this or did this who is this "i" that is claiming it? I find for myself many of the things you describe to be true and "i" think that "i" did this and ever so subtly the little "i" or ego claims what has been given me freely. I am just a vessel through which consciousness can come through me and manifest in this world. This is not a judgment, as there is no right or wrong way on the path. It is merely a pointer towards something you may wish to investigate on your own.

To stand in front of your self and ask;"Who am I?" is the Ultimate Question

[magi13]

Hmmm is this similar to understanding? In my case it was more of an, it just happened. The right circumstance, kind of fate. It was like, then I just knew.

Another thing I noticed was that somethings have a sequence or order of events that kept happening again and again only that it had different factors but similar results.

If I am to backtrack on everything. I think it was when I was about 9 or 7, then I just had the urge to do something.

Then later when I made my sister cry, I realized that was wrong (I consciously felt why).

Then later when I was in college when I kept feeling de ja vu all over and over again.

Eventually till I learned ah that's how it worked with memory.

If I am to find the commonality between them, it's more like this.

1. It was a specific event.
2. It felt like a do or die situation
3. I had to choose and not regret it later on in life

This is a very good question. Now that I understand how memory works, you've given me another nice puzzle to tackle. :3 Thanks.

[allirowe23]

My personal belief is that we are among the chosen. God told me once that I was. God needed an army to fight a war and we're being raised to be that. Perhaps we've met God. Perhaps he called our spirits to him before our births and asked us to become born for this.
I don't believe you wake yourself up, just as it's very difficult (at least for me..) to wake myself voluntarily from a dream. We were called into action. Called to awaken. Sometimes sent guides who plant the seed of awakening without even being aware they are doing it.
I realized recently though, that I was called long before I was called. My journey began long before I was conscious and I was talking to God and spirits long before I knew their significance or even their reality.
Bottom line is we were chosen. Because we are special. Because we have the capacity. And the courage. And the willingness. While I would never trade this life for an unconscious one, I know that I've been through many painful obstacles and difficult tasks that most people never deal with. Perhaps we volunteered out of love for our God, to bear this pain for the sake of the direction of the world.

[fellowtraveler]

Now comes a good synchronicity. I woke this morning with the words, "to arms!" in my head. Not in a violent way, but as in a call to do something(s) good to help save the planet. Perhaps you and I discussed this last night.

I've read that one conscious soul can make up for hundreds of thousands of unconscious ones.

I'm not sure who the "we" is in your post. I try to avoid the idea of special-ness - who am I to say who's "special"? Everyone has their path and purpose.

Originally Posted by allirowe23

My personal belief is that we are among the chosen. God told me once that I was. God needed an army to fight a war and we're being raised to be that. Perhaps we've met God. Perhaps he called our spirits to him before our births and asked us to become born for this.
I don't believe you wake yourself up, just as it's very difficult (at least for me..) to wake myself voluntarily from a dream. We were called into action. Called to awaken. Sometimes sent guides who plant the seed of awakening without even being aware they are doing it.
I realized recently though, that I was called long before I was called. My journey began long before I was conscious and I was talking to God and spirits long before I knew their significance or even their reality.
Bottom line is we were chosen. Because we are special. Because we have the capacity. And the courage. And the willingness. While I would never trade this life for an unconscious one, I know that I've been through many painful obstacles and difficult tasks that most people never deal with. Perhaps we volunteered out of love for our God, to bear this pain for the sake of the direction of the world.

[Chris Cade]

I was not very spiritually inclined for most of my life. A few months after getting married, my wife said to me:

"Get some spiritual direction or a divorce lawyer."

I was pretty pissed off, but since I was too attached to money to hire a divorce lawyer, I decided on the spiritual direction...


...wait, no... I mean because I was attached to my wife!

[allirowe23]

Originally Posted by fellowtraveler

Now comes a good synchronicity. I woke this morning with the words, "to arms!" in my head. Not in a violent way, but as in a call to do something(s) good to help save the planet. Perhaps you and I discussed this last night.

I've read that one conscious soul can make up for hundreds of thousands of unconscious ones.

I'm not sure who the "we" is in your post. I try to avoid the idea of special-ness - who am I to say who's "special"? Everyone has their path and purpose.

I don't know if you meant me about the "you and i discussed last night." I'm assuming not but I couldnt figure out what it related to.

The "we" in my post is anyone who feels they are part of the we. If you believe you are part of the army then youre part of the army. God isn't one to turn people away.

I just think it was all established before birth. We aren't special in a better than everyone else kind of way. But we are a group of people with a very important purpose in common. We were either chosen, or volunteered before birth, to live for that certain important purpose.

[Wombels]

Hello,

I believe some people amongst walk with a nail sticking in their brain, deep inside they feel something but cannot explain or give it proper meaning, yet!

I have few questions for you, no need to answer it if you don’t feel comfortable with it.

How awake are you?

Have you been down your blue print (bloodline)?

Have you been in a past or future (not physically)?

Do you like or enjoy the touch of rain?

Do you feel pets or other animals respond to you?

Are you happy?

Do you (sometimes) know what people will say before they address you in conversation?

What would you like to know?

Would be great if you would take the time to answer some of these questions, If you don’t like the idea of it, don’t bother.

Greetings Wombels,

[Foresta Gump]

Consciousness becomes one when Mr. Sperm unites with Miss Egg, together they become oneness and produces other consciousnesses.

Foresta Gump
BC Canada

[NexusOfCompletion]

The more conditioned your consciousness is, the less you will be able to see. By removing the conditioning you see things as they truly are. You have a less conditioned awareness compared to your peers.

Contemplate these ideas:
-Do you have an advantage over someone who has never questioned their awareness?
-What does it mean to be aware?
-What role do words, symbols, and concepts play in your perception?
-How can you become single-pointed in your mind?

[SimonaRich]

If you are wise, you should know why you are so conscious

I could not look at a flower for hours without doing anything, as that would be waste of my time, but I consider myself to be conscious.

We become conscious because we see the mistakes of the masses and not fall into the same trap that they fall into. We see opportunities where others see failure, and we are happy because we know the truth behind all things, whilst others see only manifestations.

If you are that conscious, you should know that!