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I don't think there's anything to be scared of | |
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| When I was really young...maybe 4 or 5 or perhaps younger...I remember having moments during playtime thinking...wait a minute...where was I before I was here...being this kid? I thought about it for a while, and then had a feeling it didin't really matter so much at that moment and in any rate, everything was all right. I can't say I know what it feels like to be dead...I don't have a way of knowing that. I choose to believe that death is an event and not a state of being (or not-being as the case may be). We all know that every BODY dies...seems to be the way it works. Bodies are temporary. There is something else that is me...that goes on...I'm not sure what it is, but it's not my body, and I am confident that is does not die...it changes, it remembers the truth...it wakes up...whatever, my consciousness, my point of view continues to be. Maybe, I realize that I was in the astral plane, on got on a $5 ride called "Earth"...when I die, I get off the ride and move on to the next fun thing to do. Maybe, when I die, I go see my spiritual guidance counselor and we discuss what I achieved in this most recent class in my "Earth School" Master's program. Whatever happens, all I know is, I don't remember ever being dead...so I can't tell you for sure. |
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I have a book about dead people and a death Q&A written by some Colombian man. I'm not sure it's particularly accurate, but here's the words: "Death is an unpainful disease. Unlike strokes and comas, you can never stop being dead." But what does dying feel like? Answer: Nothing. When you're dead, you're just unconscious and sleeping forever. If I'm on a list of alive people in my country, and I die, will I be removed from the list? Answer: Yes and no. If no-one knows you're dead, then you won't be removed. If someone knows, they might remove you from the list. Can I stop being dead when I'm dead? Answer: You're joking. Only preschoolers think that. We all know that death is permanent and that you can never stop being dead. Is this information all accurate? | |
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I honestly believe that after physical death will be light(feeling), liberating and freeing -a relief of sorts. Just think of all the issues you wont have to deal with any more lol Death of the ego's another ball game altogether though. It's only came up once for me but it terrified me so much "I" backed out of it as soon as I realised what was happening. It's hard to articulate but I felt as though I was being spead out in every possible direction inwardly and outwardly & literally going to vanish. Hope this helps, dont sweat it dude eQ Edit: I wouldn't touch that Columbian blokes teachings with someone else's intillect let alone my own. Last edited by eQuanimity; 12-31-2008 at 12:06 PM. |
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What it feels like to die is a different question that what it feels like to be dead. The former depends on the way you die, and the activity of your consciousness during the process. If you are numbed on drugs, or your pain receptors are otherwise shut down, then it stands to reason you will feel little of anything. If you are shot by a bullet in the gut, then you will likely feel a lot of pain before you lose consciousness. The question you asked, what it feels like to be dead, is moot, as you are no longer a sentient entity at that point. There is no "feeler" to feel anything. But if you must know, my best guess is that to be dead "feels" like being in deep, dreamless sleep. Are you aware in that state? Do you feel pain, or anything else? Can you remember what it's like? Your waking consciousness really has no clue about it; that state is a concept defined by its absence of information. It has no substance itself, and exists only in contrast to the waking state. |
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I was being a little funny... But, I did mean what I said. You can get all the information and opinions you want...but that doesn't make any of it any more provable. All we know for sure, is that bodies do die...that is an earth fact. All you need to do is choose want you want to believe and live as though that were true...or not it's your choice. The way I see it you have something like these options. 1) Life is over when your body dies. Nothing to worry about...you just won't be anymore...sorta of like deep sleep forever...you are here...then you are gone. That is a valid and rather common belief...i would not be afraid of it. If that is the way it is then that's it...everyone else that was alive at some time and is now "not alive" (because their body died) died already and the world kept spinning without them...so it can't be all bad. 2) Life goes on some how after your body dies. Maybe you go to heaven or whatever you want to believe...but whatever you choose to believe happens after...some part of you continues that is not your body. This is valid belief held by many people. Regardless of what anyone believes...there is an absolute truth to physical death...what you or anyone else believes will not change it. What your beliefs might change is HOW you live your life on earth. I like to believe that life goes on after my body dies...it gives me more to do after earth. Life decisions are not so "end of the world"...if I screw up totally, I can give it another whirl in a brand new body. Steve did a post about this...hang on... Life After Death by Steve Pavlina Steve is a much better writer than me...so check out this post...you might like it... Good luck in finding your "truth". | |
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Please check out Amazon.com: Journey of Souls: Case Studies of Life Between Lives: Michael Newton: Books This is one mans take on the whole deal. He has some interesting "proof" to back up his ideas too. |
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Sometimes when I wake up from a deep sleep, there is a moment where I can't remember anything. I just exist. Then I think, "This is probably what it feels like when you die." If you stopped existing completely, which I don't think is the case, you won't feel anything. No reason to fear it. If you still exist after you die, you'll either remember your life or you won't. If you don't, you won't know you don't remember, so it doesn't matter. If you do, then... cool. So, I don't think there is any reason to fear death, except maybe the pain right when you die. It might hurt if you are burned alive or something. |
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Interesting, yesterday I read this thread and then I dreamed about dying. In the dream I was listening to a story about an old dying man, and I eventually became my own version of this man. And then I died. After death I became my real self, just without any worries or anything like that. It's probably not very accurate though, as I could still interact with this world, although most people couldn't see me. It felt quite funny though. I wouldn't mind dreaming about dying more often if that's what it's like Last edited by JMononoetoe; 01-02-2009 at 08:01 AM. |
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| Different question - dying from trauma or disease could be very unpleasant, but most places nowadays they will anesthetize you, and in effect you will just fall asleep and not wake up. After that, I don't know. But still, why worry? Death is the least of problems - you could get a condition where you are in constant pain but not die. What's worse?
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I can tell you it is shown that as you die you will experience a surge of N-N-Dimethyltryptamine released from your pineal gland. This is also released when you enter heavy REM sleep. My experience on this drug has paralelled many others, you will go through a tube, and be greeted by entities of love and redemption, you will feel as if you are your core self without any markings of your ego. What happens from there when your body shuts off is anyones guess.
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Read the article, it's a very good insight on what is one possibility of what happens after death, and it's very non-christian. No Jesus in it at all. Angels and Demons were around before Christianity and it's precursors, they just called them something else. As for what happens when you actually die. It depends on how. Lots of people feel really cold as their body goes numb. Sometimes there's complete agony as you are hurt in a violent way. Drowning is supposedly the worst way to die, because there's huge amounts of panic, and then you get the slow and painful agony of your body being deprived of oxygen. Not nice at all. Heart attacks are kind of painful and scary, but if it's sudden you might not notice. Dying in your sleep is probably the way to go. You just fall asleep one night and never wake up. Do some research into it, it's really fascinating. It's a major part of the human experience, so there's no reason to be scared of it. The more you know though, the better you can lead your life. And that's really what it's all about. | ||
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So is drowning the worst way? I'm telling you I don't believe in Jesus since there's a very, very phony myth saying "that Jesus never dies except on Friday the 13th". That's not true. You can't live for over 1,000 years and you can't just die and revive. | |
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It's been said that drowning is the worst way to die due to the fact that it takes so long, and your body knows exactly what's going to happen and goings into super panic mode. Imagine the most scared you've ever been and double it. Last night though my roommate visited a fellow employee at his work who was dying. Last week he was fine, but then suddenly he went into renal failure and they discovered he had liver cancer, kidney failure and many other ailments. He couldn't move, was bright yellow and in extreme agony. The doctors did their best with drugs, but they say he's got a very very slim chance of survival. For me that would be the worst way to go. A slow death in hospital, where you are in pain and can't do anything. You just have to lie there and wait to die because there's nothing you can do. You could think about your life and what you've been through, your regrets and your accomplishments, but in the end you know that you will be gone soon. That's pretty awful in my book. Back to the article: Yes, but there's a very big difference between just plainly not thinking something is true and disbelieving something to the point where you block all positive information about it and not being able to learn anything new. It's actually a way to block truth and power from your life, because you just cut off a good source of information. It doesn't matter whether or not Jesus was real or not. What really matters is what you can do with the information you find out about. I've found that Jesus as written in the Bible probably is not real, and probably didn't do all the things that were said, but what is written about him is very wise and enlightened. In the bible, Jesus spoke at lengths about happiness, honesty, being true to yourself and forgiving others, all very good things to learn. Get what you can from what you read, and just ignore all the mythical hoo hah. Just don't cut yourself off from what could be some of the best information out there. Lastly: The article is *NOT* about Jesus. Sheesh. I already said that. |
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Also, I want to ask this: Can a group of genius scientists and philosiphers use a VERY scientific method to turn the dead guy into a statue? Anyway, my mother told me that death doesn't cause any pain no matter what happens. Is that true? My mind is extra-triple billion times confused. | |
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Pain itself is the body alerting your mind to the fact that it's taking damage. It's like the "check engine" warning light in the car, but in order for you to actually notice, they had to make it really strong. If you feel pain and can come to terms with it, it lessens in intensity. Just let your body know that you got the message and will do something about it. As for deaths that don't cause pain. Massive head trauma will kill you almost instantly. Some drugs and drinking yourself to death will kill you while you are unaware that it's happening. And dying in your sleep is probably the least painful because you are too busy being asleep. Quote:
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I've also found that the easiest way to stop being confused is to come to terms with the idea that you *WILL* die. It could be today, tomorrow, next week or in 60 years. But just like you were born, you will die. And it's also part of the beauty of life. What will you do with your life while you are here? How do you want to impact the world? What kind of stuff will you do given the time limit you have? People wait too much because they expect to be around forever, or at least a very long time. If you really get in touch with the fact that you have only about 80 years to live, or about 30 thousand days, then they'd live better. Let me put it into perspective. You know how time sometimes flies past and you don't know where it went. Hours just slip by and you don't know what happened. If you managed lived to 80, you'd only have 30,000 days to do everything you ever wanted. It seems like a lot, but it will quickly be gone. | ||||
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Well, i heard about some lady who lived until she was 120. I want to be like her! But how can you live for over 100 years? | |
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Why do you want to live for 100 years anyways? | |
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