11:11 meaning?

[Gaspar DiSalo]

Hi, I've been lurking on the forums for close to a year and I am finally compelled to post. Not sure if anyone has posted regarding this but....

The other night I went to sleep early (9:30PM) and woke up staring at my alarm clock. There were no noises or external stimulus to waken me that I am aware of.

The time was 11:11

Steve has mentioned the appearance of 11:11 recently in some of his blogs.

Anyone have any thoughts regarding this? Anyone else have a similar experience or increased appearance of 11:11 in their lives?

I appreciate any insights offered.

G

[velvet1]

111 — Monitor your thoughts carefully, and be sure to only think about what you want, not what you don’t want. This sequence is a sign that there is a gate of opportunity opening up, and your thoughts are manifesting into form at record speeds. The 111 is like the bright light of a flash bulb. It means the universe has just taken a snapshot of your thoughts and is manifesting them into form. Are you pleased with what thoughts the universe has captured? If not, correct your thoughts (ask your angels to help you with this if you have difficulty controlling or monitoring your thoughts).

11:11 Angels - What do the numbers mean?

That is why some people believe that 11:11 means you can wish for something. But in away, I kind of get it though. At the time your thoughts are capture, kind of like a picture. It is send out to the universe, so I kind of see it as a law of attraction.

[Ravanous]

They're just numbers that humans have created. Math and numbers are human constructs that help us keep our rhythm and progress and help us predict likely outcomes for both physical and mental events. They have no external application besides what we put into them. The idea that there is some significance about a humanly constructed and agreed upon time of the day sounds really silly. But that's just me.

I like 11:11 because 11 is my favorite number.

[fellowtraveler]

I think the judicious use of the seach function will provide much reading material on this topic.

Originally Posted by Gaspar DiSalo

Hi, I've been lurking on the forums for close to a year and I am finally compelled to post. Not sure if anyone has posted regarding this but....

The other night I went to sleep early (9:30PM) and woke up staring at my alarm clock. There were no noises or external stimulus to waken me that I am aware of.

The time was 11:11

Steve has mentioned the appearance of 11:11 recently in some of his blogs.

Anyone have any thoughts regarding this? Anyone else have a similar experience or increased appearance of 11:11 in their lives?

I appreciate any insights offered.

G

[Gaspar DiSalo]

Thanks for the replies so far !

I did a search on the forums for 11:11 and returned nothing. I did some general google searches yesterday. I was surprised by the number of results/related pages.

I didn't know this was such a phenom !!

Very interesting.

Until recently, I may have dismissed such ideas. There has been much upheaval in my life lately - too many other 'coincidences' to ignore this.

Change seems to be afoot everywhere.

It will be good.


G

[fellowtraveler]

Originally Posted by Gaspar DiSalo

I did a search on the forums for 11:11 and returned nothing. I did some general google searches yesterday. I was surprised by the number of results/related pages.
I didn't know this was such a phenom !!

It should come up in a search here, it's been talked about much. Yes, there's some wild stuff out there...I think there's some sorting to be done.

Until recently, I may have dismissed such ideas. There has been much upheaval in my life lately - too many other 'coincidences' to ignore this.
Change seems to be afoot everywhere.

You might be interested to Google "timewave and novelty theory".

It will be good.

I think so. For me boring is the worst thing that can happen, and it will be anything but that, I believe.

[Lil Chris]

From my experience, I see numbers like these three and four times a day...

There does not seem to be a pattern or anything, but I'll see like 11:11, 12:12, 1:11, 2:22 etc... several times a day. I have noticed that the more I "notice" it, the more it happens...

In fact today so far I've noticed 12:12 and 1:11

[Subscreet]

There's even a name for it.

Confirmation bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

the 11:11 "phenomenon" is pretty much a textbook example of confirmation bias.

[Gaspar DiSalo]

Interesting.

Today, I was at work and it happened again. This time it appeared as double 11:11's.

I was performing a procedure that requires recording times for each step completed. I work with a dispatcher over the telephone who also tracks the times. When I called him to report I had completed steps 27&28 of the procedure, he informed me over the phone that step 27 was completed at 11:11AM and step 28 was completed at 11:11 AM as well.

I never even caught on until I looked at what I had written in my logbook afterwards and discovered I had written:

Step 27 - 11:11
Step 28 - 11:11

My mind was not really paying attention to the time either. Not like I was consciously waiting for 11:11 or anything. It really surprised me when I looked at what I had written moments later. (surprised would be a tame way of putting it!!)

This all may be just as described above - subliminal messaging,confirmation bias etc...

However, I think I will choose to believe that it is not. It is far more interesting to believe in a higher order at work. This is the latest in a small series of 'coincidences' that have happened to me in the last few months. (This is the first involving numerology though)

Things that make you go Hmmmm....

Thanks again for all the responses.

G

[Subscreet]

Originally Posted by stellasky

before i saw 11:11 I never thought about it, the first time I did though, there was something there other than my mind...a connection

This is exactly my point. Having faith in something without proof isn't indicative of higher consciousness, it's exactly the opposite.

This all may be just as described above - subliminal messaging,confirmation bias etc...

However, I think I will choose to believe that it is not. It is far more interesting to believe in a higher order at work. This is the latest in a small series of 'coincidences' that have happened to me in the last few months. (This is the first involving numerology though)

Things that make you go Hmmmm....

What about the thousands of times you've looked at a clock and there was no pattern? You're completely disregarding them. Any of us could do the same thing with any combination of numbers. It's just a matter of statistics.We all see clocks countless times every day. It's nothing more than a simple trick. What "higher order" could possibly be behind this and to what end would it serve?

Once again, if your goal is truly higher consciousness then why would you disregard a quite large amount of evidence just so something fits your preconceived worldview? Doing that is only going to limit your consciousness, no? The wiki cites several articles and peer-reviewed journals. If you want to see as far as you can, you'd do well to stand on the shoulders of giants.

[Eric Revelin]

There are times when I've suddenly been prompted to look at the clock and I see a string of numbers like 11:11. I'm not sure what to think of it, but I know it's not completely random. The possible explanations range from a subconscious knowing (I have a very good sense of time) to an angel's whisper compelling me to do it. I'm an agnostic myself but considering the times when I've noticed these numbers, and the fact that it's been happening a lot more recently, I'm beginning to think there's some significance.

[Subscreet]

What about the countless times you've looked at the clock and it hasn't shown 11:11? And what do you make of the mountains of evidence that say it's just a coincidence? Nothing more than a simple trick.

I can unequivocally say that there's no significance to it and that your "feelings" have virtually no weight compared to the aforementioned mountains of evidence. You don't "know" it's not random. I'm sure you're convinced you do, but you have no legitimate evidence to support that, just some vague new-age psuedoscience.

[Eric Revelin]

Originally Posted by Subscreet

What about the countless times you've looked at the clock and it hasn't shown 11:11? And what do you make of the mountains of evidence that say it's just a coincidence? Nothing more than a simple trick.

I didn't say it was 11:11 every single time I looked at it. I'm noting times when I just spontaneously looked, often because I felt a little nudge to do so. And there have been times when I've felt that way and it wasn't 11:11. The tricky thing about intuition is that when you want to feel the things associated with it the mind can emulate them, but there is a key (albeit subtle) difference between intuitive nudges that turn out to be correct and the ones that turn out to be fanciful wishes. The times when I've felt a genuine nudge, or I just looked totally at random when I'd have no reason to and normally wouldn't, I have seen those numbers.

I can unequivocally say that there's no significance to it and that your "feelings" have virtually no weight compared to the aforementioned mountains of evidence. You don't "know" it's not random. I'm sure you're convinced you do, but you have no legitimate evidence to support that, just some vague new-age psuedoscience.

Unequivocally? That seems like a stretch. Mountains of evidence? I don't think you've got evidence either way, you've just got a reasonable hypothesis that it's more likely coincidence, and there are indications that it could fall under confirmation bias.

I listed potential reasons that the numbers might not mean anything; I know my mind could be timing it so I see what I'm looking for. I'm well aware of how my mind works and how I can be biased to certain outcomes. However, that explanation doesn't cover every instance when I've seen them.

It's also a common occurrence that I'll get e-mails or calls at those times, which is significantly less predictable than the numbers on a clock, and while it isn't a daily occurrence it's compelling for how often it happens.

I don't buy the new age theories hook, line, and sinker. I'm not imposing their meaning on the numbers. I'm not imposing any solid meaning on them, it just seems to indicate good things. I never said this was evidence, I never said anyone else should believe it, I merely shared my own conclusion because I think the subject is interesting.

[fellowtraveler]

Originally Posted by Gaspar DiSalo

...However, I think I will choose to believe that it is not. It is far more interesting to believe in a higher order at work. This is the latest in a small series of 'coincidences' that have happened to me in the last few months. (This is the first involving numerology though)

Things that make you go Hmmmm....

Thanks again for all the responses.

G

According to Ravenous you're an idiot, and according to Subscreet your feelings have no weight.

It's great to have a place to come to and be set straight, isn't it?

[Eisho]

I have had perhaps similar experiences with the numbers 22 and 44. Anyone know what that might mean?

Cheers,

Eisho

[stellasky]

Originally Posted by Subscreet

This is exactly my point. Having faith in something without proof isn't indicative of higher consciousness, it's exactly the opposite.

just to be clear, I wasn't intimating my "higher consciousness" my point was that every thing has a consciousness, even numbers..man may have created numbers but in my opinion, they already existed...

[Michael Chui]

"The Law of Fives states simply that: All things happen in fives, or are divisible by or are multiples of five, or are somehow directly or indirectly appropriate to 5.

The Law of Fives is never wrong."

[stellasky]

Thinkexist.com: "Faith is not belief without proof but trust without reservation"

Wikipedia:
Faith is a belief in the trustworthiness of an idea. Formal usage of the word "faith" is usually reserved for concepts of religion, as in theology, where it almost universally refers to a trusting belief in a transcendent reality, or else in a Supreme Being and said being's role in the order of transcendent, spiritual things.

I don't get why it's opposite so just to be clear, I wasn't intimating my supposed "higher consciousness" my point was that every thing has a consciousness, even numbers..man may have created numbers but in my opinion, they already existed...

If everything has a consciousness then perhaps repeating numbers have meanings, that is if you believe there is a higher order other than peer reviewed journals..

OR..perhaps a higher order or higher spiritual beings are communicating through numbers...
I mean isn't that what we do?
Before digital clocks, it was harder to take notice of repeating numbers...
but still people talked about it...

Why would you assume that I haven't read anything scientific on the subject or that my view is preconceived? I usually read as much as I can on subjects both pro and con before I formulate an opinion and if they jive with my gut feelings, my intuition I'll go with it but if not, I'll take my gut anyday.

I don't believe in coincidences, but that's just my opinion

[Dan Koch]

Very similar experience.

Mine occurred for months i don't like to looks at the clock too much but every time i did. 11:11

This could be anything to anyone:
-God
-Subconscious
-Latent meaning

Who knows. All I know is that every time I see 11:11 i make a wish. Ironically, the Mayans scheduled for the world to end at 11:11...

[Michael Chui]

Originally Posted by stellasky

my point was that every thing has a consciousness, even numbers..

Does science have consciousness? How about consciousness? What about coincidences? Do they have one, or several? How would they feel about your disbelief in them? How about the words I'm typing? Are they conscious? Are the letters themselves conscious? Do they exhibit prejudice between various typographies? Has there ever been a war between letters? Do they look down on Arabic, too, or are they a harmonious lot? Does personification have a consciousness?

[btwendel]

Originally Posted by Dan Koch

Mine occurred for months i don't like to looks at the clock too much but every time i did. 11:11

Does the clock work? The chance that it should be 11:11 every time you look at it is very small.

Originally Posted by Dan Koch

All I know is that every time I see 11:11 i make a wish. Ironically, the Mayans scheduled for the world to end at 11:11...

The end of the world seems like a really strange (Mayan) wish to me.

[Ebinesos]

hmm... through a little expansion and liberal interpretation
11:11
could also be
7:7::7:7

[Gaspar DiSalo]

Thanks again for all the replies. (especially the ones from the Klingon Empire)

I merely brought the subject up because I noticed Steve had mentioned it a couple times in his recent blogs. I am a newbie - never heard of this before.

I guess Steve is an idiot too. Hooray !!

The most important thing to me at the moment is allowing myself to be open to possibilities. Yes, it's just time on a clock. Yes a tree can be just a tree.

I am starting to notice that everything around us is more than the sum of its parts, so sue me!

I think I would rather believe too much as opposed to too little.

Which side will you choose?


KAPLA !!!


G

[staceyterry]

Originally Posted by Gaspar DiSalo

I think I would rather believe too much as opposed to too little.

WAY TO GO!

[does a happy dance in your honour]

[Michael Chui]

Originally Posted by Gaspar DiSalo

I think I would rather believe too much as opposed to too little.

Why?

Originally Posted by Gaspar DiSalo

Which side will you choose?

"Sides" is such an enlightened way to think about it. May you slay the infidels and rip out their beating hearts to hang upon the walls. Also, post pictures.

[Gaspar DiSalo]

Thanks again for all replies. (and unnecessary judgments)

I really do appreciate all points of view.

Michael Chui:

Why? Why not. My belief system has served me quite well until recently. I have recognized a need to revise it and for right or wrong, you gotta start somewhere. As I said, I'm kind of a newbie.

Sides? Not the best choice of words I suppose. It was not meant to be in a confrontational context. It all seems to boil down to the choices we make.

For example:

I now choose to grab an intimate quantity of dried muffin remnants, my icing anointment utensil, and hide beneath a toasty warm pile of coats at approximately 11:11 PM. to avoid perceived Guruism


G

[Michael Chui]

Originally Posted by Gaspar DiSalo

Why? Why not. My belief system has served me quite well until recently. I have recognized a need to revise it and for right or wrong, you gotta start somewhere.

Okay, I'll take the newbie bit at face value. Here's a good answer:

I can believe anything. You have no idea what I can believe. I can believe things that are true and I can believe things that aren't true and I can believe things where nobody knows if they're true or not. I can believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny and Marilyn Monroe and the Beatles and Elvis and Mister Ed. Listen–I believe that people are perfectible, that knowledge is infinite, that the world is run by secret banking cartels and is visited by aliens on a regular basis, nice ones who look like wrinkledy lemurs and bad ones who mutilate cattle and want our water and our women. I believe that the future sucks and I believe that the future rocks and I believe that one day White Buffalo Woman is going to come back and kick everyone's ass. I believe that all men are just overgrown boys with deep problems communicating and that the decline of good sex in America is coincident with the decline in drive-in movie theaters from state to state. I believe that all politicians are unprincipled crooks and I still believe that they are better than the alternative. I believe that California is going to sink into the sea when the big one comes, while Florida is going to dissolve into madness and alligators and toxic waste. I believe that antibacterial soap is destroying our resistance to dirt and disease so that one day we'll all be wiped out by the common cold like the Martians in War of The Worlds. I believe that the greatest poets of the last century were Edith Sitwell and Don Marquis, that jade is dried dragon sperm, and that thousands of years ago in a former life I was a one-armed Siberian shaman. I believe that mankind's destiny lies in the stars. I believe that candy really did taste better when I was a kid, that it's aerodynamically impossible for a bumblebee to fly, that light is a wave and a particle, that there's a cat in a box somewhere who's alive and dead at the same time (although if they don't ever open the box to feed it it'll eventually just be two different kinds of dead), and that there are stars in the universe billions of years older than the universe itself. I believe in a personal god who cares about me and worries and oversees everything I do. I believe in an impersonal god who set the universe in motion and went off to hang with her girlfriends and doesn't even know that I'm alive. I believe in an empty and godless universe of causal chaos, background noise, and sheer blind luck. I believe that anyone who says that sex is overrated just hasn't done it properly. I believe that anyone who claims to know what's going on will lie about the little things too. I believe in absolute honesty and sensible social lies too. I believe in a woman's right to choose, a baby's right to live, that while all human life is sacred there's nothing wrong with the death penalty if you can trust the legal system implicitly, and that no one but a moron would ever trust the legal system. I believe that life is a game, that life is a cruel joke, and that life is what happens when you're alive and that you might as well lie back and enjoy it.

You can even get a t-shirt.

Mull it over.

[Subscreet]

Patternicity: Finding Meaningful Patterns in Meaningless Noise: Scientific American

Here's another interesting article on this cognitive phenomenon.

Why? Why not. My belief system has served me quite well until recently. I have recognized a need to revise it and for right or wrong, you gotta start somewhere. As I said, I'm kind of a newbie.

OP, believing "too much" or "too little" is couching it in the wrong way. I have a belief just as you do, only different. There's no shortage of crazy and patently false beliefs in this world so you'd be doing yourself a disservice to adopt every one of them you come across. You've got the right idea that you've got to start somewhere, but you also need to think critically about your beliefs.

Allow me to explain why I believe as I do, OP, and I challenge you to find any fault in it. First, consider Occam's razor. Occam's razor states that "the explanation of any phenomenon should make as few assumptions as possible, eliminating those that make no difference in the observable predictions of the explanatory hypothesis or theory." What this means is that when you're trying to explain a phenomenon, the simplest explanation, or one that makes the least assumptions, is generally the best.

Let's apply this to the situation at hand. One belief posits that this phenomena is due to confirmation bias and the simple fact that you look at clocks countless times per day, perhaps without even always being aware of it. The other belief posits that a supernatural force compels you to see this pattern and that it has some greater meaning. This violates Occam's razor as it makes the unprovable assumption that such a force exists and would have a reason to compel you.

I know many members of this community have somewhat of a disdain for science and rationality, but in my experience it stems from straw men and a lack of knowledge about what science actually is. You are but one man, but through science you can gain the knowledge of the intellectual giants that came before you. Science has brought us an enormous body of knowledge through rigorous observation, experimentation, and, most importantly, peer review, and it has produced models of our world that are incredibly accurate.

There's actually quite alot of scientific literature that discusses confirmation bias, which I believe adequately explains this phenomenon without the need to invent supernatural forces. If you read the wiki on confirmation bias it cites several articles and peer-reviewed journals on confirmation bias and related cognitive phenomena that may also be at play. In conclusion, allow me to share a quote by Leo Tolstoy discussing confirmation bias which I believe accurately describes the proponents of the supernatural belief:

"I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabrics of their life".

While I have much evidence and rationality to support my belief, which allows for change in the future should the evidence support it, the people in this thread have based on their conclusions only on psuedoscience and the desire to believe something "more interesting," which really doesn't allow for any critical analysis. If you truly do have a desire to revise your beliefs, then you'd do well to base those revisions on established truths and scientific models, ignoring the dogma of this forum. Anecdotal evidence can literally be used to support any claim regardless of it's veracity, so take anything anybody says with a grain of salt unless they have legitimate evidence to prove themselves.

Confirmation bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's the wiki I mentioned, which I posted earlier. The articles and such are listed near the bottom in "Further Reading" and the references. You may be able to find online versions of the journals with a little searching. Try Google Scholar

[Brutha]

I have deleted a few posts by a troll and the responding comments to those posts. There nothing wrong with questioning beliefs. Calling other people idiots on the other hand isn't okay.

[fellowtraveler]

Originally Posted by Brutha

I have deleted a few posts by a troll and the responding comments to those posts. There nothing wrong with questioning beliefs. Calling other people idiots on the other hand isn't okay.

My apologies for helping to feed it. One forgets one's self at times.