The Warrior's Predicament

[Revolution]

*--- The Warrior's Predicament ---*

So, you know the deal - your a warrior and everyone hates you right?

You wonder why you can't get along with the average man... you wonder why after all the years of effort in self-improvement... nothing has changed - in fact you gain less respect now from others than you ever did ... has this happend to you?

If so, I want to tell you someting - the average (normal) man is a BLACK MAGICIAN. Yes, thats right you heard me correctly.

Perhaps not black magicians in the way you would normally think of it - but in a sense that is exactly what they are because they will try to force you into accepting their limited views on life and their unhealthy and unspiritual live-styles.

So, why would they do this? Here: let me explain...

Not satisfied with their own miserable lack-of-connection-to-spirit lives they can only find solace in their selfishness. But of course the average person doesn't want you to KNOW that they are selfish., they PRETEND to be loving, kind and generous. But underneath they are self-serving and shallow...

Now, when YOU come along, INSTANTLY they see the joy and light in your eyes and STRAIGHT AWAY they are jealous and ANGRY. [Why don't THEY have any happiness and what makes YOU so special is their immediate concern.]

...You must understand that the average (normal) person - (a percentage that you don't want to even imagine!!!) is coming from SEPARATION CONSCIOUSNESS. Therefore, according to his/her mindset there is not enough to go around and EVERYTHING must be competed for. Thus, they think that a happy successfull person is a bad thing for them and a person in pain and suffering is a good thing for them.

The other problem is that (especially as they get to know you) they will start to feel insecure. Because they will see how intelligent and aware you are and they will see this as a threat. [They don't want you to see through them and reveal them for their ugly and selfish natures.] So naturally they will try to cut you down.
Also, the more they see your original hobbies and interests and you refusal to accept the social norm the more infuriated (and jealous) they will become.
They are jealous because they themselves are gutless cowards - hiding in their pretty masks - unable and unwilling to do anything but follow the herd mentality. Deep down they wonder if theres something more to life but they just don't posess the courage or the know-how to act in any other way.

The more they get to know you - the more dangerous it gets --- They will try EVERY trick in the book to bring you down. They might even try to KILL you. Make no mistake about it. [Look what happened to Jesus.]

So, on a positive note what can you do?

The main point of this post is what I am about to tell you here:

YOU MUST LIVE ALONE OR WITH OTHER WARRIORS.

Yes, anything less is asking for it. The longer you let it linger - the greater the danger. So put your skates on and surround yourself with the light - if you haven't already done so.

Peace

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by Revolution

*--- The Warrior's Predicament ---*

So, you know the deal - your a warrior and everyone hates you right?

You wonder why you can't get along with the average man... you wonder why after all the years of effort in self-improvement... nothing has changed - in fact you gain less respect now from others than you ever did ... has this happend to you?

If so, I want to tell you someting - the average (normal) man is a BLACK MAGICIAN. Yes, thats right you heard me correctly.

Perhaps not black magicians in the way you would normally think of it - but in a sense that is exactly what they are because they will try to force you into accepting their limited views on life and their unhealthy and unspiritual live-styles.

So, why would they do this? Here: let me explain...

Not satisfied with their own miserable lack-of-connection-to-spirit lives they can only find solace in their selfishness. But of course the average person doesn't want you to KNOW that they are selfish., they PRETEND to be loving, kind and generous. But underneath they are self-serving and shallow...

Now, when YOU come along, INSTANTLY they see the joy and light in your eyes and STRAIGHT AWAY they are jealous and ANGRY. [Why don't THEY have any happiness and what makes YOU so special is their immediate concern.]

...You must understand that the average (normal) person - (a percentage that you don't want to even imagine!!!) is coming from SEPARATION CONSCIOUSNESS. Therefore, according to his/her mindset there is not enough to go around and EVERYTHING must be competed for. Thus, they think that a happy successfull person is a bad thing for them and a person in pain and suffering is a good thing for them.

The other problem is that (especially as they get to know you) they will start to feel insecure. Because they will see how intelligent and aware you are and they will see this as a threat. [They don't want you to see through them and reveal them for their ugly and selfish natures.] So naturally they will try to cut you down.
Also, the more they see your original hobbies and interests and you refusal to accept the social norm the more infuriated (and jealous) they will become.
They are jealous because they themselves are gutless cowards - hiding in their pretty masks - unable and unwilling to do anything but follow the herd mentality. Deep down they wonder if theres something more to life but they just don't posess the courage or the know-how to act in any other way.

The more they get to know you - the more dangerous it gets --- They will try EVERY trick in the book to bring you down. They might even try to KILL you. Make no mistake about it. [Look what happened to Jesus.]

So, on a positive note what can you do?

The main point of this post is what I am about to tell you here:

YOU MUST LIVE ALONE OR WITH OTHER WARRIORS.

Yes, anything less is asking for it. The longer you let it linger - the greater the danger. So put your skates on and surround yourself with the light - if you haven't already done so.

Peace

I don't know whether to take this seriously or not. I am supicious of someone professing to know others' dark sides so well. It may or may not be correct but one thing is for sure, it takes one to know one.

[Akashic_Librarian]

This is just Lightworker claptrap, selfishness can be good too.

[JMan]

If you live to please God, and not others or yourself, you wouldn't experience this dichotomy.

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by JMan

If you live to please God, and not others or yourself, you wouldn't experience this dichotomy.

Which God? And how do we know what pleases him / her / it / them?

[Dan.Linehan]

Revolution, I think you are exactly correct.

Thanks for the inspiring post.

[Revolution]

*-{Love}-*

Thankyou to all so much for your replies.
I truly appreciate it.

I will adress each person who responded 1 by 1:

{Magaru}

Thankyou for your reply. I could've got angry or insulted over your comment but I didn't. The truth is I appreciate your interest in this. It is with love that I reply...

I don't know whether to take this seriously or not.

Take it seriously.

I am supicious of someone professing to know others' dark sides so well.

Why? Ever heard of psychic powers? Do you have a judgement about people with psychic powers Magaru? [Do you really think that enlightened people are fools - that they don't know whats REALLY going on? If so, then what safety could they possibly have? The Master is one who has been through it all and therefore judges nobody or nothing, but he is also wise - he sees both the good and the bad - he is fully aware - aware of ALL things.]

It may or may not be correct but one thing is for sure, it takes one to know one.

So, lets suppose my orgininal hypothesis is true for the sake of argument. By your line of reasoning it seems you are saying that by simply making an observational statement about something, you somehow become that something This is interesting logic. By the way I have mostly only heard of the statement "it take one to know one" in a postive context in which case I believe it to be true. But as for recognising negative thought patterns in others that you have long since dropped many lifetimes ago - well I don't see whats wrong with that and I CERTAINLY don't see how it somehow means you are the same as that which you observe.

Another thing - when I take an honest look at my life - the things I do and the way I live - I really don't see any truth in your implication.

I'll tell you something Magaru, I once heard an interview of the Dalai Lama:

Someone asked him: "There is so much pain and suffering in the world. What can we do as individuals to make the world a better place?"

And I knew what his respose would be before reading it: Find peace within yourself.

I am sick of the "normal" worshippers. People trying to tell me that everything is sweet and fine. Well it MAY be sweet and fine for YOU. But what about all the suffering in the world - the poverty, the starvation, the torture, the wars, the deception, the exploitation, the violence, the worsening state of the (once perfect) environment ... and the general lack of mental well being (depression). How can you tell me that this doesn't matter. Where is is your heart? Where is your compassion?

Ah, but who cares right? I've got better things to worry about... I'm going to go to a nightclub, get wasted, boast about rubbish and then I am going to support violent sports, waste more time with pathetic and worthless TV programs, and eat junk food. Then I am going to get into my gas-guzzling car - without the slightest notion of guilt - go to "work" and put down everyone there. But I won't stop there... I will try my utmost to get as many friends and as much money as possible. And I will also do my best to SUCK UP to my family - you never know when or how I might need them one day. LOL... My family is my "rock". ...LOL
Oh, by the way, hi my name is Normal. I couldn't care less about the environment. Its all about Me. Me Me and more Me. Thankyou very much.

You see, Magaru, I don't aspire to be "normal". Natural, however - well that is another thing entirely.

My friends, it is common knowledge that compared to other civilizations in the universe, this planet that we call Earth is very backward and primitive - not so much in technological terms but in terms of CONSCIOUSNESS. Do you have ANY idea how beautiful and wonderfull this world could be if the base consciousness was that of enlightenment? You don't really think violence and poverty are necessary aspects of the human condition do you? Surely not...

[Revolution]

{Akashic_Librarian}

This is just Lightworker claptrap, selfishness can be good too.

Hmm. I'm really not sure where to go with this. I suppose in a sense I could agree with your statement. In the sense that you need to help yourself before you can help others etc.

Your an interesting type Akashic. Sometimes I almost feel like giving you some advice or a warning or something. But I hesitate. Because I rememeber my past and all the mistakes I made on the road. Mistakes which I (surprising) DON'T regret.

I read an absolutely brilliant quote the other day - it went somthing like this: When you reach the end of the road you realise that every step you made to get there was in error.

Blessings

[Revolution]

JMan, I don't care to find out psychically but it sounds like you maybe coming from the standpoint of a religious perspective.
Something which I have long since outgrown.

Do I live to please others? Yes and no. Lets just say serve: yes and please: no. And I'm sure you'll understand why when you consider what I've written above.

Do I live to please myself? Yes.

Do I live to please/serve God? Yes again.

You see, these are not mutually exclusive possibilities.

I have aligned my will to God's will. He speaks to me through my soul via the language of FEELINGS. And I listen and I ACT.

[Revolution]

{Dan.Linehan}

Love you man!!! Thankyou very much for your support. I see you are the ONLY ONE who stood by me.

I have seen your posts and your contribution to this forum. And I read between the lines. You are a brilliant and very intelligent man and I see what you are doing. You are helping to raise peoples awareness. [For how can you heal that which you pretend is not there.]

God Bless you.

[Maguru]

Revolution, so you are serious then?

I was suspicious at your seemingly 'deep' knowledge of others but if you say you know through psychic powers then I will believe you. If you are a master who has experienced being the same as they, then surely you would understand their predicament and not label or judge them or advocate separation from them.

You would know "they know not what they do."

You would know they are not jealous, miserable, self-serving, shallow, selfish, insecure, gutless cowards. They are being human. A master would have empathy and understanding.

[fellowtraveler]

Originally Posted by Maguru

A master would have empathy and understanding.

I don't know about that. I suppose it depends on the definition of "Master" (most of the "discussion" in here seems to depend on murky definitions, hence the noise-to-info ratio).

I know a person who definitely has certain...skills and knowledge; but his heart is as black as midnight, and he serves only himself - others are here for his use as long as he finds it convenient. But I suppose one can have empathy and understanding and still choose not to act on them in the conventional way.

[Revolution]

But I suppose one can have empathy and understanding and still choose not to act on them in the conventional way.

Yes, that is what I am advocating here.

By the way Fellow Traveller your post was most intriging. I've always been taught that only those with love and kindness can posses certain ... talents.

Thanks again Maguru, and I say to you YES! It is true that "they know not what they do" And I do have compassion - I really feel it - honestly I do. Especially after I stick up for myself I often feel something like a wave of sympathy sweep over me - because I never wanted to hurt them - but (in their ignorance they left me no choice.)

Now, Maguru, I appologise if I came accross as a bit high and mighty or a bit know-it-all or everything-I-say-is-right. And as for being enlightened? That is a question I prefer to avoid and I believe it is unwise for anyone to claim that they are Masters.

You see, my preferred approach is to speak with authority. As if I really know what I'm talking about. Weather I really do or not is up to you to decide. But I just think it sounds more interesting to hear someone make a clear cut statement rather than the usual "do you think..." "how about you guys" "I think" "I suspect" etc etc.

There is one thing I DO claim however. And that is that pretty much ALL of my posts are backed up by real life experience. I really truly believe what I say, but at the same time I certainly don't take myself too seriously or claim to be perfect or infallible or always "right".

Another thing: I have done alot with my life: I have read every book, tried every philosophy, I've tried all the new-age stuff, I've experienced many many different cultures, tried the meditation techniques, listened to the gurus, experimented with different diets, done the movements, the yoga, the mental trainings, even made up my own stuff from time to time, blah blah blah, the list goes on and I've been on the sprititual path in a very sincere way for more than a decade now.
I've encountered angels, masters, sorcerors.
But does that make me special? Am I boasting here? Am I suffering from self-importance? Of course not, everyone is special. Who cares? there is nothing to boast about.

You could say that I am something of a lone ranger. I have experienced ALOT of rejection in this life. It seems to me like you only get respect when you play by others' rules.

You would know they are not jealous, miserable, self-serving, shallow, selfish, insecure, gutless cowards. They are being human. A master would have empathy and understanding.

Well, I honesty do belive alot of people have those exact attributes. Sure they don't know any better and they are trying their best but at the end of the day their understanding is so limited that they could be described as selfish and all the rest of it.

But there is NO judgement. Not from me at least.

All I am saying is don't feel you have to be so kind as to surround your self with people who secrety don't give a damn about you. If they try to manipulate and control you (this can be subtle so watch out) then they are stifling your freedom and your growth. So, if you can't find like minded people then don't be afraid to live by your self. Trying to "heal" others who are simply not ready or willing is a fools game.

I believe everyone should have the right to arrive at the truth in their own way. Who is someone else to tell you what you should or shouldn't be doing?

[Mato Kinze]

A Warrior is humble and does not presume to "Know".

[fellowtraveler]

Originally Posted by Revolution

By the way Fellow Traveller your post was most intriging. I've always been taught that only those with love and kindness can posses certain ... talents.

At the root, we may all be standing in a pool of love - but the stinking haze of self-gratification and selfishness can hover close above it.

Originally Posted by Revolution

I believe it is unwise for anyone to claim that they are Masters.

You believe there are none, or that it is unwise for them to reveal themselves? Later on you say you've met some...or is that, umm..see below...

Originally Posted by Revolution

You see, my preferred approach is to speak with authority. As if I really know what I'm talking about. Weather I really do or not is up to you to decide. But I just think it sounds more interesting to hear someone make a clear cut statement rather than the usual "do you think..." "how about you guys" "I think" "I suspect" etc etc.

I assume that does not extend to spelling? (Sorry, don't get angry - I couldn't resist.) Interesting, yes. Attention-getting? Sure thing. Facilitating of real communication? Naw. But at least you give a heads-up: "Warning: Possible ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Ahead". I wonder how the discourse in here would change if resumes or manifestos were required...

Originally Posted by Revolution

It seems to me like you only get respect when you play by others' rules.

So who needs respect?

Originally Posted by Revolution

All I am saying is don't feel you have to be so kind as to surround your self with people who secrety don't give a damn about you. If they try to manipulate and control you (this can be subtle so watch out) then they are stifling your freedom and your growth. So, if you can't find like minded people then don't be afraid to live by your self. Trying to "heal" others who are simply not ready or willing is a fools game.

Hey, I'm with you - I'm as close to a herrnit as you can get and still walk in the world. But the above sounds like a position of weakness. You can and should be manipulating them. As long as you're doing them no real harm. I sometmes feel as you describe, but in every case it eventually feels like giving up.

For instance, if I meet a boastful, obnoxious braggart...do I show my disgust, or do I nod my head a lot, show my utter admiration for his prowess, grease him 'til he stands taller than a wedding-night erection, and get him to do what I want? I often do the latter, and laugh up my sleeve.

Originally Posted by Revolution

I believe everyone should have the right to arrive at the truth in their own way. Who is someone else to tell you what you should or shouldn't be doing?

True dat.

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by fellowtraveler

I don't know about that. I suppose it depends on the definition of "Master" (most of the "discussion" in here seems to depend on murky definitions, hence the noise-to-info ratio).

I know a person who definitely has certain...skills and knowledge; but his heart is as black as midnight, and he serves only himself - others are here for his use as long as he finds it convenient. But I suppose one can have empathy and understanding and still choose not to act on them in the conventional way.

I was referring to this definition of master as Revolution described.

Originally Posted by revolution

The Master is one who has been through it all and therefore judges nobody or nothing, but he is also wise - he sees both the good and the bad - he is fully aware - aware of ALL things.]

[Revolution]

Dear Mato,

I know you are a real warrior (unlike some people on this forum) and as such I have respect.

[I also have respect for the unaware but it is a different kind of respect. Its more about respecting their right to live and less about respecting their choices/beliefs/attitudes.]

But I would like you to consider something my friend:
Make of it what you will:

"A warrior must know first that his acts are useless, and yet he must proceed as it he didn't know it. Thats a shamans controlled folly"
~Carlos Castaneda

"The spirit manifests itself to a warrior at every turn. However this is not the entire truth. The entire truth is that the spirit releals itself to everyone with the same intensity and consistency, but only warriors are consistently attuned to such revelations."
~Carlos Castaneda

"Silent knowledge is nothing but direct contact with intent."
~Carlos Castaneda

... and perhaps most relevant is this...

"Warriors can never make a bridge to join the people of the world. But, if people desire to do so they have to make a bridge to join warriors."
~Carlos Castaneda

By the way: I don't think I EVER claimed to be INFALLIBLE in what I say. I just believe that saying statements with AUTHORITY contains more WEIGHT and produces more pause for reflection than the usual "I think" "Um" "I wonder" etc etc.

Truth is, I see alot of people [and I don't mean to boast here] asking questions on this forum that I have long since figured out. And then you get people responding (who clearly have no idea) saying things like "maybe" or "I'm not sure but" or "I read from such-and-such" or "So-and-so says ... etc."
And frankly I think all this baseless speculation is a somewhat of a drag. It makes for boring reading.

I am someone who has asked God questions all my life and I believe that "everything you ponder you will one day know".

My approach has always been the humble approach; I have asked the questions, read all the books etc, and DONE all the practices. My believe is that the only REAL approach to spirituality should be to FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF The idea is not to root your truth in books and people but to DEVELOPE YOUR OWN AWARENESS AND HENCE ARRIVE AT YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS. Then you will become one the teachers and instead of asking the universe questions you will be GIVING the universe ANSWERS.

But are these "answers" you read about truth? No, not really - the only TRUTH is the one you find in your own heart and soul.

I am humble becaue I KNOW how much I have been helped. And now, I pass it on.

But you can take me seriously or as a complete fruit-loop. Does it matter? I don't care which. What matters is (after I post my startling statements) you can connect with your INNER WISDOM and decide for yourself whether what I say resonates or not. I could be anyone - I'm an anonymous person on a forum.
I say again: I am not here to ram my opinions down peoples throats but to encourage people to find their OWN truth. And also to entertain NEW ideas and concepts and to EXPAND peoples minds.

Another thing: I don't think I've EVER read a good book or listened to a wise person give advice without them speaking and actingwith a certain certainty.

[aKarma]

O Mighty Armed Warrior!

You speak like a Prince! Your words are comforting, and your thoughts are noble. The dark forces you speak about have plagued this planet, have filthied its atmosphere. But do not hasten my friend, these forces are always conquered...they always have been, and they always will be.

Praise to you Sir, and your Revolution!

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by maguru

You would know they are not jealous, miserable, self-serving, shallow, selfish, insecure, gutless cowards. They are being human. A master would have empathy and understanding.

Originally Posted by revolution

Well, I honesty do belive alot of people have those exact attributes. Sure they don't know any better and they are trying their best but at the end of the day their understanding is so limited that they could be described as selfish and all the rest of it.

But there is NO judgement. Not from me at least.

It is ALL judgment from your perception. If I am truly honest in giving my opinion of others (as you are) then I would say that you have limited understanding of them. Unless you can walk in their shoes (which you clearly haven't) understanding and empathy is impossible.

You see, my preferred approach is to speak with authority. As if I really know what I'm talking about. Weather I really do or not is up to you to decide.

I don't wish to hurt your feelings but again I will be honest. I think you don't know what you are talking about. However, I do understand where you are because I have been there too. Perhaps not with quite so many adjectives but still, I saw others in a bad light and I was WRONG!

I was wrong because I did not understand others behaviour. I had to understand my own first and this is what I am endevouring to show you. Your behaviour is the only one that counts and the only one you have total control of.

If you are not aware of the effect of your behaviour or the consequences of your judgment then yes, they might even kill you, just look at Jesus.

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by aKarma

O Mighty Armed Warrior!

You speak like a Prince! Your words are comforting, and your thoughts are noble. The dark forces you speak about have plagued this planet, have filthied its atmosphere. But do not hasten my friend, these forces are always conquered...they always have been, and they always will be.

Praise to you Sir, and your Revolution!

What planet do you live on? The dark forces have never been conquered. The dark forces are stronger than ever, just appearing in a differrent guise. Yours and revolutions' perhaps?

[aKarma]

Originally Posted by Maguru

What planet do you live on? The dark forces have never been conquered. The dark forces are stronger than ever, just appearing in a differrent guise. Yours and revolutions' perhaps?

O you Torch of Ignorance!

We have crossed paths before, but it appears that the fetters in your mind are too tightly established. Reason has veiled your mind. You fail to see beyond your rational thought. You fail to feel.

We are here to help you, to free you from your material bondage. You do not realize that you have been chained to matter. You have fallen from the ethereal heavens into the abyss of darkness. You are unaware of your true eternal nature - you are only aware of your books, and your science, and your human laws.

But fear not, for these veils will be lifted when the Time is Right! You will be forgiven by the All Merciful, the High and Divine, the True Self!

[Revolution]

Fellow traveler,

You believe there are none, or that it is unwise for them to reveal themselves? Later on you say you've met some...or is that, umm..see below...

I believe there are Masters. But I also believe there are many false masters that abound. I believe it is very easy to speak as if you really have enlightenment figured out - and many people (understandably) get fooled/deceived by this sort of thing. Often though, these self-proclaimed "Grand Masters" are just trying to sell you a product.

For me a Master is not necessarily someone who becomes a "guru" or "teacher" as such - but someone who (when you closely examine them) lives for others In my opinion, they don't always necessarily have to speak or preach often about God/love/truth/spirituality. Instead they are God. - God walking. They teach by example - being authentic and making their decisions based on the guidance of Spirit. That is love.

I assume that does not extend to spelling? (Sorry, don't get angry - I couldn't resist.) Interesting, yes. Attention-getting? Sure thing. Facilitating of real communication? Naw. But at least you give a heads-up: "Warning: Possible ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Ahead". I wonder how the discourse in here would change if resumes or manifestos were required...

Lol: okay fair game: traveller/traveler, wheather,whether. He He He, yes, I think it strains credibility when bad spelling mistakes are present. I've seen others here on this forum make some SHOCKING spelling mistakes and it often makes me wonder - I must be honest. Lol, but I rarely point it out because I know how pissed of it can make people!!! (The usual comeback is "What? Instead of reading my point/argument you have resorted to childish point scoring - shame on thou!!!")
No, but don't worry I'm not like that!!!

But what you say here is quite deep. I really had to give this due consideration: I say that I don't think resumes or manifestos are required: I prefer people to TRULY walk the path and then state their conclusions for us all to reflect upon. And besides what does claiming 15 years of meditation really prove anyway - it could mean anything.

[Is there any harm in reading BS? No, sometimes it can be quite inspiring because you see your past - and you realise how far you've come.] (I remember once - years ago - I watched a few of those "hour of power" programs on the telly. You know the ones - the 3am Bible-bashing seminars.) Ah, its fantastic - what a laugh!!!

So who needs respect?

"Need" is a tricky word here. Lets just say that if you choose to live with h8ers who have zero respect - then all I can say is GOOD LUCK!!! I suppose when I live alone and on my own terms I wont really need anyones respect. It doesn't really matter to me. But it would be nice though.

Hey, I'm with you - I'm as close to a herrnit as you can get and still walk in the world. But the above sounds like a position of weakness. You can and should be manipulating them. As long as you're doing them no real harm. I sometmes feel as you describe, but in every case it eventually feels like giving up.

For instance, if I meet a boastful, obnoxious braggart...do I show my disgust, or do I nod my head a lot, show my utter admiration for his prowess, grease him 'til he stands taller than a wedding-night erection, and get him to do what I want? I often do the latter, and laugh up my sleeve.

Hey, I'm with you - I'm as close to a herrnit as you can get and still walk in the world.

Well well well, surprise suprise!!! {love}

But the above sounds like a position of weakness. You can and should be manipulating them. As long as you're doing them no real harm. I sometmes feel as you describe, but in every case it eventually feels like giving up.

For instance, if I meet a boastful, obnoxious braggart...do I show my disgust, or do I nod my head a lot, show my utter admiration for his prowess, grease him 'til he stands taller than a wedding-night erection, and get him to do what I want? I often do the latter, and laugh up my sleeve.

Funny. For some reason I often do the same myself. But only in small doses though. You cannot establish a real and true friendship with such a person (in my opinion) - it just won't work. For as long as you are true, honest and sincere they will surely start to doubt you and they will surely soon realise that they have nothing in common with you.

Perhaps the most dangerous people out there are the ones that scoff at inner work and constantly tell/force you to "get out there" and "start being normal", and accuse you of being "antisocial" [When really all they are hoping to do is drag you into their sick and meaningless lifestle.] - and for what? Solidarity?

God bless you man. - and keep it up!!!!!

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by aKarma

O you Torch of Ignorance!

We have crossed paths before, but it appears that the fetters in your mind are too tightly established. Reason has veiled your mind. You fail to see beyond your rational thought. You fail to feel.

We are here to help you, to free you from your material bondage. You do not realize that you have been chained to matter. You have fallen from the ethereal heavens into the abyss of darkness. You are unaware of your true eternal nature - you are only aware of your books, and your science, and your human laws.

But fear not, for these veils will be lifted when the Time is Right! You will be forgiven by the All Merciful, the High and Divine, the True Self!

Yes we have crossed paths and you still avoid the issues and return to analysing me. I will reply in kind. Your darkness is veiled in believing your perceptions of others are the truth when they are merely your opinions based on your perceptions of how you have experienced life.

Having one's head in the clouds is no different to it being buried in the sand. Try coming down to earth for a while. Embrace your humanity for that is who we are.

If you were who you think you are you would know the truth of humanity and understand that there is no need for forgiveness because the understanding of, "There, but for the grace of god, go I" requires none.

Words are cheap, my friend. Show me your wisdom. Show me your powers.

[Mato Kinze]

Originally Posted by Revolution

I am humble becaue I KNOW how much I have been helped. And now, I pass it on.

A Warrior is humble and does not presume to "KNOW" anything. You have an understanding of Castaneda's writings. That's a good start. His students, don Miguel Ruiz and my own teacher are Warriors also and I think would not disagree with some of your statements. However, a fist inside a velvet glove is still a fist nonetheless. And those who batter others with Truth are still assailants.

Doska,
Mato

[MartialDev]

Originally Posted by Revolution

The other problem is that (especially as they get to know you) they will start to feel insecure.

Deep down they wonder if theres something more to life but they just don't posess the courage or the know-how to act in any other way.

I want to tell you someting - the average (normal) man is a BLACK MAGICIAN. Yes, thats right you heard me correctly.

...You must understand that the average (normal) person - (a percentage that you don't want to even imagine!!!) is coming from SEPARATION CONSCIOUSNESS.

YOU MUST LIVE ALONE OR WITH OTHER WARRIORS.

So, you know the deal - your a warrior and everyone hates you right?

Peace

I edited that for you.

[Angela]

A warrior seeks to act rather than talk.

We talk to ourselves incessantly about our world. In fact we maintain our world with our internal talk. And whenever we finish talking to ourselves about ourselves and our world, the world is always as it should be. We renew it, we rekindle it with life, we uphold it with our internal talk. Not only that, but we also choose our paths as we talk to ourselves. Thus we repeat the same choices over and over until the day we die, because we keep on repeating the same internal talk over and over until the day we die. A warrior is aware of this and strives to stop his internal talk.

You take yourself too seriously! You are too damn important in your own mind. That must be changed!

-- Carlos Castaneda

I love reading his stuff!

[fellowtraveler]

Originally Posted by Maguru

Yes we (note: you and aKarma) have crossed paths and you still avoid the issues and return to analysing me. .

It's all part of his Kosmic Joke routine, you see. Looking for a special on Comedy Central soon, no doubt.

Originally Posted by Maguru

Words are cheap, my friend (aKarma). Show me your wisdom. Show me your powers.

Fat chance...

[Revolution]

So have you read the conversations with God books? In one of the books (can't remember which one) it says something like "so be ready kind soul - for you will be ridiculed, persecuted, spat upon, isolated... and finally crucified - all for chosing your most holy cause - the realization of self"

Okay, that may not be an exact transcription but it goes something along those lines.

I read that years ago.

Then I got into Castaneda's teachings: he taught me about "flyers" riding on the wind - polluting peoples minds. I started to wonder if maybe the battle was against MORE than just my own mind - maybe the mind of others as well.

Add on top of that a somewhat difficult time throughout school years (both school and home). Sure some people may have had it worse than me - but things were pretty rough at times.
- Like really really nasty people at school and then coming home to verbal/emotional abuse. - wasn't fun. + being a highly intelligent and innovative individual I've been somewhat AMAZED at how (my Dad in particular) could get offended by some of my (quite reasonable) lifestyle choices. But I'll spare you the details.

So, understandably it was perhaps easier for me than others to ACCEPT THE IDEAS PRESENTED IN THESE BOOKS AS TRUTH. I see now how over the last few years in my life in particular I have actually made my life a certain way because of what I believed to be true.

That is why it can be so dangerous to read a book (any book) and assign it divine properties. I REALLY took the CWG (Neale Donald Walsh) books way too seriously. I actually believed he was having a conversation with God. Same with the Castaneda books.

What do I believe now? I believe that there is much wisdom in the CWG series - however I disagree with some of the statements and I don't regard it as infallable truth as such anymore.
- As for Castaneda, I sincerely believe he made it all (if not most of it up) and after really giving the teaching a fair chance I have concluded that
1. that there was never any Jon Juan.
2. There is no such thing as the assemblage point and
3. The "flyers" are just an eggageration of certain astral phenomena. I could say alot more on this topic but I'll save it for another day.

So why did I post "The Warriors Predicament" ? That was a culmination of all my frustrations with life lately and a product of all the (perhaps not so resourceful) thoughts I have had over the years.

I'm sorry if some of you may feel a little hurt that I have seemingly all of a sudden "backed out" - but after putting all this nonsense in writing over the internet it has suddenly become clear how fallacious it all is.

I had a dream the other night - I asked God (my God) for help in the dreamstate before going to sleep. Just whatever would be for my greatest spiritual benefit...
He took me to Hell.
I wondered about it and He assured me: "oh its been here all along"
... a steep mine shaft - yellow sand-like walls - very very deep - really felt like going down a long way - kinda scary -
- surprisingly well lit...
I got to the bottom and I was prepared for the worst. - I expected to see the most ugly creatures imaginable - monsters with horns - you know the sort you get in computer games and the like - and I was all prepared for battle...
But to my surprise all I saw were a bunch of fat but very normal looking people - people that have probably eaten too much [junk food] - [I was going to name a particular resaurant but you get the gist].
And there I was fighting them - but they barely even noticed I was there!!! They were not hostile at all. But I kept fighting them and slashing them apart and then after a while it occured to me - why am I doing this - why am I fighting them?

[Revolution]

So, while I may not want to take back ALL of what I've written in the last few posts - I feel that (at least some of it) was too extreme - and also the attitude was perhaps slightly to condescending to my children - people of the Earth.

[Angela]

What are you going to do now?