My 3 y/o has been taken. Pls pray for me.

[angelairene]

Yesterday the police came to my door and said someone found my son on the hwy. about 4 houses down from here. I thought he was watching tv downstairs.
DFCS came and interogated me and I guess they judged me an unfit mother cuz they took him away.
I am disabled. I'm 44. He is my only son. He is my life. I have raised him to be very independant. I am a good mother. I use cloth diapers. I avoid plastics. I recycle. We play outside for hours everyday. We eat organic. I make my own yogurt. I dont beleive in vaccinations.
As far as DFCS (dept of family and children svc) is concerned not vaccinating is medical negligence, altho they cant legally say so.
They tried to take him before when I refused to give him a catscan because his head was abnormally large. I knew there was nothing wrong with him. They forced me, saying, if I didnt they would take him away. The catscan revealed nothing. But this gave me a past history with them.
Because of the holiday, we wont have a hearing until Tuesday.
I am lost without him. I need to stay strong and productive this weekend. I could use your prayers and good intentions.
Please pray for my son and me. May we be reunited on Tuesday.

We need to leave Georgia as soon as possible. I would like to return to my homeland of Canada. Is there anyone willing to give us a head start?

Thanks for your prayers.

Angela

[Barcs]

That seems kind of harsh, taking him away for a one time incident. Fight to get him back. I work for a similar agency and I definitely understand how hard that can be.

All the best.

[angelairene]

He used to run away. I thought I was going to lose my mind. and then he just stopped. This was about 6-8 months ago. I made the mistake of telling dfcs this. Because of that, they took him away.

[fellowtraveler]

I'll be thinking of you, ma'am. Maybe this is something that had to happen to drive home a point: do what they want as long as you are in their territory. If they force you to do things they have no right to, go to the nearest ACLU or legal aid office.

Use the weekend to make plans on how you are going to show them that you will abide by their standards. Then, get the heck out of there as soon as you legally can. Canada to Georgia - what a culture shock...

Stuff happens. A neighbor of mine had their little girl do the same thing - the wife was hanging laundry and the kid decided to take a hike. They had the search parties, hounds and helicopters out in force. I found her sitting on a log 100 yards behind my house. There was no thought of holding the mother responsible - she looked and acted the way "normal" society wants her to, so they let it slide.

I have no way to help you directly, but I will do my best to send intentions your way that things work out best for your child. Hopefully that will mean he comes back to you. Stay as positive as possible, remain calm, and play the system.

[NightSpirit]

God is already on your side because he wasn't killed in traffic or kidnapped. Thank God he is alive.

Family services may be going overboard but they are trying to protect your son and keep him safe. Most parents have lost their kids, even if it's just for a moment at the store. My own daughter was an adventurer like your son and when she was 4, we had to call out the volunteers to search the woods and find her. She had been on the swing and when my stepbrother came in for just enough time for a glass of water, she dashed into the woods and wouldn't answer our calls and kept going deeper.

Going shopping with her was hell on earth. She tells us now, how at 2 years old, she was so bored with looking at clothes that she would hide under the racks until we branched out to find her and then go where she wanted to go. We would find her in the toy store at the other end of the mall.

Once around 3 years old she got up before daylight and put on her hat and coat and drug a chair over to unlock the chain and left. We were just about to call the sheriff when a neighbor saw my husband out looking like he had lost something. We had just moved there the day before and the neighbor didn't know her but had found her his driveway surrounded by a pack of dogs before 6 AM.

At 8 and old enough to know better, I hired a babysitter to watch her and she would sneak out the window and then both of us would look for her. She's still mad at me about the switching I gave her when we found her hours later the last time she did it. So I understand what you are going through and what you might have in store if he keeps doing this. DSS never heard about any of this but I would have been where you are if they had.

Your job is to convince the court not that DSS are evil but that his safety is all that matters to you also. Be ready to show the what you have learned by this and about what you have done to be sure this doesn't happen again, like moving his TV upstairs, or placing "really" childproof locks on the doors, like double key deadbolts and/or some kind of alarm. At the hearing, the judge will be looking for personal responsibility and action.

Again, don't make the case seem like something they are doing to you personally but be ready with an explanation of what you based those decisions on if they bring up the medical stuff. Of course you may be emotional because you love your son but make the battle about him and his health and safety. The cloth diapers and the recycling says you care about the planet but is not impressive as a motherly trait to address this problem.

As you know, the less free thought explaining you try to do in legal cases, the better. By them finding him so far away before you knew he was gone and with you telling them you knew he had those tendencies but still left him alone in an unsecured place might look to them like you are not checking on him often enough or that you are blaming him. I'm not judging; just trying to get you to see it from their side so you can fight it better.

Same thing happened near me months ago and each parent thought the other one had him. DSS took that boy also but I don't know the outcome. I have heard of people that burn and hurt their kids and they get them back so surely you will get your son back if this is the worst of it. But once child services knew about it they have a legal obligation to act or they'll be a guilty party too if it happened again and they had done nothing. And I am not a lawyer but seems to me it might be best to keep your plans to move under your hat until this is cleared up and the case is closed.

Do you have access to a lawyer or do you have any friends that know what a good mother you are to go to court with you....a clergyman, daycare teacher, nurse? Someone like that with no history with child service problems. Get a notarized statement if they can't come and take pictures of the way you have reinforced the doors and windows, not that you will be leaving him alone but as a back-up if you have to leave the room or if he wakes up from a nap and tries to leave while you are cooking or something like that. Go along with whatever classes or follow-up they suggest because you have nothing to hide and want to be the best mother you can.

I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Let us know how it goes.

[angelairene]

Thank you for your kind words and encouragement. I will take your advise and not mention my plans to move.
I dont want to move, but the control they have scares me. and since I am a "new age" thinker, I think that they will target me in the future.
I am from Canada, and altho I left there when I was 3, I have spent 5 years in Fairbanks, Alaska. I enjoy the cold weather. Cant tolerate the heat here.
and as a "new age" thinker, my immediate family does not respect me much. I feel that this is not a healthy environment for my son when there is such a lack of respect for me and what I value. Already, he is confused. One set of rules upstairs and another downstairs.
I think I will get a tv for upstairs.
thanks again for your support
Angela

[Barcs]

^It definitely sounds like it can be a stressful environment to raise a child in. Maybe this is a sign that's it's time for a change of scenery? Good luck! I hope it works out. Keep us informed of what happens.

[Whyspr]

Are you a legal resident of US? Canada?

If your just visiting the states then you might try to goto your rep and see what they can do for you.

Child services looks for trends of what they determine is lower than needed partental supervision. Right now, they are going to try to determine if your disability plays a role in the current state of your house. So be ready to argue your side of it.

Also, how do you discipline your child when this occurs? Becareful how you answer because you would not believe the things they call child abuse.

[angelairene]

Originally Posted by Whyspr

Are you a legal resident of US? Canada?

If your just visiting the states then you might try to goto your rep and see what they can do for you.

Child services looks for trends of what they determine is lower than needed partental supervision. Right now, they are going to try to determine if your disability plays a role in the current state of your house. So be ready to argue your side of it.

Also, how do you discipline your child when this occurs? Becareful how you answer because you would not believe the things they call child abuse.

I legally reside in the US.
Thanks for the tip.
I rarely spank him. For something like this I would have a serious talk and restrict his freedom for a few days, so I could keep an eye on him.

sometimes I'm in the garden and he disappears around the back of the house for say 10 minutes. would that be consideered neglect? What amount of time is acceptable for him to be out of my sight? do you know?
He never leaves the property when I'm outside, not even sneaking out the back. Does that count for anything?

[angelairene]

Had the hearing today. The judge thought the whole thing was excessive. DFCS had a long list of follow up requirements and the judge said I didnt have to do any of it.
George will be home by 3 today.
Thanks for all your support and advice.
Angie

[fellowtraveler]

Originally Posted by angelairene

Had the hearing today. The judge thought the whole thing was excessive. DFCS had a long list of follow up requirements and the judge said I didnt have to do any of it.
George will be home by 3 today.
Thanks for all your support and advice.
Angie

Cool. They will probably keep an eye on you, tho. Be mindful and choose your steps with care, and trust that you and your son will be taken care of, if you follow your heart.

[angelairene]

Yea, I think its best if we find a place to move. I cant live like this with them over my shoulder threatening to take him away for the slightest thing.
Thanks for you concern.
Angie

[Shorebird]

Hi Angela,

The problem is solved...Thats great.

[NightSpirit]

That is wonderful news and thank God for the answered prayer.

I see some patterns in your thinking and a cycle of fear in what you have posted here that may be playing a part in manifesting all these events in your life. My concern is if you don't break these cycles this stuff will follow you wherever you move. I would like to share it with you but not if you don't want to hear it.

Again, thanks for the update.

[Dan.Linehan]

Great news Angie! Congrats!

[angelairene]

Originally Posted by NightSpirit

That is wonderful news and thank God for the answered prayer.

I see some patterns in your thinking and a cycle of fear in what you have posted here that may be playing a part in manifesting all these events in your life. My concern is if you don't break these cycles this stuff will follow you wherever you move. I would like to share it with you but not if you don't want to hear it.

Again, thanks for the update.

It's so hard to see your own patterns. I would really appreciate your thoughts.
Angie

[NightSpirit]

Things happen for a reason and there is usually a lesson in everything that is not always the obvious one of 'watch your son' because he is getting more curious. There seems to be a cycle of fear concerning your beliefs and a feeling that people are out to get you because of them. I am not saying they aren't but that letting those feelings grow will attract more events in confirmation of those thoughts and feelings.

I don't know if you believe our thoughts play any part in shaping our futures. But by allowing what other people think to create that feeling of fear and defensiveness about your beliefs within you, then you may be attracting these life events and more opportunities for your beliefs to be questioned and defended. When you allow yourself to create an enemy, see something as your enemy or go on the defensive about something, then battles will ensue.

You can start to break the cycle with your thoughts and practice feeling love and acceptance for yourself. If you are met with criticism, let it roll off you. Don't meet it with any resistance or get into any battles trying to prove your beliefs are better. Try not to think of this new way you have chosen as being better than or in competition with someone else's beliefs or lifestyle. By staying in this non-judge mental state, you will be giving that person the love and acceptance you want to come back to you.

Concentrate your thoughts on knowing that you are a good mother and let that knowledge become something that is part of you, something that just is. Try not to hold court in your own head over this or seek evidence of it. If events or comments or even thoughts come in opposition to what you know is true, don't engage them or give them any reason to stick around.

I would recommend that you do this now, where you are and with these same people. If you move from there out of fear, then that will become more evidence of how far you have had to go to defend your beliefs.

This may be part of a bigger pattern that followed you from somewhere else. Did you have a fear like this, that you were going to lose your son or that someone may take him from you before this? Or have you developed a pattern of allowing or possibly unconsciously seeking negative evidence or events to move you, literally move you?

I am no guru and I don't usually do something like this. But the oddity of the way things have happened, that DFCS was out of the picture and were minding their own business and this event drew them back into your life. And then for them to take these extreme measures? That you have had all these run-ins and this doubting about you and your abilities as a mother follow you and cause you to doubt yourself gives reason to look deeper for a spiritual root....and spiritual solution.

And do you trust everyone that your son is spending time alone with? Just want to be sure because those words of 'watch your son' seemed to pop out at me and I don't know why. Don't worry if it means nothing to you because I have my own fears about adults and children from my past. And I saw something like this unfold in another situation where DFCS kept getting involved for minor stuff and later it was found by accident that some bad stuff was going on undetected. It was like the universe or God had been sending them help from all over and they finally got out . So all of my thought on this last part may be coming from my own fear and ignore it if it means nothing to you.

My intent was to help, not to criticize. I hope it everything goes well for you and just as you imagine it should.

[angelairene]

Thanks for that.
DFCS was the furthest thing from my mind before all this happened. What was going through my mind was the fact that the van, a gift from my step father was going to be taken from me because I had mentioned to my mother that it was not an environmentally friendly vehicle, and I couldn't afford to drive it. I was going to trade it in. I shouldnt have mentioned it because I knew it would be seen as ingratidude. which it was, i suppose. I just couldnt stop myself from feeling that he knew his gift was inappropriate, knowing I am such an environmentalist. and he was just waiting for the day that I would say something, so he could take it back.

I understand the theory of law of attraction. I have seen and read lots on the subject. but putting that theory into action is harder than it seems.
I completely agree with you that moving under the premise that I have to make George safe is only going to drag the problems with me.

Raising a child is not as easy as I was imagining. I wanted so much for him. I envisioned him never watching tv; me homeschooling him; him eating organic healthy foods, etc. but I am afraid I have fallen short of my expectations.
The only time he eats vegetables is when he asks for a cookie, I make him eat some carrots or frozen peas. We dont have meals together, in fact I have given up trying. He spends most of his day watching tv, and I feel like such a failure. He screams and demands things and I just give into him like a coward.
After this whole incident, I feel he doesnt respect me anymore. He's l;ike a little tyrant. and I dont know what to do except move him to a more holistic environment.
But i realize now that is the main reason I want to move, not to get away from DFCS. and its not just for him , but for me.
I want to live in a community where everyone is health conscious and actually lives the principle of the law of attraction.
I feel like an alien living here, where my beliefs all get swept under the rug. I feel like I am swept under the rug. I know my son doesnt respect me because I dont respect myself. It hard when my family acts like that is the only appropriate way for me to feel.

What you said about me not feeling that my beliefs are better than anyone elses has been on my mind for decades. and I think the result is this lack of respect I have for myself.
I just want to get out of here. It is so hard to repair relationships you've had for a lifetime.
I have been surrounded by people who object my very presence. That is my problem. And it scares me to know, really know, that moving isnt going to change what the universe puts in front of me.
i want so much more out of life and for my son. I feel stuck.
If you have any suggestions, other than the obvious one "stop feeling that way" I would love to hear it.
I appreciate you concern; your kindness to this stranger. You have done so much for me, just by bringing this up
Thank you
Angie

[angelairene]

in learning to get along and undo the damage I have done in giving the impression that I think I am better or more enlightened, even tho that was never my intention. I have lost myself. I have buried my beliefs for the sake of getting along. My true nature, as with everyone, is an enlightened being. in my family, from the very beginning, letting my true light shine, puts everyone in my shadow, and they turn away from me; they even hate me for it.
I have been baffled by this my whole life. I was born with keen intuition and hated for it. I have been searching for a safe haven for decades, only to be returned here again and again by forces it seemed were beyond my control. I have been returned to the source of my problems again and again. and always I leave here thinking that the answer is not to surround myself with this problem. But of course it follows me and again I am reminded that I must face my fears and engage them. But no one wants me to engage them. Just showing up riles their hate for me.
Any suggestions?

[Honeywith4bees]

Hi Angie~

I'm so glad that you and your son have been reunited. That must feel so good. It's interesting how you say that you keep being driven back to face your problems. I guess that that is why we are here to begin with, to face and then overcome, our obstacles.
I don't know if this is possible for you but here where I live there is a HUGE home school network. Lots of like minded families with kids of all ages doing all kinds of different stuff as community. Could you use the internet to find some groups near you that you could join? I have friends that were all in La Leche League together that then formed playgroups as their kids got older. That might be another resource for you. I think that you might really benefit from getting out with George more and getting active with a group like this, it could help you feel more supported.

Good luck!

[angelairene]

Thanks Honey,

I did some research and found a couple of homeschool support groups for my area. Thanks for the tip. I dont know why I never thought of it before.

[angelairene]

Thank you Night Spirit,

as you can probably imagine, I worked myself into a miserable state after venting all that.
It got so bad that I didnt want to be around myself. Then it dawned on me. Oh! This is what I dont want. I see that clearly now.
And I slowly worked myself into a satisfying mood thinking about how great it is to know that, so all I have to do, is think about what I do want.
Dont take this the wrong way ( I know you wont) but you dragged me right down to the bottom; to the pit of dispair; right where I needed to be in order to make the changes that needed to happen.
I didnt know it, but I have been angry since this whole thing happened. I didnt see it under all the panic and worry. Now that the panic is gone, what;s left was this slow burning anger and resentment. and I thought, I've got my defenses in high gear, because I think the world is out to get me. (what you said was right on).
So thank you for caring enough to encourage me to say what was on my mind. I feel so much lighter and freer.
Angie

[angelairene]

I suppose I wont wait for a reply any longer. I've had this happen before. I feel so supported one minute, then as soon as I figure things out for myself, no one wants anything to do with me.
This is a repeating pattern in my life.
Why is it that I have to be needy and stupid to have friends. When I am confident and feeling connected to source, people scatter so fast my head spins.
I feel I have to down play who I am before people will like me. and I know that aint right. I feel like my childhood gets played over and over again, with them turning their backs on me. Me singing at the top of my voice and everyone in the house acting like I wasnt even there.
I suppose I should start another thread, since this is no where near what the title says. But I am rather disheartened.

[NightSpirit]

Have you tried any of the energy therapies? They are free and and available online. EFT Provides Impressive Health and Emotional Freedom--New Discovery Often Works Where Nothing Else or Welcome to TATLife - the home of Tapas Fleming and the Tapas Acupressure Technique

Doing either of these will help you let go of the past and quell some of those negative emotions.

And here is a link to a free meditation MP3 to help you focus on what you do want.

Free Download: Manifestation Meditation MP3

Any of this will help bring about a more positive state of mind and keep you from feeling overwhelmed.

Also, as a Christian, I have found peace comes with forgiveness, especially of yourself, as well as others. Do you have a good church? Unity church may be a place you may feel comfortable. A lot of churches have mom's day out programs and women's meetings with childcare available. Might be good for you son to socialize him a little more.

And I don't know what your financial situation is but you can apply for a sponsored membership at the YMCA if your finances are low. They usually have childcare for some of their classes.

All of us feel overwhelmed by our kids at times and I know how hard it is to raise a child with someone second guessing you. Kids are little geniuses at detecting dissention in adults and exploiting it. I know your mother may offer to keep him if you go out but I would recommend that you take him other places as often as possible, where people respect your authority as his mother, even if it's just to the library.

Will you have a support system or help with child care where you plan to move? You and your child's safety is above any other consideration. Maybe instead of making a big move across the country you could just start getting 'out of there' in little blocks of time. You may still experience negativity at home but maybe it won't be the dominate influence in your life.

These are just practical things that may help but I will think about you and if anything else comes to mind I will let you know.

[fellowtraveler]

Originally Posted by angelairene

I suppose I wont wait for a reply any longer. I've had this happen before. I feel so supported one minute, then as soon as I figure things out for myself, no one wants anything to do with me.
This is a repeating pattern in my life.
Why is it that I have to be needy and stupid to have friends. When I am confident and feeling connected to source, people scatter so fast my head spins.
I feel I have to down play who I am before people will like me. and I know that aint right. I feel like my childhood gets played over and over again, with them turning their backs on me. Me singing at the top of my voice and everyone in the house acting like I wasnt even there.
I suppose I should start another thread, since this is no where near what the title says. But I am rather disheartened.

Go ahead and start another thread, maybe you'll get more feedback. But as in a lot of discussions and requests for help in here, sometime we get to a place where we just don't want to hear it; no answer or suggestion will satisfy us. Yup, you heard it a thousand times but it's true: ain't nobody going to solve it but you.

You might want to stop rolling that old tape in your head. If you can't, then maybe you need to lay a tiny bit of the responsibility on somebody else and try some cognitive therapy. Most places, even in Georgia, have access to services for peeps who can't afford it. Nothing in here will replace face-to-face. At least it would be someone to talk to, if you can get rid of the notion that they're judging you.

Sometimes bad feelings come from thinking we're great but nobody recognizes it, or they hate us for it. Fact is, most people couldn't care less one way or another about you, they gots their own stuff to deal with.

Yesterday I visited my self 15-20 years from now (surprsingly still alive!). He's a cool guy. Try Andrea Hess's free Finding Your Purpose mp3. It made me cry, and I'm no girlie-man.

[angelairene]

Thanks for the advise.
I've looked into EFT and have lots of material. I've practiced it in a group and find it works really well. Perhaps I will devote more time to it, now that I am clear on what I dont want.
I will work on these problems this time, instead of patting myself on the back so quick on simply acknowleding it.

Theoretically, I know it to be true that most people are living their own movie and couldnt care less about about me. We live in a grand illusion, dont we?

My EFT mantra will be "even tho I feel the world is out to silence me, I love, respect and approve of myself."
It might be interesting to note that JFK was shot when I was 6 months envetro (in my Mom's womb)
I have always had paranoias that if you stick out your hand, it will get cut off. That no good deed goes unpunished.

Thanks for the advise. If I have more to get off my chest, I will start a new thread.
Thanks for listening and caring.
Angie

[Lauxa]

Originally Posted by angelairene

Raising a child is not as easy as I was imagining. I wanted so much for him. I envisioned him never watching tv; me homeschooling him; him eating organic healthy foods, etc. but I am afraid I have fallen short of my expectations.
The only time he eats vegetables is when he asks for a cookie, I make him eat some carrots or frozen peas. We dont have meals together, in fact I have given up trying. He spends most of his day watching tv, and I feel like such a failure. He screams and demands things and I just give into him like a coward.

Angie, I hear you on this one! I have 4 and 2 year old girls, and it's just not easy!

First off, all they want to do is watch TV and play computer games. I have restricted TV/computer time to be from 2-4 in the afternoon and after 8pm after they have their baths and brush their teeth, but that is still 4 hours a day... NOT what I had envisioned.

But then, my husband and I are both programmers and on the computers all day so I don't know what I should have expected. One thing to help me cope with this situation is to try to encourage them to play or watch educational stuff. For instance, the Leapfrog videos and Super Why for reading, or some Dora the Explorer dubbed in Spanish for exposure to a second language. Or starfall phonics on the computer (Learn to Read at Starfall - teaching comprehension and phonics), although they still prefer to play at nickjr.com. I need to find some edutainment for preschool-level math. Another thing I only sometimes do but would like to increase is to have the girls pick up their toys before they can watch TV or play computer games. This is still a bit of a battle, but they are starting to learn that when I say it's time for them to clean up I will follow through and make them do it.

And as for food? They like pizza and chicken nuggets and maccarroni and cheese and yogurt and not much else it seems. I can usually get them to eat fruit, but forget vegetables! My MIL has a theory that little kids don't really need to eat vegetables, otherwise why would they all resist so much? I just focus on me eating enough veggies and occasionally they will request a couple of bites of whatever I am eating, the 2-year-old more than the 4-year-old (she used to eat slightly more veggies, when she was 2). My 2-year-old likes green smoothies.

Okay, don't shoot me, but do you feel like you are an attentive mother and that you really pay attention to your son? Because of what you said about being ignored as a child, I am wondering if you are repeating that same pattern. I recently realized that I am repeating that pattern to an extent... and I hadn't really registered that my mother "neglected" me until ALG posted something about the enneagram and how type 5 (which I am) stems from not getting the attention you need as a child and therefore not trusting relationships.

Hang in there! I enjoyed reading more about your life and challenges, I think we have a lot in common.

[angelairene]

Hello Lauxa,
we have spoken before, yes?
Thank you for bringing that up about being ignored. It never occured to me. My first response was no, I spend lots of time with him. but then I am aware that he is talking to me as I am thinkiing this and totally ignoring him.
Its like a little timer goes off in him and he has to check in with me. I respond to what ever he is talking about and then I'm good for another few minutes.
I pride myself on being very conscientious (even tho I cant spell it). George and I, as with most parent/child, have a psychic connection. I am aware of it occationally, but I think he is tuned in most of the time as if he knows what I am thinking and doing, even when he's no where around.
The thing he did last week, running down to the hwy to find grampa, because I just kept playcating him and wouldnt take his very serious concern seriously, reminds me of the things I used to do. No one would ever listen to me; to what I thought was important.
After that I vowed to always take him seriously.
Yesterday, the neighbor had given him a drink, but didnt tell anyone. I kept telling him to give it back and boy did he pitch a fit. As he was on his way to being put in his room, the boy comes up and confesses that he gave it to him. I felt so bad, but we were both very grateful when we learned he had been right to protest.
I am being called

[angelairene]

one of the problems I face is his diet. He wont eat anything. not mac and cheese, no pb, no jelly, Easier to say what he will eat. spegetti no sauce, raisen toast, frozen peas, baby carrots, crackers and cereal. I guess I should be grateful that he eats p & c, but its only because he wants something sweet.
I used to love to cook. I just dont cook now. Its so frustrating that he wont eat anything. I have gone from eating super healthy when pregnant (pretty healthy before that) to eating convienence dinners.
So i am not setting a good example.
What I need is a boyfriend! I want someone to cook for. My family turns their nose up at anything I make, whether they try it or not. So that even if they try it they already know they are not going to like it. Not the best environment for George. Of course he's not going to eat what I cook.

Well I think I've done enough complaining for one day.
I will look up the site you mentioned. thanks. I'm also looking into a homeschooling support group for the extra curricular activities and Mom's night out.
Angie

[Dannyboy1]

Congratulations. Love him. Teach him to love and free him from ego.