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Old 08-19-2008, 02:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dear Fellow Beings,

In the following text, I am going to present you with an ancient alchemical formula synthesized for the benefit of contemporary readers who find Scriptural Texts a bit daunting to comprehend. This synthesis will be achieved using a modern map of consciousness, which I find very useful for such purposes. It is the Eight-Circuit Neurological Model of Consciousness initially developed by Timothy Leary, and elaborated upon by Robert Anton Wilson in his perennial classic 'Prometheus Rising'. Readers are urged to acquaint themselves with the model presented therein: it refers to the different parts of human consciousness as 'Circuits' activated during one's life. Also referred to along the way will be teachings of other Wise Men, who have synthesized this knowledge and presented it in their own language - including G.I. Gurdjieff (an Armenian mystic who brought Sufi teachings to the West), and David R. Hawkins (contemporary spiritual master).

The Evolution of Consciousness

Circuit I: Oral Bio-Survival The Fool is born. This is the state of exploded ('enlightened') consciousness but is soon impinged upon by the immediate environment. The Mother God Archetype is sought after, and the closest mothering object is imprinted as such. Consciousness is one-dimensional at this stage, comprising basic Advance-Retreat. Those imprinted heavily at this level grow up to be fat, sensitive, and fear-ridden. Sugary foods and drinks are much loved at this level. This is the Freudian Id. Gurdjieff calls it the 'Movement Center'. Hawkins calibrates this at 100 and below. The yoga practise of asana tames this circuit by holding the bio-survival unit in a still posture, until all anxiety is bleached out through monotony.

Circuit II: Anal Emotional-Territorial The Fool grows up, masters gravity by learning to walk, and learns to become political in the surrounding family. The Father God Archetype is sought after, and traditional potty-training ensues. Consciousness is two-dimensional at this stage, adding the y-axis of Dominance-Submission to the x-axis of Advance-Retreat. Those imprinted heavily at this level grow up to be muscular, controlling, and anger-ridden...most of them end up going into the military. Alcohol is the drug of choice at this level. This is the Freudian Ego. Gurdjieff calls it the 'False Emotional Center' while Hawkins calibrates it to around 150. The yoga practise of pranayama tames this circuit by relaxing all negative emotions with oxygen, inhaled and exhaled correctly.

Circuit III: Time-Binding Semantic The Fool goes to school, and cultural conditioning ('brainwashing') begins here. The Hierophant Archetype is realized, and one learns language, math, logic, science, etc. Consciousness advances from its early two-dimensions and begins to influence Time through memory. Those imprinted heavily at this level grow up to be bald, bespectacled, and 'nerdy', usually becoming rationalists and scientists. Caffeine and Cocaine are the agents of this circuit. Gurdjieff calls it the 'False Intellectual Center' and Jung calls it the 'Reasoning Child'. The yoga practise of mantra (or dharana) tames this circuit through repetitive chanting which helps shut up the 'internal monologue' of the rational mind.

Circuit IV: Socio-Sexual Moral The Fool attains puberty. The sexual drive unleashes itself upon the adolescent, who remains in its grasp well into adulthood. Consciousness is imprinted by 'morality' so that untamed sex does not lead to population overdose. Those imprinted heavily at this level grow up to be good-looking, attractive as they love giving out mating signals...most of them marry, have children and undertake 'responsibility'. MDMA (Ecstasy) is the agent of this circuit. This is the Freudian Super-Ego. Gurdjieff calls it the 'False Personality' while Hawkins calibrates it to about 175. The yoga practise of yama tames this circuit by making one lose all interest in their social and sexual lives (celibacy) - the Crowleyan school found this unacceptable and used Tantra instead.

Circuit V: Sensory Neuro-Somatic This is the first 'advanced' circuit where The Fool enters into the spiritual realm with the aid of The Hermit. Consciousness is introduced to the perceptual delights of the plain naked body. Sex gives way to foreplay. Those imprinted heavily at this level grow up to be charismatic and graceful if not good-looking...a lot of them become artists, musicians, spiritual students. This is also the 'oceanic experience' felt by the self-actualizers in Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. Cannabis is the agent of choice at this circuit. Gurdjieff calls it the 'Magentic Center' while Hawkins calibrates it to about 250. The yoga practise of niyama teaches one to be spontaneous deliberately, so that the bio-energies deflected upwards from the lower circuits can find appropraite manifestation here.

Circuit VI: Psychic Metaprogramming The Fool opens the Third Eye. Consciousness is introduced to paranormal powers such as clairvoyance, remote-viewing and precognition. The imagination takes over from the will. Those imprinted at this level become psychic mediums, channelers or spiritual teachers. The Pavlina's are at this level. LSD is the agent of choice at this circuit. Gurdjeiff calls it the 'True Emotional Center' while Hawkins calibrates it to about 500. The yoga practise of dhyana (or 'sustained concentration') allows one to focus the bio-energies inwards so that they illuminate the ajna chakra in between the eyes on the forehead.

Circuit VII: Mythic Neurogenetic The Fool becomes an Avatara. Consciousness is realized at the Spirit level. This is the Realm of the Archetypes...life is lived effortlessly through willed synchronicities. Companionship of the Gods is achieved at this level. Those who take imprint here become Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad, Moses. The Psilocybin Mushroom is the agent of choice for this circuit. Gurdjeiff calls it the 'True Intellectual Center' while Hawkins calibrates it to 600+. Immortality is achieved here. The yoga practise of samadhi aims to unite the observer with the observed, so that there is no 'seperateness' between mind and matter. Truth is finally revealed.

Circuit VIII: Spiritual Non-Local Quantum The Fool attains The Universe and returns Unto Its Self. This is the realm of God Itself. Power over and beyond space-time is achieved at this level. This is the realm of Krishna...known by others names as God, Lord, Allah, Pan (who are all derivatives of Jehovah, who comes from Yahweh, which stands for YHVH: the geometrical formula of the Tetragrammaton which puts the four Elements of Nature - fire, water, air, earth - into perfect balance against the corresponding Ether). Salvia Divinorum and Ketamine are the agents of this circuit. Gurdjieff calls it 'The Essence' while Hawkins calibrates it to 700-1000. This is permanent imprinting of samadhi so that the Being enters into a state of nirvana: moksha (or liberation) is attained from samsara (life and death).

So My Dear Friends, this is the True Nature of your Being. This is who You really ARE!

O Lovers of Jesus, go forth and Evolve! Praise be to You Oh Divine Youth Krishna, permit us to become like You!


[the above text contains a blessed talisman: to those who read it with an open mind and a loving heart, this talisman shall transfer]

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Interesting stuff. I've read a bit of Hawkins here and there. I have a quick question, though. What do you mean by imprint? Is this perminant or is it just a word for high exposure?
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So My Dear Friends, this is the True Nature of your Being. This is who You really ARE!
Our true nature is to be Fools? Aww...

So, assuming I've reached puberty already, and wanted to start doing yoga...would I start by practicing only asana, then eventually including pranayama, etc., in circuit number ascending order? Or would I work backwards, starting by practicing only yama, then including mantra, all the way back to asana? Or would I just start with all 4 simultaneously?
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The question about the permanency of imprints is very good. I shall try to explain it here:

The points in life mentioned above are the points of "imprint vulnerability" in the individual for that particular 'circuit'. The imprint could be either positive or negative. The first two circuits call out to the Mother and Father Archetypes, but how well the actual biological parents live up to these archetypes determines the nature of the imprint. If they do a good job, a good Universe is imprinted...if they do a bad job, a bad Universe is imprinted. This life-view then continues on well into adulthood, determining a person's choices, friends, career, partner, etc. It also determines how well a person adapts to the 'higher' circuits...a negative imprint on the lower one will break under the high velocity of the corresponding upper circuit (circuit 5 is the overtone for circuit 1, circ 6 for circ 2, and so on). Another example of this imprint vulnerability comes in the first few sexual experiences a person has...the conditions under which this process takes place imprints itself on that person (eg back-seat of a car in the woods), and so whenever these conditions are replicated, the person in question always gets turned on.

The imprints are then locked by further conditioning and learning done over and above the imprints. This constant re-inforcement develops one's "reality-tunnel" in which he/she goes on to live the rest of their life. Everything one experiences is subjectively placed within the boundaries of one's particular "reality-tunnel" (one's own little universe). The power of re-imprinting does not come until a person's consciousness reaches Level 6 (metaprogramming). This is the level of 'brain-consciousness' where the person's entire memory returns...the individual can now view the entire chain of images from birth up until the present time and see where the 'glitches' in this memory-matrix appear...the 'glitches' would be areas of suppressed memories/negative imprints...the individual can now 're-live' these experiences to see why the imprint took place, and free this particular blockage of energy...this is usually known as a 'break-through' session in the therapists office and takes a lot of time to get to, however the practices of magick and yoga have figured out much more efficient ways to achieve the same result. Radical psychologists in the 1960's experimented with LSD in very controlled settings to achieve this same re-imprinting process. Remember: there is no energy shortage, only energy blockage. These circuits can be considered as the 'chakras' as well. Once the bio-energies are released from this blockage, the kundalini serpent moves upwards and opens the higher circuit. This is the wisdom behind the saying: "Let go of the past, and live in the present".

As for yoga: this is ALWAYS done from the bottom-up. A person begins by clearing the block from the 1st circuit, and moves up slowly. Any other practise which helps to clear out the bio-survival fears and anxieties of Circuit 1 will also help - a person has to use his/her own judgement as to what such activities would entail. As a crude example, lets take the game of poker: a great poker player has to master Circuit 1 by eliminating all fear from his game, Circuit 2 is mastered by eliminating all emotional attachment to the game so that he never goes on tilt, Circuit 3 is mastered by making all the right rational decisions whenever he plays, Circuit 4 is mastered by reading the other players on the table accurately, Circuit 5 is mastered by being creative when he plays, and Circuit 6 is mastered by his ability to maintain concentration all-day long so that he can inuitively read the vibes in the air (or be in the 'Zone'). This is the reason why professional poker players can sometimes appear very charismatic and 'god-like' to others, but their worship of money blocks their energy at level 6 and they fail to evolve higher. This happens to a lot of successful businessmen as well.

A very useful meditation to see how your circuits are imprinted is the following one: (taken from Robert Anton Wilsons 'Illuminati Papers')

Sit in a quiet place, and try to scan the nature of the circuit by seeing which of the two categories below it falls in. Be as honest as you can with yourself.

Circuit I
Winner: "I will live forever or die trying"
Loser: "I don't know how to defend myself"

Circuit II
Winner: "I am free; you are free; we can have our seperate trips or we can have the same trip"
Loser: "They all intimidate me"

Circuit III
Winner: "I am learning more about everything, including how to learn more"
Loser: "I can't solve my problems"

Circuit IV
Winner: "Love, and do what you Will"
Loser: "Everything I like is illegal, immoral, or fattening"

Circuit V
Winner: "How I feel depends on my bodily knowhow"
Loser: "I can't help the way I feel"

Circuit VI
Winner: "I make my own coincidences, synchronicities, luck and Destiny"
Loser: "Why do I have such lousy luck?"

Circuit VII
Winner: "Future evolution depends on my decisions now"
Loser: "Evolution is blind and impersonal"

Circuit VIII
Winner: "In the province of the mind, what is believed to be true is true, or becomes true within certain limits to be learned by experience and experiment"
Loser: "I am not psychic, and I doubt anyone is"
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The question about the permanency of imprints is very good. I shall try to explain it here:

The points in life mentioned above are the points of "imprint vulnerability" in the individual for that particular 'circuit'. The imprint could be either positive or negative. The first two circuits call out to the Mother and Father Archetypes, but how well the actual biological parents live up to these archetypes determines the nature of the imprint. If they do a good job, a good Universe is imprinted...if they do a bad job, a bad Universe is imprinted. This life-view then continues on well into adulthood, determining a person's choices, friends, career, partner, etc. It also determines how well a person adapts to the 'higher' circuits...a negative imprint on the lower one will break under the high velocity of the corresponding upper circuit (circuit 5 is the overtone for circuit 1, circ 6 for circ 2, and so on). Another example of this imprint vulnerability comes in the first few sexual experiences a person has...the conditions under which this process takes place imprints itself on that person (eg back-seat of a car in the woods), and so whenever these conditions are replicated, the person in question always gets turned on.

The imprints are then locked by further conditioning and learning done over and above the imprints. This constant re-inforcement develops one's "reality-tunnel" in which he/she goes on to live the rest of their life. Everything one experiences is subjectively placed within the boundaries of one's particular "reality-tunnel" (one's own little universe). The power of re-imprinting does not come until a person's consciousness reaches Level 6 (metaprogramming). This is the level of 'brain-consciousness' where the person's entire memory returns...the individual can now view the entire chain of images from birth up until the present time and see where the 'glitches' in this memory-matrix appear...the 'glitches' would be areas of suppressed memories/negative imprints...the individual can now 're-live' these experiences to see why the imprint took place, and free this particular blockage of energy...this is usually known as a 'break-through' session in the therapists office and takes a lot of time to get to, however the practices of magick and yoga have figured out much more efficient ways to achieve the same result. Radical psychologists in the 1960's experimented with LSD in very controlled settings to achieve this same re-imprinting process. Remember: there is no energy shortage, only energy blockage. These circuits can be considered as the 'chakras' as well. Once the bio-energies are released from this blockage, the kundalini serpent moves upwards and opens the higher circuit. This is the wisdom behind the saying: "Let go of the past, and live in the present".

As for yoga: this is ALWAYS done from the bottom-up. A person begins by clearing the block from the 1st circuit, and moves up slowly. Any other practise which helps to clear out the bio-survival fears and anxieties of Circuit 1 will also help - a person has to use his/her own judgement as to what such activities would entail. As a crude example, lets take the game of poker: a great poker player has to master Circuit 1 by eliminating all fear from his game, Circuit 2 is mastered by eliminating all emotional attachment to the game so that he never goes on tilt, Circuit 3 is mastered by making all the right rational decisions whenever he plays, Circuit 4 is mastered by reading the other players on the table accurately, Circuit 5 is mastered by being creative when he plays, and Circuit 6 is mastered by his ability to maintain concentration all-day long so that he can inuitively read the vibes in the air (or be in the 'Zone'). This is the reason why professional poker players can sometimes appear very charismatic and 'god-like' to others, but their worship of money blocks their energy at level 6 and they fail to evolve higher. This happens to a lot of successful businessmen as well.

A very useful meditation to see how your circuits are imprinted is the following one: (taken from Robert Anton Wilsons 'Illuminati Papers')

Sit in a quiet place, and try to scan the nature of the circuit by seeing which of the two categories below it falls in. Be as honest as you can with yourself.

Circuit I
Winner: "I will live forever or die trying"
Loser: "I don't know how to defend myself"

Circuit II
Winner: "I am free; you are free; we can have our seperate trips or we can have the same trip"
Loser: "They all intimidate me"

Circuit III
Winner: "I am learning more about everything, including how to learn more"
Loser: "I can't solve my problems"

Circuit IV
Winner: "Love, and do what you Will"
Loser: "Everything I like is illegal, immoral, or fattening"

Circuit V
Winner: "How I feel depends on my bodily knowhow"
Loser: "I can't help the way I feel"

Circuit VI
Winner: "I make my own coincidences, synchronicities, luck and Destiny"
Loser: "Why do I have such lousy luck?"

Circuit VII
Winner: "Future evolution depends on my decisions now"
Loser: "Evolution is blind and impersonal"

Circuit VIII
Winner: "In the province of the mind, what is believed to be true is true, or becomes true within certain limits to be learned by experience and experiment"
Loser: "I am not psychic, and I doubt anyone is"
Wow! You have blown me away! Is this just knowledge or have you applied this knowledge in your life and transformed it into wisdom?
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Ha Ha Ha!

Yes Sir, you can safely assume this to be the Highest form of Wisdom. Consider it as a 'Bhagavad-Gita for Dummies'.

As for me...well, if I tell you who I really am you are not going to believe me as it is...so let's just leave it there
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Dear aKarma,

Who you are may not matter, but what you say does. For that reason I have read all your posts. Very interesting to say the least. What strikes me is your eclectic approach to this great matter. Also I found out you only recently joined. I hope you find this place well. Unfortunately I am not able to phrase any question or enter this dialog in another meaningful way. However I do wish to reveal my presence and greet you. I believe it is:

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Thanks for the information. The comparison with poker was dead on. I am a poker player myself, and I'm kind of using the game to improve my intuition. So far I haven't had much luck. Well, it comes and goes.

Circuit V definitely describes where I'm at right now. Funny thing about it is that I am a musical artist and I do smoke a good amount of cannibis as you mentioned in there.

I seem to be stuck on circuit 5 and can't reach 6.

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Circuit VI
Winner: "I make my own coincidences, synchronicities, luck and Destiny"
Loser: "Why do I have such lousy luck?"
The Loser is totally where I am with that one. I notice that while playing poker, quite often I will be statistically (80%-95%)favored to win the hand and still lose, and this happens most of the time. I think this has something to do with me assuming the negative is going to happen, therefor I somehow create that negative reality. Either that or I am so paranoid about losing that it still happens and the person playing against me will hit the 1 card in the deck he can hit to win the hand, throwing all skills out the window. Now obviously improving my poker game isn't my primary goal, but it seems like a good way to see where I'm at. Do you have any advice on crossing from circuit V to circuit VI?
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Yes Sir, you can safely assume this to be the Highest form of Wisdom. Consider it as a 'Bhagavad-Gita for Dummies'.

As for me...well, if I tell you who I really am you are not going to believe me as it is...so let's just leave it there
I would agree that it looks like wisdom and sounds like wisdom but it may be observation/knowledge/theory without any power. Is this 'knowledge' workable?

I am absolutely intrigued with who you are. I may not believe you if you say you are GOD but I would not dismiss the possibility either. I would certainly have a lotta questions to ask you.
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I got interested in the beginning, but when i saw that this circuit system placed psychics at a higher level of consciousness than scientists, i could read no longer.


I suppose Einstein is on a lower level of consciousness than the psychic next door then? What a beautiful idea, let us all throw reason and science out the of the windows and follow the delusions that some call "visions" or "spirit guides" or whatever. Sooner than we realize we're back to stone age.
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B]The Evolution of Consciousness[/B]

Circuit I: Oral Bio-Survival The Fool is born. This is the state of exploded ('enlightened') consciousness but is soon impinged upon by the immediate environment. The Mother God Archetype is sought after, and the closest mothering object is imprinted as such. Consciousness is one-dimensional at this stage, comprising basic Advance-Retreat. Those imprinted heavily at this level grow up to be fat, sensitive, and fear-ridden. Sugary foods and drinks are much loved at this level. This is the Freudian Id. Gurdjieff calls it the 'Movement Center'. Hawkins calibrates this at 100 and below. The yoga practise of asana tames this circuit by holding the bio-survival unit in a still posture, until all anxiety is bleached out through monotony.

Circuit II: Anal Emotional-Territorial The Fool grows up, masters gravity by learning to walk, and learns to become political in the surrounding family. The Father God Archetype is sought after, and traditional potty-training ensues. Consciousness is two-dimensional at this stage, adding the y-axis of Dominance-Submission to the x-axis of Advance-Retreat. Those imprinted heavily at this level grow up to be muscular, controlling, and anger-ridden...most of them end up going into the military. Alcohol is the drug of choice at this level. This is the Freudian Ego. Gurdjieff calls it the 'False Emotional Center' while Hawkins calibrates it to around 150. The yoga practise of pranayama tames this circuit by relaxing all negative emotions with oxygen, inhaled and exhaled correctly.

Circuit III: Time-Binding Semantic The Fool goes to school, and cultural conditioning ('brainwashing') begins here. The Hierophant Archetype is realized, and one learns language, math, logic, science, etc. Consciousness advances from its early two-dimensions and begins to influence Time through memory. Those imprinted heavily at this level grow up to be bald, bespectacled, and 'nerdy', usually becoming rationalists and scientists. Caffeine and Cocaine are the agents of this circuit. Gurdjieff calls it the 'False Intellectual Center' and Jung calls it the 'Reasoning Child'. The yoga practise of mantra (or dharana) tames this circuit through repetitive chanting which helps shut up the 'internal monologue' of the rational mind.

Circuit IV: Socio-Sexual Moral The Fool attains puberty. The sexual drive unleashes itself upon the adolescent, who remains in its grasp well into adulthood. Consciousness is imprinted by 'morality' so that untamed sex does not lead to population overdose. Those imprinted heavily at this level grow up to be good-looking, attractive as they love giving out mating signals...most of them marry, have children and undertake 'responsibility'. MDMA (Ecstasy) is the agent of this circuit. This is the Freudian Super-Ego. Gurdjieff calls it the 'False Personality' while Hawkins calibrates it to about 175. The yoga practise of yama tames this circuit by making one lose all interest in their social and sexual lives (celibacy) - the Crowleyan school found this unacceptable and used Tantra instead.

Circuit V: Sensory Neuro-Somatic This is the first 'advanced' circuit where The Fool enters into the spiritual realm with the aid of The Hermit. Consciousness is introduced to the perceptual delights of the plain naked body. Sex gives way to foreplay. Those imprinted heavily at this level grow up to be charismatic and graceful if not good-looking...a lot of them become artists, musicians, spiritual students. This is also the 'oceanic experience' felt by the self-actualizers in Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. Cannabis is the agent of choice at this circuit. Gurdjieff calls it the 'Magentic Center' while Hawkins calibrates it to about 250. The yoga practise of niyama teaches one to be spontaneous deliberately, so that the bio-energies deflected upwards from the lower circuits can find appropraite manifestation here.

Circuit VI: Psychic Metaprogramming The Fool opens the Third Eye. Consciousness is introduced to paranormal powers such as clairvoyance, remote-viewing and precognition. The imagination takes over from the will. Those imprinted at this level become psychic mediums, channelers or spiritual teachers. The Pavlina's are at this level. LSD is the agent of choice at this circuit. Gurdjeiff calls it the 'True Emotional Center' while Hawkins calibrates it to about 500. The yoga practise of dhyana (or 'sustained concentration') allows one to focus the bio-energies inwards so that they illuminate the ajna chakra in between the eyes on the forehead.

Circuit VII: Mythic Neurogenetic The Fool becomes an Avatara. Consciousness is realized at the Spirit level. This is the Realm of the Archetypes...life is lived effortlessly through willed synchronicities. Companionship of the Gods is achieved at this level. Those who take imprint here become Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad, Moses. The Psilocybin Mushroom is the agent of choice for this circuit. Gurdjeiff calls it the 'True Intellectual Center' while Hawkins calibrates it to 600+. Immortality is achieved here. The yoga practise of samadhi aims to unite the observer with the observed, so that there is no 'seperateness' between mind and matter. Truth is finally revealed.

Circuit VIII: Spiritual Non-Local Quantum The Fool attains The Universe and returns Unto Its Self. This is the realm of God Itself. Power over and beyond space-time is achieved at this level. This is the realm of Krishna...known by others names as God, Lord, Allah, Pan (who are all derivatives of Jehovah, who comes from Yahweh, which stands for YHVH: the geometrical formula of the Tetragrammaton which puts the four Elements of Nature - fire, water, air, earth - into perfect balance against the corresponding Ether). Salvia Divinorum and Ketamine are the agents of this circuit. Gurdjieff calls it 'The Essence' while Hawkins calibrates it to 700-1000. This is permanent imprinting of samadhi so that the Being enters into a state of nirvana: moksha (or liberation) is attained from samsara (life and death).


Could anyone point out to me the wisdom of this? I fail to see any, nor do I see the need to ascribe different drugs, or any drugs, to different levels of consciousness.
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I got interested in the beginning, but when i saw that this circuit system placed psychics at a higher level of consciousness than scientists, i could read no longer.

I suppose Einstein is on a lower level of consciousness than the psychic next door then? What a beautiful idea, let us all throw reason and science out the of the windows and follow the delusions that some call "visions" or "spirit guides" or whatever. Sooner than we realize we're back to stone age.
It's not about intellect. It's about spirituality and consciousness. A different wavelength so to speak. Technically somebody who has psychic powers would definitely have a higher consciousness level than somebody who doesn't. Simple logic will tell you that. A scientist might have vast knowledge, but that is merely physical. See what I'm saying?
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Try reading a little bit of David Hawkins, and you might understand a little better. He goes into good detail about calibrating consciousness and it's various levels. Sure you could easily dismiss that, as well as anything spiritual, as a hoax, but then why would you even post in the thread if you do not believe or understand it?

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The circuit system was created by Timothy Leary and is an (up-dated) mind map of the chakra system. Check this out. In the upper right hand corner you will find a drop down menu with a lot more info. That's from deoxy.org. Terrance McKenna's website and one of the best finds I've ever made on the Internet.

And the book Prometheus Rising will change your life. It's in my top ten favourites of all time.

And for those interested in becoming God, you might look into this here.
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Could anyone point out to me the wisdom of this? I fail to see any, nor do I see the need to ascribe different drugs, or any drugs, to different levels of consciousness.
I would say that if you want to find something in a huge city, it is wise to have a map. And a psycho-active drug is associated with certain levels of consciousness. That's why it is a psycho-active drug.
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I got interested in the beginning, but when i saw that this circuit system placed psychics at a higher level of consciousness than scientists, i could read no longer.


I suppose Einstein is on a lower level of consciousness than the psychic next door then? What a beautiful idea, let us all throw reason and science out the of the windows and follow the delusions that some call "visions" or "spirit guides" or whatever. Sooner than we realize we're back to stone age.
Actually Einstein et al are/were more "connected" than most psychics - he was just tuned into different information. The cliche' of the absent-minded professor and highly intelligent people often being somewhat eccentric, I believe, comes from the fact that these people are drawing from "higher" conciousness. They almost literally do have their heads in the clouds.

I have a fairly high IQ (but I'm no genius), and I feel that stuff like Einstein did often does not come through pure step-by-step logic but a sudden flash of insight.
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Alright, just to set a foundation here, I smoke weed every day and I've had very spiritual experiences with LSD and mushrooms.

You could say that my 'drug of choice' would be cannabis, but it's just because I don't really want to be frying my brain nonstop with LSD and mushrooms. Does that automatically calibrate me at the fifth circuit?

I don't trip on LSD or mushrooms just for fun. I have a very spiritual mindset towards them, and on my last mushroom trip I sat in my room meditating and contemplating for the whole duration. During that time I unblocked certain energies and I literally cried for about an hour.

What I'm trying to say is that I've had experiences with the sixth and seventh circuit, and I'm always working on bringing that awareness into the present, without the use of LSD or mushrooms (I've witnessed so many synchronicities, but they weren't 'willed'...or maybe they were, subconsciously haha). But does smoking weed inhibit my growth, because it's a drug of choice for a lower circuit?

I've been trying to place marijuana's significance in my life recently, and if it really is slowing down my growth, then this might be the sign that I should stop it altogether.
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Try reading a little bit of David Hawkins, and you might understand a little better. He goes into good detail about calibrating consciousness and it's various levels. Sure you could easily dismiss that, as well as anything spiritual, as a hoax, but then why would you even post in the thread if you do not believe or understand it?
On your recommendation I did read a little of David Hawkins and it explained the ideas more clearly. I've not yet read of the research which has been done to arrive at these 8 levels. I certainly do not dismiss anything spiritual as a hoax. Understanding is not a condition of posting on this forum.
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A great and very interesting post. Thank you.

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Actually Einstein et al are/were more "connected" than most psychics - he was just tuned into different information. The cliche' of the absent-minded professor and highly intelligent people often being somewhat eccentric, I believe, comes from the fact that these people are drawing from "higher" conciousness. They almost literally do have their heads in the clouds.

I have a fairly high IQ (but I'm no genius), and I feel that stuff like Einstein did often does not come through pure step-by-step logic but a sudden flash of insight.
I've always felt Einstein to be an "Artist" whose medium was Science.
Now I'm thinking him as a "Spiritual Artistic Scientist" as he was defintely inspired and understood the interconnectedness between Science and Spirituality.

Definitely one of my heroes
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It sounds like a load of rubbish to me.

It's just your usual spiritual pontification and nonsense speak to add mysticism to rather normal processes. Sorry.
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It sounds like a load of rubbish to me.

It's just your usual spiritual pontification and nonsense speak to add mysticism to rather normal processes. Sorry.
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Okay you Enlightenment Seekers,

I have some thoughts being transmitted to me from the future which need to be "manifested" immediately (i love this word, 'manifested', ever since i've joined this forum) - A powerful entity has taken hold over my brain...it seems like the Egyptian God of Might, Horus, wishes to address the reading audience:

"O you Circuit I types, you are not going to be making it this time around...you baby-faced cowards are headed straight to Hell,

O you Circuit II macho-types, you are headed right behind them,

O you Circuit III bookworms, you are not getting any heavenly pleasures either...We might decide to save a few quantum physicists though, if We so desire,

O you Circuit IV ones, you make it a close decision for Us...We would recommend you, especially those with the big offices and the empty lives, to smoke some pot before you die,

O you Stoners and Shroomers, you shall be spared...if you reach Circuit VII, We will make sure you DONT stop laughing, that you NEVER stop laughing

And,...as a Special Gift to those brave ones who make it to Circuit VIII, We will make sure that your minds EXPLODE in a way you could have never imagined.

It will be worth EVERYTHING in the world...it will be worth DYING for!"
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Okay you Enlightenment Seekers,

I have some thoughts being transmitted to me from the future which need to be "manifested" immediately (i love this word, 'manifested', ever since i've joined this forum) - A powerful entity has taken hold over my brain...it seems like the Egyptian God of Might, Horus, wishes to address the reading audience:

"O you Circuit I types, you are not going to be making it this time around...you baby-faced cowards are headed straight to Hell,

O you Circuit II macho-types, you are headed right behind them,

O you Circuit III bookworms, you are not getting any heavenly pleasures either...We might decide to save a few quantum physicists though, if We so desire,

O you Circuit IV ones, you make it a close decision for Us...We would recommend you, especially those with the big offices and the empty lives, to smoke some pot before you die,

O you Stoners and Shroomers, you shall be spared...if you reach Circuit VII, We will make sure you DONT stop laughing, that you NEVER stop laughing

And,...as a Special Gift to those brave ones who make it to Circuit VIII, We will make sure that your minds EXPLODE in a way you could have never imagined.

It will be worth EVERYTHING in the world...it will be worth DYING for!"
I suggest you start working on your own enlightenment.
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Ctrl+Alt+Delete. Google is temporarily destroyed, from your prescence anyways.

If you want to be God you're going to have to destroy the existing God's first!
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WTF? I thought the dude was at least a little bit serious! I don't understand why people make posts like this claiming all this enlightenment and then act childish, proving their claims false. I have read a bit of Hawkins' material, however I'm still a newb as far as that's concerned. Thanks for pooping my dreams, buddy.
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Okay you Enlightenment Seekers,

I have some thoughts being transmitted to me from the future which need to be "manifested" immediately (i love this word, 'manifested', ever since i've joined this forum) - A powerful entity has taken hold over my brain...it seems like the Egyptian God of Might, Horus, wishes to address the reading audience:

"O you Circuit I types, you are not going to be making it this time around...you baby-faced cowards are headed straight to Hell,

O you Circuit II macho-types, you are headed right behind them,

O you Circuit III bookworms, you are not getting any heavenly pleasures either...We might decide to save a few quantum physicists though, if We so desire,

O you Circuit IV ones, you make it a close decision for Us...We would recommend you, especially those with the big offices and the empty lives, to smoke some pot before you die,

O you Stoners and Shroomers, you shall be spared...if you reach Circuit VII, We will make sure you DONT stop laughing, that you NEVER stop laughing

And,...as a Special Gift to those brave ones who make it to Circuit VIII, We will make sure that your minds EXPLODE in a way you could have never imagined.

It will be worth EVERYTHING in the world...it will be worth DYING for!"
I've messed around with various cosmologies like this for a long time. I think there is an ego trap in creating higher levels of consciousness... some sort of ladder we're all supposed to climb up and proclaim 'I am God. I am enlightened.'

It's not that we are not God, though we hide it from ourselves. It's that this is not the way to reveal that knowledge. It is actually the opposite: through a state of humility and service that true power is acquired. There is no higher state of consciousness, no cosmic goal to reach, no prophecy, no proclamation. That is all bullsh*t. You are an instrument and the Source works through you.

I have met plenty of people who have burned holes in their head taking psychedelics. These drugs do open some mysteries in the mind, but to make the leap that one is God because they bought a hit of four-way is presumptuous and stupid.

As Alan Watts said, "Once you get the message, hang up the phone."

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O you Creatures of Darkness,

Please...learn to laugh.

I am not forcing this 'cosmology' upon you at all. It is there, it is written for expanded readership...consider it as a 'formula' which needs to be decoded. Read, study, experiment, practise, meditate. Give it a shot. Doesn't work, fine...no bother...but in all honesty, and it is my guarantee, that if you figure it all out you will no longer BE an instrument of the Source, but BECOME the Source Itself.

Godspeed.
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O you Creatures of Darkness,

Please...learn to laugh.

I am not forcing this 'cosmology' upon you at all. It is there, it is written for expanded readership...consider it as a 'formula' which needs to be decoded. Read, study, experiment, practise, meditate. Give it a shot. Doesn't work, fine...no bother...but in all honesty, and it is my guarantee, that if you figure it all out you will no longer BE an instrument of the Source, but BECOME the Source Itself.

Godspeed.
I believe there is a process of human evolution, much as you described BUT GOD? Isn't this total denial of our humanity?

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I would seriously challenge the final two circuits as they are both deriving from speculation, heresay, wishful thinking or just plain ego. Now that is amusing.
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