How to become Godlike!

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by aKarma

Okay, I am going to do this in the most easiest language that I can find. Please perform a very simple meditation on what I write now. Do not project your own meaning to what I say below, just try to "empathize" with it. Please meditate for at least 10 seconds before going onto the next sentence:


1) You are NOT human.


2) You are NOT your body.


3) You are STUCK in your body.


4) There is a way to GET OUT of this body.


5) It is very DIFFICULT getting out of this body.


6) The way to get out is the way mentioned in the OPENING POST


7) It will take YEARS to get out of the body.


8) Once you get out, you will MERGE with your Source.


9) You can achieve this BEFORE you actually die.


10) Once you achieve it, you can COME AND GO as you please.

Spirit is in matter. Leaving the body is not where it's at while you have a physical body. It is more powerful it feel spirit in matter than try to leave the body, imho. Mind, body and spirit come together as one and that's what we are here to live out. Not try to leave matter behind, deny the body. The body is a manifestation of our spiritual expressions, to deny that is to deny our spirit. Merging with source happens right in your body, then your body can luminate and grove in the spirit.

[Davidya]

There is indeed a process of evolution of awareness, just as there is a process of growth as we mature into adults. Many call this states of consciousness and that is quite valid. But each of us experience the process differently. A few simply switch, most go through some kind of process.

What's bull about states of consciousness is all our ideas of it. The mind cannot grasp it, so we can only make concepts about it. And how can we relate to states several above where we are? What does it mean to be one with all you perceive? What does it mean to see life and awareness even in the pebbles under our feet?

But to deny there are states of awareness or a process of growth will get in the way of it just as surely as any concepts of it. Better to leave an open mind, allow for any possibility. Then when the growth dawns, we can look back upon the framework we may have seen and understand what has taken place.

Wolfgang is correct. But perhaps if we understand the process, we can see why there is this difference of opinion. The usual process to oneness is to first step into 2ness, to step back into pure awareness and see we are that. At first, this means a sense of separation, a separate observer, a sense we are not the body, not the thoughts and emotions we once saw ourselves being. Then that inner silence moves forward into the experience and brings it all together.

It does not have to be difficult but it can take some time. Its a big change. But what takes time is the change. We can drop into the silent source at any time. It is also not an accomplishment and does not end. There is always more opening, more integration possible.

Many teachers encourage simple inquiry. This gets you less into the mind, moer into the basic question of who is having these thoughts/ drama/ life.

[fellowtraveler]

Originally Posted by Davidya

...each of us experience the process differently. A few simply switch, most go through some kind of process.

That's very true. For me, I don't try to meditate (only once or twice so far); no chanting, mantras, visualizations, praying (although I do ask my guides for signs and help, and they do respond), incense, sage-flinging or voodoo-ing.

What I've discovered is that all I need to do is to absorb ideas, gently hold the intention to develop, and let my unconscious do the heavy lifting. I'll wake up one morning, and I'm different. I'm in a cycle where I don't remember any of my dreams, so don't know what's going on in there. The particular difference in my personality isn't drastic in most cases, but it is demonstrable in my deeds and words.

I'll still try out a lot of the tools eventually, but I'm quite pleased with my success so far and glad my "higher self" is smarter than I am.

[Davidya]

FellowTraveler: What you are doing is valuable. But note that all of these things - ideas, dreams, intention - are all of the construct, the mind. While you are getting to know the construct more deeply, you are playing in the illusion.

Somewhere in your practice, you want something to connect with who you are, the silence within. Be that inquiry or meditation or whatever practice through which you find silence. Also note that you cannot try to meditate. That is not true meditation. Same with any other practice. The only reason trying will bring you to silence is in exhausting the mind. It can be easier.

The inner journey is a path of allowing, of opening to what is. Any trying means you have fallen back into mind.

[fellowtraveler]

Originally Posted by Davidya

FellowTraveler: What you are doing is valuable. But note that all of these things - ideas, dreams, intention - are all of the construct, the mind. While you are getting to know the construct more deeply, you are playing in the illusion.

Somewhere in your practice, you want something to connect with who you are, the silence within. Be that inquiry or meditation or whatever practice through which you find silence. Also note that you cannot try to meditate. That is not true meditation. Same with any other practice. The only reason trying will bring you to silence is in exhausting the mind. It can be easier.

The inner journey is a path of allowing, of opening to what is. Any trying means you have fallen back into mind.

Davidya,

You are a kind and gentle soul. I don't know if you are a man or a woman, but I bet you're beautiful either way. I feel kinship because of your quiet posts. I've always said I'm extremely simpleminded - most people think I'm self-deprecating because of that, but you know what I mean, I'm sure.

I do understand about the "trying" part, really I do. My better half knows that - it's just that words get in the way a lot. Physically i'm about as rough a character as you'll see...but I grew that carapace for protection when I thought I needed it. Now I feel like a flower opening to the sun. It's indescribable.

Thank you for paying attention to me, it means a lot. May your kindness and love return to you ten times tenfold. My heart feels full to overflowing tonight and I'm sending it to you across the continent - I hope you feel it.

Peace to you, my friend.

[Davidya]

Thanks, FT
By the very nature of what is, what you give is what you receive. So keep it up. ;-)

[mercuryrising]

I was thinking about this idea of becoming Godlike.

I think the simplest way to become more Godlike is to realize that you are not God.

[Davidya]

MR - You're right. You cannot realize you are God. The idea of 'me' is way too small a box.
But if God is omnipresent, what is not God? Only the idea of being not God. But even that is within God.

Becoming more Godlike comes down to being more of what you already are, under the veil of illusions, the stories we tell about the world. This why so many tell the message of being in the moment, being OK with what is. That's where reality is - not in the past or future, not in any mental ideas or expectations, not in any small concepts, not in any realizations. God is only found in being.

Finding God in everything else comes after that.

[schola]

I like this thread. If for no other reason than because the OP has definitely stirred the pot a bit and created some controversy on this forum! And I love to see stuff get stirred up!

The model put forth is quite interesting. Good job aKarma!

[aKarma]

Thank you schola,

To those who are actually sitting down and prudently studying this model rather than throwing baseless criticisms at it, here's a little more help:

Circuit I: This is represented by the Infant Souls in the Michael Teachings. In the TV show LOST, this is represented by the character Hurley. In Star Trek it is represented by the 'life-support' engineering ability of Scotty. Users of Heroin are reminded of the snug security of this blissful birth consciousness. This is the lower body chakra.

Circuit II: These are the transitionary Infant-to-Baby Souls. In LOST, this is represented by Sayid, Sawyer and Kate. In Star Trek it is represented by the 'emotional sentimentality' of Dr McCoy. This is patriotism and nationalism. The Egyptian deity Horus stands here. Alcohol stimulates the power consciousness of this circuit.

Circuit III: These are primarily Baby Souls. In LOST, it is well represented by Jack and Juliet, and lately Daniel Faraday. In Star Trek, the 'logic' of Spock is a reflection of such rational consciousness. This is the Egyptian deity Anubis. Caffeine stimulates this part of the brain.

Circuit IV: These are the early levels of the Young Souls...most people chasing the 'American Dream' place here (the yuppies). In LOST, it is represented by Sun & Jin, as well as Desmond & Penny. In Star Trek, the 'paternalistic and romantic' nature of Captain Kirk expresses this state. This is collective consciousness. It is also the heart chakra.

Circuit V: These are the later levels of the Young Souls...the people replacing the 'American Dream' with unalloyed hedonism place here (the hippies). In LOST it is represented by Charlie, and in Star Trek the ship Enterprise (the body itself). The Egyptian Goddess Maat stands here. It is called body consciousness, as well as the throat chakra.

Circuit VI: These are the Mature Souls. In LOST, John Locke and Ben Linus represent this state. In Star Trek (TNG), the 'psychic counselling' ability of Deanna Troi is an apt representation. This is the nu-mind of Zen. It is also called soul consciousness, and is the ajna forehead chakra.

Circuit VII: These are the Old Souls. In LOST, it is represented by the immortal Richard. Most highly evolved alien species in Star Trek represent this state. It is also us-in-the-future. This is the Gaia Hypothesis. It is also the 'Collective Subconscious' of Carl Jung. Egyptian Gods Ra and Osiris stand here. This is typically referred to as evolutionary consciousness. It is also the crown chakra.

Circuit VIII: These are the Transcendental and Infinite Souls. In LOST, it is represented by Jacob. In the later series of Star Trek, it is represented by the Q-continuum as well as Warp Ten. This is oneness-with-God. It is described by the quantum physicist David Bohm as the 'Implicate Order'. The Egyptian God Ptah/Amoun stand here. This is popularly known as cosmic consciousness.

Hope these examples make it a bit more clear as to what is being suggested. As you progress through life, if you make a concerted effort to expand your consciousness this is a good way to keep track. It serves as a guide-post. There are possibilities and paradoxes beyond the Infinite as well, so there really is no end to this process...hence it is eternal. The more your consciousness keeps expanding, the more the Universe itself keeps expanding.

[mercuryrising]

Originally Posted by Davidya

MR - You're right. You cannot realize you are God. The idea of 'me' is way too small a box.
But if God is omnipresent, what is not God? Only the idea of being not God. But even that is within God.

Becoming more Godlike comes down to being more of what you already are, under the veil of illusions, the stories we tell about the world. This why so many tell the message of being in the moment, being OK with what is. That's where reality is - not in the past or future, not in any mental ideas or expectations, not in any small concepts, not in any realizations. God is only found in being.

Finding God in everything else comes after that.

I have nothing to say, but that I agree with you.

[shad0wfire1]

Nice article it just informed me a lot!