Am I Schizophrenic and crazy or Psychic or medium or what!?..I am about to cry...

[laceyjade10]

I am new to talking and discussing these subjects with other people.
I have felt different my whole life and out of place with the people I grew up with. (In Redneckville, La) If I tried to talk about what I felt, I was usually told or looked at like I was crazy. So, I would often wonder if I was just crazy... So many times I felt depressed and frustrated because I would have experiences that were undeniablebly REAL but when I would try tell someone because I was so amazed and excited, I could feel their doubt and disbelief.
So, when I read here, I get emotional because my whole life I didnt know another soul who felt or talked about similiar things. Or had similiar experiences...
So, I apologize because I tend to ramble and make long posts because I have so much to tell that I want to hear other's opinions about!

But, anyway, on to the topic question...

I have dreams that come true, but I don't control them. They come out of the blue and sometimes don't make sense for up to a couple of years... Usually, they involve me personally, but I also have dreams about tragedy's I see a few months later in the news. Usually, the event is farther away and I couldnt have done anything to stop it or warn somebody, because the dream was too vague. But when watching what happened on TV, it will be exact words or scenes from my dream that shows me it is the exact event I dreamt and I feel so guilty like maybe I could have done something...
One of my more major examples. When I was a kid I had a dream that was so vivid I wrote it down. I dreamt that a big passenger airplane crashed into the back of our pasture bursting into flames. I ran out to see if I could possibly save anyone, but the plane was obliterated. But some luggage had photos instead of nametags. ( how luggage survived, I dont know) I saw two different vivid photos that stuck in my mind. Almost ten years later, 9/11 happened. A couple of weeks after 9/11 I watched a show on the plane that had crashed in a field that day, and they showed some photos of the people on the plane. Two of those people's faces had been the one's I had seen in that dream almost 10 years earlier..What is that?
Also, I had another dream about 2 months before 9/11 that I was in a downtown area and a man was about to jump off a highrise building. I didnt know why he was jumping, but for some reason I could see every detail of the man. I could see his navy suit and red striped tie flapping over his shoulder as he fell, his brown hair flapping and his green eyes, the tears instantly dried against his face from the wind. I could see and feel his horror and sadness. I was sickened by that dream. A couple months later, the morning of 9/11, I woke up and turned on the TV whilegetting breakfast. The planes had already hit so I didnt immediately know what was going on. Just then, the news helicopter zoomed in on THAT GUY from my dreams as he let go of the window and fell. The camera wasn't as close to his face as I was in the dream, but close enough...I felt like I knew him or something and felt so guilty. It dropped me to my knees, crying, and I didnt even know the extent ofwhat hadgone on yet. I mean what is that? Can you work on controlling it better or something. I have other dreams that will just be of a random 5 min or so of my life, and then a month or even a year later it will be almost like De Ja Vu except I know I have dreamt it before. Also do the same thing periodically with events in the news...I even think I may have dreamed how my step-dad will die. But they dont want to hear things like that, plus, it's a random violent act, so hard to predict.

I dont know if I can read someone or necessarily tell their future. But, I can talk to a person for a min and get feelings all about them. Like, I can tell if they are abused, or mean-hearted, just get the feel of them, without knowing even them. I thought maybe I was just real good at profiling people, but I get stuff very often that you couldn't possibly know from being a good profiler. It is just an instinct that kicks in. Like, this person is angry, abused, previously abused, fake, mean, pervert, etc. But, I never tell them when I feel them because I'm afraid I'm wrong or there's really no point. I have those gut instincts also when people are lying. It can even be simple white lies that dont matter, but that instinct kicks in, so it bugs me and I want to call them on it, but don't.

Also, and this is weirder to talk about because none of this is provable, but I feel things around me. Spirits maybe. Its not all the time. It's just random. In a building, house, outside.. Nothing too distinct, just know I feel the presence... Also, you know how when someone walks up behind you and startles you. I do that every now and then. Like, I get startled and expect my son or someone to be right beside me, look down or back and there is no one there. So I feel like an idiot but I know SOMETHING did just startle me...

Anyway, is there any terminology that fits these things? Is there maybe excercises or techniques to hone in on it?

[Cantando]

Originally Posted by laceyjade10

I am new to talking and discussing these subjects with other people.
I have felt different my whole life and out of place with the people I grew up with. ...

I have dreams that come true, but I don't control them. They come out of the blue and sometimes don't make sense for up to a couple of years... I dont know if I can read someone or necessarily tell their future. ...

Also, and this is weirder to talk about because none of this is provable, but I feel things around me. Spirits maybe. Its not all the time. It's just random. In a building, house, outside.. Nothing too distinct, just know I feel the presence...

I would go and see a doctor (seriously).
I know some posters on these forums might say, ‘Well done, you’re psychic, gifted, you should develop it', but if you are experiencing some of the following symptoms, you could be heading for a nervous breakdown. Delving in psychic and occult matters may actually precipitate the process.


(Extract from an article on wisegeek.com):

Those undergoing high levels of stress, for example after the death of a parent, spouse, or child, or who have been through a messy divorce are more likely to have a “nervous breakdown” if they are predisposed toward certain mental illnesses.

As well, even those who do not have a predisposition toward mental illness can have a nervous breakdown if they suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). PTSD can manifest years after a single traumatic event, and may be triggered by a situation that seems similar. With those who have undergone trauma, early counseling can help prevent a nervous breakdown.

Thus symptoms may differ for describing a nervous breakdown, but one can look for the following behaviors as possible symptoms that might precipitate a psychotic episode:

• Disinterest in work or family life
• Disinterest in social life or alienation from previously close friends and family
• Sleep disruption or much longer periods of sleep
• Significant changes in appetite, such as eating too little or too much
• Paranoid thoughts, such as the thought people are trying to harm you
• Thoughts of grandeur or invincibility
• Feelings of persistent anxiety or panic attacks
• Hearing voices
• Seeing people who are not there
• Thoughts of dying or wish to die
• Exhibiting strong or violent anger
• Having flashbacks to a prior traumatic event
• Increasing dependence on alcohol or drugs
• Inability to pursue a normal life, normal activities or normal relationships

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Get some real help. Don't be sucked down into a hell hole of delusion.
Take care.

[JSB]

While some of these things could be symptoms of schizophrenia, they could also be related to heightened "spiritual" or energetic sensitivity.

The only problem with seeing a doctor is that a psychiatrist will ALWAYS interpret these things as indications of mental illness, requiring medical treatment; their world-view doesn't include "heightened perceptions" or "paranormal" sensitivity, and therefore anything of this nature is considered pathological.

Most people who claim to receive messages or talk to disembodied spirits probably ARE suffering from schizophrenia, but not all of them are. The fact that your vivid dreams actually come true would make me think that you aren't suffering from any type of mental illness.

I, however, am not an expert. I am neither a psychiatrist, nor a psychic, so I'm afraid I can't help you much.

If it were me, I'd want to get in touch with someone who'd gone through similar experiences, but I might tend to avoid some of the overly "woo woo" psychics.

(I enjoy reading Erin's posts because she writes about weird, "out there" things in a down-to-earth kind of way, whereas some other psychics come across spaced out and dreamy, like they're tripping on acid 24/7.)

[Cantando]

Originally Posted by JSB

While some of these things could be symptoms of schizophrenia, they could also be related to heightened "spiritual" or energetic sensitivity.

The only problem with seeing a doctor is that a psychiatrist will ALWAYS interpret these things as indications of mental illness, requiring medical treatment ...

The symptoms quoted are possible ones that may lead to a psychotic episode. They may not be symptoms of schizophrenia.

The danger is that an overly sensitive person may literally believe everything they are experiencing as reality (encouraged by some who subscribe to those beliefs). They may open up dark areas of their psyche which begin to overwhelm them and jeopardize their sanity.

In the first instance, I would recommend seeking medical help. The causes could even be physical. I read of a case once where a woman believed she was seeing devils around her all the time. When a doctor examined her, he discovered that she had a problem with her vision. After an operation on her eyes, she ceased to see the 'devils'.

BTW, many doctors are actually quite sympathetic and understanding, and have natural gifts themselves for healing, apart from what they have learned at medical college.

[amixa]

no no no.
ok. so while i do suggest ok go get a physical and let them know in general what you're feeling..

if you've had such vivid dreams.. chances are you are NOT schizophrenic. I grew up thinking I was potentially schizophrenic because it wasn't 'normal'. luckily i told my doctor things and he said he didn't think i was schizophrenic.
Being able to sense that much about people has nothing to do with schizophrenia. It is absolutely harmful for you to start thinking that things like ghosts and spirits do not exist because it is harmful to close yourself off from your spiritual side.

if they do send you to a psychotherapist make sure its a GOOD one. by that i mean.. make sure that they're right for you.. that they are spiritual. atheist psychotherapists will tell you you are just thinking 'magical thought' and completely lead you to feel as if this world is the ultimate reality. This is not true and you feel it. Do not go against how you feel.

I've gone through a nervous breakdown -- it was hell.. but I definitely did not because of feeling the things I do.. it was due to the fact that I closed myself down from my spiritual side and I could not deal with this world as being 'absolute reality'
people may say 'oh you're weak for 'needing' this other world to exist' but you are not. again. you have felt these things your whole life. you are not necessarily about to go schizophrenic.

i'm not dismissing the possibility because i don't know you and this is a forum, but i do have my own experience thinking i might have been schizophrenic because of my abilities and experiences. do go get checked, but also ask to be 'awakened' not to someone else but to your spirit guide.. read up on erin's blog and see if you can relate.you don't have to agree with everything but it may help you recognize other things. also explore the forum more to past postings for other things as well.
a book that helped me realize i was in the wrong direction was 'memories, dreams and reflections' by c.g. jung.
peace.

[Cantando]

Originally Posted by amixa

no no no.
ok. so while i do suggest ok go get a physical and let them know in general what you're feeling..

I have read most of Erin's posts since joining this forum in March, last year and I do relate to a lot of what she describes, having had some similar experiences myself.

The point I am trying to make is that if a person is very sensitive, fragile and suffering from any kind of stress, then the last thing they should be doing is opening up their psyche or subconscious to experience the 'spirit world'.

I know this from experience. Twenty or so years ago, I had a strong interest in hypnosis and discovered that I could hypnotize friends and family members quite easily and get them to do silly things. Well, I met a girl in London, a few days before I was due to fly out to the Middle East to start a new job and we got on really well and I told her about my interest in hypnosis.

She seemed interested and asked to be hypnotized. I half heartedly showed her and she went under immediately. We had some interesting experiences. She seemed to know things about me and my family, which I had not told her about. She would suddenly go into different characters/personalities and even spoke French, which she had never spoken before and another language which sounded like Japanese. We were amazed by this and thought it was all good fun.

However, over the next few days, she kept phoning me saying she was afraid, saying that the devil was waiting outside her apartment for her. I went round several times to calm her, but her condition got worse. I eventually took her to a church, which she said her guide had directed her to, and asked a priest to exorcise her.

She seemed to improve and looked OK when I flew out to my new job. However, after a few days I found out that she had relapsed and had a breakdown and been admitted to hospital. I felt very guilty, but I was 1,200 miles away. I also found out that she had suffered from some stress related conditions previously. She eventually recovered and is more or less back to normal. It was very scary and I was completely out of my depth.

So, all I am advising is – be careful, don't go into these things lightly, your very sanity is at stake.

[laceyjade10]

OK, I totally regret posting this. I am going to figure out how to delete it. But, until then...
Thanks for all the medical advice.
However, I dont feel anywhere near a nervous or emotional breakdown. I was just happy and sort of emotional when I first started reading here on this forum and saw so many people actually thought about things and talked about things on a different and deeper level and was curious as I am..I live in an area that I do not run into many like-minded individuals. In fact, I never have.
I will not be going to a psychotherapist...Ridiculous.
I mean, what do I say, "I have dreams that come true.." Their answer is probably sleeping pills or some other sort of narcotic. I dont put my body on any medication unless it's antibiotics or something absolutely necessary.
And, even though there are things I see and dont understand. I have had dreams and premontions that I would have hate to have been sedated or under any narcotic influence and lost those.
One "feeling" saved my sanity when I was a teen. Long story, and I'm definetly not telling it, but I know it's the truth.
Another time I had a reoccouring dream my mom was in a wreck. My parents actually took me serious. My dad welded in an extra strap attachment for my brothers car seat. (This was back when carseats and cars weren't as good as they are now and most kids didnt ride in carseats after they were babies) I faked sick to stay home from school one morning because the dream had been so strong that day, and also told my mom about my dream again. She actually seemed to take me serious that day and double checked my little brother's carseat. I felt sick all morning but not from being ill. It was from worry. 4 hours later my Nani came and got me because my mom had been in a wreck and was in ICU. My little brother's life was saved because he was belted in so well but his face was mutilated from the glass shards. He underwent 7 plastic surgeries and my mom was hospitalized for 9 mo. w/a hip replacement and steel plates put in her pelvis along with almost 15 other broken bones. Now my brother is becomming a phsyical therapist and my mom is an Occupational therapist, because their lives were so touched by the people they had to get to know so well, that helped rehabilitat them. I do feel in my soul that they would have died that day if they hadnt made all the safety adjustments.
My biological father and I dont talk very often, maybe every few years, if that. About 4 years ago I had a very vivid dream that I had a daughter but she was 3 and her name was Jordan. I didn't birth her, and she came with the name, but the dream had that "real" quality that all the ones do that turn out to mean something. I told my mom about it the next morning and her reply was simply, "Please dont have any more kids, 2 boys are enough." Well, about 6 months later I called my dad for the 1st time in years. His crackhead girlfriend answered and said that she was sitting on the couch with my little sister, Jordan, who was 2. I almost dropped the phone. I feel the universe, or whatever it is, told me about Jordan, to burden my soul because I was lucky enough not to grow up in my dad's crazy, abusive, white-trash lifestyle. Jordan not only has too, that but even her mom is in and out of jail for crack.I feel it is my responsibility to try and keep contact to show for some reason. Her birthday is even the same day as mine (capricorn)..Earlier this week my dad's other girlfriend (btw, he has 2) e-mailed me and told me that Jordan may be put in foster care if I dont tell CPS that I am her sister and will take her, because my dad is going to jail for almost killing her...??
I know all that sounds crazy to ya'll, but I will not be put on drugs because the things I do get and understand are worth all the things I get that I dont...I just wanted to see what other's thought besides needing medication..
Thanks

[Erin Pavlina]

I don't think you're crazy at all. I'm one who sides with the psychic camp. I think people were mostly responding to your emotional state. Don't worry about that. When i had my first astral projection I thought I was going nuts. I wish I had had the courage, confidence and authority to believe in my abilities back then.

[theknightwhosaysni-NI]

Hi laceyjade,

I saw two things in your first post :

-The facts : you're having premonition dreams and you feel things (I am not saying if they are true or not here, just stating the fact that you see those things)

-Your emotional reaction to these facts : "I'm about to cry", "am I crazy or what".

I agree with Erin that the answers seem directed at the emotional reaction.

People (inlcluding me) tend to take more seriously the psychics who have a down to earth approach and who are not to much emotional about paranormal things. But of course, if you have hardly ever spoken about that before, it may be normal to freak out a little.

[amixa]

Originally Posted by theknightwhosaysni-NI

Hi laceyjade,

I saw two things in your first post :

-The facts : you're having premonition dreams and you feel things (I am not saying if they are true or not here, just stating the fact that you see those things)

-Your emotional reaction to these facts : "I'm about to cry", "am I crazy or what".

I agree with Erin that the answers seem directed at the emotional reaction.

People (inlcluding me) tend to take more seriously the psychics who have a down to earth approach and who are not to much emotional about paranormal things. But of course, if you have hardly ever spoken about that before, it may be normal to freak out a little.

Ya, its the emotional state that made me think she might want to go get checked just in case. It sounded like she was panicking -- which can be normal as you said but its because she mentioned schizophrenia that makes you think twice about just saying 'you're ok'.
Lacey if you didn't post with that emotional state I think myself and others would have reacted differently.

[ellie]

Hmmm why is it laceyjade10 seems to have a number of people suggesting that she needs to go to a dr? I've seen so many posts in these forums similar to this and haven't really seen anyone suggest getting psychiatric help, rather people have helped others accept their gift. I looked back at a few of lacey's post and another thread suggested some of the symtoms could also be schizophrenia. I see nothing in her post that suggests that she has a mental illness.

I think it sounds pretty amazing, or sometimes the mind is tricked, but seriously does she really need a pysc consult? Don't freak her out more. I think she needs some more encouragement from people with similar experiences as her own. I think anyone who sees strange phenomenons, would be a bit freaked out, it's only natural, especially if you have been brought up in a religious upbringing, which tells you seeing and hearing things are bad.

[Cantando]

Originally Posted by ellie

Hmmm why is it laceyjade10 seems to have a number of people suggesting that she needs to go to a dr?

Well, for a start, to check if there are any physical or environmental reasons why she sounded stressed out, and the tone of her OP suggested, to me anyway, that she was possibly headed for emotional overload (perhaps I interpreted that incorrectly, and if I did, I apologize).

If you read what I wrote, I neither suggested she had schizophrenia or mental illness. I said that if anyone exhibited some of those listed symptoms, they might be heading towards a psychotic episode (i.e. a nervous breakdown).

In the UK, we can go to our GP to discuss any physical, emotional or mental related problem. The doctors my family have had recent experience with are open, sympathetic and understanding. They actually try to avoid prescribing medication. They want to help. They ask questions about your lifestyle, job, relationships, etc, to see if there are any possible causes there.

If there is a problem, and it is out of their scope, they will suggest a referral to someone more experienced. Usually, they suggest the sort of thing you would hear about on this forum – go to the country, get some fresh air, take up a hobby or sport, etc.

Again, to reiterate my point – if someone is showing symptoms of anxiety disorder or emotional overload, the last thing they need is to be encouraged in opening up their psyche/subconscious even more to the stuff which might be causing the anxiety or stress in the first place.

[pianoperformer]

I really agree with Cantando. It could be psychic abilities, or it might be something else. Nothing should really be ruled out. No one is saying you should have to go on medication, jus tmake sure that everything is OK.

also, don't jump to conclusions. it can be exciting to come up with a paranormal explanation for everything, but don't automatically jump to that conclusion. If you have a dream, write it down, with every detail you can think of, and the date on which you had the dream. if later it comes true, write that down with the date, and compare the details.

Often, with people who think they have predictive dreams, they have either thought incorrectly that the dream was before the event, when it was really after, or else embellish the details of the dreem to fit the event. I'm not saying you would do this consciously, but the brain makes connections between whatever it can, so it might think there is more there than there actually is. Further, memory has been shown to be rather faulty and unreliable, no matter how certain you think you are of its correctness. However, if you write everything down, you have a good record of what actually happened, and can look at it objectively.

I don't say this to try to disprove what you have experienced. I just think that if you truly want to know what is going on, you should try to prove it to yourself without a shadow of a doubt, so that you know it cannot be explained by anything else.

[frajilthunder]

In my experience, people who have the presence of mind to worry if they are schizophrenic, aren't. Schizophrenics are more likely to worry that the rest of the world is crazy because it doesn't agree with their delusions.

I have zero psychic ability, but I imagine if I did, I would seriously wonder about my sanity. I do live in a podunk town though, and can sympathize with you not having anyone around to talk about your situation. Please don't let the reaction you got in this thread keep you away from this place, where you can interact with folks who are in the same boat as you.

Enjoy the ride!

[Old Soul]

I found this on the net the other day, I found it quite interesting!

Spiritual Emergence/Emergency by Paul Levy

Spiritual Emergence/
Emergency
by Paul Levy

Spiritual Emergence/
Emergency
by Paul Levy

In 1981 I was sitting in meditation when, just for an instant, a bolt of lightning flashed through my mind. I began acting so unlike my normal self that a friend brought me to a hospital, afraid I was going crazy. Though I was released after three days, the experiences that began to unfold were so overwhelming that I was hospitalized a number of other times during that first year. I was diagnosed as having had a severe psychotic break and was told that I had a chemical imbalance and manic-depressive illness. I was put on lithium and, at times, haldol (an anti-psychotic). I was told I would have to live with my illness for the rest of my life.

I consider myself one of the lucky ones, as I was able to extricate myself from the medical/ psychiatric establishment, though not without difficulty. If the doctors were right, I was suffering from psychosis. My own process of self-discovery eventually led me to a very different conclusion, and, given the choice, I would rather be judged sane by my own diagnosis than insane by the doctors. And so begins my story.

[tinkerbell]

I'm not a doctor or know anything about you, however, I appreciate you coming onto this forum and talking about it.

All of the Law of Attraction stuff, God, spirits, thinking positive all the time, letting the Universe handle it, it all makes us question our beliefs and one of the things that I've asked myself lots of times starting on this spiritual journey is "am I crazy?" lol. ( I still haven't answered that one yet!)lol

If you feel you need to get a doctors opinion, then go. If you are questioning your psychic abilities, then just appreciate them for what they are. The fact that you are on this forum means to me that you understand or are learning law of attraction and spiritual things.



tinkerbell

[freshwala]

i beg u, dont believe the hype, see a doctor, dont ruin ur life over fantasy.

[ellie]

Originally Posted by Old Soul

I found this on the net the other day, I found it quite interesting!

Spiritual Emergence/Emergency by Paul Levy

Spiritual Emergence/
Emergency
by Paul Levy

My dad went through pretty much the same experience, it's called bi-polar

What I do find facinating is people with mental illness, who are on these highs are able to do amazing things because they let go of all their inhibitions. My dad did things that he would of being able to do if he was in a normal state. The amount of friends he made on his highs were amazing. I think there is a lot to be learned from people that on "highs", I think it would be a facinating research area.

[Mato Kinze]

"The Schizophrenic is drowning in the waters the Mystic swims in with delight."

That phrase is becoming almost trite these days, but it illustrates - to me anyway - the difference between the two.

They call Shamans "The Wounded Healer" or "[He] who walks in two worlds."

The biggest difference between a Schizophrenic and a highly sensitive Shaman is the ability of the Shaman to keep perspective on which world he's walking in at any given moment and to not allow the one to exclude or even overly influence the other. Schizophrenics lose the ability to distinguish which world they're walking in and as a result get lost and unable to operate effectively in either.

The problem with forums such as this is that there's no way to tell from someone's post whether they are able to control their perspective or not. To encourage someone to explore this sensitivity without some kind of mentor, teacher, aid or protection is not necessarily the most responsible response. There are too many people who are legitimately hampered by their confusion. I for one, would hate to contibute to someone else's inability to cope with the line between the two worlds by giving unwarranted or ill-timed advice or encouragement.

[amixa]

well put mato

[Old Soul]

Originally Posted by ellie

My dad went through pretty much the same experience, it's called bi-polar

What I do find facinating is people with mental illness, who are on these highs are able to do amazing things because they let go of all their inhibitions. My dad did things that he would of being able to do if he was in a normal state. The amount of friends he made on his highs were amazing. I think there is a lot to be learned from people that on "highs", I think it would be a facinating research area.

I , while under what the shrinks call a manic episode put myself in a shelter for a week, the wildest thing is, while I was at this womens shelter... MET some of thee most beautiful authentic souls I have ever met.... These women had nothing!! they were raw, broken but at the same time they were so real!!! these ladies showed me just by their being, how pretentiousness is so blinding to real love which led to my first real ephinay of just how our minds and all our filters of labeling and discreminations and prejudices seperate us all.....

when you are manic, you are "open" your filters do disolve.... and you see the world through a pure state .. everything is one..you are one with everything........ and you are totally alive, there is no labels no prejudice none of the ego filters are there .... it is awsome

but you can never go back to the person you use to be , you are changed forever after an experience like this............
I think your dad would understand exactly what I am saying

[mncz]

Dear laceyjade,
As Mato so nicely put it, mental illness and psychic abilities are two sides of the same coin, and it is you who makes the difference - by choosing to align with fear or with love when you go through these experiences. The further you align with fear, the closer you are to insanity or your abilities ruling over you. The further you align with love, the closer you are to mastering your psychical abilities.

I strongly believe that if you try your best to stay aware and project love during these dreams/coincidences (forgot the better word), you will gain amazing insights about how your gift can be used for good. It demands a lot of courage and will to not to bend to selfishness, egocentrism and fear. You cannot cheat the universe - if you have fear or negativity inside you, it will be mercilessly pulled out for you to release it or submit to it, because that is how you learn. But if you manage to understand and unconditionally accept yourself, you will gain a truly wonderful gift. If you choose to ignore it and live a "normal" life, you will be reminded about it again and again, until you can not avoid facing who you truly are anymore (this has happened to me, so I know ).

I understand that you are in a lot of confusion right now, but you should always remember that you have chosen your life lessons yourself. You have come here consciously to experience everything you experience, including your dreams. They are not supposed to break you. They are supposed to make you stronger, wiser and more loving, and by holding this understanding and love in your mind, I am sure you will overcome this step to rise to a new level in your life.

[ellie]

Originally Posted by Old Soul

but you can never go back to the person you use to be , you are changed forever after an experience like this............
I think your dad would understand exactly what I am saying

I know exactly what you mean My dad is not the same as he once was, even though he back to a normal state. He seems a lot more confident (maybe too confident) and unafraid of what people think.

[Old Soul]

and unafraid of what people think.

oh wow!! That is exactly my feelings, I really do not care what people think, it is like I have found my place and i am very comfortable in my skin .... something I had never experienced prior..... how cool is that!!!! I really do not care what people think of me, but I do care very much that i do not say or do anything to hurt or embaress them. my kids always say don't worry mom your fine!! ie) I went to a girls night out my daughter and step daughter and my sons girlfriend we went dancing and had some drinks, so I was ripping up the dance floor to some hip hop, lol So I asked them if i was embaressing them ( after all i am 50) but they all said no way have a good time... but they said i was not suppose to dance hip hop better than they did lol

it was great!!! we had alot of fun

it is almost like you have been ripped through the jaws of a lion and came out a better stronger person in your inner child.....

I think your father and I would have much to share on the topic :-)

[Zwynd]

Originally Posted by laceyjade10

When I was a kid I had a dream that was so vivid I wrote it down. I dreamt that a big passenger airplane crashed into the back of our pasture bursting into flames. I ran out to see if I could possibly save anyone, but the plane was obliterated. But some luggage had photos instead of nametags. ( how luggage survived, I dont know) I saw two different vivid photos that stuck in my mind. Almost ten years later, 9/11 happened. A couple of weeks after 9/11 I watched a show on the plane that had crashed in a field that day, and they showed some photos of the people on the plane.

Interesting. I too had a dream about the 9/11 incident on the same morning. In fact, while I was still dreaming my mother ran to my room and said "The World Trade Center just got hit by a plane! Come and see the news."

And I remember saying, "I know, mom" and attempted to go back to sleep. I was in that state of understanding that there was nothing I could physically do to help and that was "Alright" for me.

However, my mother did drag me out of bed anyways. >.<

Anyway, is there any terminology that fits these things? Is there maybe excercises or techniques to hone in on it?

It's called being you. The only technique is to listen to yourself. You're obviously doing something right so keep at it. Keep to a dream journal and sit back with your thoughts. Don't freak if you see bad things happen. It's there to help you adjust for what's to come.

Sure it -could- possibly be stopped in time, but you don't have to kill yourself trying to get to the other end of the world to try and stop what may just be the inevitable calamity you've no chance of changing.

And honestly, don't use labels. They will only restrict you and your dreaming as you may try to dream up disasters every night to predict them yet forget about careless dreams that are just there for fun and growth.

[Old Soul]

Interesting. I too had a dream about the 9/11 incident on the same morning

I had a dream about the old testement prophet Daniel the night prior 911
in the dream Daniel was in chains , and he believed he was going mad from the visions God had been giving him ...

[jsam]

Dear Laceyjade10, and others;
I think it is significant that your post was placed in the "spiritual" category when it might have been in the "psychic" one.

I would like to share some understanding from a wonderful life of eighty years.

After growing up devoted to Science, and concerned that the materialist atheists might be right, I began to have precognitive dreams and other paranormal experiences. My intellect could not fit them with what I believed to be "reality", yet I could not dismiss them as purely imaginary, so I put them in a catagory of "unexplained phenomena". Later in life, I met and married a woman who was a "psychic", and started the Parapsychology Society International. Met many leaders in that field, and paranormal events happened more frequently. I believe that the paranormal experiences happened to me in order to break down and expand my concepts of "reality" and of the person I thought I was. Eventually I had a traumatic breakdown of my self and world, and there were other shattering events besides the psychic stuff that led me to the Event. I worked through my transformation by myself, knowing that medical people would only bring me back to my old self and concepts. After a few days and nights, I (as ego) surrendered completely, and the experience people call "enlightenment" happened. Since that time, thirty years ago, I have enjoyed life with out fear, anxiety, and wanting. I only wish everyone could be in this condition, which is the true state of all people, but hidden by the beliefs that we all aquire growing up.

That said, (which I have kept secret all these years) let me give you my opinion on the questions raised in this forum; of course, my opinion may be wrong; enlightenment does not necessarily bring one a brilliant intellect or verbal wisdom.

I believe the "high Self", "Christ spirit", "Krishna", guardian angel,
"Awareness", whatever you want to call our guiding forces, brings to one experiences that may crack the walls of one's mental shell of belief. This may be necessary to prepare one for a spiritual awakening. Some ego's use psychic abilities, which are never controllable by us humans, to impress other people and get some sort of fame, or at least attention. They can be a drag or dead-end on one's spiritual path. The ego-self wants to use anything to its advantage for its ego-growth. I have known people (such as my former wife) who alllow psychic phenomena for the purpose of counselling people and opening their minds. Like most things, these phenomena can be used in a positive or negative way.

I do not believe paranormal experiences will necessarily lead to psychosis, but like any ego trip, can be abused and cause problems for the "psychic", or others. It is vitally important that those having these experiences keep their "feet on the ground" of our shared "reality" and back off if they feel threatened. Usually an ego will be afraid, and back off. A lot of psychological preparation is necessary before we explore the mysterious parts of our world experience.

Having experienced and successfully gone through a psychotic "breakdown" I believe these to be an opportunity for transformation, but are very dangerous, as most people are not adequately prepared, and wind up in very unpleasant personal "realities". I am sure that many people are gradually awakening and evolving, and reach "enlightened living" without having to go through the "dark night of the Soul". And be careful; what you seek, you will probably find.

How to get there? (Meaning- to discover who you are not)... Moderation in all things, constant self-observation, "follow your heart", be accepting and forgiving, and follow the guidance of Jesus, Buddha, Eckhart Tolle, J.Krishnamurti, or whatever your 'heart' (not your ego) resonates to.

Love, and Namaste'....John

[ellie]

Lovely post John.

Beautiful

[fellowtraveler]

Originally Posted by jsam

Dear Laceyjade10, and others;
I think it is significant that your post was placed in the "spiritual" category when it might have been in the "psychic" one...

jsam, please check your private messages.

[Satya Devi]

Hi everyone,

I think most important ideas have already been expressed very nicely by others. I especially liked mncz's and jsam's posts. I just wanted to make a point about schizophrenia. One of the symptoms of schizophrenia that occurs to some degree in all patients is "impaired insight." This means that patients don't even recognize that something is wrong or different. They think they're right and everyone else is wrong. So if someone is questioning or wondering whether they're sane or not, that likely means they're closer to the side of sanity. People who end up with schizophrenia often don't even consider that they are schizophrenic, and when others suggest it, they don't believe them.

I'll also add my opinion that Laceyjade10 does not seem to be disturbed at all. She seems to be a psychic and emotionally sensitive individual, which is difficult to be in today's world. I know when I become more aware or sensitive due to spiritual practices or fasting, it can be hard to handle at first.

My advice to anyone who thinks they're becoming psychic is to read as many books as they can find on the topic. There are many reputable psychics who've written excellent books. One caveat: some psychics have a narrow view and may insist that their view is the one correct view. These kinds of psychics should be avoided.

My recommendation for excellent reading is anything by Dr. Judith Orloff. She's a psychiatrist who also happens to be psychic. She discusses her own difficult experiences being psychic in her books, as well as how to handle being an emotional empath.

Her life story is "Second Sight."
Her book on using psychic intuition safely is "Dr. Judith Orloff's Guide to Intuitive Healing."
Her latest book is "Positive Energy." I highly recommend this one, because it talks about how we can create positive energy around ourselves to achieve health, peace, and spiritual goals.