the human world is binary...

[blazer1]

it is quite easy to break our universe down to two extremes. one would be negative, and, the other would be positive.

agree so far?

when you add positives in maths, they increase in value.

when you add two negatives, they decrease.

multiplication/division i have not yet worked out.

but the fundamental concept i am trying to convey is that our languages and expressions, such as maths, literature, living and being always expresses a negative and positive state.

perhaps life is the balance of the two extremes without ever becoming an extreme?

we know if we are too towards the positive side, it makes us weak to the negative side, which is inevitable. And likewise, the negative side speaks for itself.

if I was to translate this to practicle application ... then it would quickly point to the realisation that the positive side in you, the career ambitious, the ladies man, the great wife, or the great teacher is what the world perceives you as. it is your OWN negativity that brings about dissatisfaction that you are not what you yearn to be. This logic is full-proof because, if this were true then this means everyone else's positive side you see, even though that character may or may not be true, you will actually perceive as True. Because you have an inheritent nature of idolising people over yourself.

the point is, the imagined character you have of yourself, your Ego in other words, is what the people around you actually see you as.

you not believing in your own perception of what your aspirations are means you are being negative. others positiveness about you only is weaked by your negativity.

and it's the other minds around you which determine your outcome. we are a social creature afterall.

[Jarrod]

Originally Posted by blazer1

it is quite easy to break our universe down to two extremes. one would be negative, and, the other would be positive.

agree so far?

I don't really agree...

I don't feel like I live in a world of positive and negative. Yes in order to communicate I have to talk with positive and negative, it is the basis of communication.

But my life exists outside of positive and negative.

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by blazer1

it is quite easy to break our universe down to two extremes. one would be negative, and, the other would be positive.

agree so far?

when you add positives in maths, they increase in value.

when you add two negatives, they decrease.

multiplication/division i have not yet worked out.

but the fundamental concept i am trying to convey is that our languages and expressions, such as maths, literature, living and being always expresses a negative and positive state.

perhaps life is the balance of the two extremes without ever becoming an extreme?

we know if we are too towards the positive side, it makes us weak to the negative side, which is inevitable. And likewise, the negative side speaks for itself.

if I was to translate this to practicle application ... then it would quickly point to the realisation that the positive side in you, the career ambitious, the ladies man, the great wife, or the great teacher is what the world perceives you as. it is your OWN negativity that brings about dissatisfaction that you are not what you yearn to be. This logic is full-proof because, if this were true then this means everyone else's positive side you see, even though that character may or may not be true, you will actually perceive as True. Because you have an inheritent nature of idolising people over yourself.

the point is, the imagined character you have of yourself, your Ego in other words, is what the people around you actually see you as.

you not believing in your own perception of what your aspirations are means you are being negative. others positiveness about you only is weaked by your negativity.

and it's the other minds around you which determine your outcome. we are a social creature afterall.

Don't forget those who are seeing you as the ego you present are also seeing you through their ego. Mind boggling !!

I believe life is expressed by the extremes of positive and negative and everything else in between. The whole spectrum.

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by Jarrod

I don't really agree...

I don't feel like I live in a world of positive and negative. Yes in order to communicate I have to talk with positive and negative, it is the basis of communication.

But my life exists outside of positive and negative.

Do you mean you do not experience positive or negative within your life or that you do not judge anything as positive or negative?

[AuspiciousEight]

Originally Posted by blazer1

it is quite easy to break our universe down to two extremes. one would be negative, and, the other would be positive.

agree so far?

It can be said that there are certain things and people which are naturally supportive of life, , and that there are things and people which are naturally destructive to life.

If this is what you're referring to, then I agree.

Originally Posted by blazer1

when you add positives in maths, they increase in value.

when you add two negatives, they decrease.

multiplication/division i have not yet worked out.

Addition and subtraction isn't a very good comparison to spiritual energy levels.

One genuinely happy, loving, and compassionate person can easily undo the negativity of hundreds or thousands, as they are quite immune to it. I mean, Jesus and Buddha still have billions of followers. Even today their positive energy is undoing 'negativity'.

Originally Posted by blazer1

but the fundamental concept i am trying to convey is that our languages and expressions, such as maths, literature, living and being always expresses a negative and positive state.

Agreed, although it needs some further clarification.

Originally Posted by blazer1

perhaps life is the balance of the two extremes without ever becoming an extreme?

we know if we are too towards the positive side, it makes us weak to the negative side, which is inevitable. And likewise, the negative side speaks for itself.

Sorry, I can't agree with this. If you lean enough to the 'positive' side, it makes you quite immune to the 'negative'. On the contrary, if you lean too far to the negative side, it just makes you weak as your running away from life itself.

Originally Posted by blazer1

Because you have an inheritent nature of idolising people over yourself.

Inheritent? Perhaps you're referring to inherit.

At any rate. Some people have this nature. For others it's quite the opposite.

Then there are others who idolize no person.

Originally Posted by blazer1

the point is, the imagined character you have of yourself, your Ego in other words, is what the people around you actually see you as.

you not believing in your own perception of what your aspirations are means you are being negative. others positiveness about you only is weaked by your negativity.

and it's the other minds around you which determine your outcome. we are a social creature afterall.

If you allow other people to determine who you are and what you do, then this may be true for you.

In the grand scheme of things, this is quite false. Your ego is always of your own choosing.

To say that you are completely made up of the people around you is simply a scapegoat that people generally use so they can blame someone else for what they chose and who they are.

God Bless,

[Jarrod]

Originally Posted by Maguru

Do you mean you do not experience positive or negative within your life or that you do not judge anything as positive or negative?

It's actually quite mind-boggling for me to try and express.

The easy part, I don't think of things as inherently positive or negative. Consequently I don't judge like that.

When I see something, I know how I should act (through intuition if you like) in regards to what is going on. That is how I try to live, but thoughts and emotions often distract me from living like this.

Does that make sense to you?

[blazer1]

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[blazer1]

Originally Posted by Maguru

Don't forget those who are seeing you as the ego you present are also seeing you through their ego. Mind boggling !!

I believe life is expressed by the extremes of positive and negative and everything else in between. The whole spectrum.

this is why i wrote:

"This logic is full-proof because, if this were true then this means everyone else's positive side you see, even though that character may or may not be true, you will actually perceive as True. Because you have an inheritent nature of idolising people over yourself.
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and also:

I believe life is expressed by the extremes of positive and negative and everything else in between. The whole spectrum.

perhaps life is the balance of the two extremes without ever becoming an extreme?

[Remiel]

I see life more like floating point numbers than binary. The floating point number range is uncountably infinite. That is if I ask for all possibilities between 0 and 1 you can't give them to me. No matter what two numbers I pick in the floating point world there is always something inbetween.

There's another slight issue I have. How can ONE trait be both positive and negative at the same time? To one person its positive to another person it is negative.

As I see it the human world is far from binary. It is uncountably infinite (Ironically this is one of my issues with evolution).