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Keena · 11-06-2009, 04:44 PM

Yossarian, thanks for starting this thread! Because of it I was intrigued enough to get the book. It has been mind-blowing!

I "knew" all of the stuff in it before from previous reading - except for the process - but this book made it all "click", like the puzzle pieces were in the right places before but not interlocked. And now they are.

I have noticed some interesting things though - stuff Robert says this new model is NOT about - but if you read carefully it really is. For example, on his website he says it is not about visualization. Technically, no. However, visualization is an imaginitive process - and so is The Process. And he says, it's not about affirmations, and yet The Process is a gigantic affirmation!

Anyway, fascinating and amazing book. I really enjoyed it and am actually re-reading it. My egg reclamation has been on lots of different things - emotional, mental and physical. A lot of stuff around my cranky boss (who now makes me smile and even laugh when I think about all the eggs I'm busting because of her!) and it's even been working on my allergies. Sweet! Just about anything that comes up that I am resisting in any way I am applying the Process to - and it works. The weird stuff started showing up nearly immediately, too. Yesterday, I was typing up a report and when I read what I wrote - it wasn't what I wrote - or thought I wrote. Getting a lot more synchronicities. And I only started Phase 2 2 days ago!

For all of you who are having difficulty with the aloneness part, check out Scheinfeld's website - BUSTING LOOSE From The Money Game - he had a dream about the "sparks" and how they interact. The audio is called "others". Scheinfeld states in one part that if he goes out with his wife for dinner - they are together in their respective similar holograms but each not only has their own universe (hologram) but also plays the part they play in the other's hologram. So, for instance you would have your experience in which your partner plays the part they need to play to support you in your Game, and at the same time the partner has their own experience in which you play the part you need to play to support them in their Game.

Anyone see this week's episode of Supernatural? Laughed the whole way through the Trickster's Game Show illusions!

Blessings,
Keena

Keena · 11-06-2009, 04:52 PM

For those of you who have been in Phase 2 for awhile - could you please comment about how your hologram has changed? How are you "popping things into your hologram" that you want to play with?

Those who quit their jobs - how did that go with the abundance? Did you find yourself being tempted into Phase 1 thinking at all? Did all the supporting players pop into your hologram as predicted?

Thanks!
Keena

impaul99 · 11-07-2009, 08:20 AM

Just bought the eBook from the Sony Reader store so I can read it on my digital reader.

Unfortunately, the battery is dead on it at the moment so I have to wait until it recharges before I can download it on there and read it.

I have no idea what all these eggs everyone is talking about are, but I guess I will soon enough.

Sound like a very interesting concept.

The reason I bought this book is because this morning I asked my guides to help me have a "Quantum Leap" in my growth today. Without mentioning this word to anyone, 3 different people with 3 different products/processes have used that word today - one of which was the Tour of this book on Robert's website.

I'm following all 3 things. Can't wait to read this book.

The most I've ever manifested was about $430k in a few months using Law of Attraction. I wonder what I'll be able to manifest after this book.

Keena · 11-07-2009, 07:29 PM

I think it may result in a quantum leap! It sure did for me - but everyone is different. I'll be awaiting your comments after reading it!

Blessings,
Keena

impaul99 · 11-08-2009, 12:43 AM

Just finished reading the book.

Firstly, I'll congratulate the author in that I didn't stop reading the book until it was finished. Having read over a thousand books in the last 15+ years, it's not very often I do that with books anymore. Most of the time I put books down and then come back to them later.

Anyway, after finishing the book it kind of reminded me of The Power of Now combined with A Course in Miracles with a little bit of Subjective Reality stuff from Steve Pavlina.

Much of what he wrote in the book I've experienced already in my life as well. It seems I may have been unconsciously starting to move into Phase 2 without even realizing it.

For example, beliefs such as "You must provide value in order to make money" have been shattered in my life on a few occasions. For example, I've gone through periods of time where I've put in so much effort and provided so much value for everyone involved (customers, employees, shareholders etc.) yet I was compensated very poorly - often times less than most of the other employees who weren't creating nearly as much value. Then, at other times when I was just relaxed and not really too concerned about trying to provide value, my compensation skyrocketed.

The cause/effect of "provide value" leads to "make more money" seems like a believable theory at first, but it hasn't been what I've experienced to be true in real life.

Not to say that I don't want to provide value - I'm just saying that one doesn't necessary cause the other according to my life experience.

Most of the other beliefs challenged in the book - which is pretty much EVERYTHING from Phase 1 thinking - are similar as well. The one thing I couldn't put my finger on before reading this book was what the "truth" was.

The challenge was that everything was inconsistent when living in a Phase 1 world.

It wasn't until reading this book that I realized that trying to "figure out" Phase 1 is pointless as it was designed to not be figured out.

If your intention is to "Create an illusion world that I can't even figure out the rules to", then there is no point trying to figure out the rules. It's simply easier to change your intention in the first place.

I still need to fully digest what I just read, but there are definitely a lot of answers in this book that I've been looking for, for a while.

Especially the concept of not needing to worry about planning or creating or manifesting abundance, but rather simply just stripping away the illusion of lack, and abundance will just appear automatically like getting rid of clouds exposes the sun automatically.

I think I may finally have understood this concept at a deeper level, although I'll admit my mind still hasn't grasped it. A part of me still wants to go plan something.

I wonder in what ways we can use this forum to help each-other (really, ourselves) get in more alignment with Phase 2.

impaul99 · 11-09-2009, 06:54 AM

So far, here's something rather "weird" that happened this morning after reading the book.

I sat down to pay our bills this morning. I do all my bills online.

I went through my spreadsheet and added up the payments I needed to make, and it came out to just over $1,000 in payments.

Then, I logged into my bank account and something weird happened. My credit card had an extra $1,000 in "room" on it than I was expecting. I can't really explain it. I'm an affiliate marketer so I make several large payments on my card per week and I make charges to it almost daily, but I usually keep a pretty good tab of how much room I have on there at any given time since I'm in my accounts multiple times a day.

I swear that $1,000 worth of room wasn't there yesterday. It just kind of showed up this morning and exactly how much I needed to pay my bills. What I usually do is I pay my bills via Credit Card if they accept credit cards and then pay my card. That way I get points on my card.

Oh yeah, almost forgot. When I paid my bills I focused on expressing appreciation for each bill like the book said. Very different experience than what usually happens.

In fact, at the end of paying them all I almost felt like "That's it? Is that the last one? Awww..." which I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

What else has anyone experienced after reading this book?

Also, anyone read this book:

Amazon.com: Busting Loose From the Business Game: Mind-Blowing Strategies for Recreating Yourself, Your Team, Your Business, and Everything in Between (9780470453087): Robert Scheinfeld: Books

(Non-affiliate link btw)

Keena · 11-09-2009, 04:03 PM

Hi Paul,

Thanks for posting your thoughts and experiences so far - fascinating!
I love your c card wiggle room!

I haven't experienced anything like that yet. It's been a lot more subtle - more joy and laughter, more amusement, events happening that support my "wishes" (they haven't been intentions since I was trying to avoid wanting to change the hologram), more inner peace (and I had a lot to begin with!), and I'm more relaxed and going with the flow - really trying to do what inspires me and not what I feel I *should* do (a Phase 1 perspective). I have also experienced little "weird" things - things disappearing and then showing up, typing one thing and having another thing there, time "warps" where time seems to stop when you're "not looking" and seeming to have more time in general. Looking forward to the wiggle room on my ccard! LOL!

Blessings, Keena

Keena · 11-09-2009, 04:06 PM

Also, anyone read this book:

Amazon.com: Busting Loose From the Business Game: Mind-Blowing Strategies for Recreating Yourself, Your Team, Your Business, and Everything in Between (9780470453087): Robert Scheinfeld: Books

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You can get a download on Scheinfeld's website called the Conscious Business (I think!) - I think it's a little e-book intro to this book. It's BL applied to business and it's quite good.

I look forward to your review of the above business book.

Blessings, Keena

impaul99 · 11-09-2009, 10:41 PM

I'm trying to find the Business book in digital format, but it seems it's only available in Hard Cover.

Might need to actually get off my butt and drive to a bookstore and pick it up.

Has anyone read this book?

I'm definitely curious about the details of how to apply Phase II thinking to a business.

It's really cool because this guy built a $177 Million dollar business BEFORE even learning all this stuff, so he definitely knows what he's doing in business.

Tristan Bull · 11-10-2009, 10:04 AM

Cool was just had this pointed out to me, will probably pick up a copy tomorrow.

I'm interested in hearing thoughts about the world being an illusion.

Will have to read it, don't want to go through all the posts coz I don't like spoilers! lol

LoveGoddess · 11-15-2009, 08:25 AM

Thanks for starting this thread Yossarian and special thanks to Angela for the highly informative posts. I just finished reading 'Busting Loose...' cover to cover in the past few days and like a few of you, much of it was familiar but packaged in a way that I truly appreciate.

So, after I finished reading and committed to Phase 2 here's the weird thing that happened to me...

10 minutes later our VCR broke (remember those?). My husband was trying to tape something and got very frustrated (one of my eggs is 'his' frustration with technical glitches) and yup, I got frustrated with his frustration and it quickly escalated. Of course, while it was going on I KNEW that it was all my creation and I quickly brought down the escalation and he immediately went into his fabulous 'let's fix this mode'- still, I was feeling the burn of our interaction. He walked out the door with the VCR under his arm and I immediately went to the book and did my first 'Process' which took all of 5 minutes. I got the hit to call the Electronics Store and leave a msg for my husband to call me when he got there and they immediately put him on the line. Now, that was crazy because he had just walked out the door and there was NO WAY that he could have gotten there so quickly (we live in a busy part of Chicago, just finding parking can take awhile).

He asked me with great wonder "How did you know I was already here?"- I couldn't really answer that of course. No kidding, 10 minutes later (!) he was back home with a beautiful used VCR (I didn't even know they still sold them)- and a lovely young man to quickly install it in our complicated system. New, the machine was $300- but it 'cost' us 50 bucks. And my husband was my hero who made all this happen in the blink of an eye.

Here's the other crazy thing- I did the Matrix Energetics seminar last Spring. I'm not sure exactly what an avatar is (Angela referred to them and I'm very intrigued but what she meant) but in ME you can have one show up. Well, mine did. And it turned out to be a rather large, rather garish Easter Bunny. This is crazy on two levels- one, I'm Jewish. Two, Easter is really nothing to me - despite being Jewish, Christmas is the holiday I adore most in the year (I just love everything about the lights, good cheer and volunteerism etc. and I know every song in Midnight Mass having sung in lotsa churches in my life)

So I was pretty surprised to have my very own Easter Bunny communicating with me in helpful albeit sometimes funny and sarcastic tones.

I read this book and it's all about reclaiming power from 'eggs'. My EB is flipping with hilarity about this so-called coincidence.

Well, this is my introduction- I'm writing a book of my own so don't know how much I'll be online but I just wanted to say 'Hidy Ho' to all of you and it's way cool to have others who are trying this on themselves since aside from one of my business partners, I don't know anyone else who has committed to Phase 2 (and she just committed last week so she's pretty new altho already money has been flying at her from out of the blue- she's an ME practitioner so already has a lot of practice in the Zero-Point Field. btw, this book was the ONLY resource recommended by Richard Bartlett, the developer and teacher of Matrix Energetics. What I'm loving about this book is that it's taking a big part of that seminar and putting it into a step by step process format which really appeals to me. And it's a lot less than the 600 bucks plus travel and hotel that I paid for the seminar (altho just to be fair, I had a BALL at that seminar and am sooo glad I went.)

Please forgive the wordy intro- I guess I could have just said "Hi, I'm Juli aka the LoveGoddess" and left it at that.

But I'm reclaiming power from the egg of needing to hide myself so I don't attract too much unwanted attention.

:-)

A story I'm definitely up for breaking loose from given that I'm well, writing a book...

Thanks again everyone- cannot wait to read more about all of your experiences applying the Process.

Juli
Developer and Teacher of the
p.s. A question for anyone who knows...what's a Trackback and how does one use it?

Angela · 11-15-2009, 02:21 PM

Hi, Juli, and welcome! I'm so happy to meet you!

An avatar, the way I've been using that word, is one of those aspects of your expanded self that we normally call "people" or "others" or "your husband" or "Angela" or even your primary-focus avatar, "Juli." All the actors you have cast in the illusion you've created, all saying and doing things you (your expanded self, I mean) create them as saying and doing.

I love Easter, too. And I am sure not religious! I love symbolism of rebirth, new beginnings, fresh starts, all of the colors and animals and chocolate and sex that make up Easter. Also the Easter humor -- some of my favorite jokes are Easter jokes.

And I love your helpful, funny, sarcastic Easter Bunny!

I hope you have a wonderful time here, when you're taking a break from writing your fabulous book. Looking forward to reading it very much.

Lots of love,
Angela

OlderWiser · 11-19-2009, 06:50 AM

I've been a member of this community for a while, but don't post a lot. In fact, I haven't even come around much in recent months for various reasons, but lately I sort of felt drawn or something. I don't know why, can't really explain it.

For whatever reason, I landed in this thread (and checked out a couple others on the same topic), and I was so intrigued that I ordered the book. It was shipped today, will probably take a week to ten days to get here (to Australia), maybe a bit longer, and then I'll certainly be reading it. Judging by the content of this and other threads, it's all stuff I already "know" but haven't been able to pull together effectively, so I'm hoping the book will help with that.

I've made some big paradigm shifts already on my own, so I'm looking forward to seeing what this book brings about for me.

I'm glad I didn't just rely on the reviews on Amazon for this... There's one person (avatar?) whose life purpose appears to be posting derogatory comments on any positive review of this book! LOL! What a strange game...

beatnix · 12-23-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Angela

Hey, Lodestar --- I remember a bit where he's talking about that: "why would you want to reclaim your power from a beautiful sunset?" It only makes sense to reclaim your power from an egg of discomfort, and enjoy the eggs you enjoy. So it sounds like you're pretty much in Phase II!

I remember the paragraph about the sunset, too. I was wondering – does the same apply for a pleasant visualization, even though it’s a Phase 1 tool? Even if it isn’t working – at least it makes you feel good.

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Originally Posted by Excellent Lodestar

I quit my job last week---without a net. Let's see how phase 2 I am now! Oddly, I'm not scared...I won't say I'm Thrilled about it either, but If this would have happened before BL, I'd have been freaking out right now.

It's been one and a half years since you wrote this. How did you get on? I am going to quit my job soon, too. I’ll see how I’ll cope with the eggs…

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Originally Posted by Excellent Lodestar

That's one take away I got from BL: That ultimately, nothing can hurt us, ever.(just like the Plastic bag scene at the end Of "American Beauty")

Thanks for reminding me of that scene

billionairekid · 12-24-2009, 12:18 PM

I'm interested in picking up this book but I have one restraint that is holding me back. So far, it seems like everyone is highly attached to what phase they are in and different labels after reading the book. Can anyone comment on this? In my own life, I have worked to free myself of my old story (filled with labels and reasons why I was where I was, ect).

I'll admit that I've had trouble with intention manifestation. I had so much trouble that I gave up on the idea and started working to shift my "story" about life so that I could move in the direction I want to move in. However, I do believe in intention manifestation. There seems to be a power in it and I have not been able to grasp that power, yet. I studied the law of attraction a while back but quickly realized there was something wrong with that way of teaching. And I've studied Abraham but I felt strong misalignment with those people.

It sounds like this is another book that teaches a theory about how to get money (through realizing we already have everything we need, correct?) and I don't want to buy into another scheme, you know? I've been jerked around enough. However, I am interested in something that is applicable and beneficial to my life in a way that will allow me to actually bust loose from the money game.

carenkh · 12-24-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by billionairekid

So far, it seems like everyone is highly attached to what phase they are in and different labels after reading the book. Can anyone comment on this?

I see it as less attachment than a handy way to describe where you are. It's like my life before I was a mom, vs. after. They're SO different, it's like two different lives! It's that big between Phase I & II, too. I don't think in those terms unless I'm writing about it, comparing ways of thinking, etc.

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Originally Posted by billionairekid

I don't want to buy into another scheme, you know? I've been jerked around enough. However, I am interested in something that is applicable and beneficial to my life in a way that will allow me to actually bust loose from the money game.

This is definitely no scheme - there is some schemey stuff if you look for it! You can find criticism for Scheinfeld out there, and you can read that and grab onto it if you wish. I'd suggest reading the book & doing the process for a while, first - your own 30-day trial. Open-mindedly give it a go. I haven't fallen victim, and I become better and better at busting loose - really busting loose - all the time. Have you picked up on the happiness in Wax Frog's posts? That's what it will bring you!

Wax Frog · 12-24-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by carenkh

Have you picked up on the happiness in Wax Frog's posts? That's what it will bring you!

There are many things about the book that have set it apart for me, and one is that, instead of making a hard sell for his DVDs and seminars etc., the author constantly identifies this material as mere supportive extras that you may take or leave as you prefer.

Also, instead of hinting that his is The Ultimate Truth, the author instead says his model is neither absolute nor flawless, but one that does seem to fit workably with his experiences.

freddy · 12-28-2009, 10:55 PM

Has anyone see the movie the Truman Show?
I just watched it and was seeing the similarities in it and what the book Busting loose talks about.
I'm still using the process when ever the fear of out of control comes over me.

Wax Frog · 12-28-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by freddy

Has anyone see the movie the Truman Show?
I just watched it and was seeing the similarities in it and what the book Busting loose talks about.
I'm still using the process when ever the fear of out of control comes over me.

I've never seen it but the author specifically suggests it as a support material! It looks increasingly as if I'll have to see that...

Froztwolf · 01-01-2010, 11:50 PM

Thank you guys, you have just convinced me to get this book.
I have had trouble properly internalizing subjective reality, although I firmly believe it on an intellectual level. I'm hoping this book will make that all "click" better as so many here say it has for them.

billionairekid · 01-02-2010, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by carenkh

I see it as less attachment than a handy way to describe where you are. It's like my life before I was a mom, vs. after. They're SO different, it's like two different lives! It's that big between Phase I & II, too. I don't think in those terms unless I'm writing about it, comparing ways of thinking, etc.

This is definitely no scheme - there is some schemey stuff if you look for it! You can find criticism for Scheinfeld out there, and you can read that and grab onto it if you wish. I'd suggest reading the book & doing the process for a while, first - your own 30-day trial. Open-mindedly give it a go. I haven't fallen victim, and I become better and better at busting loose - really busting loose - all the time. Have you picked up on the happiness in Wax Frog's posts? That's what it will bring you!

Instead of forming an opinion with no basis, I decided to read the book for myself. I'm only 5 chapters in but I'm very impressed wth the book and I understand what everyone is talking about

Froztwolf · 01-03-2010, 03:20 PM

I'm about 3 chapters in myself so I can't comment much on the practical aspects yet but I'm a bit vary of the spirituality aspect.

Why is it that nearly all who preach subjective reality mire their philosophy in completely untestable spiritual mythology?

It seems to me that one could have the exact same perspective and take the same practical steps without the requirement of taking an untestable mythology at face value. That's the reason Christianity never gelled with me to begin with and I started looking for alternatives.

billionairekid · 01-04-2010, 03:50 AM

I'm almost finished with the book; I've gotten into chapter 12. The practical aspects seem to make sense and I think I've been on the edge of entering Phase 2, as he calls it, for quite some time. Just reading the book and thinking about its application has caused all of the symptoms he describes when someone enters phase two. I've been questioning a lot and have been really confused. To me, I understand exactly how the process and finding eggs can increase your wealth because it returns you to a natural state of abundance.

My problem is that from a spiritual standpoint, his description of the human game really bothers me. I've been having trouble with it all night. I can't accept that I'm here to play a game that I can't win. As he says, what the heck would be the point? Can anyone provide help?

Ever since I was a kid, I've believed that I'm here for a big purpose. The way the author describes life, which I can understand because I've studied quantum physics a little, seems so useless. Creating a life to hide my power and then find it doesn't seem like that much fun to me. Especially when I compare it to doing something like bettering others lives (although I guess others don't exist?). I'm questioning my whole life here

OlderWiser · 01-04-2010, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Froztwolf

I'm a bit vary of the spirituality aspect.

It's just a model of thought. A paradigm. It doesn't have to be "spiritual" any more than anything else does.

However, if you have big issues with "things that must be proven" or "untestable" paradigms, you're not really going to get much out of this book. I've seen other people with similar issues and they absolutely hate this book and gain nothing from it. I'm not necessarily saying you DO have issues like that, of course. I'm just making an observation.

Froztwolf · 01-04-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OlderWiser

However, if you have big issues with "things that must be proven" or "untestable" paradigms, ...

I don't necessarily mean proven in the scientific sense but merely something I can experience in one way or the other.
By what I've read here about the book I imagine the practical aspects of it will still be useful to me though. (will comment on that once I finish that part of the book)
I'm just tired of writers that try to bust my paradigms with systems I have to take on faith.

billionairekid · 01-04-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Froztwolf

I don't necessarily mean proven in the scientific sense but merely something I can experience in one way or the other.
By what I've read here about the book I imagine the practical aspects of it will still be useful to me though. (will comment on that once I finish that part of the book)
I'm just tired of writers that try to bust my paradigms with systems I have to take on faith.

The author gives specific instruction on how to experience what he talks about when you get into further chapters. He also gives a challenge to each reader but I don't know what it is yet. I have to finish the last three chapters.

openeyes · 01-05-2010, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by billionairekid

My problem is that from a spiritual standpoint, his description of the human game really bothers me. I've been having trouble with it all night. I can't accept that I'm here to play a game that I can't win. As he says, what the heck would be the point? Can anyone provide help?

You might get some use out of the concept outlined in Finite and Infinite Games: A Vision of Life as Play and Possibility by James P. Carse.

"Infinite games, on the other hand, do not have a knowable beginning or ending. They are played with the goal of continuing play. An infinite game continues play, for sake of play. If the game is approaching resolution because of the rules of play, the rules must be changed to allow continued play. The rules exist to ensure the game is infinite. The only known example is life. Beginning to participate in an infinite game may be involuntary, in that it doesn't require conscious thought. Continuing participation in the current round of game-play is voluntary. "It is an invariable principle of all play, finite and infinite, that whoever plays, plays freely" (p. 4)."

Or, as Vonnegut would say, "we're here on Earth to fart around"

Since at least my mid teens I've mostly seen life as god playing hide and seek with itself. It's interesting as I come across more books written along similar lines.

Froztwolf · 01-05-2010, 01:07 AM

My gripe is merely with being expected to take at face value statements of being an immortal God/Soul/Fragment which I see as entirely untestable.

That said I strongly believe life is a to be played as a game and that its objective is happiness. I rejoice at every opportunity to learn to play it better and I do appreciate the book.

BlueCrane · 01-07-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by impaul99

For example, beliefs such as "You must provide value in order to make money" have been shattered in my life on a few occasions. For example, I've gone through periods of time where I've put in so much effort and provided so much value for everyone involved (customers, employees, shareholders etc.) yet I was compensated very poorly - often times less than most of the other employees who weren't creating nearly as much value. Then, at other times when I was just relaxed and not really too concerned about trying to provide value, my compensation skyrocketed.

The cause/effect of "provide value" leads to "make more money" seems like a believable theory at first, but it hasn't been what I've experienced to be true in real life.

Thanks Paul - that's exactly what I found a few times in my life and I simply couldn't believe that Steve should be wrong about this.

I had never heard about Robert Scheinfeld until today and just spent a few hours going through these threads and RS's material on his website : all this is really convincing and I'll get the book now, although the cover looks really silly and cheap.

Froztwolf · 01-08-2010, 01:18 PM

The cover looks horrible! I would have never picked up this book if it wouldn't have been for the recommendations on this forum.

Thanks guys.

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Keena Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Geographic center of British Columbia, Canada Posts: 42	Yossarian, thanks for starting this thread! Because of it I was intrigued enough to get the book. It has been mind-blowing! I "knew" all of the stuff in it before from previous reading - except for the process - but this book made it all "click", like the puzzle pieces were in the right places before but not interlocked. And now they are. I have noticed some interesting things though - stuff Robert says this new model is NOT about - but if you read carefully it really is. For example, on his website he says it is not about visualization. Technically, no. However, visualization is an imaginitive process - and so is The Process. And he says, it's not about affirmations, and yet The Process is a gigantic affirmation! Anyway, fascinating and amazing book. I really enjoyed it and am actually re-reading it. My egg reclamation has been on lots of different things - emotional, mental and physical. A lot of stuff around my cranky boss (who now makes me smile and even laugh when I think about all the eggs I'm busting because of her!) and it's even been working on my allergies. Sweet! Just about anything that comes up that I am resisting in any way I am applying the Process to - and it works. The weird stuff started showing up nearly immediately, too. Yesterday, I was typing up a report and when I read what I wrote - it wasn't what I wrote - or thought I wrote. Getting a lot more synchronicities. And I only started Phase 2 2 days ago! For all of you who are having difficulty with the aloneness part, check out Scheinfeld's website - BUSTING LOOSE From The Money Game - he had a dream about the "sparks" and how they interact. The audio is called "others". Scheinfeld states in one part that if he goes out with his wife for dinner - they are together in their respective similar holograms but each not only has their own universe (hologram) but also plays the part they play in the other's hologram. So, for instance you would have your experience in which your partner plays the part they need to play to support you in your Game, and at the same time the partner has their own experience in which you play the part you need to play to support them in their Game. Anyone see this week's episode of Supernatural? Laughed the whole way through the Trickster's Game Show illusions! Blessings, Keena Last edited by Keena; 11-06-2009 at 04:47 PM.

11-15-2009, 08:25 AM	#41 (permalink)
LoveGoddess Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 2	First Timer Thanks for starting this thread Yossarian and special thanks to Angela for the highly informative posts. I just finished reading 'Busting Loose...' cover to cover in the past few days and like a few of you, much of it was familiar but packaged in a way that I truly appreciate. So, after I finished reading and committed to Phase 2 here's the weird thing that happened to me... 10 minutes later our VCR broke (remember those?). My husband was trying to tape something and got very frustrated (one of my eggs is 'his' frustration with technical glitches) and yup, I got frustrated with his frustration and it quickly escalated. Of course, while it was going on I KNEW that it was all my creation and I quickly brought down the escalation and he immediately went into his fabulous 'let's fix this mode'- still, I was feeling the burn of our interaction. He walked out the door with the VCR under his arm and I immediately went to the book and did my first 'Process' which took all of 5 minutes. I got the hit to call the Electronics Store and leave a msg for my husband to call me when he got there and they immediately put him on the line. Now, that was crazy because he had just walked out the door and there was NO WAY that he could have gotten there so quickly (we live in a busy part of Chicago, just finding parking can take awhile). He asked me with great wonder "How did you know I was already here?"- I couldn't really answer that of course. No kidding, 10 minutes later (!) he was back home with a beautiful used VCR (I didn't even know they still sold them)- and a lovely young man to quickly install it in our complicated system. New, the machine was $300- but it 'cost' us 50 bucks. And my husband was my hero who made all this happen in the blink of an eye. Here's the other crazy thing- I did the Matrix Energetics seminar last Spring. I'm not sure exactly what an avatar is (Angela referred to them and I'm very intrigued but what she meant) but in ME you can have one show up. Well, mine did. And it turned out to be a rather large, rather garish Easter Bunny. This is crazy on two levels- one, I'm Jewish. Two, Easter is really nothing to me - despite being Jewish, Christmas is the holiday I adore most in the year (I just love everything about the lights, good cheer and volunteerism etc. and I know every song in Midnight Mass having sung in lotsa churches in my life) So I was pretty surprised to have my very own Easter Bunny communicating with me in helpful albeit sometimes funny and sarcastic tones. I read this book and it's all about reclaiming power from 'eggs'. My EB is flipping with hilarity about this so-called coincidence. Well, this is my introduction- I'm writing a book of my own so don't know how much I'll be online but I just wanted to say 'Hidy Ho' to all of you and it's way cool to have others who are trying this on themselves since aside from one of my business partners, I don't know anyone else who has committed to Phase 2 (and she just committed last week so she's pretty new altho already money has been flying at her from out of the blue- she's an ME practitioner so already has a lot of practice in the Zero-Point Field. btw, this book was the ONLY resource recommended by Richard Bartlett, the developer and teacher of Matrix Energetics. What I'm loving about this book is that it's taking a big part of that seminar and putting it into a step by step process format which really appeals to me. And it's a lot less than the 600 bucks plus travel and hotel that I paid for the seminar (altho just to be fair, I had a BALL at that seminar and am sooo glad I went.) Please forgive the wordy intro- I guess I could have just said "Hi, I'm Juli aka the LoveGoddess" and left it at that. But I'm reclaiming power from the egg of needing to hide myself so I don't attract too much unwanted attention. :-) A story I'm definitely up for breaking loose from given that I'm well, writing a book... Thanks again everyone- cannot wait to read more about all of your experiences applying the Process. Juli Developer and Teacher of the p.s. A question for anyone who knows...what's a Trackback and how does one use it? Last edited by LoveGoddess; 11-15-2009 at 08:40 AM. Reason: web address still looks funky...where's my rotary phone?

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11-06-2009, 04:52 PM	#32 (permalink)
Keena Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Geographic center of British Columbia, Canada Posts: 42	For those of you who have been in Phase 2 for awhile - could you please comment about how your hologram has changed? How are you "popping things into your hologram" that you want to play with? Those who quit their jobs - how did that go with the abundance? Did you find yourself being tempted into Phase 1 thinking at all? Did all the supporting players pop into your hologram as predicted? Thanks! Keena

11-07-2009, 08:20 AM	#33 (permalink)
impaul99 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 1,935	Just bought the eBook from the Sony Reader store so I can read it on my digital reader. Unfortunately, the battery is dead on it at the moment so I have to wait until it recharges before I can download it on there and read it. I have no idea what all these eggs everyone is talking about are, but I guess I will soon enough. Sound like a very interesting concept. The reason I bought this book is because this morning I asked my guides to help me have a "Quantum Leap" in my growth today. Without mentioning this word to anyone, 3 different people with 3 different products/processes have used that word today - one of which was the Tour of this book on Robert's website. I'm following all 3 things. Can't wait to read this book. The most I've ever manifested was about $430k in a few months using Law of Attraction. I wonder what I'll be able to manifest after this book.

11-07-2009, 07:29 PM	#34 (permalink)
Keena Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Geographic center of British Columbia, Canada Posts: 42	I think it may result in a quantum leap! It sure did for me - but everyone is different. I'll be awaiting your comments after reading it! Blessings, Keena

11-08-2009, 12:43 AM	#35 (permalink)
impaul99 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 1,935	Just finished reading the book. Firstly, I'll congratulate the author in that I didn't stop reading the book until it was finished. Having read over a thousand books in the last 15+ years, it's not very often I do that with books anymore. Most of the time I put books down and then come back to them later. Anyway, after finishing the book it kind of reminded me of The Power of Now combined with A Course in Miracles with a little bit of Subjective Reality stuff from Steve Pavlina. Much of what he wrote in the book I've experienced already in my life as well. It seems I may have been unconsciously starting to move into Phase 2 without even realizing it. For example, beliefs such as "You must provide value in order to make money" have been shattered in my life on a few occasions. For example, I've gone through periods of time where I've put in so much effort and provided so much value for everyone involved (customers, employees, shareholders etc.) yet I was compensated very poorly - often times less than most of the other employees who weren't creating nearly as much value. Then, at other times when I was just relaxed and not really too concerned about trying to provide value, my compensation skyrocketed. The cause/effect of "provide value" leads to "make more money" seems like a believable theory at first, but it hasn't been what I've experienced to be true in real life. Not to say that I don't want to provide value - I'm just saying that one doesn't necessary cause the other according to my life experience. Most of the other beliefs challenged in the book - which is pretty much EVERYTHING from Phase 1 thinking - are similar as well. The one thing I couldn't put my finger on before reading this book was what the "truth" was. The challenge was that everything was inconsistent when living in a Phase 1 world. It wasn't until reading this book that I realized that trying to "figure out" Phase 1 is pointless as it was designed to not be figured out. If your intention is to "Create an illusion world that I can't even figure out the rules to", then there is no point trying to figure out the rules. It's simply easier to change your intention in the first place. I still need to fully digest what I just read, but there are definitely a lot of answers in this book that I've been looking for, for a while. Especially the concept of not needing to worry about planning or creating or manifesting abundance, but rather simply just stripping away the illusion of lack, and abundance will just appear automatically like getting rid of clouds exposes the sun automatically. I think I may finally have understood this concept at a deeper level, although I'll admit my mind still hasn't grasped it. A part of me still wants to go plan something. I wonder in what ways we can use this forum to help each-other (really, ourselves) get in more alignment with Phase 2.

11-09-2009, 06:54 AM	#36 (permalink)
impaul99 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 1,935	So far, here's something rather "weird" that happened this morning after reading the book. I sat down to pay our bills this morning. I do all my bills online. I went through my spreadsheet and added up the payments I needed to make, and it came out to just over $1,000 in payments. Then, I logged into my bank account and something weird happened. My credit card had an extra $1,000 in "room" on it than I was expecting. I can't really explain it. I'm an affiliate marketer so I make several large payments on my card per week and I make charges to it almost daily, but I usually keep a pretty good tab of how much room I have on there at any given time since I'm in my accounts multiple times a day. I swear that $1,000 worth of room wasn't there yesterday. It just kind of showed up this morning and exactly how much I needed to pay my bills. What I usually do is I pay my bills via Credit Card if they accept credit cards and then pay my card. That way I get points on my card. Oh yeah, almost forgot. When I paid my bills I focused on expressing appreciation for each bill like the book said. Very different experience than what usually happens. In fact, at the end of paying them all I almost felt like "That's it? Is that the last one? Awww..." which I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. What else has anyone experienced after reading this book? Also, anyone read this book: Amazon.com: Busting Loose From the Business Game: Mind-Blowing Strategies for Recreating Yourself, Your Team, Your Business, and Everything in Between (9780470453087): Robert Scheinfeld: Books (Non-affiliate link btw)

11-09-2009, 04:03 PM	#37 (permalink)
Keena Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Geographic center of British Columbia, Canada Posts: 42	Hi Paul, Thanks for posting your thoughts and experiences so far - fascinating! I love your c card wiggle room! I haven't experienced anything like that yet. It's been a lot more subtle - more joy and laughter, more amusement, events happening that support my "wishes" (they haven't been intentions since I was trying to avoid wanting to change the hologram), more inner peace (and I had a lot to begin with!), and I'm more relaxed and going with the flow - really trying to do what inspires me and not what I feel I should do (a Phase 1 perspective). I have also experienced little "weird" things - things disappearing and then showing up, typing one thing and having another thing there, time "warps" where time seems to stop when you're "not looking" and seeming to have more time in general. Looking forward to the wiggle room on my ccard! LOL! Blessings, Keena

11-09-2009, 04:06 PM	#38 (permalink)
Keena Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Geographic center of British Columbia, Canada Posts: 42	Also, anyone read this book: Amazon.com: Busting Loose From the Business Game: Mind-Blowing Strategies for Recreating Yourself, Your Team, Your Business, and Everything in Between (9780470453087): Robert Scheinfeld: Books --- You can get a download on Scheinfeld's website called the Conscious Business (I think!) - I think it's a little e-book intro to this book. It's BL applied to business and it's quite good. I look forward to your review of the above business book. Blessings, Keena

11-09-2009, 10:41 PM	#39 (permalink)
impaul99 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 1,935	I'm trying to find the Business book in digital format, but it seems it's only available in Hard Cover. Might need to actually get off my butt and drive to a bookstore and pick it up. Has anyone read this book? I'm definitely curious about the details of how to apply Phase II thinking to a business. It's really cool because this guy built a $177 Million dollar business BEFORE even learning all this stuff, so he definitely knows what he's doing in business.

11-10-2009, 10:04 AM	#40 (permalink)
Tristan Bull Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 81	Cool was just had this pointed out to me, will probably pick up a copy tomorrow. I'm interested in hearing thoughts about the world being an illusion. Will have to read it, don't want to go through all the posts coz I don't like spoilers! lol

11-15-2009, 02:21 PM	#42 (permalink)
Angela Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 22,520	Hi, Juli, and welcome! I'm so happy to meet you! An avatar, the way I've been using that word, is one of those aspects of your expanded self that we normally call "people" or "others" or "your husband" or "Angela" or even your primary-focus avatar, "Juli." All the actors you have cast in the illusion you've created, all saying and doing things you (your expanded self, I mean) create them as saying and doing. I love Easter, too. And I am sure not religious! I love symbolism of rebirth, new beginnings, fresh starts, all of the colors and animals and chocolate and sex that make up Easter. Also the Easter humor -- some of my favorite jokes are Easter jokes. And I love your helpful, funny, sarcastic Easter Bunny! I hope you have a wonderful time here, when you're taking a break from writing your fabulous book. Looking forward to reading it very much. Lots of love, Angela

11-19-2009, 06:50 AM	#43 (permalink)
OlderWiser Retired Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 664	I've been a member of this community for a while, but don't post a lot. In fact, I haven't even come around much in recent months for various reasons, but lately I sort of felt drawn or something. I don't know why, can't really explain it. For whatever reason, I landed in this thread (and checked out a couple others on the same topic), and I was so intrigued that I ordered the book. It was shipped today, will probably take a week to ten days to get here (to Australia), maybe a bit longer, and then I'll certainly be reading it. Judging by the content of this and other threads, it's all stuff I already "know" but haven't been able to pull together effectively, so I'm hoping the book will help with that. I've made some big paradigm shifts already on my own, so I'm looking forward to seeing what this book brings about for me. I'm glad I didn't just rely on the reviews on Amazon for this... There's one person (avatar?) whose life purpose appears to be posting derogatory comments on any positive review of this book! LOL! What a strange game...

12-24-2009, 12:18 PM	#45 (permalink)
billionairekid Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: In the moment Posts: 527	I'm interested in picking up this book but I have one restraint that is holding me back. So far, it seems like everyone is highly attached to what phase they are in and different labels after reading the book. Can anyone comment on this? In my own life, I have worked to free myself of my old story (filled with labels and reasons why I was where I was, ect). I'll admit that I've had trouble with intention manifestation. I had so much trouble that I gave up on the idea and started working to shift my "story" about life so that I could move in the direction I want to move in. However, I do believe in intention manifestation. There seems to be a power in it and I have not been able to grasp that power, yet. I studied the law of attraction a while back but quickly realized there was something wrong with that way of teaching. And I've studied Abraham but I felt strong misalignment with those people. It sounds like this is another book that teaches a theory about how to get money (through realizing we already have everything we need, correct?) and I don't want to buy into another scheme, you know? I've been jerked around enough. However, I am interested in something that is applicable and beneficial to my life in a way that will allow me to actually bust loose from the money game.

12-28-2009, 10:55 PM	#48 (permalink)
freddy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 453	Has anyone see the movie the Truman Show? I just watched it and was seeing the similarities in it and what the book Busting loose talks about. I'm still using the process when ever the fear of out of control comes over me.

01-01-2010, 11:50 PM	#50 (permalink)
Froztwolf Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 217	Thank you guys, you have just convinced me to get this book. I have had trouble properly internalizing subjective reality, although I firmly believe it on an intellectual level. I'm hoping this book will make that all "click" better as so many here say it has for them.

01-03-2010, 03:20 PM	#52 (permalink)
Froztwolf Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 217	I'm about 3 chapters in myself so I can't comment much on the practical aspects yet but I'm a bit vary of the spirituality aspect. Why is it that nearly all who preach subjective reality mire their philosophy in completely untestable spiritual mythology? It seems to me that one could have the exact same perspective and take the same practical steps without the requirement of taking an untestable mythology at face value. That's the reason Christianity never gelled with me to begin with and I started looking for alternatives.

01-04-2010, 03:50 AM	#53 (permalink)
billionairekid Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: In the moment Posts: 527	I'm almost finished with the book; I've gotten into chapter 12. The practical aspects seem to make sense and I think I've been on the edge of entering Phase 2, as he calls it, for quite some time. Just reading the book and thinking about its application has caused all of the symptoms he describes when someone enters phase two. I've been questioning a lot and have been really confused. To me, I understand exactly how the process and finding eggs can increase your wealth because it returns you to a natural state of abundance. My problem is that from a spiritual standpoint, his description of the human game really bothers me. I've been having trouble with it all night. I can't accept that I'm here to play a game that I can't win. As he says, what the heck would be the point? Can anyone provide help? Ever since I was a kid, I've believed that I'm here for a big purpose. The way the author describes life, which I can understand because I've studied quantum physics a little, seems so useless. Creating a life to hide my power and then find it doesn't seem like that much fun to me. Especially when I compare it to doing something like bettering others lives (although I guess others don't exist?). I'm questioning my whole life here

01-05-2010, 01:07 AM	#58 (permalink)
Froztwolf Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 217	My gripe is merely with being expected to take at face value statements of being an immortal God/Soul/Fragment which I see as entirely untestable. That said I strongly believe life is a to be played as a game and that its objective is happiness. I rejoice at every opportunity to learn to play it better and I do appreciate the book.

01-08-2010, 01:18 PM	#60 (permalink)
Froztwolf Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 217	The cover looks horrible! I would have never picked up this book if it wouldn't have been for the recommendations on this forum. Thanks guys.

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