Twin Flames

[celestar332]

Does anyone feel they have met their twin flame?

I thought this would make a good post for this topic doesn't come up as much as it should, and I think that some out there have really dug deep to find out who they are meant to belong with. Like me for example , and here is my story:

I have felt for awhile that I briefly met my Twin Flame about 8 years ago. Of course, at the time of meeting her I had no idea what soul mates/twin flames/twinsouls were. But I ran into a sort of ring of synchronocities before and after meeting this wonderful person that prompted me to believe that something amazing was about to happen or go on. Which it did, and I still remember it like it was yesterday. One thing that occurred after our meeting especially was I ran into the book "Twin souls, finding your true spiritual partner" by Pressman kind of coincidentally in a bookstore one day. It was an odd finding, for I wasn't looking for it and knew nothing about it, but something inside me said this was a sign or beacon of some kind. After reading it, I realized that this person I met was indeed my twin flame, even though our meeting was brief and we did not fully connect or form a relationship. Since that time we have had a sort of "mental" relationship through dreams and through connecting in other dimensions. I haven't been able to forget her and I dream of the day of meeting again. It is possible but I fear we are only met to connect in the "spirit" way and not in the physical way.

Does anyone relate?

Has anyone had this experience or know more info about twin flames?

[Angela]

Originally Posted by celestar332

"Twin souls, finding your true spiritual partner"

I believe that each and every human is my "twin soul" and spiritual partner. Every encounter is an opportunity to recognize the joy, connection and abundance that is me/you/us, and to let go of the illusion that we are separate and unrelated.

The idea that there is one, true soulmate for you and your job is to hook up (and that you can possibly "fail at love"), I believe, is just part of the incredibly brilliant illusionary limitation we set up for here to hide our truly unlimited nature from ourselves. Anyone and everyone has the potential to be my spiritual partner. You are being it right now!

[bellemeadows]

People you have known closely in other lifetimes can definately show up that way. Some resonate and have a sense of that remembrance, and others do not.

If you find that you pine for that person, it may be that you gave a piece of your soul to them. I believe those deep loves, the ones you don't forget -- where even after time goes by and they are so very real to you in your heart, are sometimes this scenario. You have loved them in another life, and still love them. Particularly if you lived through hardship together, you may have tried very hard to help them / save them, for example, your child was ill and dying, and want sooo much to save them that you give them a piece of your soul. That piece of your soul is still in their keeping, and you may have a piece of their soul as well.

All such relationships are eternal, with or without the giving of a piece of your soul to them. You will meet in another life, and know each other in spirit forever.

If the relationship distracts you from living and enjoying your life, you might go see a shaman, or a theta healer. They can gently unhook the connection (and again, all such relationships are eternal -- so it won't make a difference, except if you are stuck, you will be able to open your heart again to others, instead of holding it tied to your 'flame'.)

This is not a disloyal thing to do. Your love is enough. You don't need that tie to each other which makes you miss them, pine for them.

Love does not tie one down. It flows and allows freedom to each of you.

Just a few thoughts. Blessings from Belle,

[Tigerlilly]

Originally Posted by celestar332

Does anyone feel they have met their twin flame?

Well, if there really was such a thing as a twin flame or a soul twin, and you'd ask me to make a guess, I'd put my money on a total stranger I caught sight of two years ago. I didn't know anything about twin souls at that time either, but just intended "to find my other half, the one soul who was bonded to mine by the hands of God in heaven, inseparable from mine". In my opinion a clear case of: Be careful what you ask for.

What makes me believe in this stranger being my soul twin - if such a thing should truly exist- is that the synchronicity between our lives dating all the way back and the empathic connection there seems to be is just too spooky and has freaked me out more than once.

Basically I believe that all souls are bonded, it's all one energy field, so I have no basic problem with spiritual unity and Psi; but that two beings should be empathetically bonded so that without ever knowing of one another they still influence each others lives, that they should create their lives in some odd way reflecting one another with a whole world between them, that I still find mind-boggling.

I really have mixed feelings about it all; partially I feel that I've hit upon some basic truth of existence when I came to think of this stranger as somehow being my soul twin. But all limiting beliefs that are thrown into this soul twin thing, like I'm supposed to be together with him, have me freak out and want to run from believing such a thing to exist at all.

Since I've grown a bit tired of trying to come up with answers as to whether it's real or what it could be all about, for now I've simply settled for wishing both of us true love and happiness and all the best, and figure I can't go wrong with that wherever it may lead.

[jaamkie]

not sure if I would call it "twin flame"- we are just kinda average goofy imperfect shy people and if you read about that stuff it seems to say you have to be spiritually enlightened before you have earned the right to your twin flame.... however,
I am dating (? the usual words never quite seem to fit) this guy who is very similar to me- we tend to be thinking the same sorts of things at the same times, talk a lot about beliefs and world problems and ethics as well as share a lot of less-lofty interests and personality traits. Our relationship is very peaceful, almost weirdly empty feeling because we aren't insecure or jealous or needy or hateful (well we're always disagreeing with each other's ideas back and forth in discussion; but I've never felt anything but love from him or for him...). Up until I met him I was very much attached to the belief that I didn't have a single "soul mate" but that I'd meet many men that could be equally great for me and it was just a mutual choice to make it work- but since I've met him and since I've grown accustomed to our different happy inevitable-feeling relationship (for awhile I was sort of waiting for the other shoe to drop...), if I'm honest with myself I just can't imagine meeting someone else that would be as perfect for me or that I would feel as perfect for them. I feel like I do love him like I love myself, support his growth in his own time, but also love him and think he's perfect as he is; and while perhaps I shouldn't speak for him, he treats me unfailingly kindly and respectfully and lovingly and gently... how I hope I treat him in return.

[rush23]

I don't really believe in the whole twin flame/soulmate/better half thing as I believe that we are all connected on the purest level of consciousness even though most of us are not aware of this. If we did, there would be no wars, hatred etc...

However, I believe most of us tend to gravitate towards those who on the same level of consciousness (like attracts like) and that's why we feels so in sync with some people and other people seem to come from another planet.

This kind of connection goes far beyond family relation, friendship or romance. It is a soul connection. Unfortunately for myself, I have yet to experience fully. I have had like minded souls briefly come into my life, but the experiences were all too short for me to fully experience a soul connection.

[nicolebrown]

I'm glad I stumbled across your post. I experienced something very similar to what you've described. (i.e. particularly the question of whether your relationship shall remain as unity of a spiritual kind aspiring to physically coming together) And I learned there's a reason...

Outside of perfect love - away from God - we run into many obstacles to getting together. It may even seem, after finally finding the one, that there is even a sort of prevention going on even while you both want to be together. One can be ready and accepting, however, while the other is not. When this is the case, you'll remain apart.

I hope you find this helpful.

(link to related topic in my blog) Out of Time and Space « In Perfect Love

There's an ebook on the subject as well.

Best,
Nicole

[dare]

so is there such as thing as twin souls or not as in erins blog she says there is no such thing as soul mates, so if soul mates are out, maybe twin souls are too?

[themaster]

Originally Posted by dare

so is there such as thing as twin souls or not as in erins blog she says there is no such thing as soul mates, so if soul mates are out, maybe twin souls are too?

Ahh.. did you not read what angela said?

Oih..

Everyone is you.. not just everyone.. but EVERYONE!

So there may be beings that you special kinship with because there more in alignment with your.. say configuration.. but there all you.. "twin flames" is a real concept but I wouldn't beat yourself upside the head spending agonizing hours/years/decades trying to find the right one..

Anyone can be the right one.. and I'm not joking!

If you and Cindy Lauper (who is she again?) were on a desert island together no hope of being rescued even leaving.. you would be twin flames.. you would be compatible.. okay?

(this assumes your male.. obviously if your female.. let's say that "Avatar" guy.. alright?)

There isn't anyone here.. any of us that isn't compatible.. it just takes in this limitation reality the right circumstances and the right way of seeing things to make it so.. that's all it takes.. and it's not as hard as we all make it out to be

[rei]

(my goodness this is an old thread...)

There are many "soul mates," and usually we can't fit all our soul energy into one physical body so it is in two bodies (because this reality was structured to be dualistic). These halves of one self may or may not incarnate at the same time, close enough in age to be romantically involved, or anything like that. And soul mates, twin flames, etc. may or may not involve "til death" - we're all growing and changing and sometimes we plan ahead to stick with each other for a long time within human notions of time, and then sometimes there are other plans in place. We often don't know how we plan for it to work out. And it is often a matter of whether both people's relationship karma is balanced when they hook up - and even then, an individual can choose to override the karmic arrangements. We have free will, after all.

I have not seen Erin's blog. I don't know if the information she offered matches my own sources. In my experience, though, the Twin Flame phenomenon is real. I met mine

Ultimately, though, anyone can be the right one for you. And even a Twin Flame relationship is still a relationship between human beings. There is magic there, sure, but it also has the little things involved in relating among humans.

[dare]

yeah i read what angela said but isn't that nonsense? how can every human be your twin soul? yeah i'm male and being stranded on an island with cindy lauper would get her nowhere with me. maybe our ideas of twin flames are different?

[rei]

Originally Posted by dare

yeah i read what angela said but isn't that nonsense? how can every human be your twin soul? yeah i'm male and being stranded on an island with cindy lauper would get her nowhere with me. maybe our ideas of twin flames are different?

The attitude she shared there seems like it makes you more open, though, generally speaking. What if your idea of a twin flame comes into your life but on the surface there is a quality which you have chosen to view as an automatic deal-breaker? I don't mean standards like someone who cares about their health, I mean something small like "Must share my taste in music" - what if that person gets snipped out of your life for a small quality when they are also right in other ways?

The idea, I think, is you can choose to limit your options or not limit them so much, depending on the attitude you take and the perspective you have. I have experienced someone transform in front of me, from incredibly annoying to just being and sometimes even into someone truly amazing. It is about perspective, I think that might especially be true if we are fairly grounded in our physical life. I say it might be especially true there because it seems a person *might* be less aware of any messages that bubble up from the soul level upon meeting someone... then again, love at first sight can happen to anyone...

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by dare

yeah i read what angela said but isn't that nonsense? how can every human be your twin soul? yeah i'm male and being stranded on an island with cindy lauper would get her nowhere with me. maybe our ideas of twin flames are different?

I am afraid my friend everyone is your soul, mate, twin or whatever.

When you learn to see the divine spark within you love all unconditionally, and the most beautiful feeling of bliss comes over you in how you feel toward everyone cause you see yourself in them.

But in 3d reality where you are firmly resident, you are attracted to the 3d aspect of a person, therefore their personality, image etc is what is drawing you. However, when you go beyond that you see the beauty within and the connection to you.

I have seen it, it makes you wanna weep it is so perfect the love you feel for all.

Peace

[dare]

so a mass murderer on death row is your soul mate, twin or whatever?

your on your own there, my 3d reality wants nothing to do with him or my soul either.

but lets just say your right, does that mean if everyone is my soulmate, why do we have marriage? if i meet 20 girls and they are all my soulmate, i see the beauty within, then are you saying i can have a relationship with all of them, maybe even all at once and its cool because we are soulmates or whatever?

[Voyagner]

What's a twin flame? Sounds pretty mystical.

[nicbrahms]

Originally Posted by dare

so a mass murderer on death row is your soul mate, twin or whatever?

your on your own there, my 3d reality wants nothing to do with him or my soul either.

but lets just say your right, does that mean if everyone is my soulmate, why do we have marriage? if i meet 20 girls and they are all my soulmate, i see the beauty within, then are you saying i can have a relationship with all of them, maybe even all at once and its cool because we are soulmates or whatever?

My friend you are mixing up soul mate with life partner or girlfriend or boyfriend.

We are all one soul, the soul of God, so therefore all are your soul mates.

However, whether you want to be with them through life is entirely different matter, soul mate is a misused term used to describe a relationship with one person that exists with all people.

Thats all.

Peace

[wolfgang]

not everyone is your twin flame - only the ones that become significant in your life. in a philosophical way everyone on planet earth is some version of the same being, but then again there are people on the other side of the world that I've never met - how could they be a twin flame if there's no knowing of them? no interaction personally?

[James81]

"There is only one of us." -- Conversations with God

[Strangemagik]

I totally believe in our souls recognizing other souls. BUT I have come to find that it does not always mean romantic relations. So in a sense yes I do think I have met at least one soul flame but I don't agree that there is only one as described by many in the differential of soul mate and soul flame.

We all hope to find this person as a life partner but, in fact, its not always the terms we thought or hoped it to be under. I think we can create this flame with anyone but both partners have to be not only willing to change but willing to work to do so in unison. Ego stops most of that, I think. And then we have people growing apart.

The soul connection with a death row inmate could very well be possible. In my soul connection, which I thought for sure was soul flame it turned out he just was to trapped in his level of consciousness and was not going to grow with mine. So it fell apart. Although we had a great connection on a soul level we just could not be contained in the same level long. Sad!

[dare]

Originally Posted by nicbrahms

My friend you are mixing up soul mate with life partner or girlfriend or boyfriend.

We are all one soul, the soul of God, so therefore all are your soul mates.

However, whether you want to be with them through life is entirely different matter, soul mate is a misused term used to describe a relationship with one person that exists with all people.

Thats all.

Peace

maybe its you who's mixing them up, this is a twin flame thread.
we all have many or as you say everyone is a soulmate? but lets just stick to what the thread is about, twinsouls and we each only have one twinsoul.

[themaster]

For those confused on what a Twin Flame definition is.. I give you the 1st link on google.. which yes does = absolute truth

Twin Flames, introduction by Antera

Originally Posted by dare

so a mass murderer on death row is your soul mate, twin or whatever?

Yep, every single person on the planet is you.. and you are they.. I believe the term "brothers and sisters" works better

Originally Posted by dare

your on your own there, my 3d reality wants nothing to do with him or my soul either.

This is a judgment.. it's like saying to the air.. I refuse to breath you and you are not me!

Or to your pinky toe.. you don't exist, I hate you!

You could for example think of the earth as a being like yourself.. and all the creatures living on it as the cells.. you just called one of the cells inside the collective.. "Evil" "Bad" "not you"

Every person on the planet is you.. and you are they.. you can deny "oneness" all you want.. and pretend it isn't so.. and that's why this reality was designed to explore and forget oneness.. to see things we created through perspective.. wonderful game isn't it?

Originally Posted by dare

but lets just say your right, does that mean if everyone is my soulmate, why do we have marriage?

What are you joking?

For many eons on this planet (not forever) we have been exploring limitation.. in terms of possession.. and lack.. and disconnection etc. (and we've been exploring the positive side)

In simple terms marriage was created because people LACK about sex.. they feel possessive about SEX.. meaning YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SEX UP BOB over there.. and then you have the jealousy of emotion or hate towards bob.. which as you know in our more primitive or "lower vibrations" days led to murder etc. (strike that people still kill over sex today! )

So marriage was all about the idea of possession of someone for exclusivity of sex and affection.. it doesn't work that way (all the time) but that's the idea.. it was created via fear, anger, possessiveness etc. but you don't have to see it that way today.. you can see it as freeing (somewhat), loving, choosing etc. (life is perspective )

I tell you that within 50 years.. marriage the idea may actually be obsolete.. there's so much change coming to the planet right now.. so much energy that concepts were discussing now may possibly be mostly gone.. within that time..

The reason to be clear why "soulmates" created marriage.. is cause they forgot they were "soulmates" and in this forgetting we created all these institutions and rules.. which as I said may bleed away within our lifetimes

The idea of understanding that were all ONE is coming/going to be offered to everyone on the planet.. you may refuse to see it or accept it (as is your choice creator god possessing "free will") but the offer will be made

[themaster]

Originally Posted by dare

if i meet 20 girls and they are all my soulmate, i see the beauty within, then are you saying i can have a relationship with all of them, maybe even all at once and its cool because we are soulmates or whatever?

absof$##$^ lutely

There is only one problem with that right now.. at least in my reality.. 20 girls may not be open to having a relationship with one guy.. just depends on where you are.. and what the female population around you believes

So if you absolutely want that.. you may have to wait for that information of being one and releasing huge amounts of limitation.. before that future is around you.. but it is coming my friend.. in about 50 years I'm almost positive you could have the scenario you just described.. otherwise for right now try a hippie community or a nudist colony maybe

[dare]

Yep, every single person on the planet is you.. and you are they.. I believe the term "brothers and sisters" works better

that doesn't mean you have to get on with them.

This is a judgment.. it's like saying to the air.. I refuse to breath you and you are not me!

Or to your pinky toe.. you don't exist, I hate you!

if the air is foul you would not breathe, if you pinky has infection, cut it off

Every person on the planet is you.. and you are they.. you can deny "oneness" all you want.. and pretend it isn't so.. and that's why this reality was designed to explore and forget oneness.. to see things we created through perspective.. wonderful game isn't it?

i'm not denying anything, i'm simply making my choice, i have free will after all

[themaster]

Originally Posted by dare

that doesn't mean you have to get on with them.

I refused to marry my cousin.. but that by law of attraction just drew us closer.. were still just good friends

Originally Posted by dare

if the air is foul you would not breathe

Most of us don't breath anyway.. but we breathe foul air all the time.. what have you never spent 5 minutes on a toilet smelling your own foul air/secretions?

(that stuff came from you.. also that stuff is you )

Originally Posted by dare

if you pinky has infection, cut it off

Yah, but how exactly did your pinky get infected..?? and shouldn't we just re-grow our limbs after we don't like them anymore?

Originally Posted by dare

i'm not denying anything, i'm simply making my choice, i have free will after all

Yep, you do.. but your free choice feels like "denial" to me.. how negative do you feel saying all this?

Would you like to believe your..

just a mere mortal of a human blown around by the winds of circumstance.. free to be hit by a bus at any moment or have a tire go out?

just a god carrying out a human existence lost in your powers and your own creations?

just a powerful creative being capable of anything?

Ask your self each of these questions.. and read your own emotional output on it.. (if you can) the hint and truths in life are right in emotions.. positive emotions = your truth.. and negative ones.. = blocks to your truth

[dare]

how can you still be just good friends if it drew you closer? surely if you were just good friends and the law of attraction drew you closer you would be more than just good friends now

no i've never spent 5 minutes on a toilet smelling my own smells, what kind of whack job does that! if you were specific and said have you never breathed any foul air whilst at the toilet that would be understandable but even so it doesn't mean you would do it on purpose, you wouldn't go up to the smokers outside of work just to breathe in the smoke, would youi! so i do refuse it. can you not grasp that concept with your free will.

denial to you is truth to me, if you can't see that, its maybe you who should look in the mirror and see who is in denial. if what is said on erins blog is correct, we have free will here and in the afterlife, don't be in denial of this and feel you have to accept everything and everyone because you are one (who dreams this up?) i don't want a swingers party on earth like you, this thread is about twinsouls, not toielts and what else you babbled about! keep it on track.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by dare

how can you still be just good friends if it drew you closer? surely if you were just good friends and the law of attraction drew you closer you would be more than just good friends now.

Yah, that's the joke in my statement.. I was saying resistance to that "which you say you don't want" draws it closer..

BTW.. I have cousins but I don't really know them that well.. it's just a made up example

Originally Posted by dare

no i've never spent 5 minutes on a toilet smelling my own smells, what kind of whack job does that!

I know crazy right?

What kind of wackjob does that..?? let me name a few..

- Scientists
- Janitors
- Me! Obviously lol

Originally Posted by dare

if you were specific and said have you never breathed any foul air whilst at the toilet that would be understandable but even so it doesn't mean you would do it on purpose, you wouldn't go up to the smokers outside of work just to breathe in the smoke, would youi! so i do refuse it. can you not grasp that concept with your free will.

Really, you wouldn't do it on purpose?

So why go into a public bathroom at all.. are you saying you avoid them like the plague? Because my understanding is we go in there all the time.. and "smell what we smell"

If your outside a usual "non-smoking building" 90% of the time smokers are right outside getting there usual "fix" and you could choose to exit the building where you didn't have to walk through the smokers and there "fix" but that would mean going a extra 1500 feet to your car.. so would you rather spend 2 seconds actively choosing to pass smokers (breathing in some toxins) or spend 1500 extra feet walking to go around and avoid what you label as bad?

What I'm saying is you already agree to "smell what you smell" and put up with "toxins" for convenience and just to do your thing.. unless you’re a "MONK" character which is in resistance.. (well, you are in resistance but hopefully not the neurotic kind )

Originally Posted by dare

denial to you is truth to me, if you can't see that, its maybe you who should look in the mirror and see who is in denial. if what is said on erins blog is correct, we have free will here and in the afterlife, don't be in denial of this and feel you have to accept everything and everyone because you are one (who dreams this up?) i don't want a swingers party on earth like you, this thread is about twinsouls, not toielts and what else you babbled about! keep it on track.

Why are you so angry about this concept?

Could you not believe that every man, woman and child is your brothers and sisters here..? That we all like each other where we come from??

Even though we go around and do this to each other Like you did to me

I understand you want your twin flame.. let me be honest and say you can't find your "twin flame" in judgment or hate.. or lack.. or any of those things.. only love will bring that to you.. how much love have you demonstrated in this thread?

And you don't seem to be in the place (observation) of being able to get that "twin flame" any time soon.. so Good Luck with that!

The big problem with the "twin flame" idea is.. people stop looking at themselves.. and treat the "twin flame" ideas as a MAGIC CURE ALL fix it pill to their relationship choices and problems.. and you can't get there from LACK or the other word is "problems" you just can't.. so it's a nice concept and everyone's interested, yes? wants, it yes?

But few asking about it.. are in a place to make that happen.. and your posts seem to indicate your far, far away from that..

[Kishka]

Im not sure what you would call this, probably not twin souls but there is a certain celebrity (male) who I share strange coincidences with.

We both moved around alot as kids
Both have parents who are a psychologist and teacher
Both have a brother named Colin
Both play the saxaphone (these last two I just discovered...)

What would you call this? This is someone Ive never met, and don't have a desire to meet. Im not sure why I ended up looking at his Bio one day after I watched him in a movie. I think maybe just simple curiosity. Then I was amazed at how much we had in common...

Thoughts anyone?

[dare]

Originally Posted by themaster

Really, you wouldn't do it on purpose?

i'm saying i wouldn't go in to purposefully smell inside,
If your outside a usual "non-smoking building" 90% of the time smokers are right outside getting there usual "fix" and you could choose to exit the building where you didn't have to walk through the smokers and there "fix" but that would mean going a extra 1500 feet to your car.. so would you rather spend 2 seconds actively choosing to pass smokers (breathing in some toxins) or spend 1500 extra feet walking to go around and avoid what you label as bad?

What I'm saying is you already agree to "smell what you smell" and put up with "toxins" for convenience and just to do your thing.. unless you’re a "MONK" character which is in resistance.. (well, you are in resistance but hopefully not the neurotic kind )

Why are you so angry about this concept?

Could you not believe that every man, woman and child is your brothers and sisters here..? That we all like each other where we come from??

Even though we go around and do this to each other Like you did to me

I understand you want your twin flame.. let me be honest and say you can't find your "twin flame" in judgment or hate.. or lack.. or any of those things.. only love will bring that to you.. how much love have you demonstrated in this thread?

And you don't seem to be in the place (observation) of being able to get that "twin flame" any time soon.. so Good Luck with that!

The big problem with the "twin flame" idea is.. people stop looking at themselves.. and treat the "twin flame" ideas as a MAGIC CURE ALL fix it pill to their relationship choices and problems.. and you can't get there from LACK or the other word is "problems" you just can't.. so it's a nice concept and everyone's interested, yes? wants, it yes?

But few asking about it.. are in a place to make that happen.. and your posts seem to indicate your far, far away from that..

how can i be far, far away from that, when your earlier posts say the opposite.

I believe that each and every human is my "twin soul"
Ahh.. did you not read what angela said?

Oih..

Everyone is you.. not just everyone.. but EVERYONE!

listen i appreciate you taking the time in trying to convince me that your point of view is the way of things but it doesn't sit right with me.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by dare

how can i be far, far away from that, when your earlier posts say the opposite.

My earlier post.. was all about soul mates.. brothers and sisters if you will.. that's not the opposite.. it's just suggesting to you the idea.. that making a direct pick to find your "twin flame" is hard to do.. and perhaps delaying you from other opportunities.. until the time is right..

I mean if you want to find your "twin flame" here is a easy way to manifest it.. all right?

Just say.. I'd like to find my "twin flame" if there incarnated on this planet and interact.. and then be easy going, open in your life.. (including non-twin flame relationships) I guarantee if you do this.. you will find them.. your journey may be 1 month to 25 years (this is just a range not a guarantee on the length of time..) but if you follow your bliss/path and excitement stay focused on the idea.. you'll find your "twin flame" if there incarnated.. and you find them via energy.. even if there not incarnated.. by removing the "incarnated" part..

Originally Posted by dare

listen i appreciate you taking the time in trying to convince me that your point of view is the way of things but it doesn't sit right with me.

That's okay.. your welcome to reject it

But I will ask you.. does this "not sitting quite right with you".. feel negative? limiting?

Because to me you just said something is not possible.. I'm surrounded by imbeciles and morons.. none of them are my brothers and sisters.. and why do they murder each other every day..?

I only wish to offer you the idea.. negative energy/emotion = block/belief/definition to your truth.. change the block/belief/definition and it will feel good to you.. positive, joy, love, beauty, grace, appreciation

[Angela]

Originally Posted by dare

so is there such as thing as twin souls or not as in erins blog she says there is no such thing as soul mates, so if soul mates are out, maybe twin souls are too?

Dare, Erin didn't exactly say there's no such thing as soul mates; she just said she's frustrated when someone asks about their soul mate when they're thinking of it as the one and only possible true love of their life, without whom their life won't be complete.

I think the OP two years ago was thinking that way when she was talking about Twin Souls -- like there's that ONE person, and if you don't find and mate with that person, you're up a creek. I think that's the way you're thinking of Twin Souls or Soul Mates, too, right?

Two years ago when I answered that OP, I was thinking of Twin Souls or Soul Mates as people with whom I have an important soul connection -- people from whom I have something essential to learn or enjoy, and vice-versa, and as I mentioned, that could be anyone and everyone I encounter.

As for choosing someone to mate with -- to be my partner in life -- not everyone would be as good a choice as everyone else, although I have a much bigger pool of candidates to choose from, considering that every human I encounter is a Twin Soul in the way I was describing (important soul connection), than someone who believes there's just that one person and they're screwed if they don't find her. I understand if you think that's nonsense -- I hear that all the time about all kinds of things I say! But I think a big part of why it didn't make sense to you was that we weren't speaking of the same thing when we said "Twin Soul" or "Soul Mate."

Personally, I think that the idea of a Soul Mate in that "one and only true love match" sense is a bunch of happy crappy crappola, to put it delicately.

On the other hand, I did meet and date a guy 23 years ago with whom a relationship didn't work out (timing, mismatched life goals, limiting beliefs and lack of internal resources), but I have always since thought of him as the most impactful romance of my life -- the "love of my life." (Which probably wasn't so good for my ensuing relationships! )

And a few months ago, after giving myself permission to want, and to say I want, a Mate -- someone who would choose me fully and whom I would fully choose -- that same guy suddenly (within a couple of days) showed up, having found me on facebook and telling me that all these years he had been thinking of me as the love of his life. We're together now in the best sense of the word -- we didn't have the resources back then, but we do now.

So, I can understand how someone would wish for that almost magical kind of love. It's wonderful. I think how we find our soulmates is: we practice noticing what we want, and we give ourselves permission to boldly ask for and generate what we want, and we open ourselves up to ways that it might show up that may surprise us. And then we're grateful for what shows up, in all its myriad ways, even before the magical love, etc. shows up.

And in the meanwhile, we practice developing our inner resources so that we'll be able to handle it effectively when LOL-man or LOL-woman shows up, ready to walk into your warm, welcoming arms.

Do you think that's nonsense?