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Old 05-16-2008, 12:41 AM
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I have read parts of books in last days,this made me confused and started to feel like i forgot what i was thinking that i knew.

Is the world in my mind or consciousness or?Am i in my mind or consciousness or outside of them?

Is mind a creation of inexpressible awareness?

I have read in a book called "Living Deliberately" that consciousness has less solid material universe, then where is the solid material universe?Is it outside of consciousness?
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Is the world in my mind or consciousness or?Am i in my mind or consciousness or outside of them?


I'd say the world is in your mind.

Is mind a creation of inexpressible awareness?
Mind comes from consciousness. Is that what you mean by inexpressible awareness?


I have read in a book called "Living Deliberately" that consciousness has less solid material universe, then where is the solid material universe?Is it outside of consciousness?


"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Einstein
I mention this quote because there is no solid universe. Physicality is mostly empty space. We imagine it is solid.

Think of realities or dimensions as radio stations. There are a lot of radio stations broadcasting their signals in the same space. We can tune into any station we want, or if we have multiple radios, a variety of stations at the same time. The stations we normally tune into are the physical, mental, and emotional stations. They all operate on different frequencies and occupy the same space.
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Thanks for your answer Dharma.
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just wanted to say that was a good answer to those questions Dharma,

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The highest view is that both the universe, the body, and the mind, which are not separate from each other, each exist within awareness, and that the primary identity of each human being is awareness itself.

I learned this the hard way, my stupid ego can get pretty large, but you can take my word that I've experienced this as the Truth.
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Thanks for your answers,and special thanks to Steve Pavlina.

But what you mean by "what world"?Do you mean it is an illusion?
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whether it is in your head, consciousness, mind or where ever, if you experience it, it is real and not an illusion, (not real)

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I think everyone's answer to that question would be different, as everyone's realities are different just as everyone's state of mind is different. A person can even change their realities and state of mind at any given time if they wanted to (ex. with drugs/alcohol or therapy), so ultimately no one's point of view can never ever match the same as someone elses.
My reality is my own, and I am in my own world and it's exactly how I see it should be which is my illusion.
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Is the world in my mind or consciousness or?Am i in my mind or consciousness or outside of them?


I'd say the world is in your mind.

Is mind a creation of inexpressible awareness?
Mind comes from consciousness. Is that what you mean by inexpressible awareness?


I have read in a book called "Living Deliberately" that consciousness has less solid material universe, then where is the solid material universe?Is it outside of consciousness?


"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Einstein
I mention this quote because there is no solid universe. Physicality is mostly empty space. We imagine it is solid.

Think of realities or dimensions as radio stations. There are a lot of radio stations broadcasting their signals in the same space. We can tune into any station we want, or if we have multiple radios, a variety of stations at the same time. The stations we normally tune into are the physical, mental, and emotional stations. They all operate on different frequencies and occupy the same space.
I think Einstein was saying all solids are actually made up of mostly space. Our bodies are mostly space. Solids are not actually solid... they're made of particles which are made of smaller particals etc. until finally, everything is actually made up of waves.
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The highest view is that both the universe, the body, and the mind, which are not separate from each other, each exist within awareness, and that the primary identity of each human being is awareness itself.

I learned this the hard way, my stupid ego can get pretty large, but you can take my word that I've experienced this as the Truth.
I agree with you, Microcosm. Awareness is all that is. It is the pulse-beat of existence.

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whether it is in your head, consciousness, mind or where ever, if you experience it, it is real and not an illusion, (not real)
I also agree with this in a way. If all is illusion, then illusion is real. However, in the proper context illusion is simply an inaccurate perception of something we observe which I feel is often the case with matters of metaphysical inquiry.

I also agree with Dharma, that "realities" or "experiences" are like radio stations which can be tuned into. You simply have to use your consciousness like a tuning fork and come into vibrational sympathy with the experience you desire to manifest.

From my perspective, everything is composed of thought, which I personally define as the shape of consciousness at any given relative frame (or time). The realm of pure consciousness is intangible in nature and less objectified/constricted/dense than the tangible or specific world which we find ourselves a party to. The tangible world is a cross section through the intangible realm, almost like a crystallization of energy. "Frozen energy". The quantifiable world is contained within the UN-quantifiable world.

The relative world is contained within the absolute.

All art objects (actually all objects in general), like sculptures, paintings, and even architectural structures, are cross sections through the intangible continuum of thought. Everything is a thought form. Some would define the intangible world as the "spiritual world" and the tangible realm as the "physical world". They are two sides of the same coin.

The tangible world is the result of intangible consciousness constricting its self to specific form. This results in a temporary state of diminished free will, which results from awareness being lost in the constriction. Its energy becomes "less", or you could say its vibrations became slower and more dense.

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I think Einstein was saying all solids are actually made up of mostly space. Our bodies are mostly space. Solids are not actually solid... they're made of particles which are made of smaller particals etc. until finally, everything is actually made up of waves.
Waves are the natural state of the intangible. Rather than being limited to specific "form" it exists as a probability cloud. You can't say its in any particular place, only where it is "likely" to be found. It gains particle form when it constricts itself and loses some free will. But, at its core, it will always be consciousness, no matter how constricted it becomes. So it will always have the potential to increase its consciousness. The more "awake" it becomes the more of its "wave nature" will be exhibited.

You see, even matter is having awareness lessons...
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Talking camouflage...

instead of 'illusion' i like the 'camouflage'. To say something is an illusion implies it is not real but to say that our experience is camouflaged, to me this word implies that something is real and that there is more to the expeirence, image than meets the physical senses,

just personal preference but words are important. I have worked 1-1 with over a thousand clients in this area and never have I found the term 'illusion' to be particualrly useful term in understanding the nature of reality, consciousness or perception, it is simly to ambiguous and loaded a term that does not lead to increased conscious awareness (in my experience).

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I personally believe the world isn't IN your mind, the world is your mind and its all part of one eternal driving force, if that makes any sense. It's just one thing constantly interacting with itself.
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The highest view is that both the universe, the body, and the mind, which are not separate from each other, each exist within awareness, and that the primary identity of each human being is awareness itself.

I learned this the hard way, my stupid ego can get pretty large, but you can take my word that I've experienced this as the Truth.

Are my thoughts,awareness's thoughts?
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