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View Poll Results: is polarity a useful idea?
yes - I see the idea as useful. 9 42.86%
no - I don't see it as useful. 7 33.33%
neither - I may not understand it, so I don't know if it's useful but this may mean it's flawed. 5 23.81%
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Old 04-30-2008, 03:46 PM
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just curious what a poll would be.

it seems there are some in the forum that get it and see it as useful.

others, like me, don't see it as useful (which might mean we don't get it, but let's say that's the same - if there are flaws to the ideas it will be both not useful and not understandable)

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I understand it and found it useful at one point, but now I think it's more helpful to think of how I can use each polarity at different times. The way I see it both light and dark are part of me and they can both be put to good use (meaning I don't hurt anybody and I don't sacrifice myself) if I'm willing.

The idea of polarity may not need to be done away with entirely, but I do think that it's generally presented in a rather simplistic manner that doesn't take the subtleties of human personality into account. I find something useful when every tenet flows together and fits me to a tee as opposed to a label that lists some qualities I have, some I don't, and I have to shoehorn myself into it to get anything out of it. (Which I don't in the long run since sacrificing part of my core self never bodes well for me.) To grow, by my definition, means to accept, utilize and expand every part of myself. I can't be effective unless I do.
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just curious what a poll would be.

it seems there are some in the forum that get it and see it as useful.

others, like me, don't see it as useful (which might mean we don't get it, but let's say that's the same - if there are flaws to the ideas it will be both not useful and not understandable)
hmm I understand the idea, but I'm not exactly sure on how it's used on a day to day basis. I seem to go between both on a day to day basis. I guess it depends on the situation and what's going on for me to polarize one way or another. I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't really have an opinion lol.
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To me lightworker/darkworker just seems like more New Age mambo jambo semantics and a grossly simplified understanding of human nature. Further, it just sounds silly, doesn't it?

I mean, "darkworker syndrome" sounds like something out of a cheap horror movie.
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It seems to me that if somebody is going to polarize, they should be able to meet all their needs based on the prescriptions of their polarity. Yet there is "Lightworker Syndrome" and "Darkworker Syndrome" for those that are just too darn polarized to function. They're just too perfect to live effectively. Since I am a big fan of Ayn Rand, I will end with a quote from Howard Roark in "The Fountainhead":

"Altruism - the sacrifice of self to others. This tied man irrevocably to other men and left him nothing but a choice of pain: his own pain borne for the sake of others or pain inflicted upon others for the sake of self. When it was added that man must find joy in self-immolation, the trap was closed. Man was forced to accept masochism as his ideal, under the threat that sadism was his only alternative. This was the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on mankind."
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Yet there is "Lightworker Syndrome" and "Darkworker Syndrome" for those that are just too darn polarized to function. They're just too perfect to live effectively.
I thought that's what happens when they are too dumb to notice what is needed in the longer term. They sprint at the start and can't finish the race.

Life is a game. Choose your character and let's play.
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You're on.
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Swwweeeet, Pikachu, I choose YOU!

Now, I know what you're thinking: "The guy's gone nuts- he can only be a pokemon trainer on his game boy from when he was ickle." But I'll soon sort that out -- law of attraction don't fail me now! !

Actually, I was talking about life as a narrative or drama with one of my philosophy professors today and as a joke I brought up the analogy of how Nietzsche's "Ubermensch" could be equivalent to the Sith from Star Wars... but he thinks Han Solo was the real Ubermensch in the galaxy, and the Empire went a bit over the top with the whole power thing, so hey, a thought to consider.
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Is polarity a useful idea?

For me, the answer is yes.

But useful for what? Now that is the REAL question.

For the most part, the concept of "polarity" was originally brought forth by an entity calling itself "Ra" in a series of trance channellings accomplished by one Carla Rueckert. This is not to say that is where the concept started, just where it was heralded as a concept worth further study. The philosophical dilemma, itself, has been around for pretty much forever.

If anyone is not familiar with these channellings, I strongly encourage you to seek them out and read them -- you can find them online for free. They are extremely dense with fascinating metaphysical information. Not fluffy and substanceless like most channellings i seem to come across these days. But then, according to Ra, many channellings become corrupted do to the very issue we are discussing: polarization.

Ra explains that it is a "social memory complex" or "unified thought form" that exists at "sixth density" and is of a service to others orientation.

Ra discusses a great many interesting things, but this collective mind also brought up the concept of polarization.

According to Ra, in our octave of experience, there are seven densities. Now, what is a density? Densities represent how vibrationally close your awareness is to the one. For example, 7th density, is timeless union with the one. On the opposite end of the spectrum is 1st density, which is the density of basic consciousness, or basic matter, like earth, water, air, and fire. Or if you like: solid, liquid, gas, and plasma. And yes, the densities are correlated with the chakras of eastern and modern new age literature.

Second density is the the consciousness of striving towards purposeful directed growth -- the stuff of animals, and higher plant life (again according to Ra).

Third density, where we exist currently, is the density of self awareness and is also referred to as the "density of choice". This is where polarization comes in.

According to Ra, at this point, consciousness can evolve no further without polarization. Similar to how no work with electricity can be performed without negative or positive poles, no work in consciousness can be performed without energetic polarization. Now, what does this mean?

From a third density stand point, not much. Until you decide you want to strive for the next level of experience which is fourth density, the density of compassion or love. Much as the requirement for third density consciousness is self awareness, the requirement for assuming a core vibration of fourth density consciousness is dependent on the amount of love you were able to generate. Either love of self (negative polarity) or love of others (positive polarity).

According to Ra, to become eligible for fourth density harvest you must either be 51% service to others, or 95% service to self, both being EQUALLY difficult to attain (a point many people miss when reading the transcripts).

Now, after third density, the choice has been made, and levels 4 - 6 involve a further refining of that choice. At level 7, all goes back to the one, and at late 6th density, the negative polarity, having become enormously refined and infinitely wise (the positive side as well), realizes the enormous entropy in trying to maintain a "negative social memory complex" in the midst of a reality that requires so much communication and sharing of information, and switches polarity to positive in one fell swoop using its stored potential as momentum. At that point, the 6th density beings transition to oneness and foreverness in 7th density.

Now, if you choose not to polarize, does that mean you cannot IM or utilize the Law of Attraction? The answer is, no, you can still manifest without polarization. However polarization does increases the energy of your consciousness, which then makes your ability to intentionally manifest stronger. Plus, there is the added benefit of graduation to fourth density, where you become more dense with life and energy and physicality is far more malleable.

Now, does any of this mean anything to you? Is any of this true? Are you sick of rhetorical questions?

These are all questions for you to ponder. I encourage you to read the Ra channellings and decide for yourself once and for all whether there is anything to this "polarization nonsense". I believe there is, but then, I may just be deluded .

And remember, ALL is a Grand Illusion. All that exists are lessons. And the lessons are immeasurably valuable.

Read the Ra channellings either here: L/L Research Library

Or here: The Law of One (Ra Material)

Channellings from the Cassiopaeans (Laura-Knight-Jadczyk) and Pleadeans (Barbara Marciniak) also reflect many of the concepts brought up by Ra.

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Tere are seven densities. Now, what is a density? Densities represent how vibrationally close your awareness is to the one. For example, 7th density, is timeless union with the one. On the opposite end of the spectrum is 1st density, which is the density of basic consciousness, or basic matter, like earth, water, air, and fire. Or if you like: solid, liquid, gas, and plasma. And yes, the densities are correlated with the chakras of eastern and modern new age literature.
Sounds like Blavatsky to me.

Thank you for the links.
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Is polarity a useful idea?

For me, the answer is yes.

But useful for what? Now that is the REAL question.

For the most part, the concept of "polarity" was originally brought forth by an entity calling itself "Ra" in a series of trance channellings accomplished by one Carla Rueckert. This is not to say that is where the concept started, just where it was heralded as a concept worth further study. The philosophical dilemma, itself, has been around for pretty much forever.

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I might find those ideas easier to understand. thanks.

Do you know of an mp3 download of this kind of material?
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Sounds like Blavatsky to me.

Thank you for the links.
You are most welcome. And yes, there are some interesting correlations with theosophy.

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I might find those ideas easier to understand. thanks.

Do you know of an mp3 download of this kind of material?
You are welcome as well.

I'm not aware of any mp3 downloads of the Ra material. That's not to say there isn't one, but I don't know of any right off the top of my head.
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In terms of polarity, you will get out of life what you choose. If you decide this concept has significance, you can run with it, expand your perception and self-understanding. If you choose to disregard it as worthwhile, well, your insight and resulting perspective would be very different.
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