are animals darkworkers?

[wolfgang]

Why do animals chomp each other in nature?

Are animals darkworkers because of that?

Or are they lightworkers because they are following their true natuer in eating other animals?

Or does dark/light only apply to humans because we are so lost to our true nature?

[Brutha]

An animal isn't higly conscious of it's actions. Being a lightworker or darkworker is not so much about what you do, but why you do it.

[responsibility]

Perhaps animals chop up each other for the benefit of the their own species (survival of the fittest). Of course this is a random thought.

[torilink]

You forgot to give a fourth option -

4. neither because lightworker/darkworker is a mental concept.

[sheffy4]

What about a human feeding animals to another pet animal? Such as a pet snake that eats live mice or something? Does this negatively affect the human because he is bringing another animal to its death? Or is it acceptable because the pet animal would eat live animals in the wild anyway?

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by torilink

You forgot to give a fourth option -

4. neither because lightworker/darkworker is a mental concept.

Is this different than - 3. neither - light/dark only applies to humans?

I mean, there's an assumption in this poll that LW/DW is a valid concept. Just because something is a mental concept (assumption for this poll's purpose) then why would that negate it as neither for animals?

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Brutha

An animal isn't higly conscious of it's actions. Being a lightworker or darkworker is not so much about what you do, but why you do it.

Why do animals do their actions? How do we know how conscious they are? I sometimes think they are more conscious - at least in terms of being connected to the whole of life. They also have more access to hearing and sight spectrum than us and feel the earth better than us.

Animals may not sit around pondering what motivates them. If we could only be that way, what would we be? Would that make us lightworkers or darkworkers?

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by responsibility

Perhaps animals chop up each other for the benefit of the their own species (survival of the fittest). Of course this is a random thought.

not too random. that's what Darwin thought. There are other thoughts about this, that nature isn't competing at all, that it's a cooperation and giving of life to each other along the way.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by sheffy4

What about a human feeding animals to another pet animal? Such as a pet snake that eats live mice or something? Does this negatively affect the human because he is bringing another animal to its death? Or is it acceptable because the pet animal would eat live animals in the wild anyway?

maybe the mistake is to keep a pet like that. not that snakes eat mice.

then in the grand scheme, maybe it's the way it is and the mice know that this is happening to them whether a human does it or not . they signed up for that lot.

but then, if you watch nature shows they don't interferer with the natural order. like if there's a sick meerkat in the group they don't go in a save the animal. so having a pet sounds like interfering in a way, ha? oh boy...

[Rose of Cairo]

Originally Posted by sheffy4

What about a human feeding animals to another pet animal? Such as a pet snake that eats live mice or something? Does this negatively affect the human because he is bringing another animal to its death? Or is it acceptable because the pet animal would eat live animals in the wild anyway?

You know, that's a question I'm asking myself a lot too! I haven't found an answer to that day.

When I feed the cat with her normal cat food, some cows or chicken die because of that. I don't agree with that, especially since pet food often is made with leftovers of the meat industry. I don't want to support factory farms! On the other hand, most of these cows and chickens die anyway, they primarily get killed for the humans, not for the cats. But that's not an excuse.

If I consider that since in the wild the cat would eat mice and birds anyway, I could give her some live mice. It would be healthier than industrial cat food too. I seriously considered doing it, but then I just wasn't able to do such a thing. I wouldn't be able to buy a mouse and give it to the cat. And I don't think the cat would be able to kill the mouse properly, since she never lived in the wild and had no mum to teach her how to chase.

I could also feed her vegan, but I have serious doubts about whether this is really healthy. She's a carnivore and needs meat. Or not? On the other hand, the highly processed, cooked food she gets now for sure isn't healthy either. But experimenting on a carnivore with a vegan diet, hmmm...

As for generally having a pet, that's a tricky question too. I find it deeply immoral to sell or buy animals. I also find it deeply immoral to keep a pet just for one's own pleasure, especially in a cage. On the other hand, this cat is a rescue cat. She landed at the animal shelter and spent her days in a cage in great psychological pain. When I was volunteering there, I couldn't stand the sight of all these beings suffering in their cages. Taking her home was the only way I could think of to help her.

I still don't know what to do about that. Difficult question.

[Mags]

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

I could also feed her vegan, but I have serious doubts about whether this is really healthy. She's a carnivore and needs meat. Or not? On the other hand, the highly processed, cooked food she gets now for sure isn't healthy either. But experimenting on a carnivore with a vegan diet, hmmm...

Hiya Rose

Apparently, dogs can live healthily on a vegetarian diet (not sure about vegan, but I think it is ok). Cats, on the other hand need taurine, which at the moment is only available via meat products. I think some companies are working on making it available via vegetarian pet food, but I haven't looked into this for a little while so I'm not sure what progress is.

I'd love for my cat to be vegetarian - she already loves things like Quorn (not sure if you get that where you are?), though I give it to her in very small quantities.

[awakentransform]

Originally Posted by Brutha

An animal isn't higly conscious of it's actions. Being a lightworker or darkworker is not so much about what you do, but why you do it.

Well put Brutha. It boils down to intentions. An animal does not have the consciousness to make a choice. It simply follows its own survival instincts.

Human beings have a greater awareness and therefore greater responsibility. It's sort of like how we hold young children and adults to a different level of responsibility even given the same action, such as say, throwing a temper tantrum. It's unacceptable in the adult because they should have more awareness of the impact of their action.

[Liara Covert]

Not all animals 'chop each other up.' Some are herbivores and vegetarians.