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Old 04-11-2008, 04:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I really like the signature of krisking911 and started a thread based on that signature as the title.
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And then asking everyone, how do you go about knowing if your spirit is getting involved or not?

I have been starting to think it is always involved even when I'm off being unconscious about everything. That even in that state there is a divine plan running. That being unconscious of Being is part of what spirit wants to do for a while as well as awakening. Or rather - how would spirit know to awaken if it wasn't asleep?


(ps. krisking911: you have typo "involed" is missing a "v")
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Old 04-11-2008, 08:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have also wondered about how the divine plan fits into my life and where my life leads. I have not consciously sought awakening, but have always seemed to find myself on the path. Why? I don't know, but it always seems to lead there. When I read this forum, I often ask myself, why am I here. Of course, I'm interested, but it is not a goal. My goal has been to find inner peace. I love Tolle and his teachings, but still my goal is not to truly reach enlightenment.

I am also at a crossroads in my career and this question seems relevant. Before getting into IT, I was in the alternative therapy industry. After a tough life situation, I decided I did not have the right energy to continue and suddenly found myself in IT. I love IT. A wise friend told me, I studied alternative therapy to get through the life situation I mentioned.

I took a temporary break to explore another passion and now that I'm back in the job search, I am finding it tough to get a job. Recently, I met someone and he asked me to come work for him in the alternative therapy industry. Go figure. It was a chance meeting and a random conversation. Somewhere, in the back of my mind, I ask, which path should I take. Perhaps, my spirit is not into me working in IT.

Sure, I believe the ego creates suffering, but I also feel there is a divine meaning/plan to some of our suffering or experiences. There are many lessons to experience from being unconscious. Intuition has reached my ego states and this could be spirit guiding me.

Re. knowing if your spirit in onboard... perhaps, the difficulty of achieving goals or intentions is an indication of not having Spirit's buy-in??? If something it is easy, then I would say, spirit is on board. Having said that perhaps spirit is also on board with experiencing a difficult relationship or whatever it is in life that is a struggle. It seems it is not part of the plan for us to know.
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Old 04-11-2008, 09:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hello All,
A special shout-out and thanx to WolfGang....Thanks for the compliment. And the tip of the mispelling.

(Wow, you actually made a thread about it---gee, thats amazing)

How I came up with that tag, was my interactions with the "real" world. I have just moved here to L.A. about 3 mos ago from Illinois (Springfield)...and was pursuing my dream as an actor. As I was going on auditions and commercials ect..I noticed how beautiful L.A. and Hollywood was. And how beautiful the women were (being that I am single, that was very enticing lol)

---I immedietly started to notice I was supposed to come to L.A. to help relieve most of these ppl from the "airy-fairy" belief that life is about money, cars, getting actors' autographs, following brittney spears's life, and worrying about getting reconstructive surgery to please everyone---Try to to my part in waking them up so to speak

Then, as I started to see how Hollywood, Movie Stars, T.V., and all this glitz and glamour was just "fake", I moved towards wanting to be a spiritual reminder. I had already been preparing for this journey b4 I even left Illinois...but the ego said "Move to L.A. to be an famous actor"----But that wasnt what my soul wanted. I started to feel very uncomfortable chasing money and fame shortly after moving here...

The icing on the cake to my tag line was this: One day while at work, I saw what had to be the most beautiful women I had ever seen. (I work for a cell phone co.) And all my friends kept saying..."Man, Kris you should holla at her. You should try to get her number"---So as I was flirting with her back n forth---and she started talking about what drives and motivates her---my soul literally said. "Kris, I know shes beautiful, great smile, great body ect...--but ask yourself, what does she believe?---Really, what type of person is she? Where is her heart lie? Does she value ego over spirit? Is getting her hair and nails more important than her spiritual growth? Does she think shes seperate from everyone else in the world? ----Beauty only last for so long, then what else can she bring to the table? ----All these ?'s were poppin' up outta nowhere---Then I realized that the journey I'm on,-- I will need a woman that at least shares my same belief in "Oneness"---"Love"----"No Fear"----"I dont need anyone's approval"----type of attitude.

So the tag line jumped in my head from a mutual friend of mine that I called and told about how beautiful this girl was--and the thoughts I had on why I didnt pursue it all the way. And thats when he said to me "Kris, that was your huntch saying "If your spirit don't get involved, You should'nt"

So now, because of that tag line, it has helped me make better judgements on choosing from "SPIRIT"---rather than "EGO" Looks are no longer my prime attribute in women. Energy is!---I try my very best to go off of my inner energy rather than flesh. Its hard sometimes, bcus Ive been trained a certain way for 15-20 yrs.....So Im taking my steps at undoing the old Ego driven decisions. Because if its one thing I now know from relationships (and anything that means "oneness") is that:

"STRIFE IS CREATED WHEN TWO BELIEF SYSTEMS COLLIDE"

------I dont need the strife!--Lol

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Old 04-15-2008, 01:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi,

thought my own exploration is accept that I am a 'spirit, in flesh, one phsical aspect of my broader identity so I also accept that my 'spirit, is always involved in everything,

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I have been starting to think it is always involved even when I'm off being unconscious about everything. That even in that state there is a divine plan running. That being unconscious of Being is part of what spirit wants to do for a while as well as awakening. Or rather - how would spirit know to awaken if it wasn't asleep?
Wow, yeah I just became aware of this yesterday. Whether we are conscious or not doesn't matter!
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Ok, I know a little bit about this because I am the one that gave that qoute to Kris911.

I know that everyone will have their own version of what "If my spirit doesn't get involved-- I don't" means but what I meant by it was if there is an interaction that is taking place and my insides just won't leave me alone about it then I don't hesitate to get involved or maybe I do because I am a little bit scared but I know that I am supposed to be there!!! I agree that your spirit is probably always involved in your everyday life bringing you to places where you will receive growth so in that sense your spirit is always involved. But there are times when you want to indulge in something that is not taking you in a direction that is clearly beneficial, although you can use any experience for growth, you could have easily sidesteped this incident if you would have just listened to your past experiences. So I guess the real skill is listening to your spirit! Being able to listen in the language of Spirit and know when to move forward and when to retreat from a situation.
Kris and I were specifically talking about relationships and how to know when you meet someone who will be a benefit in your life especially considering the path that most lightworkers are on. The average person might be drawn to your light but should you make it a point to involve yourself with every person that seeks out your time? I try my best to let my spirit be my guide but I am still learning to listen in the language of Spirit!
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