Church of Oprah Exposed: Your thoughts?

[LawofAttractionHandbook]

What do you think about the Church of Oprah exposed video.

Personally, I agree with the things Oprah says about God being a part of you, and not something outside yourself. I also agree with her when she says there isn't only one path to God(if that's what you call it) and that there are many paths, and we have choices.

I was born into the Christian religion, however I don't practice it anymore. I've decided to take my own path of meditation/self actualization.

What are your thoughts/feelings about this matter?

[Jamie]

Originally Posted by LawofAttractionHandbook

What do you think about the Church of Oprah exposed video.

Personally, I agree with the things Oprah says about God being a part of you, and not something outside yourself. I also agree with her when she says there isn't only one path to God(if that's what you call it) and that there are many paths, and we have choices.

I was born into the Christian religion, however I don't practice it anymore. I've decided to take my own path of meditation/self actualization.

What are your thoughts/feelings about this matter?

Well done Opera, I'm guessing she'll come up against a lot of flack for this, but I think she's cool. Eckhart Tolle too.

[Ree]

Originally Posted by LawofAttractionHandbook

What do you think about the Church of Oprah exposed video.

Personally, I agree with the things Oprah says about God being a part of you, and not something outside yourself. I also agree with her when she says there isn't only one path to God(if that's what you call it) and that there are many paths, and we have choices.

I was born into the Christian religion, however I don't practice it anymore. I've decided to take my own path of meditation/self actualization.

What are your thoughts/feelings about this matter?

I agree as well! The first time ever that I watched Oprah she had Gary Zukav as her guest. I had already begun my spiritual seeking but he helped me on my way a lot! I think it's wonderful that someone with the influence and visibility that Oprah has is doing something to raise the collective consciousness!

[Jamie]

I just wonder how long it will be before they shut her down. Clearly the message shes' sending out, is against the established organised religion of the land, they won't be happy losing their power base, and will do all they can to dis-credit her.

Unfortunately (for them), their attepts to discredit her, as shown in the video above, actually show her in a good light, and her accuses are left looking like brain washed idiots.

[krisking911]

Yes, Ive seen the video myself. And that really opened my eyes to let me know that "WE" as the Consciously aware, need to band together in unity and help bring the light to everyone. Eckhart Tolle is a light bringer....and Oprah was aware of it and felt what he was saying...(I do as well).

But as you seen in the video, there are alot of ppl "lost". And when i say lost, i mean are not fully aware or awakened that God or (universe, prime force, allah, ect) is not a belief. It is aninner feeling. You know when something doesnt resonate with your soul. Its just ppl are willing to go with the majority, even though it clearly doesnt make sense. It is so important for all of us (the minority)that have some sort of clarity of the truth, to get this out to the majority. That video just says to me that it'll be a "fight" so to speak. Bcus their not giving in at all. But niether am I...!

[Jamie]

Originally Posted by krisking911

That video just says to me that it'll be a "fight" so to speak. Bcus their not giving in at all. But niether am I...!

There's no need to give in, or fight; the consciousness that's in you, that's in us all, is evolving and changing, and things will change, in time.

I see where you're coming from. Just that the video (and others like it) is made by fanatics, and probably does not describe the typical Christian view on what's been said. I can see turbulent times ahead though, as humanity changes from myth to myth.

[Angela]

I kind of figured during the first webcast pre-show when Oprah was talking about how she had taken her Christianity "out of the box" that there would be umbrage.

I thought it was interesting that the first point made in this video was that Oprah, earlier in her career, had said that she disagreed that Christianity was the "one true way" and everyone who believed differently was WRONG. She said she felt that there is room for all kinds of belief and diversity. The video's point of view is that she is WRONG to even say that because of course there is only ONE TRUE WAY.

[LawofAttractionHandbook]

Originally Posted by Angela

The video's point of view is that she is WRONG to even say that because of course there is only ONE TRUE WAY.

There are infinite possibilities in this universe. I can't fathom the possibility that there's only ONE way to reach God.

It really shows the narrow-mindedness of their thinking. Someday, I hope they understand that we're all one consciousness experiencing ourself through the bodies of millions of humans.

[krisking911]

Originally Posted by Jamie

There's no need to give in, or fight; the consciousness that's in you, that's in us all, is evolving and changing, and things will change, in time.

I see where you're coming from. Just that the video (and others like it) is made by fanatics, and probably does not describe the typical Christian view on what's been said. I can see turbulent times ahead though, as humanity changes from myth to myth.

Thanks for your imput. I admit, those words of "fight" was not what I was intending. I like your word of "Turbulence". This better describes what I meant to say. I totally agree that no one will be lost in a sense. It will be a turbulent transition though as you said. But eventually, everyone will "Get It"...because we cannot be lost 4ever. Its not possible. Because as long as one of them(us) knows the truth of it (which is our spirit, or soul)...we will not be unconscious 4ever.

Thanks Jamie for the use of a better word.

One Love

[Jamie]

I think it's probably a very natural trasition for us, so there's not so much need to force it, or fight with other people over their archaic belief systems which they're entrenched it, they will come round, in time, and perhaps less force, will be more effective?

Another thing occurs to me, is that people have different belief systems, and they're like cultural contexts (or descriptions) for their spiritual growth. There may well be a lot of mileage and value in each belief system for that person, and I think it's good to respect that, and that it's 'horses for courses' (maybe that's a UK phrase?), each to their own, what works well for one, may not work so well for another. I don't need or want people to believe the same as me, it's not that I'm hiding anything, it's just that I want other people to use what works and is helpful for them.

Problem comes of course, with people feel insecure in their belief set, and feel that other people not sharing their belief, somehow threatens them; I suspect that may be a motivation behind these kind of videos (from the people who made them).

Jamie.

[Rhythman]

I am certainly biased, but that was a really bad video in terms of against Oprah and for Christianity. I find the idea that an idea or belief can save you puzzling.

[Themis]

I applaud Oprah in her effort to get the word out. There was just a story in the media that said she was losing viewers because of the addition of new age spirituality into her shows.

Christianity is big business, and they will not go quietly into the night. Although I do not watch Fox News (noise), I would imagine there would be campaign started there to discredit her.

[jawillie]

I almost didn't read Tolle BECAUSE Oprah was endorsing it. But, I have been "awakening" all my life, really, so of course I found myself getting everything Tolle said in his book. I also found out that I have a bond with Oprah... I love and relate to trees and so does she. Who knew?? We really ARE all one.

I saw that video and many others like it.

Angry Christians do not save the world. I think there is proof all around us, all around the world, what ANGER does.

I feel we need to make sure we are not fighting anger with anger. Anger does not help. I just see them on a different path than me. Not right or wrong.. just... their own path. I do wish the Angry Christians would try a different route, but maybe eventually they will get it. Thing is, they can say all they want about Oprah and Tolle and anything else they pin with "new age" on it. I know what I know. I experience life how I experience it. I do wish they could feel the love I have in my heart, but perhaps in time.....

[Maguru]

Originally Posted by Jamie

I just wonder how long it will be before they shut her down. Clearly the message shes' sending out, is against the established organised religion of the land, they won't be happy losing their power base, and will do all they can to dis-credit her.

Unfortunately (for them), their attepts to discredit her, as shown in the video above, actually show her in a good light, and her accuses are left looking like brain washed idiots.

Although I agree with the concept Oprah is promoting, I also believe she can be dangerous.

Brainwashing is brainwashing no matter whether or not it is true. Both Oprah and Tolle make statements as facts, For example they speak of a life's purpose. Hmm... and who says we have a life's purpose? Is that not just a belief? Where did that belief originate?

This one belief alone is controlling the masses. Is this any different to religion? I wonder who are the 'brainwashed idiots' around here?

[supertom]

I remember how oprah said she was christian, the 2 beliefs dont go hand in hand

[jawillie]

Yes, Christians, PLEASE open your eyes, turn off the TV and PRAY. (the message at the end of the video)

That would be great, actually!!!

THAT would be helpful to the world, instead of spouting lies and anger and spreading your fear around.

Join us in peace, love and joy. (such "dangerous" topics to be talking about, I know... how could I allow myself to be so brainwashed????) (Okay, THAT was sarcastic)

[Jamie]

Originally Posted by Maguru

Although I agree with the concept Oprah is promoting, I also believe she can be dangerous.

Can be; she certainly has a lot of infunence, and what with her endoresment of Tom Cruise; is she saying that Scientology is a good thing? Though I agree with some of her insights; I'm more interested in what Mr Tolle has to say..

Originally Posted by Maguru

Brainwashing is brainwashing no matter whether or not it is true.

Indeed; I'd say brainwashing is when people defer to other people, or other external sources, and don't trust their own inner voice. The best example of this I can see, is religion. Of course, this dynamic isn't confined only to the context of religion.

Originally Posted by Maguru

Both Oprah and Tolle make statements as facts, For example they speak of a life's purpose. Hmm... and who says we have a life's purpose? Is that not just a belief? Where did that belief originate?

I don't think they're advocating anything as a belief; just that people can (if they so choose to do), intuit, feel, for themselves, what they're about, and how they fit in to the picture. It's not a belief thing; beliefs are just head games.

Originally Posted by Maguru

This one belief alone is controlling the masses. Is this any different to religion? I wonder who are the 'brainwashed idiots' around here?

Oh oh, yeah, I wonder that too..

[Angela]

You say "brainwashing" like it's a bad thing. Some people's minds are pretty filthy and could use a good scrubbing.

[yossarian]

and what with her endoresment of Tom Cruise

She didn't endorse Tom Cruise. Life is not a Sprite commercial.

They are friends. Is it allowed to be friends with someone you may have disagreements with?

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by Jamie

Can be; she certainly has a lot of infunence, and what with her endoresment of Tom Cruise; is she saying that Scientology is a good thing? Though I agree with some of her insights; I'm more interested in what Mr Tolle has to say..



Indeed; I'd say brainwashing is when people defer to other people, or other external sources, and don't trust their own inner voice. The best example of this I can see, is religion. Of course, this dynamic isn't confined only to the context of religion.



I don't think they're advocating anything as a belief; just that people can (if they so choose to do), intuit, feel, for themselves, what they're about, and how they fit in to the picture. It's not a belief thing; beliefs are just head games.



Oh oh, yeah, I wonder that too..

If she's endorsing them, that's really bad. Scientologists brainwash people. They control you and force you to go down their path. The scary thing is how they try to own you financially as well as mentally. Those "stress tests" are actually lie detectors. If you try to leave them, they try to destroy you so you come crawling back. It's awful.

[schola]

Their aren't enough black pots and black kettles in the world to compensate for the amount of irony in that video.